>ITT: Non-/co/ characters who could easily kill Superman
>Hard mode: No /a/
>>77669357
His chronomancer powers are actually pretty weak.
If we get into video games then there's TONS of characters.
Batman
>Hello, Superman
>What's that in my hand?
>Back up
>In your hand
>It's two tickets to that thing you love
>Look again
>The tickets are nowKryptonite
I think the State Farm insurance agents from the commercials could. They're basically teleporting genies. All they need is someone to sing the jingle.
>>77669357
Maybe the question we should be asking is "who has stronger plot armor than Superman?"
>>77669357
/tg/ has loads
Raistlin Majere, Elminster, Sauron, Gandalf, The God-Emperor Of Mankind, Slaanesh, Cthulhu, Cain...
Basically, any high-level mage or Pskyer will ruin him. We don't even need to bother with Gods, really.
>>77669357
Undertaker at wrestlemania as the American badass
>>77669357
Fictional Meme chuck norris
>>77669357
>>77669725
so, can brock lesnar also beat superman?
>>77669844
GER is purely defensive
also
>Not doing hard mode
>>77669357
Me I'd just shoot him with a kryptonite bullet nigga is easy like casting cure on a skeleton one hit he dead
Like a baby Maggie with a kryptonite bullet can do it that guy a puss like can't handle a green jolly rancher without dyin he's got space rock diabetes
King troll of tgt
Loeb's Rulk
Kevin from Ben 10: teenage years.
Just take the kriptonite, make himself that shit and a few punches. He's down.
>>77669626
Batman, the Joker.
How is /a/ the hard mode?
>>77669942
I'm sure someone has the chart
also
>OPM
>>77669942
a lot of /a/ chars are fucking OP
When you get into the really high-tech sci-fi literature, there are tons.
>>77669942
Because /a/ likes raising their characters power levels until they are God mode
Goku is easy answer
Saitama from OPM is easy answer
>>77669982
you have my attention, now tell me what to read
>>77669942
anime has an overabundance of characters that can break reality by blinking or other shit like that
>>77669970
what chart?
I think /lit/ has the strongest characters in fiction and non fiction
Harry Potter.
poyo~
>>77669986
>Goku
>impliying
>>77669970
>>77669986
I have been hearing alot of thes OPM meme, but is really worth the reading?
>>77669357
>>77670037
Careful
To anyone in this thread, not everyone in potterverse can Avada Kedavra.
>>77669357
>>77670064
Since you think it's a meme, I imagine nothing above the skill level of coloring books is worth reading for you
>>77670062
Only if he absorb the kriptonite
>>77669357
And now for "hard mode"
>>77670112
...I don't know?
>>77669357
More interesting
What character can drive superman to suicide?
>>77669548
>>77670064
It impressively uses the same punchline over and over without the joke getting old. But I think the art is why most people stick around.
>>77670090
>non-/co/
>>77670018
Pictured in that post is the Shrike, from the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons. It's kind of like the Flash on steroids crossed with Colossus, and also covered in spikes. And capable of time travel.
Then there's Singularity Sky and Iron Sunrise by Charles Stross, where you get ships that are considered relatively low-tech being capable of glassing a planet.
I'm still working through a lot of other stories myself, but /tg/ can probably give you more recommendations if you ask.
>>77669986
>Goku
Jackie Chan in a ladder factory holding a baby and wanting no trouble.
>>77670179
that's /tv/
>>77670079
Potterverse is basically FUCK YOU BECAUSE MAGIC
Pretty sure HP can kill Superman by just being the chosen one or any other deus ex machina
That's why I dropped the books after the second one.
>make overwhelming plot about mug blood wizard X true blood wizards
>never explains how this supposedly changes the magic levels
>whatever, what counts now is the wand
>massive plot about wands and whatnot
>fuck, this does not really matter as long you have the relics
>quest for the relics
>whatever, what really counts is the pure heart
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/4TDWxvh.png "latest[1].png")
>>77670212
The movie, yes
The character , no.
>>77669357
That old man in the three doors down kryptonite music video
Why is that song so good
>>77670216
>That's why I dropped the books after the second one.
