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>inb4 Supesfags start whining about how Superman can't be beaten.
If anyone can rekt Supes it would be wonder woman.
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>>77679038
>implying Supes bones can be broken so easily
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post butlering
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but Injustice didn't have fatalities.
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>>77679038
super wrek
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A fucking girl can beat Superman but Goku cant?

COME ON
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>>77680656
Did he have the mufgin button
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>>77679038

What utter shit. This is like a fucking anti-comic. Grant Morrison would cry if he saw this baka desu senpai
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>>77679099
It certainly makes more sense than Batman beating Superman...
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>>77680731
Everybody ought to get a shot at beating Superman, then nobody can ever say he is boring and overpowered ever again!
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>>77679038
Why are they fighting in the first place
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>>77679038
MAGIC AIN'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT.
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Scans where?
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>>77680759
Superman probably said women are bad at driving and she was just defending her gender from the patriarchy.
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>>77680656
That's not just any girl m8, that's Wonder WOMAN!
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>>77680759
It's Injustice
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>>77680759
Batman and his losers tattled on the greek gods about Superman being a dictator so they picked a champion to fight Emperor Supes and they picked Wonder Woman so she immediately started punching him in the face

Injustice!
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>>77681345
>>77681312
>Injustice

Or another way of saying it's shit.
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at least it's canon since injustice doesn't change powersets
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>>77681867
>at least it's canon
>Capeshit
That comic where Superman eats my special 2nd grade lunch sandwich and heated it with his heat rays is canon too.
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>>77682313
But didn't you hear, Anon? Convergence made everything canon now!
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>>77680656
That girl could beat the shit out of Goku too Pre-DBS
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>>77679099
Only alternative realities. Superman is literally a new sun god who can only be defeated by other sun gods.

But it is inconvenient for DC having their star female figure created by one of the sickest perverts, and created purely to engage young teenage boys to early twenties aged men on a psychologically sexual level. A dominant female who is destined to be beaten by every alpha male and live happily in total submission to her superior master.

True story: I dated the grand daughter of the creator of WW, and she had lots of weirdo stories about her granddad.
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>>77682662
>buh buh buht teh onli reason Wonder Womyn wins is bc SHE'S A GURL!!!!!! FUCKING DEE CEE MUH SUPERMAN IS INVINCIBLE
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>>77680731
>>77682662
>>77682710
He-Man could beat all of them
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>>77679038
Remember the comic code: Good defeats evil.

Evil Superman can be beaten by anybody. Good Superman can be beaten a lot, until it really counts, at which point he will always win. But if he has to do something incredibly embarrassing, or has to break a rule to do it, he will die of embarrassment.

Even with all the grim dark and gore, at heart any tale involving Superman will follow the basic code--- evil always loses in the end, while good will always triumph (even if it has to try a few times to do so).

That is part of writing a Superman story.

A Superman that has taken over the world for the betterment of all and is being a dictator, even if beneficial to the masses, is being evil, and therefore lost his plot armor. Even a 5 year old grandson of Batman or Blue Beatle with nothing but a couple of rubber washing gloves and a bit of moxxy could beat an Evil Superman.

A Good Superman usually lets Wonder Woman win, because he doesn't want to be that big of a dick or seem unbeatable.
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>>77682889
But Wonder Woman is also evil in this story...
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>>77682766
True, He-Man is a fucking BEAST!
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>>77681345
...But she was the one not just supporting his decisions, but downright ENCOURAGING him to be a fucking dictator. What the fuck?
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>>77683929
She also punched out hades in the beginning, why even start giving a shit about what the gods say now?
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>>77683929
Batman outplayed them all
>Convince the Greek Gods that Supes need to be put down
>Supes want to slap zeus' shit
>Zeus goes all "whooooo lad, duel this out."
>Superman goes "ME! ME! I WANNA FIGHT ! PICK ME!"
>"Okay then, supes is up for Team Supes. Batman my senpai, choose a champion amongst the Olympians"
>"I pick Diana :^) "
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>>77682662
>and she had lots of weirdo stories about her granddad.

