can we have worm threads here?
I think that may be more /lit/ but anyway what was your favorite power set?
>>77653718
tie between bonesaw and skitterafter her second trigger event
>>77653835
Her second trigger most likely happened inside the locker my dude. The thing at the end wasn't really a trigger. my personal favorite is probably ballistic's its pretty useful or maybe number mans
>>77653718
where do webserials belong? I assume they'd be unwelcome in /lit/.
>>77653718
jesus marvel how many new spider-women do you need?
>>77654021
I really have no idea. lit is my best guess but /tg/ could work if you talked about the setting as well
Oh hey its a Worm thread. The Protectorate best super team of all time right?
>>77653718
Accord was the coolest.
>>77654183
Never dawg fuck em
>>77654261
Accord was a pretty great chracter
was anyone else a bit disappointed that bonesaw dropped her overly cheerful mad scientist shtick after she left the nine?
Was there something in the story that any of you thought made no sense? or was just plain stupid?
>>77654261
I love the chapter where he was introduced.
>>77653638
I really disliked when the series went cosmic at the end. Prior to that when it was just cute girl digging herself deeper and deeper into a hole I was much more entertained.
Also, Bitch was moe.
>>77654123
/tg/'s a slut though, they'll accept anything.
>>77654321
nah, i liked the change it actually showed some growth and it was bad gimmicky in the first place imo
>>77653718
Skitter and Probably Panacea. Though Chevalier takes the cake in terms of cool.
>>77654322
Butcher XIII was probably the only part that I couldn't come to terms with.
>>77654323Travelers best team.
>>77654321
A little but Bonesaw had no reason to keep it up without Jack.
>>77654325
Alot of people have the same dislike for that but i think it's good ye know like it stops things from becoming stale and allows alot of character change.
>>77654371
i like the cut of your jib, chev was an awesome dude and one of the only people you could truly call a hero even towards the end. The travelers were also baller af 10/10 would read a comic or spin off book about them.
>>77654536
fuck armsmaster defiant was alright though i guess.
>>77653718
Toss up between Winter and Perdition for me
There is literally no good fanfiction for this setting, which is criminal considering how fucking amazing the setting is.I'm thinking about changing that, wish me luck.
>>77654778
apparently cenotaph is really good, i have not read it myself but you should check it out and good luck
>>77654644Why were Armsmaster and Dragon so cute together?
>>77654848
because Colin was a broken piece of shit with an Oedipus complex and dragon was a caring mother
>>77654821
It was ok, yeah. There are actually quite a few good fanfics, but they all have the problem where some people are horribly out of character, or Taylor bounces from "I want to be a superhero!" to "Let's kill all the supervillians!" almost immediately. Cenotaph had that problem, too.
Also, everyone and their fucking mother starts with the bullying and locker. It's so obnoxious it's not even funny, people forget that Wildbow actually had plot and some character developement before having it brought up, and Taylor never obsessed over it even while she was being bullied.
>>77654402
I loved it because the entire story escalated at a near perfect rate.
Simurgh best Endbringer
>>77655095
>not levi
scum
>>77653718
Skitter, so creative
Is there any chance of a sequel? I finished this like a month ago and I've never read a web series with so many good characters.
>>77653718
Panacea and Bonesaw definitely.
>>77655296
I could be wrong, but I think he said he wanted to do a sequel. If he does, it won't be for some time since he's writing Twig right now (which isn't as good as Worm, but is still pretty good).
>>77655296
yeah Wildbow said that when he finishes with his current story Twig, he had plans to come back and work on a sequel to worm. I also heard that the reason the Sleeper escaped was to act as somewhat of a sequel hook.
>>77655296
worm 2 has been planned and will start once wildbow finishes twig which is his latest web serial. wildbow also made pact after worm so you can check those out. Twig is ongoing but is apparently really good.
>>77655367
that sleeper thing seems sketch like wildbow doesn't usually do things like that. and sleeper didn't get away he was just reading and taylor didn't grab him coz he wasn't worth the trouble whatever that means
>>77655432
I remember reading that the reason taylor let him go was that his power made him almost impossible to control. Plus we know absolutely nothing about what his power(s) is/are just that he was considered just as much a threat as Nilbog and the other S-class threats. Plus since we know so little about him, it would make sense if he was the main antagonist, if not a normal antagonist.
>>77655613
Well what we know about sleeper is that he "subsumed" one of the dimensions that was opened,zeta i think?. The choice of using subsume is probably important as well. We also know that when taylor came across him all that was said that he wasn't worth the trouble of using.
>>77654974
I would say that the fanfic A Cloudy Path is pretty good. Sure its a crossover with Supreme Commander but fortunately it doesn't involve her building tanks or anything, mainly infantry level equipment based on tech from the game (mainly the Aeon faction). Plus it's one of the few worm fics that is in-depth and descriptive with lots of divergences from canon that make sense.