>never explains how this supposedly changes the magic levels
>That's why I dropped the books after the second one.
It is explained (OoP iirc).
>>77670212
Holy shit
>>77670216
So did you actually have a point or did you just want to whine about childrens' books?
>>77670262
Not everything needs to be webm you hipster. I bet you spout the Bane meme as well.
>>77669357
CIA he's not /co/ he's /tv/
>>77670216
You forgot
>Not everyone who is a Gryffindor is a good guy or a Slytherinis a bad guy
>5 book later, the good guys still Gryffindor and the bad guys Slytherin
How people find this entertaining again?
>>77670064
The storyline is decent but the artwork by Murata is amazing.
1/4
>>77670217
Just a lowlife thug who wanted his 15 minutes of fame.
The only Hotline Miami character who could possibly take down Superman is the handsome and thick-skinned Detective Manny Pardo.
>>77670216
If you dropped the books after the second one then why are you bitching about not understanding stuff?
>>77670113
What if he absorb the Superman
>>77670360
>Snape
>a bad guy
>>77670347
Lotta loyalty to a tired meme.
>>77669357
A better question is:
>Non-/co/ characters would be worthy opponent to Popeye
>>77670262
why is this sexy?
>>77670440
Snape was a dick. Guy betrays everyone purely because he wants to smash Harry's mom's puss. He was a selfish asshole and I don't understand why everyone thinks he was some gallant hero.
reduce superman to a smoldering crater and he will live on in the hearts and minds of the people(and probably come back to life in like a week)
but destroy the ideals that superman stands for and he will surely cease to exist
>>77670362
>>77670428
So he is like a cape character?
>>77670440
>my heroic sacrifice
He was one autistic antagonist, and nothing changes that
Also he died a virgin almost in his 40
>>77670327
>you are here just to whine about children stuff?
Is not that the point of going on 4chan?
>>77669852
>GER is purely defensive
Dude, he's in like one chapter and that chapter proves that he isn't purely defensive.
>>77670360
>The villain was the teacher of Defence Against the Dark Arts all along, jinkies!
>>77669538
Cayman would just make Superman more powerful. Nightman might have a shot though.
>>77670582
>projection: 35 replies
>>77670401
>YOU HAVE TO READ ALL BOOKS TO TRULY GET IT!
Says the Twilight fans.
also
>IT IS BAD AT FIRST LISTEN, BUT WHEN YOU TRY A SECOND OR THIRD TIME, IT GETS BETTER
I really hate that fallacy
>>77670753
Touche.
Carry on.
>>77670581
they keep grasping at straws just to spout their shitty meme
>>77670924
I actually have to read things to get valid opinions on them? TUT! Not for super intelligent nihilists like me!
>>77670605
he's a parody of cape characters
>>77669879
The question is, would Tendou regard Superman as a treasure of the world or would he just troll and shit talk him?
>>77670924
But that anon did neither of those things. He asked why bitch about stuff you didn't understand if you didn't at least try to read through the rest.
>>77670972
I read two books and did not liked it, I think it's a fair judgment
If it gets more mature or whatever later, does not really matter on the result of the franchise overall, since those two book are part of it, the first one being the most important
Also my critic was in how the world works.
It's magic and they kinda just do it. No stamina, no spiritual force, no limit use.
They say PALAVRUS LATINUS and it works. Although they never explain how one do invent a spell in first place, at same time they keep jumping on how the magic works. It is the wand, the prophecy, the blood, the school house, the family, the race, the prophecy all together.
That flaw is vital in a book about...well, magic.
>>77669357
>>77670046
Pretty sure that half of grils can kill Superman
Any of the three first Kamen Rider, IF they survive long enough to do a rider kick.
>>77671054
Why not both? He wouldn't ease up on Superman until he got to know him, and even then, he's competition.
How pissed would Tendou be if the Kabuto Zecter left him for Superman?
>>77671191
potatoanon, things get explained in books you didn't read.
don't be such a chucklefuck
They wouldn't kill him but would depower his ass pretty hard
>>77669357
Rand AL Thor
>can shoot a wad of balefire at Superman
>he's basically magic so even a fireball could fuck Super up
AM from "I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream".