please anon share those stories!
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>>77682710
>Wonder Womyn wins is bc SHE'S A GURL
it's true though
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>>77684146
>Waaaaah Superman should win he's unstoppable
>The only reason x character wins against him is because [INSERT META REASON] so it doesn't count!
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>>77684202
don't get me wrong, i agree with you in that statment most of the times, but not in this one
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>>77679038
Hey guys, I know this isn't the right thread to ask, but I recently found 2 Comic books "Superman Comics No 44" and "Superman Comics No 38". I was just wondering if there was a way to tell how much they are worth, or get some more info on them? I know they're probably worth like 40 cents, but I'm just kinda interested
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>>77684339
There's absolutely nothing meta about Injustice. lol
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>>77679099
But why would she do that?
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>>77684354
Try comicbookrealm.com
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>>77684693
Because Wonder Woman's a bitch.
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>>77679038
ICE
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God forbid they ever have Superman win against her.
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Superman can beat Wonder Woman. I don't know why writers are so against that happening.
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>>77682662
>literally a new sun god

Nah h's just an alien who can absorb solar energy and emit it in different ways but if he uses too much he has to wait 24 hours to recharge.

I swear to god fags like you are the guys who think Superman can canonically pull several planets on a chain and sneeze to destroy a solar system.
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>>77685597
They aren't. 9 times out of 10 kicks her ass.
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Is Injustice over? Last issue I remember reading was Superman trying to get Batman to meet him somewhere for a talk but Batman knew he was full of shit and didn't go.
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>>77685606
>mfw newfags think they know shit about superman
There's this thing called different canons.
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>a c-lister like Wondy beating the man of steel
Get my coat, I'm leaving.
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>>77685619
Um not lately, where the fuck have you been? Seriously count the amount of times they've fought.
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>>77685606
>he doesn't know about golden age superman
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>>77682662
oh God yes them all pls
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>>77682889
that is incredibly boring and intellectually weak.
No wonder nobody likes superman anymore
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I get that they wanted Supes to lose, but why make him lose like such a bitch?
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>>77685711
Come on Anon, she's at least a B-lister.
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>>77685999
That's my biggest problem with it.
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>>77679038

Come the fuck on, /co/.
Look at the art, this is INJUSTICE.
After Taylor left, Injustice went from stupid good to stupid bad.
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>>77679038
>broken arm
>fatality
What?
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Someone add this to the jobbing compilation. You know, with the Martian Manhunter screaming while flying away from Black Adam. And the Spider men getting rekt.
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>>77687137
>You know, with the Martian Manhunter screaming while flying away from Black Adam

Haven't read injustice since year one. Please show me this.
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>>77686777
Tom Taylor is the new Geoff Johns. When he leaves a series, it goes to shit.
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>>77685597
They can beat each other. Fights aren't always so onesided man.
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>>77687190
I think he's talking about this shit.
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Does the first chapter of Year 5 have a release date yet?
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>>77682662
Does she work for Nintendo, too?
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>>77679038
>cries blood
>arm shattered
>internally screams "mommy, save me! I dun wanna be a superhero anymo! I wanna farm crops with you and daddy!".

Is the next panel featuring WW ripping of his junk and feeding it to him?
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>>77688070
Fuck, I wish that had happened now. That would have been the cherry on top of a shit sandwich.
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>Superman flies into high orbit
>Superman swoops down like a dinosaur-sodomising asteroid
>Diana atomises.
>Superman drinks four colas then carves his name into the side of mount olympus by urinating
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>>77680656
You know exactly why.
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>>77685999
He didn't? fucking read it.

You people whine too much. WW's in the same power bracket as Supes, and is often stated to be able to beat him due to better training.
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>>77688866
>He didn't? fucking read it.

What happened?
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>>77688805
The day Akira Toriyama blew the fuck out of Goku vs. Superman fags.
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>>77688866

>WW's in the same power bracket as Supes

Nu-uh!
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>>77688909
Based Toriyama.
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>>77688957
>>77688909
Who cares? The story in DBS is fucking shit.

>but muh power levels

Grow the fuck up, virgin.
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>>77689355
Why? Because you can't circlerjerk around how powerful Goku is anymore?
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>>77689461
I think you must be replying to the wrong comment, man.
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Is DC still publishing that Injustice garbage?

It's like a goofy silver age alt world story filtered through a shitty filter of trying too hard to be edgy and dark like Watchmen like they did in the 90s.
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why the fuck is superman bleeding from his eyes...
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Injustice: the comic for casual /v/ tards that think comics are just to argue who could kick whose ass in arguments worse than bad fanfiction
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>>77689915
clearly he must have been reading the Injustice comic book
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>>77689915
I guess that answers Batfleck's question about if he bleeds or not, then.
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>>77688866
>WW's in the same power bracket as Supes
She isn't though, she's strictly a tier below him most of the time. Especially Nu52, where he's able to tow entire planets with ease.

