ITT: Who belongs on the Mount Rushmore of Comics?
I'm sure most fans can agree that Jack Kirby and John Byrne are obvious locks, but who rounds out the rest? I'd argue for Will Eisner and Osamu Tezuka.
What does /co/ think?
Byrne shouldn't be up there. I've always considered it Kirby/Eisner/Mobeius/Tezuka
>>77693354
>Byrne
He belongs in a meantal hospital if anything.
>>77693393
This one is pretty good though personally I hate Tezuka's style.
>>77693393
Franquin or Pratt should be the Euro representative if you're going to stop at 1 imo.
Moebius was a great artist but that's bout it.
>>77693354
Frank Shultz
>>77693464
>>77693471
yeah i'm /co/ biased as fuck so I can't really defend those 2.
>>77693354
Byrne is problematic
It should be Stan Lee for the sixties
Alan Moore for the 80s Watchmen
We skip the nineties because they are awful sexist shit
And then Brian Bendis for the 00
And Kate Leth for her sky rocketing career for the 2010
>>77693578
>Charles M. Schulz
fixed, sorry
>>77693651
I bet you think you're being funny.
>>77693393
This I can agree with...
>>77693354
Well you got to look at the reasoning behind the original Mt. Rushmore faces.
>George Washington as the first president
>Thomas Jefferson as one of the chief architects behind the founding documents of the US government (declaration of independence, process of constructing the constitution and bill of rights, among other contributions)
>Abraham Lincoln as the president who guided the country through its darkest hours and roughest times
>Theodore Roosevelt was seen as the president who bridged the gap into the "modern" 20th century, symbol of modernity and moving forward
So we should have
>a pivotal founding leader of the medium
>a major contributor to codifying specific conventions of genres or storytelling within the medium
>someone who oversaw turbulence or upheaval in the medium during a bad period
>someone associated with transition into a new age or era
kirby/lee/eisner/barks desu
>>77693803
Who started the widescreen art trend? I wanna say Hitch? I'm thinking Eisner, Kirby, Frank Miller, and him from your description.
>>77693354
If you go by the same standards that were used for the ACTUAL Mount Rushmore, except adjusted for comics, obviously, then the ONLY people who should even be considered are these:
Jack Kirby
Harvey Kurtzman
Alan Moore
Frank Miller
Again, this has NOTHING to do with quality or taste or "who's the most talented", just with who'd be the comics industry equivalent of the people on the actual Mount Rushmore.
>>77693803
>Siegel or Shuster
>Kirby or Simon
>Lee or Ditko
>Miller or Moore
>>77693869
Fuck, I can't believe I forgot Stan Lee. Put him in place of Kurtzman.
And again, this has jack shit to do with Lee being "better" than Kurtzman or anybody else.
>these Stan Lee mentions
Stan belongs on the Mount Rushmore of Stealing Credit with Bob Kane.
>>77693803
Lee
Kirby
Karen Berger?
Brubaker, Hickman maybe? Depends on what era you want to capture, Hell you could put one of the Image founders here for the transition to Creator owned property
>>77693876
Naw.
Kirby
Lee
Miller
Moore
Only combination that really makes any sense.
>>77693935
excellently memed
>>77693940
>Karen Berger?
almost feels like there should be a separate one for executives
>>77693803
>>77693869
If you want to go that way both "founding" and "coding" comics as an art form predate the "Golden Age" by quite a lot, which many people here use as the benchmark of the start of comics.
That would probably mean 1, 2 capeshit creators at most.
>>77694162
To be precise 1st should probably be William Hogarth and 2nd Rodolphe Töpffer.
I feel like only writer/artists should be considered
>>77693354
Kirby, Claremont, Moore, Morrison
I would say Kirby, Eisner, Mobuis, Tezuka and Sim.
>>77693354
Fuck it, I'd need five.
Kirby
Lee
Byrne
Moore
Gaiman
>>77694346
Gaiman's also well known for his written works other than comics, I'd like to deal with people who ONLY worked in comics.
>>77693354
Stan Lee.
>>77694396
*cape comics
>>77694399
Sarcasm aside, yes. He would be.
>>77694396
Why? He basically introduced comics to a whole new generation. Hell, I would probably not be reading comics if it were not for him.
>>77694418
Probably not, except if you think comics are an American-only artform which started in the 1940s. And even then that's debatable.
And that's coming from someone who likes Stan Lee.
>>77693803
>>77694162
i think if you go white someone import or a founder of the medium, one could look for some important names in the comic strips preview of the golden age, guys like Hal Foster, the works are still remember, and they were an important inspiration for artist like Dikto and Kirby
>>77694513
Speaking of other comics, what about comic strips? Winsor McCay comes to mind.
>>77694821Gallagher
>>77693354
Eisner, Crumb, Kirby, Tezuka, I think.
>>77694821
McCay is a good one. He's also really important to animation as a medium.
>>77693393
Steranko should be on there too, maybe throw him on as a fifth head
Why are people mentioning NON AMERICAN names? No Tezuka, no moebius, only american comic dudes that changed and shaped the AMERICAN COMIC BOOK INDUSTRY.
>>77695329
>Crumb
Do you see William Jennings Bryan on Mount Rushmore?
>>77693354
Stan Lee gets to be the unfinished Crazy Horse sculpture.
Can't we just carve "Loss" at the side of the mountain?
>>77693940
You're seriously crediting Stan Lee for being a founder? Seriously?
>>77695533
Because we're not talking about the American Comic Book Industry, dippy. We're talking about all comics
>>77695533
Because it was never said that this was exclusively about THE AMERICAN COMIC INDUSTRY, in fact it was heavily implied that it wasn't.
It's mount rushmoore so only Americans should be on it. I'd have Jack Kirby, Alex Raymond, Wally Wood and someone else maybe Milton Caniff
No Barks on anyone's list..WTF
My list
Eisner
Barks
Kirby
Lee
Krutzman
>>77698439
>Lee
>>77698397
Whatever floats your autism boat.
>>77693354
Geoff Johns, Brian Michael Bendis, Jonathan Hickman, Dan Slott, and Matt Fraction.
>>77694418
I'd put Jim Lee on the monument before Stan Lee. Stan is a piece of shit
Jack Kirby
Will Eisner
Alex Toth
Scott McCloud.
That's the top four for me.
>>77698548
>Scott McCloud
>>77698473
I'm not the guy you were arguing with
>>77698589
Considering you seem to share his autism, I don't see why I should care.
>>77698665
you don't need to get mad dude
>all this Stan shitposting
you do know at the very least, he came up with most of the characters names, right?
peanuts guy
garfield guy
watterson
rob liefield
>>77698703
I'm not mad, I'm just calling your lack of understanding of a metaphorical Mount Rushmore "autism".
>>77698884
Fin Fang Foom is a shitty name
>>77698884
There's only 4 spaces up there. I'm not sure he deserves one for coming up with part of some superheroes and being a great marketer. His contributions to the industry are great, his contributions ot the artform not as much.
>>77693354
Bill Watterson
Jack Kirby
Alan Moore
Will Eisner
>>77698936
It's a bit "Fee Fi Fo Fum" innit?
>>77693354
There, OP. I fixed it for you.
>>77699200
Is there any picture of Slott where he doesn't look like a big fat stupid drunk?