Though he wouldn't kill him, rather keep tormenting him for eternity, torturing and playing games, altering his genetics, making him spend millenia in hunger, or with no feet, or with no eyes, or set in flames. Every time he died as a result would only to be brought back to life with technology.
>>77671191
>Also my critic was in how the world works.
>read Fellowship of the Ring.
>complain about how Middle-Earth makes no sense.
>where did all these elves come from?
>why are they better than everybody else?
>they never explain why all these human kingdoms are ruined.
>they introduced some mysterious guy with a pseudonym who was clearly supposed to be plot related, but he never did anything important.
>they never even explored what the ring can do, it's just a magic invisibility plot device, why wouldn't everybody just use it all the time?
>>77671283
Is Superman still vulnerable to magic?
Wizard with all his trick might be able to hang if he avoids him. I'm sure his Infinity Form would put up a good offense on Supes.
I stand by the highly academic theory that you CAN in fact cut Superman with a lightsaber.
>>77671482
I respectfully disagree
Plasma's never shown to have any effect on superman
>>77669357
Falcon Punch his shit to the next dimension
>>77669689
Sauron and Gandalf would be easily killed, and whi is saying it IS someone that loves lotr.
Gandalf can die like any Human, so kn punch and he is over.
Sauron always lost on physically confrontation with beings weaker than Super.
Cthullu is no /TG/.
YOU CAN'T KILL WHAT'S NOT ALIVE!
>>77671700
>>77671404
except they explain every single topic you mentioned
Even if you are not a Middle-Earth expert you get that elves are like angels, the ring is the core of all evil, human race is in decadence and Aragorn is a big deal
>>77671740
Why are they all screaming?
>>77669557
Yeah, but they can only do "Good Neighbor" stuff. So if Superman turns evil they could probably safe you from him, but they won't help you defeat a good Superman.
Can we take into account that Superman can't fight worth a shit? He pretty much just rushes people with speed or flight and throws haymakers. Which is why Batman can judo his ass all around despite having zero powers. So someone with a good amount of super strength and fighting know how can best him for most of the fight.
>>77669977
How do you post without words or pic wtf kind of sorcery is this?
>>77671717
Gandalf the Grey yes, Gandalf the White it would be easy. As for the latter, even without the ring, Sauron is an extremely powerful angel-thing.
LOTR was never meant for power level comparisons and it shows. Hell Tolkien probably hates us all for even thinking about it. But those characters exist in a weird kind of loop where they are the most powerful being in their universe. Being powers of the world and all.
>>77670842
>>77670360
Snape being the villain was actually really clever thought. By that point 99% of the people actually reading had pretty much given for a fact that he was a Red Herring, and actually a nice guy. Even the whole First movie is him being a Red Herring.
Not only that, through the books you get to think Dumbledore knows it all, and he was always with Snape.
Suddenly he actually was the bad guy. It was clever in a way.
>>77670158
>>77670605
He is literally infinite. The manga is more about other people's fight, or him playing around, because he is by definition unbeatable.
It's all a big joke of sorts, but it get to be interesting how it get to be taken seriously at times.
>>77670440
>I will help this sociopath kill a child and a childhood rival so I can sex up a girl I called the magical N word.
>I am shocked. The sociopath killed her too! What a revelation.
> Necrophile rape probably happens.
>Ignore all the murders I did. I am a good guy now.
>I will only verbally abuse generations of children and help the hero only on my deathbed.
> I am a good friend.
>>77671858
People always say his powers supersede his ability to fight despite every time he's come face to face with someone of equal strength he get's trounced. Supes can't fight and he plays too fair.
>>77671865
took me a minute
>>77672002
I second this
>>77670924
You don't seem to understand what fallacy is. An opinion is a subjective concept, like taste as of itself. I can never be fallacious to claim it can change when you actually try something from another aproach.
Furthermore, you can claim not to like something, but it is beyond ridiculous to claim to understand that something if you don't even know it fully.
>>77671482
>>77671608
Use Kryptonite as a saber crystal. Boom.
>>77671805
>the ring is the core of all evil
I am not about to say you are an imbecile for not getting how told you got, but I will at least point out you couldn't be more wrong on that, and I can't help but think you actually don't really know what the ring is, or how it was made.