>and is often stated to be able to beat him due to better training
An exaggeration if I ever saw one.
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>>77688866
A Superman who's clear headed, truly not holding back, and using his powers to his best ability, should logically be able to beat Diana a clear majority of the time.
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>>77685606
>He thinks those aren't canon anymore
>Bitch can't into Multiversity

It's all canon. It's all real. Stay mad pleb.
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>>77685943
>If a character can't get beat up he isn't a good character

Tell that to Ovid.
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>>77691244
That shit really gets on my tits. When Superman and Wonder Woman fight, the writers always try to hammer home the point that they're equals. He'll some writers try to insinuate she would be more likely to win.

And yet Superman's feats have always been a lot more impressive than hers. Nu52 Superman and Doomsday were literally punching and tackling eachother from planet to planet. Wonder Woman hasn't shown that level of Cuh-razy.
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>>77691362
Yea sorry, no self respecting DC fan is considering Injustice to be canon.
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>>77691411
Speak for yourself, you uppity faggot.
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>>77691411
It's a world the Gentry got to.

They're behind the scenes causing bullshit to happen to both piss off fans and attract casual fighting game fans into the fold to piss off fans even more.

Remember. They want you to waste your life talking shit on the internet instead of doing outside and getting a life. Getting mad about Injustice simply furthers their aims.
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>>77679038
Lmao that feminism, superman will always be the strongest, that's why he's superman.
WW comes in as fourth, after Flash and MM
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>>77691442
>hypercrisis is real
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>>77683880
No, BEAST-MAN is a beast. He-Man is THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE UNIVERSE
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>>77691463
>WW comes in as fourth, after Flash and MM
Except Flash isn't a millionth as durable as WW faggot.
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>>77691525
It was always real. We're all holons in a vast and ecumenical DC oversoul.
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>>77688805
This is why Goku is a better character IMO. Despite being super powerful he's still mortal. He's not just some bullshit overpowered Jesus clone that was given all of his power at birth. Goku had to earn it and prove he was pure of heart to acquire godlike power and he's still mortal. Which isn't too bad cause if he ever dies the Namekians got his back.
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>>77691840
>defining a hero purely by their powers
Lel.
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>>77691868
>tripfag
>implying
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>>77691955
dubs confirmed
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>>77691955
You sure showed me.
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>>77691840
In what well-regarded Superman story was Superman as a character weakened because he was too powerful?

And what well regarded Superman story had him get everything he wanted without effort?

If you can't answer these two questions you are a ill-informed casual who gets their information from video games and Deathbattle.

In other words, a faggot.
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>>77691868
The assumption that i define super heroes by power alone just cause I said Goku is a better character is quite silly. I just dislike the fact that Super Man is just given everything he ever needs just cause he's Superman. Like oh he can get the unique powers of other "Super Men" from different paralel universes and literally be a god and create his own universe where he revives all the Kryptonians and bangs the shit out of his reincarnated god wife.
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>>77691988
Well he did get dubs
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>>77692183
so did the trip
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>>77679038
>Harley Quinn cheering them on
>Batman not beating the shit out of her
Is she the ultimate Mary Sue?
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>>77692268
Bats is mad about the pranks.
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>>77692025
just because he gets weakened doesn't make him not overpowered lol. Give me one good example where Superman loses and I'll fuck off.
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>>77689883
that's what makes it good though
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>>77692139
What stories are you talking about? The "creates his own universe" sounds like a side plot in All-Star. The point of Earth Q wasn't that Superman gets everything he wants without effort. But maybe you're talking about For Tomorrow. In which case Superman doesn't get what he wants in that story PERIOD.

Be honest with me anon. You just read wikipedia summaries don't you?
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>>77691393
Not to mention WW got BTFO by Doomsday in the same fight while Superman was able to defeat him. Seriously, if they want us to buy this crap, then actually show her doing something impressive. No, beating Greek God's doesn't mean much because they were never that strong. Hell, they're some of the weakest gods in DC canon.
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>>77680731
>Implying Batman Can't easily beat Superman.
Superman has more than one weakness.
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Injustice has so many great out-of-context pages
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>>77692467
Following your logic
>Apollo beats up Superman
>Wonder woman beats up Apollo and his sister
Also
>olympic gods are the weakest gods in DC canon
That's horseshit.
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>>77692460
you never heard of superman prime? well then
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>>77692395

>Just because he gets weakened doesn't make him not overpowered

I meant when does being unbeatable subtract from the themes and meaning of his character.