I really with this serial had art.
>>77655728
I can't help but think that with a name like the 'The Sleeper' and the fact that he subsumed and earth, that his power is the fact that his power makes him some kind of viral intelligence like Eve from Parasite Eve or something similar.
>>77653638
Worm is the reason we needed a /capeshit/ board. Worm doesn't technically belong anywhere, and it's absolutely worth discussing.
OFFICIAL ENDBRINGER POWER RANKINGS
Oh Shit Tier
>Simurgh
>Behemoth
Dangerous but Survivable Tier
>Leviathan
>Tohu
Shit Tier
>Bohu
>Khonsu
Also, Worm threads are now allowed right? SweetI'm pissed that Eidolon dies right when his interlude makes me give a shit about him as a character - he's still a prick like Alexandria though
>>77656080
maybe when taylor came across him he was just sitting down in a camper chair reading a book aloud.
>>77656112
This
Can we contact Hiro somehow? Make this a thing?
Because I'm not sure /co/ would be happy about this, and like anon said, Worm's unique.
It's a web serial so:
>not /co/
>not /a/
>not /m/
>>77656139
idk i always thought he was much better than Alexandria and more of a tragic character with parallels to armsmaster in the way of possibly fucking things for selfish reasons but still good as a whole whereas legend was a super cool dude and had minimal involvement in the sketchy shit and just wanted to help cunts
>>77656208
someone should definitely contact and ask about a capeshit board, hiro has already made some boards that look fine such as asp and his
my friend introduced me to this, and I hear a lot of good things about it, but I'm having a difficult time getting into it. I haven't even gotten through chapter one. Can anyone tell me how far I have to go to skip all the "boo hoo I'm unpopular and other girls are mean bitches" and get to the meat of the story?
>>77656229
Funny enough, I originally liked Eidolon solely because he was the most broken character in the series.
>Three Powers out of a roulette of nigh-unlimited choices.
>Keep Increasing in Strength
>Instantaneously Switchable.
Then it was revealed/implied that David (Eidolon)'s powers came from:The entity that crash landed on Earth (Eden). Or rather the Shard Eden received from the Third Entity - Abaddon
Then I read Interlude 27 and I could not be more interested in the early history of the character.
I personally don't know what to feel about Glaistig Uaine though.
>>77656314
most people come across this problem but the answer is to just keep reading it gets good soon like really soon and then it leaves all that shit behind
>>77656314
It shouldn't take long. However the part you hate is kinda the cornerstone of Worm.
At it's core, Worm is a story about a girl who's been through some shit, and takes measures to slowly overcome her flaws ans weaknesses.
A fair word of warning though - It ALWAYS gets worse.
Noelle - Oh God I'm crying again.
![[LOUD SWEATING].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UJbUHcI.jpg "[LOUD SWEATING].jpg")
>>77656253
How the fuck do we even reach Hiro though?
I don't wanna ask him, someone articualte and reasonable should.
Question to all who would like to answer. Who is your favorite cape in the story and why?
Mine would have to be Narwhal for two reasons. One, She's Canadian (I think). 2, I genuinely believe the reason her costume made up of her own forcefields and nothing else is because she's an exhibitionist and likes to show herself off.
>>77656208
Why not make a web serial board? There are plenty of good web serials that aren't capeshit
>>77656325
I though GU had a cool power and was a good character and eidolon was a pretty fun character to read about.
>>77656208
It's technically /lit/, but no one there is going to want to talk about it.
>>77656400
my favourite is probably weld. mix of cool power, cool dude who was a genuine hero and accepted his faults.plus him and garrote were cute af
>>77656325
" I always thought the shard that came from Abaddon was Contessa's PTV "
But its been a while since I've read Worm so I don't remember.
>>77656400
>Who is your favorite cape in the story and why?
Eidolon
The reason posted here: >>77656325
>>77656406
I'll admit, she did have a badass power.
>>77656403
>>77656456
The question still stands, how the fuck do we reach Hiro?
>>77656400
Bitch. Her relationship with Taylor and the rest of the main cast was my favorite part of the series.
>>77656502
You should spoiler that bruh - for the new readers.
AlsoI'm pretty sure The Entities exchange a shitton of shards when they collide, not just one.
Why didn't mannequin putmanton'sbrain into a bacpack for theSiberionto wear?
>>77656553
I tried, I fucked up.
>>77656569
I'm pretty sureMantonneeded to be conscious.
>>77656577
Just look up Spoiler tagging on Google. There's an easier way to do it but I can't remember it for the life of me.