The Elfs aren't angels either, Gandalf and his kin would be the closer to Angels, aside from Sauron, that we get to see on the first two books.
The point here is that you are making up what you want from what you read. You made up what you wanted with Lord of Rings and liked it, you made up what you wanted with another book and did not. It doesn't mean you get either book.
>>77669538
Green Man is better suited for this job. Not to mention the Trash Man, but that'd be overkill.
>>77672129
LUTHOR YOU MADMAN
>>77671326
The Doctor would out smart Superman and probably super science him down. But they would probably see eye to eye. Being "the last of their kind" (ignoring retcons)
>>77669357
>Non-/co/ characters who could easily kill Superman
>non-/co/Twilight Sparkle
>>77671951
But he wasnt actually the bad guy... Its been a while since i read the books but wasn't Dumbldore going to die anyways from putting on that horocrux ring? Snape killing him only served to strengthen his cover with Voldemort.
>>77670582
>>77670727
>>77670842
So none of you actually read/watched the last one where it turned out it was all according to dumbledore's keikaku?
/thread
>>77672035
>>77671858
Wonder Woman broke his arm when they fought in Injustice.
>>77672737
If that's the case then I didn't got it like that. Guess I didn't pay attention.
>>77673720
Injustice is not very canon, anyone can get superpowers out of their asses and supes is pretty damn nerfed all around.
>>77673847
Loki and Doomsday.
They're pretty canon.
>>77669357
>Sora
>Demi-fiend
>Kazuya from Devil survivor
>Alcor from Devil survivor 2
>Loki
>Lucifer
>YVHV
>Touhou
Hell there's a ton of video game characters that can beat Supes.
I love how so many people are assuming that these characters know what kryptonite is. Please, there are people on this planet that don't know what kryptonite is. Why would some person who has never heard of Superman know what it is, unless they had some sort of psychic powers to read his mind and find that out?
>>77669357
He even wrote a song about it.
>>77670216
To beat Superman in an all out fight you have to be moving at light speed at least. Superman is so fast he could kill HP 100000X before he even raises his wand
>>77674684
>Sora
Hahaha -- wait you're serious?
>>77674705
If they had psychic powers they'd already have the leg up.
Plenty of DC characters have beaten Superman without the aid of kryptonite. Characters from another universe could very well beat him.
>>77674724
Potter has access to magic that manipulates time. If he uses that he could easily have Supes in a bad spot.
>>77672608
How would she deal with Mister Mxyzplyx?
>>77674898
He uses magic so I put him in there.I don't even play Kingdom hearts so I have no idea what you are implying.
>>77674713
he's a /co/ character though
>>77675067
She'd pull an ancient tome out of her ass I mean the library that would have a spell she needed to defeat him
>>77675089
Even at it's highest level Sora's magic is garbage. And his keyblade(s) wouldn't do much to help being their are blunt objects.
>>77675191
The "get someone to say their own name backwards" spell?
>>77675219
keyblades are literally magic weapons. And Sora is juggling planets at the end of KH2
>>77675219
It's still magic though. Again I don't play KH. I'm going by what people mention how he's so 'OP' or whatever compared to Mondo dude.
Hell do you want me to put Cecil or Bartz on there instead?
>>77670216
...the variation of strength in wands isn't truly introduced until book 7. There is never a massive plot about the wands, save for the linkage between Harry and Voldemort's wands... which was said to be the rarest of exceptions.
Also, it's pretty clear to anyone with even the slightest bit of insight that blood purity is a wizarding version of racism. It doesn't change magic levels at all, and never was shown to actually matter (just like race, which is a human construct).
Harry is never once saved by his pure heart. He is simply saved by having a heart. It was just the fact that Harry was feeling emotions that it saved him in Book 5... and that is honestly the only time his "heart" let him win the day.
Seriously, none of the stuff you mentioned even happens in the first two books (and even then, barely happens). Where are you getting off talking about anything?
Unless you just watched the movies, which were just constant beam struggles and jets of light.
>>77675283
There is too many open chances for Superman to knock Sora out.
>And Sora is juggling planets at the end of KH2
It's been awhile I don't remember this.