It might surprise you but a character can be omnipotent and still have struggles. Look at mythology.

>When does Superman ever fail?

Lex succeeds in "murdering" him in All-Star and Red Son.

He fails to stop the super-bomb in Kingdom Come.

He fails to make a sustainable better world in For Tomorrow and instead of bringing peace to the mid east teleports it to the Phantom Zone.

He fails to save his son and father in Last Son.

Do you want more examples of why you don't read comics?


>>77692527
>Has to spend countless ages in the sun powering up

>Only comes after a list of adventures including learning how to bend reality like a 5d imp

>The point was that it was the pinnacle of his efforts. The eternal happy ending

Do you read comics?
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>>77691553
Except Flash can beat her 90% of the time
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Gotta love how Supesfags can't accept Superman getting beat by wonder woman. She's one of the strongest superhero but apparently Superman can never ever be shown to be second best.
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>>77692592
i said lose not fail lol

youre trying really hard right now arent you
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>>77692629
Except you're wrong.
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>>77692476
Yeah kill yourself batfag, cancer faggot
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>>77692733
Batman is better than Superman in ever way

ever
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>>77692395
>Give me one good example where Superman loses and I'll fuck off

Fuck off back to /tv/, you retarded casual.
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>>77692663
You do realize that conflict and characterization can come from things besides having some other humanoid beat up a character, right?

Or has Shonen completely destroyed your ability to understand the mechanics of drama?

But alright, examples where Superman gets beat up by another character:

Death of Superman Doomsday

Like, every episode of the Justice League cartoon

Kryptonite Man in Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow

Mongul in For the Man who Has Everything (Superman hesitates and Mongul ends with the advantage)

Superman losing to that New Gods guardian of Supertown in Jimmy Olsen 147.

Do I need to list more you weeaboo casual?
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>>77692819
>death of superman
Coma*
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>>77692866
>Coma*

Bullshit*

Pa Kent had to fish his soul back and Nekron was later able to control him.
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>>77692912
You know. I think the best stories are the ones where Superman doesn't lose fights.

I'm just saying. Compare All-Star to Death of Superman. Only one has an Eisner.
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>>77692819
weeaboo casual?

projecting much?
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>>77692811
>>77692819
He's ran back to /a/ to circle jerk about how much deeper Son Goku is as a character because he likes food and isn't afraid of anything.
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>>77679290
Wasn't broken bones. She snapped the cartilage in the elbow joint. There are no breaking moves in martial arts that actually target bone. The goal is to fuck up the cartilage (which is much softer) in the wrists, elbows, shoulders or knees. Get your soft ass to a dojo, pleb.
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>>77685711
Magic is more interesting than bullshit science that works like magic.

Wondie A. Supes D.
Batman C.

Kirby Strange A+
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>>77685767
>confusing Silver Age with Golden Age
Golden Age Superman couldn't even fly at first.
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>>77692688
Pretty sure he's right.
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>>77679038
I hate fantasy super powers like Wonder Woman's more than "science fiction" fantasy powers like Superman's, but I really like the rippling muscles on Wonder Woman there so I'm fine with this.

JK. WTF. This isn't cool. Superman is supposed to be literal god.
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>>77693141
Isn't damage to cartilage permanent?
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>>77691463
>superman will always be the strongest, that's why he's superman

Superman is jack of all trades. Not nearly as fast as Flash, but still has superspeed. Not nearly as skilled as Wonder Woman, but when depicted later in his career, still has a bit of martial arts training under his belt (usually courtesy of Batman and Wonder Woman). And generally Batman, who's one of the best detectives and strategists in the world, is depicted as smarter than him, even though Clark won a Pulitzer Prize. No telepathy, shape shifting, or mindrape resistance, but without J'onn's weakness to fire. Less naïve and more experienced than Captain Marvel. I don't know where people get this idea that he's the strongest, beyond seeing the Donner films. Certainly not from the DCAU stuff.

Wonder Woman beating Superman makes sense, though. She's a literal demigod with a comparable amount of training, since early childhood, as Batman. Superman's a really strong alien who mostly just learned on the job, and has garbage magic resistance.
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>>77693830
He is faster than the flash when he's flying.
Stronger than WW, also knows a lot of fighting styles.
Smarter than Batman.

He is just as vulnerable to magic as anyone else.
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>>77693906
>He is faster than the flash when he's flying.
Source on this? Because every time Barry, Wally, and even Barry's descendant, XS, bring this up, they make it seem as if they are massively faster than him.