The one thing that sort of spoiled Worm for me was when Coil was trying to murder Taylor, shoots her once and says, "oh, she's bulletproof I guess" and doesn't even try for a doubletap.
The whole thing seemed like it was set up at Coil's expense just to give her a chance.
>>77653925
People say this, but I still don't understand.
If the locker was her second trigger and gave her the ability to control insects, what was her first trigger and what was the power that she got?
>>77656600
I did look it up, but being the Idiot that I am, I put spaces to separate the the spoiler tags from the sentence, thus the spoiler didn't work.
>>77653718
Skitter, but that might just be because we got to so fully explore her powers.
I wish we got to see more of Number Man or Contessa just to see the crazy shit they could pull off.
>>77656629
First and second was inside the locker.
>>77656629
Her first power was probably the ability to either control them or access their senses, then the second trigger which happened straight after was the other one of those.
>>77656208
I think /co/ would definitely accept Worm if it got more exposure. The two problems it has is that it's really long and there's no art involved. Even fan-art is hard to come by.
Is there any good download for the full series yet? I'm not asking for one, I'm just curious because I remember having to build a script to make ebooks form the website.
>>77656655
The first trigger would be controlling the bugs and the second would be the finer control and all the other stuff like sensing through them and stuff.
>>77656314
I honestly, just skimmed those parts.
Wildbow doesn't really linger on it too long, but it's just been done enough times for you get the gist of it if you just skim it.
>>77656607
To be fair, half of the Parahumans Taylor faces should be able to murder her rather easily.
It's jsut that she's "creative" with her powers.
Fun Fact: When theLeviathanfight was occurring, Wildbow actually rolled dice to see who would live and die.
Taylor nearly lost the dice roll.
>>77656629
Again, massive fucking spoilers to new readers.
It was explained IIRCHer first trigger was something along the lines of multi-sensing insects in the first place. The Second trigger is what actually let her control them.When Panacea unlocked the Administrator Shard's potency, the result was directed towards the control.
>>77656686
Potentially, but even then, Worm is more suited towards /lit/ but like others stated, they'd think it to be subpar capeshit trash - when in reality it's the most brilliant deconstruction of the capeshit genre I've ever read.
>>77656629
This is sort of explained in an interlude. Some heroes double trigger all at once. The side affects of the first trigger are so bad it causes them to trigger a second time instantly. Crusade describes it as being like a double orgasm. in this case Taylor got her power, but couldn't deal with suddenly feeling the minds of a few hundred bugs in her brain and triggered again to help her deal with the information.
>>77656686
Yeah, but since the majority of fan art is on DeviantArt It's a 50-50 chance that it will be good fan art and not the horribly drawn fetishy bullshit it usually is.
>>77656655
>>77656698
What the fuck, how does that make sense? Why would she get to trigger twice?
>>77656693
I think there is a few ebooks floating around i could try and get one for yall
>>77656737
>>77656746
Well nevermind, that answers my question.
>>77656746
Lots of people do.
Also, who's power would you want in real life /co/?
I'm tempted to say either Labyrinth or Dauntless.
>>77656746
See
>>77656737
>>77656768
>I'm not asking for one
I was just curious.
>>77656783
Why would I need to ask for a power anon? We all haveNice Guy'spower already
>>77656783
Contessa, or maybe Uber.
>>77656812
>>77656783
Probably imp's or victors. victors power would be really good in a cape-less world
>>77656817
>Contessa
That's essentially cheating Anon.
Pic Related
FUCKING WORM THREAD YES
Kinda regret reading the story after it was all over because all the places to discuss it are either dead or total shit. Fucking Spacebattles is a cesspool of autism.
>>77656854
>Spacebattles
Why would you go there Anon?
Aren't we nice?
>>77656139
Dude, Khonsu is like super Grey Boy. Fuck that, man. I'll take getting vaporized by Behemoth over being time-fucked into a liminal state of psuedoexistence.
>>77656854
The sub reddit: Parahumans is pretty active and they have a irc which wildbow himself frequents it
>>77656400
I remember being really interested in the Siberian's story when she first showed up at Bitch's place. Her powerset was also a really unique take on the standard invincibility powers.
And thenall the mystery and coolness evaporated when it turned out she wasn't even fucking real and just some projection of some desperate dad.
>>77656872
They have pretty much all the fanfic there is of worm. It's either that or sufficient velocity, and no ones heard of SV.
>>77653718
Coil. Dude was a creep, but like the idea of getting to tries at anything you do.
>>77656817
"Didn't Contessa's overuse of her power completely destroy her personality or something?"
>>77656935
>Coil. Dude was a creep
Didn't he pretty much say he used his power to fucking rape the Undersiders and shit?
>>77656935
You are now imagining everyone on 4chan with Coil's power.