>>77675354
>It's still magic though.
Any old magic isn't going to bring Superman to his knees it has to be fairly strong. Sora's "magic" doesn't even reach destructive levels like FF high tier magic. Even Harry Potter would have to pull out some forbid potent shit to really fuck Superman up.
>>77675480
Don't worry, it's hard to remember something that never happened.
>>77675658
No, Superman just doesn't have any extra defense against magic.
If it was a bit of magic that harmed him physically, he could resist it a bit. If Harry just hit him with a stunner though, he would be down for the count.
>>77669717
Underrated
>>77675658
>destructive levels like FF high tier magic
Same anon here. Depends on what FF. If it's materia Supes could just break it before anyone can summon anything. If it's someone like FF4 he would have a harder time. Again I don't play KH so I have no idea how 'powerful' Sora is personally. I'm going by the people who keep claiming that the guy from XenoBlade can beat Sora.
I just find it weird that was the only thing you commented in the whole list I gave and nothing else.
>>77670216
It's true that the books are mostly asspulls and nonsense but why the fuck are you complaining about not understanding something when you didn't read it in its entirety
>>77669357
how does Super handle teleporters? could one port his head off?
>>77675722
>If Harry just hit him with a stunner though, he would be down for the count.
Hell yeah he would
>>77675480
>>77675658
>>77675219
Sora fought a genie. Give him some credit.
>>77675028
I am not talking about in general. People are typing out scenarios that involve kryptonite. Why do people assume that there will be kryptonite?
>>77675658
>Harry potter
Literally any wizard who can learn two whole words and say them in succession should be able to end Supes, it's their kill-all and supes doesn't outright negate magic so it would presumably work as easily as it would on anything. The series was written pretty shitty though since the cloak he got in the first book literally keeps death from being able to find you and that wasn't brought up until the very end of the series.
>>77675852
They didn't just hold the materia in their hands they put them in weapons and what not. It would take him a bit to figure out their source of power.
>>77675871
Super hearing. They'd have to teleport really fucking fast for him not to hear them.
>>77676025
No it doesn't, it doesn't protect you from jack shit.
It just makes you completely invisible. Perfect invisibility.
That is very useful, and very rare in the magical world... but wearing the cloak didn't stop Malfoy from fucking Harry up (in the 6th book) when he was under it.
>>77676010
>If Superman fought Fred Flintstone, who would win?
>Superman, I guess, unless Barney Rubble hit him from behind with a kryptonite club.
>>77676070
>they put them in weapons and what not. It would take him a bit to figure out their source of power.
Not if Supes just destroys the weapon. If he sees Barret or Vincent's gun he's not going to just let it hit him. He would disable that first before they could use magic. Materia is fragile. Meanwhile the other magic users can just use it unless Supes physically disables their bodies. So it depends on what FF character is fighting against Supes.
Kazuya on the other hand is literally a demon god depending on what version of SMT you consider canon as well as Demi-fiend.
>>77676255
>If he sees Barret or Vincent's gun he's not going to just let it hit him.
Superman don't dodge bullets he'd assume they're regular ammo.
>>77675369
>just like race, which is a human construct
le tumbledore army defending their favorite book
>>77676340
>He'd assumed they're regular ammo
Nah man he's going to try to knock them out and ask questions later. I'm comparing the FF folks to two people that can summon gods like Loki and Odin and armies of demons/other gods.
I'm not saying they can't do it just that it depends on what FF character.
>>77669357
Any Pratchett wizard could do it too. Probably any maiar or valar from LotR, or anyone with rad levels of magic.
From /tg/, you got cunts like Cain from WoD, or any Awakened Mage with a bunch of dots in Mind and Space.
>>77676025
4th book introduces Avada Kedavra
Hermione tells Harry that it takes a strong amount of power and meaning behind the words to actually work. She even says that Harry doing the spell would barely give someone a nosebleed
>>77676159
the anon is clearly confused because of the deathly hallows story about how it was created to hide from death. Which may or may not have even been true within context of the story
>>77676416
No, but I study human genetics. Never even posted on tumblr (but then again, who cares)
There is no actual biological basis for race. While there are some phenotype patterns that might point to it, there is nothing distinct.