>also knows a lot of fighting style
None of which compares to being trained by the god of war, from early on. Batman used Usain Bolt to Bruce Lee as a comparison of their martial arts skill.

>smarter than Batman
Rarely ever written this way. But people love to bring up stuff from All Star Superman, and Elseworld, even as the Justice League's strategical and detective niche is almost always written as being taken up by Batman, or even by Ralph Dibny, before Superman. Batman also created Brother Eye.
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>>77689355
No one has cared about power levels for years bro. Even most DBZ fags know that they're useless.
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>>77691689
My mind is fucking blown.
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>>77693726
Can be rehabilitated... to an extent. It will never be the same.
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>>77693906
>He is faster than the flash when he's flying.
Holy shit, Supesfags are the worst.
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>>77694241
They stopped being used after Scouter's were abandoned in the Freeza saga...but these goddamn English dub fans just keep throwing meanless numbers around.
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>>77694241
Sure power levels totally don't matter to DBZ fans...

Except when they want to argue who can be who in crossover battles.
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>>77694591
>Waah waah your hero can't be stronger than mine
Pathetic.
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>>77688805
Except they explained several times that Goku lowered his guard because he's an overconfident fuck. He's already proven himself to tank stronger attacks.
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>>77696464
But Superman being faster than flash is bullshit. Why is cool to hate on batfags for thinkin, bats can beat Superman, but we can't btfo superfags that think he's better than other character that are clearly better than him in certain areas?
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>>77682662
At least DC has a star female figure who isn't just a female version of a male character or exists to be part of a team centered around male characters.
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>>77697012
I know Flash is definitely faster than Superman, but isn't this quote from Flash a whole bunch of bullshit he's making up?
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>>77696620
>Except they explained several times that Goku lowered his guard because he's an overconfident fuck. He's already proven himself to tank stronger attacks.

Not really. Goku was well defined weakness to extreme temperatures, he can be frozen and they can't survive temperatures similar to the sun.
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>>77697155
>Implying that Wonder Woman doesn't serve as the chick in the Justice League.

>Also muh company wars.
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>>77679038
I've been out of the loop for a long while, where is Injustice's plot right now? The latest issue, I mean.
Total Supes domination?
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Hex ain't got no superpowers or fancy toys
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>>77692514
Anon, there are aliens and mutants that are straight up stronger than them, they're really not that good. It's not just the fights you ignoramus, it's about the genealogy feats that these characters have accomplished. Until WW can lift a fucking planet you can't say shit.
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>>77692655
>WW
>One of the strongest superheroes

Oh god no. She's not even in the top 5 DC heroes, it's just that Wonderfags are delusional as fuck.
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>>77700297
*general feats
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I think you guys are forgetting that it always depends on the writer.

Byrne Superman could barely tank man made weaponry

Johns Superman took a Supernova to the face and it only KO'ed him for a few moments.

Morrison Superman could lift infinity

Weisenger Superman could break infinity (no, seriously)

He's not a real guy. He's as powerful as the writer wants him to be
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>>77700507
I miss Silver Age Superman. It didn't give a shit about making him "relateable" or "grounded". It was about a man with no limits and it was glorious.
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>>77700636
I would kill for a Silver Age Superman ongoing.
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>>77679038
That's barely even an X-Ray move, let alone a Fatality.
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>>77701198
That as actually a deceptively deep story in spite of its weirdness.

I guess you could say that about a lot of Silver Age Superman stories. Grant Morrison called them psycho-dramas for kids.
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>>77701219
The Fatality was on his dignity
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>>77701357
Isn't that Lois Lane?
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>>77679038
This panel is a work of art. Never before has a trainwreck been this entertaining to look at.
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>>77701198
>CUTE!
CUTE!
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>>77697283
>Saiyan shield
welp that solves that.
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>>77679038
Talk about getting super dominated.

Just like Clark likes it, I wager.
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>>77697155
you just described WW in anything involving JL/ JLU/JLAU
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>>77701357
makes me feel better about OP
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>>77700259
it looks like he's using kryptonite bullets. which is some pretty fancy toys
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>>77700259
>See you, space cowboy.
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>>77680656
WOOOO XD SISTERS ARE DOING IT FOR THEMSELVES

#allmenmustdie
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>>77697155
Squirrel Girl
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>>77707161
A meme doesn't count.
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>>77679038
Why was Injustice basically just alternating between Superman and Batman getting wrecked?
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>>77707193
Don't even get me started on that piggu disgusting Lena Dunham-esque redesign some idiot thought would be a good idea
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