Oh God, OH GOD
I don't even want to think about it.
The shit you sick fucks would get away with.
>>77656972
Dude. Was. A. Creep.
But his power was pretty bitchin.
Also wildbow ran a quest like thing from the perspective of a unpowered prt member somewhere
>>77656986
Anchorage Alaska
>>77656955
Damn it did I fuck up my spoiler again?
>>77656935
But most of Worm's fanfics are utter shit.
They're either power-wanking fests, or horrible Self-Inserts.
Don't even get me started on every Forced Taylor-Amy lesbian relationship
Amy's a creepy, obsessive, shitty human being like her sister and her biological father.
Taylor's just fucked up.
>>77656955
No, I don't think so.
>>77657007
I don't think you are doing it right at all. Everyone is laughing at you. What are the quotes even for?
>>77656651
I didn't like how they sort of magically could counter a lot of things that were thrown at them. I don't really see how 'seeing the path to victory' means you can stop getting swarmed by bugs. In certain circumstances, the path would just be "No.", it's not like you're a reality warper.
Same with Number Man. I get that seeing math is a great power, but it just seems like that ought not to be sufficient against a really overwhelming set of odds. You just lack the physical capacity as a standard human.
>>77656986
Welp, time to start reading.
>>77657048
Give him a break, he's trying.
Also if you were paying attention to what you yourself said, you'd realize the quotes were just him fucking up.
>>77656854
I go to Sufficient Velocity now.
>>77657080
Barely any better.
But at least it's not SB.
Hell, r/Parahumans is a far better place to discuss Worm that that fucking shithole
>>77657021
THE TECHNO QUEEN was quite good.
>>77657021
Then there are the ones that are utter crack.
Like the one where Taylor has the powers of the guy from 1 finger death punch, which has a portion where Lung goes into a dance-off against the triumvirate.seriously
>>77657021
Panaceas main problem is that, for whatever reason, she's completely unable to introspect. I guess being overworked might put a damper on it, but jesus christ you'd think that she could talk to some anonymous online group or take a philosophy class or anything.
Her problems are 100% psychological, and I don't think we can blame GGirl for all of them.
Big Behemoth Vs. All three of the faggots that replaced him. Who wins.
>>77657140
YES, finally got that damn spoiler right. All the examples showed them using quotes.
>>77657152
Her whole family was pretty terrible for her, honestly. The mom didn't want her, the father was barely available with his depression and y'know fucking Glory Girl.
![[HELICOPTER NOISES].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5mLGfdH.jpg "[HELICOPTER NOISES].jpg")
>>77657136
So people tell me.
However, it reads too campy and hamish for me.
Things like Propogation and Gather I preferred, too bad they're long dead and hosted on fucking Space Battles
>>77657140
>>77657140
Crack fics are intentionally ridiculous so they usually get a pass from me.
As for Amy, she's basically a broken mess, like you said. Too bad she never found help.
>>77657158
It depends,Tohu is arguably the most dangerous at full power. Khonsu can Teleport. And Bohu is Bohu.
>>77657168
Good Job Man.
>>77657158
Khonsu freezes him in time then fucks off. Done.
>>77657201
New Wave in general is fucking stupid IMO
>World full of dangerous murders and rapists with superpowers.
>Let's be traditional and wear no masks!
Fucking idiots.
Also Optimized Tohu using:
>Eidolon
>Glaisting Uaine
>Contessa
Is literally unbeatable; come at me.
>>77657201
True, but in most cases you'd think that with a terrible family there'd be some sort of outreach. Or her cousins would have a better relationship with her.
It just seems fairly implausible to me that she never once tried to reason her way out of the mental box she got caught in, espeically after all the shit that started going down. Being given one of the most OP healing powers on earth would certainly force you into thinking about Ethics a certain way, but she gets caught on the 'wah wah muh villain' track.
It's genuinely like reading the mental output of a ten year old.Call that shards interfering with mental processes or whatever, but fuck is it intolerable to read.
>>77657218
It doesn't seem like you could ever beat Khonsu. Time is not to be fucked with, and teleportation would no sell any attempt to pin him down.
He might not be able to beat anything that can shrug off his time fields, but I don't think there's anyway to kill him unless he wants to die.
![[Incoherent Flipping].gif](https://i.imgur.com/9MdNCae.gif "[Incoherent Flipping].gif")
>>77657250
To be fair, Amy would've been a monster if she were raised byHer Biological Father - Marquis
>>77657267
..............................................................Totally not spoilers everyone!
>>77657267
How hard would the earths collectively shit their pants if a version of Scion came onto the scene that was colored pure Void Black?
>>77657158
The way the Endbringers are constructed, I don't think they even have the means to kill each other, unless Tohu copies that one Indian guy.