Rather, humans are simply excellent at seeing divisions that aren't there, or patterns that don't exist.
For example, you can tell an average human to look for distinct shapes on a screen (leading them to believe there will be a hidden pattern). Then show them completely random static. They will point out and be able to trace distinct shapes that exist no where else but in their mind.
Humans are just really good at creating divisions, but that also helps us spot patterns and find cause/effect.
>>77676719
that was Moody the teacher
>>77676639
>Any Pratchett wizard could do it too
Most Pratchett wizards are fucking morons besides The Librarian, Munstrum and Ponders. Librarian could probably do it with all the crazy books he has, Ponders could probably use Hex to science magic up some Kryptonite, and we never really got a grasp of Munstrum's actual power level but he is the strongest on the Disc so it's probably really high.
Superman is literally warm-up
Nightmare mode would have been no /v/.
The Shrike would probably kill Superman.
Rincewind might be able to kill Superman, but only if he's trying to keep him alive and safe.
>>77677624
>>there is no actual biological basis for race
>> next sentence is an example of said biological basis
there is a distinction genetically between races, these differences are minor phenotype variations. its like comparing dogs. its still a damn dog and it doesn't matter
>>77678181
>this guy doesn't know about locus heterogeneity or phenotypic heterogeneity
There is not cut and dry accepted biological definition for race. It's a social construct. For example... the two girls shown have the same parents. If you saw them on the street, there is no way you would guess they both belong to the same lineage.
>>77671858
batfag detected.
>>77678621
are you retarded or just shitposting?
>>77679581
Anon,they are actually twins
>>77669689
>Gandalf
No. Not enough power or relevant mind fuck spells. Bombadil, Sauron or his elder peers, but not Gandalf.
>>77670186
>Flash on steroids crossed with Colossus, and also covered in spikes. And capable of time travel.
Sounds like a great match for Swamp Thing.
>>77669357
game over
>>77671758
Oh jeez, who is the overdesigned fucker to the side of Zero?
No, not Mebius.
>>77670334
Yes it does, you vas deferens.
>>77679581
mra and a pedo. what a combo
>>77669852
GER is basically silver-age asspull
>>77669942
For example zenkichi(Medaka box) power is destoy the plot armor so he is the best counter for shit like batgod or silver age superman
>>77670171
>punchline
Hohoho.
>>77676639
fa/tg/uy here, other TG characters that could take superman
Exalted: (that isn't a god) I think Chejop Kejak could.
Eclipse Phase: Manu Bhattacharya might die repeatedly, but I think he could kill Superman in the end.
40K: The Emperor could take Superman due to warp fuckery. Superman is weak to magic right?
>>77680914
>is always killed by one of the teens he's stalking
ya, ok.
>>77670605
>So he is like a cape character?
It's fusionist; combines fighting manga and western cape tropes.
Tone-wise, they essentially removed all the bullshit "getting stronger" parts of a shonen series and put in comedy instead, so it goes "jokes -> jokes -> FINAL BADASS CLASH" instead of "fighting fighting fighting fighting fighting fighting... FINAL BADASS CLASH"
>>77683894
>Superman is weak to magic right?
Magic isn't super effective towards him, but he doesn't have any special defences against it.
Think of it like this: a fireball will do fuck all to Supes because his HP is through the roof, but a save-or-die spell will in most cases wreck him.
>>77670360
The fucking merlin was slytherin
>Hickok45 here. And look what gun we have today.
>That's right. I've been getting a lot of requests to review it so I requested it from Bud's Gun shop.
>we'd also like to thank Federal for supplying us with this Kryptonite tipped ammo.
>>77669357
> ITT: weebs assuming that vulnerability to magic is the same as a weakness
You make it sound like a scrub tier wizard shooting a fire ball will 1 hit k/o supes.
Magic =/= Kryptonite
The dude once was unaffected by magical transmutation that fucked up WW, Flash, GL, a New God and a fucking Angel of Heaven. AT THE SAME TIME.
Superman walked through the fucking magic spell shit and btfo'd the evil magic guy.