>>77657285
Like anyone is going to know who the hell in of those three are, but fine, I'll delete it anyway.
Chevalier, Dragon, and Weld are the only actual "heroes" in canon, which is why they are top tier characters. Everyone else is a shitty person in some major way.
Also, Skidmark could have a been a really cool character if he used his powers differently. Rollerskating railgun user named "Slick Willy" - yes please.
>>77657250
IIRC she would go to random hospitals healing as many people as she could in her down time. It got to the point where she felt guilty just sleeping because she knew she wasn't saving people at that very instant.
Something like that would probably kill her social time.
>>77657299
The collective shit-force would be enough to make Phir-she's light bomb look like a fire cracker.
>>77657285
I don't think so, actually. Marquis is about as great as you can get for a villain who has access to Amy's power. The whole 'live by a code' thing would be extraordinarily helpful if she had a healthy mental state.
Hell, they probably would have just stopped being villains most of the time and made unlimited bank from Amy's services. Marquis was a lot of things, but outright dumb wasn't one of them.
>>77657267
That would mix well with the theories that I've heard thatAbaddon made Eden crash into earth on purpose in the hopes that the people on earth would kill her and the now weaken Zion so that he could steal their shards
>>77657274
In terms of Sheer Raw Destructive Power
Leviathan is technically the heaviest hitter.
Behemoth is a tank that can redirect and destroy virtually anything.
Simurgh is essentially the ultimate Tactical Surprise attack, her TK and TP are insane.
Khonsu is the epitome of BS with his reactive Teleportation. His Time Fields can also make him say "Nope" to most attacks.
Bohu is not exactly direct, but his traps are nasty as hell.
And Tohu.
Tohu is what happens when Wildbow says "Fuck It" that's all.
EoS Tohu with the Right combination can screw everyone over.
>Eidolon
>Glastig Uaine withEidolon Ghost
>Free Slot for Contessa or someone else.
>>77657305
It's fine man. Just Spoiler it
Why was Phir Se and Taylor's interaction the best part of Worm, and why was Phir Se the best character in the entire novel?
>>77657302
Tohu could replicate Flechette's powers, which would probably work. Especially paired with something like Kaiser or Siberian. Phir Se wouldn't be able to take on any of the Endbringers, even wielded by Tohu. He did superficial damage only.
>>77657364
I've always liked that theory. I like to think thatAbaddon became a cannibal entity, as to where the other two became symbiotic
>>77657364There's certainly some meat to the theory that Abaddon gave Eden the shard knowing it would kill her. His purposes are a bit unclear, though it is rational to assume he might be a predator of some sort. We don't know enough about the Entities to make too many assumptions.
>>77657389
Behemoths power was energy manipulation right? I remember reading somewhere that it was dynakinesis or something, which doesn't sound right because I know the term for energy manipulation is dynamokinesis.
>>77657389I actually don't think Tohu could do that because just nesting Eidolons and GU wouldn't make sense if their powers are conferred by shards. Does Tohu just have a shard photocopier?
>>77657441
I think wildbow meant dynamokinesis when he said dynakinesis, but I don't know. I like behemoth because he isn't just a tank in the sense that he can take a punch, which he can, but that even if you hit him hard enough that it would have done damage, he simply redirects into the ground.
>>77657441
Wildbow can't into Sci-Fi
Yes it's Dynakinesis meaning that Behemoth can redirect any form of energy.
Try and Blast him to Kingdom Come?
>He takes the Thermal and Electromagnetic Energy, redirects it.
Try punching him really hard like Alexandria or Superman?
>He takes the Kinetic energy and redirect it.
So yeah....... nothing short of Phir Se's little present would've damaged him.
Either that or an Eidolon/Glaistig Uaine Tag Team at full power.
Pic related is essentially Behemoth
>>77657522
Tohu's powers are never explicitly mentioned so it's up for grabs. I personally think that it would just carry over.
>>77657389
>Leviathan is technically the heaviest hitter.
I thought Leviathan's big thing was that even if he himself is contained, his macro-hydrokinesis will continue to fuck everything up until he's forced to retreat.
>>77657413
>>77657423
I always though thatall the entities acted in pairs, with one acting as the muscle (zion) and the other acting as the brain (eden), and that Abaddon was some member of their species that went rouge and consumed its counterpart. And then decided that it like cannibalism so it kept on going.
>>77657556
Yeah. I think the Kyushu and Newfoundland attacks had the highest Endbringer casualties of all the attacks. Maybe Behemoth's New York debut would have matched up.
>>77657556
Leviathan pulled a land mass off of it's continental shelf. He literally took a country and said, "You can go fuck off and sink." And it did. Levi don't fuck around.