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>>77669801
>Ctrl+F
>Asura
>1 result
You done good m8, you done good
>>77684138
Here you go.
All these faggots assuming magic is an insta-win.
>>77674713
But I thought he whipped spiderman's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFjuPbCShBw
>>77684138
>>77684197
>>77684206
>>77684210
>>77684214
>>77684220
>>77684227
>>77684234
Okay, but on the other hand, Superman has been cut by magic playing cards before.
Generally, magic fucks him up, and he has no defense against it. Occasionally a writer will have Supes power through it by force of will, but these are exceptions, not the rule.
Primordial, Lovecraftian entity that eats universes. Also adding Freddy Krueger.
>>77684793
>Primordial, Lovecraftian entity that eats universes.
What? Like Mandrakk? I wonder who beat him?
/lit/ here
Anasurimbor Kellhus.
In addition to being a highly skilled manipulator, he possesses an unparalleled grasp of the Gnosis, an ancient form of incredibly powerful magic once wielded by the forerunners of humanity.
How strong is Superman's sanity?
Can he thwart the mother of all plans?
Can he resist horrible mutation?
Can he resist warp fuckery?
Chaos is my main bet.
>>77684849
The other Monitors? Who transferred his consciousness into the Superman Thought Robot they created? Give him that and you might as well just have Superman pray to The Turtle, instead of to the Monitors, which is what the preteens who beat It had to do.
>>77673847
>supes is pretty damn nerfed all around
Injustice Supes is, if anything, massively overpowered. Injustice Supes took out the entire Green Lantern Corp, when canonical GLC would just send Sodam Yat, with or without the ring, to easily trounce him. He took Hal's ring, even though Hal's fought against gods, and somehow managed to one shot Shazam, who canonically beat him on Earth Prime and knocked the shit out of him in Kingdom Come. They act like Wonder Woman's the only one who could take him, when Flash has speed blitzed him and mentioned in the main universe that he could knock him out with a dozen infinite mass punches before he could blink or completely strip him of his kinetic energy. Nevermind the bullshit with him somehow killing Lobo.
>>77684919
Figured I'd elaborate a little more.
Kelhus is from a group of highly secluded monks called the Dunyain who have spent the last 3000 or so years selectively breeding and training themselves to be physically and mentally perfect, operating on a philosophy that some unknown force is the source of all thought and action. In order to attain true enlightenment, they must surpass the "darkness that comes before" in order to be fully self motivated and in control of their own minds and bodies.
Kelhus, as an end result of this process, has been trained in all manners of combat as well as in the structure and anatomy of the human body, able to read faces and actions well enough to essentially read minds at a glance. This makes him deadly in both combat and conversation.
The first trilogy of books featuring him have him in exile from his monastery, searching for his father who has sent for him. In order to find his father, he embeds himself within a budding holy war where he convinces most of the army that he is a prophet, indeed he is God made flesh.
>>77669357
God
>inb4 God is /co/
God was /lit/ hundreds of years before comics.
>>77684970
>The other Monitors? Who transferred his consciousness into the Superman Thought Robot they created?
I said Superman, not thought robot. Mandrakk showed up at the end of final crisis, too.
>implying superman didn't prep a plan that involved creating an army to stop him
>giving batman a pass on prep, but not superman
it doesn't matter how he won, he still did. Sure in a one on one in an indestructible box made of plotanium, he'd lose, but why would supes ever put himself in that situation?
>>77684849
Only Superman Blue can defeat Goku
>>77685030
kek
>>77685030
I thought the whole Goku v Superman thing had been settled twice over.
Goku has limits. His entire schtick is pushing past those limits and winning, but unfortunately Superman is a being who is literally limitless. There is nothing for Goku to work towards because Superman will always surpass that next level.
>>77670363
> pardo
> not biker, evan or jake
>>77685061
>but unfortunately Superman is a being who is literally limitless
This was such a half assed handwave. Superman's been beaten before; the only issue being debated is whether Goku could do the same.
>>77685061
Yeah, it's been settled.
Still baffles me that angry gokufags entirely missed the point they were making.
They literally called Superman a badly written mary sue whose superpower is beating literally anything that's against him.
Both deathbattles, particularly the second one, was heavily pro-Goku.
>>77685061
naw, different version of Superman have different limiters, however the newest version of Goku has an ability where he can't be hurt by beings that aren't also gods.
However Superman Blue is practically designed to defeat Goku in all his forms, you can't really punch him cuz he's made of energy, he absorbs all energy and has the ability to fight deities so even Super Saiyan God Goku won't be able to match him.
>>77685061
this
all the threads and whowouldwins and vs matches almost always neglect to take into account the purpose of the characters they involve.
..and superman's purpose is to be the strongest. To always win and save us.
Feats don't matter because he is always able to surpass what he has done previously.
I'll be honest, I don't think Superman could take the Eldrazi titans or Phyrexia.
He'd make pretty much everyone else in modern Magic lore his bitch though. Planeswalkers aren't what they used to be.
>>77685120
>..and superman's purpose is to be the strongest. To always win and save us.
Superman was created as being about as strong as Spider-Man, without the ability to fly and no precognition. And since then he's bounced around in strength, from being way below Goku's tier in the DCAU, injurable with electricity and human weapons, to being a gag character in the Silver Age, to his modern incarnation, which is most comparable to Goku. And unlike Superman, who's nothing in comparison to guys like Lucifer and The Spectre, Goku, by the end of Z, really was the most powerful being in the universe, far, far stronger than even its various gods.
>>77685211
>Superman was created as being about as strong as Spider-Man
I was talking about IN UNIVERSE, as the image implies, dumb ass.
>>77685221
Superman isn't even in the DCU's top 50.
>>77669689
Isn't the god emperor of mankind kind of a broken shell nowadays?
>>77685226
>completely missing the point of my post this hard
What part of "feats don't matter" is hard for you to get inside that thick fucking skull of yours?
>>77685226
Put Superman in a canon setting where he has to fight the top 50 to save mankind and I will guarantee you he would win.
That's how Superman works.
Going out on a limb and proposing Alex Mercer/James Heller.
Only people shown to be capable of putting them down for good have been each other.
inb4 Pariah,Pariah is James Heller's daughter anyway. For some reason. Prototype 2 is weird.
>>77685256
That's every character in the DCU. If Batman had to fight Darkseid to save mankind, Batman would win through equal plot armor.
>>77685264
Superman's beaten stronger.
>>77685279
I'm aware, but assuming this is a fight to the death Blacklight can't be killed.
It even developed an immunity to the chemical compound specifically created to kill it after a while.
>>77685276
Exactly. That's the point everyone's making.
Superman's plot armor is so impenetrable that he cannot be beaten. That's why he doesn't belong in "who would win" debates.
>>77685276
batman already tried. Darkseid survived. It only weakened him. The flash then made death run darkseid through. He still didn't die.
Wonderwoman then removed him from all his hosts. He still didn't die.
It tooks Superman singing on some perfect multiversal resonance to finally kill him.
>>77685290
Superman would just stuff him in a star or something.
>>77675369
It is never suggested that any one wand is inherently "better" than another with the exception of the elder wand. The only thing that's mentioned is that using a wand that isn't yours will impair your performance, with the severity of the issues depending on whether or not you won the borrowed wand properly or not.
>>77685295
This is why I don't think we will ever see Flash in a Deathbattle.
Only character I can think of competing with him is an awakened Accelerator, but even then Speed Force would probably edge out.
>>77670440
>treats this one specific kid like shit for most of his life because he's the offspring of a guy that bullied him and got to smash this girls pussy and not him
Snape is levels of retarded NEET rage
>>77685290
> implying you need to kill someone to beat them
epic meem friendo
Monkey Magic motherfucker.
>>77685354
OP said non-/co/ you silly person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgU45g8qAwQ
>>77685370
Then get the fuck out of this board
>>77685394
Was my response not mean-spirited enough for you?
C'mon pal, we can't all be angry belligerents.
>>77685452
>we can't all be angry belligerents.
you've obviously forgot which website you're on
>>77685256
>top 50 to save mankind and I will guarantee you he would win
Didn't dozens of Supermen try this in Crisis On Infinite Earths and lose? And Hal Jordan, as Parallax, took out Superman with one punch.