>>77657547
To follow that
These Three are essentially the Three OG Endbringers
Ground (Behemoth - Groudon)
>Tank
>Damage Sponge
Sea (Leviathan Kyogre)
>Massive Speed in Water
>Water
Air (Simurgh Rayquaza)
>Boss, Keeps the other two in Line
>Death from Above
It's like Poetry
B R A V O W I L D B O W
>>77657569
We have no idea what the Entities as a species do, or if they even are a species. We know that they seem to be giant amalgamations of Shards (that use some sort of mass for the shards to adhere to) with some underlying intelligence that may or may not be an aggregate of the shards they contain.
Their society or anything like it is entirely opaque. We know what these two do, and we only suspect what Abaddon does. It might be reasonable to extrapolate out from the Zion/Eden relationship, but induction isn't really reliable in this case.
>>77657547
>Wildbow can't into Sci-Fi
No shit. I still have a hard time believingthe endbringer's cores are as dense as spiral galaxies/neutron stars (whatever), which is bullshit. And that Scion was able to beat them (which makes him even MORE bullshit)
>>77657675
I mean, we're dealing with Ayy Lmaos who have advanced to such a degree that their science is basically magic to us.
We're talking about things that can either fuck with Time Itself, or are able to manipulate atoms in such a way as to make it seem as if time is reversing, along with breaching into other dimensions.
We've entered full 'bullshit scifi' territory by the time we learn what Scion really is.
These are Magic Aliens, bro.
>>77657675
Taylor is bullied into becoming Skitter.Skitter bullies Scion to deathBullying is the most powerful shard
It's like poetry
>>77657675
The endbringers' cores are not that dense. They have that much matter to pull from to heal, held in a pocket dimension or something, but the actual cores themselves are only said to be super dense.
>>77657640I thought the story explained that the reason the entities release powers is that eventually one of the shards will mutate in such a way so as to allow them to access limitless energy so that they can feed off of this limitless energy and not have to worry about the heat death of the universe or something. But that just might be some theory I heard.
>>77657757I don't think the entities have any specific goal in mind with their research. Just "evolution" In general.
>>77657640
>>77657757The shards are the abilities that the Entities possess. They give them to humans (and other alien species) to develop the shards and have them evolve and multiply - through trigger events, cape babies and etc. The Endbringers were supposed to be the tools that forced the humans to develop their powers or otherwise face extinction. Then once the shards have been developed enough, the Entities would reabsorb them with new and improved powers, destroying the worlds they visit in the process.
>>77657803
Specifically they convert the matter to energy to fuel their voyage to the next poor planet.
>>77657757
I don't think it's an unreasonable theory, and the whole Avoid The End this is made explicit. But it doesn't really explain what they are or any facets beyond that we know Scion and Eden do some specific things in the course of the story, and that there's one more who may or may not have eaten his partner and as a result gained a cannibalistic urge.
I tend to think of them as scientists who are just running brute-force experimentation to optimize their research in so-and-so ways. If they had their goal, it probably died with Eden. Thus, Scion's complete loss of purpose. It would also support that there is something fundamental to the Entities that isn't merely an amalgamation of shards, elsewise Scion would have just glommed her and continued on going.
Really, there's a lot of room for interpretation. You're not going to get a straight answer unless WB himself decides he wants to lay it all out. That's unlikely, to understate it.
>>77657757
That's partially it.
That's the reason why Tinkers are so dangerous.The Shards Tinkers use are recycled from the other advanced species Scion and Eden used to observe.This is why Tinkers an come up with extremely advanced gadgets and weaponry which seem to bypass the laws of physics and thermodynamics.It's because they're using ideas created by other races before them. And the Entities hoped they'd find them a stable, infinite power source to feed off of for eternity.
>>77657803
>>77657819
Now that I think about itI wonder wildbow simply made the entities expy's of galactus with the whole consuming planets for their energy thing.
>>77657866
Because it's a fairly reasonable villainous end game if you're big and powerful enough compared to the tiny species you're going to devour.
>>77657866
Maybe
>>77657803
Also, the Shard's arent technically that.
They're actuallyPieces of the Entities themselves hard-coded with the information gathered from other sapient beings.
With that in mind it's important to realize that the Entities canNaturally manipulate physics and thermodynamics with their "Shards" they just don't have the imagination - which was the entire reason they loaned them out to lesser beings - like humanity.
>>77657866
I think Galactus definitely had some influence there. I think Lovecraft was also a big factor. They are meant to be the impossible, unearthly force, that no human, or group of humans can ever hope to comprehend, let alone defeat. Even in the end the only way the got one to die wasto make it kill its self.
When this thread dies, who's gonna have the balls to create /wg/ - Worm General?
Anybody?
Because I'd prefer that to garbage like RWBY or half the other shit generals posted here.
>>77657913
>they just don't have the imaginationI think it was just Zion who didn't have any imagination since he was just the muscle of the Pair.
>>77657990Eden had brains, but was just as uncreative as Zion. The only reason she could have come up with her plan for eternal conflict on earth was because of the PtV shard.
>>77657982
I prefer these threads as being only occasional things. If we start a general, we're going to run out of things to say real fucking fast.
>>77657982
There's not too much to go upon for a general. The fanbase isn't large enough that people can just shoot the shit about minor stuff and a large majority of simply being in the thread would get you insta-spoiled for a lot of important stuff.
We could doubtless have Nasuverse lore wankoffs and Vs arguments, but that's not very classy. Best to let it come and go gracefully.
>>77657990It's implied that Eden had a goal in mind when it came to harvesting worlds, so that would be an interpretation that's supportable.
>>77657990Eden was more of a planner herself. She was designed to keep their race alive in immediate circumstances.
Propagation is one of my favorite Worm Fic's because it's about what happens when:Eden sends out a shit-ton of her shards right before her death, and they attach themselves to Taylor, making her incredibly powerful, but still hindered because of the transfer process.
>>77658058
>>77658057
This always happens here.
OP reminds us of some niche and amazing thing we could the discuss.
But there are valid and legitimate reasons as to why it wouldn't work.
>mfw
First /mhg/ - Metahuman General
nor Worm.
What more do you want from me God?
Can't I just have this?
>>77658071
I'm tempted to write a fic about one shard becoming self aware, and jumping the sinking ship that is the earth experiment. Maybe permanently changing itself from a piece of Zion/Eden and latching on to a human.
>>77658207
Please continue anon.
>>77658150
Because the genre is fairly niche and reading Worm is an enormous time investment. If you really wanted it, I might suggest formulating some method of attracting readers to Worm or webserials in general. (Though, to be honest, only a few are very worth anyone's time.)
On that note, I'd suggest reading SuperPowereds. It's the campy counterpart to Worm that, despite relying overly on cliches, is actually a fabulously refreshing read after or before Worm. I like them both equally, for different reasons.
>>77658207
I had an idea about Taylor's shard basically overwriting her mind when she goes catatonic in the locker. Taylor basically says 'fuck this, I'm out' and the Shard has to assume direct control in order to not die. Because it has the capacity to pilot humans, and doesn't really risk the 'danger' of killing the host (Taylor's dead, after all) it has to adjust and try to pose as her using her rough memories.
This very robotic and inhuman Taylor goes out and tries to do what Taylor would have done, find conflict in being a hero. She meets Uber & Leet on her first night out, and shenanigans ensue as they realize something's obviously wrong. I haven't plotted it in my head beyond that, but if I was ever going to write some fanfiction, that's what it would be.
>>77658317
I maintain that if someone were willing to convert Worm to a comic, It would get an influx of readers.
>>77658317
Thanks for the Recommendation Anon.
>>77658371
The Sheer Time Investment would be immense.
But potentially worth it. It's far better than say a Movie adaptation.
>B-But Taylow would just be Ant-Man as a Girl!
Sure she would.
>>77658371
That would be one long ass fucking comic, mate. I don't even doubt a little bit that it might take off if one of the big publishing companies were to try it, but I wouldn't want to relinquish WB's power in the creative process. I doubt any of the big houses would stand for that.
>>77658379
Mind that the cliches are there, on the whole, pretty intentionally. WB likes to subvert them, but Drew plays with them in a very friendly way.
Uhh, the series actually tends to be more well thought out than it might, at first, appear. Other than that, have fun. It's a fabulous coming-of-age tale for an older crowd. It's pretty much as long as Worm, too.
>>77658292
>>77658317
The idea would be that the shard would be one of higher "rank" Like Taylor's or GU. I don't know what its exact purpose would be, but It would require it to have enough individual thinking power to not just be a near mindless computer. I'm thinking it decides that since Eden is Dead and Zion is Dying, but because it still doesn't have the ability to exist purely on it's own, I sort of just latches on to some guy as the new "Entity".
>>77658573
WB stated that when a Shard gains full control, you get a Tinker 12 or something, it mostly just kills the host because they lack any survival instinct. The hard would have to be something that interfaces with Human Cognition enough for it to realize that it needs to do certain things for survival, and also have some sort of endgame.
It might not actually need that last one, just having a rebellious shard leaving the folks and getting a tattoo might be funny enough.
We'd be limited to Master, Thinker, Stranger, though. Trump has been woefully overdone.
>>77658619
True, but Trump Powers are fun as hell to design and exploit.
What's the fun in power if you can't use it?
>>77658642
Because Trumps tend to fall in the "stupid OP" range of powers. Also, 'having every power' isn't nearly as fun to read as exploring the limits of one power.
>>77658619
The shard wouldn't actually be integrating with the host though. He's basically just tell the guy "Hey, I'm this alien computer thing. I can do so and so and you now my adopted space dad. What do captain?"
>>77658705
Shards can't communicate that way, as we've seen with the Entities. Their cognition is just super alien to us, so it would be a struggle to reach any sort of complex level of understanding. They person would probably write it off as their shard giving them 'the crazies'.
>>77658696
>hating ridiculously overpowered characters.
C'mon f a m
>>77658847
It's just overdone in the fandom. The fun of Worm is in the struggle.
>>77653638
This is one of my all time favorite books despite how tucking long it is I wish there was more. I hope the author does a sequel after his current book, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Does anyone have any recommendations on something similar to this that I could read next?
Loved how he wrote dragon.
>>77656400
Accord is the coolest.
>comes up with plans to solve every world problem
>nobody cares
>decides to take over the world to implement all his plans
>is actually slow, methodical, and subtle about it
I liked how it actually had an in universe explanation for villains being in a revolving door of incarceration->escape and back again.
>>77659611
I heard early 2016 actually was when they were planning to start their next one, which would be a worm sequel.
I'm curious, how do you think these guys would fare in wormverse, i mean in terms of cape politics?.
>>77656718
I'm still sort of pissed Aegis died, though the die roll sort of explains it.
>>77656080
Word of God says that if Eidolon, Alexandria, and Legend were to fight him, they'd have around a 1/36 chance to make it out alive. He's making it a point to not talk about what the power is, but it's gonna be something falls in the range of "complete bullshit".
>>77659039
Honestly, a lot of characters fall into the OP zone. Tattletale's bullshit, Armmaster's bullshit, Panacea and Imp are ultra-bullshit... It balances out because everybody has problems / hard counters. Figuring how to beat an opponent that has a better power is a running theme in the book.
>>77661620
Cauldron takes them out early in their careers.
>>77661620
Eh, The Doctor alone could potentially solo most threats up to Scion.
His Magic/Psionics are virtually unbeatable
He only really dies getting Mindraped by the Simurgh since TP is his one weakness.
Apparently /co/ forgot just how powerful he and Jenny Q are.
>>77657250
My personal opinion is that she was more than just in love with GG, she was clinically obsessed. And, that obsession was constantly reinforced by GG's powers constantly bombarding her brain and affecting its development. In a situation like that introspection wasn't even possible for her. It was only after GG's death that her brain was given a chance to start to develop normally.
>>77657840
so you be saying the entities are the celestials?
fuck all that worm needed all along was DOOM
>>77663944
There's afanfic called dire worm that explores the idea of a doctor doom like villain in wormverse, but fair warning its on spacebattles, so expect wanking and lots of it.
>>77656112
what about a genre fiction board?
So Taylor's shard, is she completely free from it? Or is it like cutting off a broadcast signal. Like, is she technically a parahuman (like would Jack's parahuman reading ability apply to her, and would any kids she have have the increased potential to be parahumans?)
>>77661044
>gets killed by an angry teenager
>>77656400
Mannequin, I liked the design and the character a lot.
Grey Boy was also pretty horrifying
>>77663944
The Celestials are several tiers above the Entities, it's not even funny.
One thing I never understood.How did Eidolon make the endbringers in the first place?
He unconsciously sacrificed some of his own power to bring them into existence. Or, he unconsciously called up an ability similar to Manton's that let him permanently produce projections.
OrMagic, bitch. Ain't gotta' 'splain shit.
>>77668261
The entities were created by Eden to act as "chaos Engines". They were basically meant to keep the world in a constant state of conflict, like how Simurgh stopped sphere from putting humanity in space and turning him into Mannequin.Eden Died though, so the endbringer cores just sort of sat around unactivated. Eidolon's power is effectively super powered wish fulfillment, so when Eidolon started subconsciously desiring worthy opponents his power grabbed the sleeping endbringer cores and gave him worthy opponents.
>>77657152
>I don't think we can blame GGirl for all of them.
No shit. Most of the blame goes to the woman who thinks Evil is genetic.
Fuck something is wrong with the whole family, want proof? Look at their kids and Regent.
Regent, Second Generation Cape of a man who has complete and utter domination of Emotions. Took years of intentionally trying just to get four of his many children to Trigger.
New Wave Kids, All of them triggered before they were in their late teens.
Hell look at Glory Girl's power. Yeah, she pinged off of Gallant but still. How distant must her parents have been that she triggered with the ability to make people adore and love her?
That's not even getting into the theories thatPanacea is a First Generation Cape with a Royal Shard, not the result of a bud. But that one is just a theory, with no word either way from Wildbow.
