>I have no will of my own
>He made me murder children
>A BLOO BLOO BLOO
Women are disgusting.
>>77609039
perfectly good comedic relief
ruined
>>77609039
>Literally a fictional character
>Uses the fictional character to form an opinion on real people
You're the reason why people think comic book readers are all fat neckbeared virgins.
>>77609093
It's co-written by a woman, you dolt.
Yeah, Harley is shit. I mean she was always a shit person, but now she's a shit character.
>>77609110
>Co-written
I suppose since Purple Man was created by men, they have the absolute authority to say all men are rapists.
Why does she look so BAD
WHY DOES EVERYONE LOOK SO BAD
>"... IN MY HEAD!"
wew lad
>>77609142
Are they not?
>>77609039
>harlem harley
...really?
I really can't stand Harley's new design desu
>>77609039
Her being emotionally and mentally weak is believable womanly trait.
>>77609178
Dude, I was with you on the Harley thing up until now. Don't start generalizing shit.
>>77609039
>No one brutally beats the Joker but me!
Men are disgusting.
>>77609291
I'm a different anon.
>>77609039
Compleeeete crap.
>posts Harley
>"Women are disgusting"
Oh boy, here we go
>>77609295
>Harley is disgusting
ftfy
>>77609291
>"Don't start generalizing shit."
>OP's post generalizes women
>You don't care
>Post generalizes men
>"WTF DUDE?"
>>77609295
jeez, must suck walking in on your boyfriend going at it with his piece on the side
Why is womynsplaning tolerated?
The ectogenesis pods can't get here fast enough.
>>77609372
Because women are perfect and faultless creatures that can do no wrong.
Yes, this is how society looks at women nowadays. I guess it's a little better than them being made lower than dogs in an islamic society though, but one could argue that both are extremes that shouldn't be reached.
>>77609579
>having a safe space
As a pretty casual reader/show watcher, I don't really think Harley needed a spotlight shone on her.
She was pretty simple side-character, but she keeps getting attention.
Is there something I've missed outside of the fact 'she has a cool costume' as to why they keep pushing her?
>>77609592
She's everyone's waifu who did nothing wrong.
>He made me murder children
PROTIP: only asspies still care about that comic.
>>77609579
Humanity really seems to have a boner for extremism, doesn't it?
But still I like to think of this wave of aggressive feminism as the unpleasant side effect of our civil society's achievements. It's fantastic that at this time and age you can be an atheist, gay, black, a woman or whatever and still have most doors open in life. We are concerned about the environment, animals and other things that concern the bigger picture. I love the times we live in.
>>77609716
>It's fantastic that at this time and age you can be an atheist, gay, black, a woman or whatever and still have most doors open in life.
On paper. In reality people are still dicks to every group they don't belong to.
>>77609734
This
You can't really get rid of racism without the threat of a jackboot on everyone's face
>>77609295
Some things never change.
>>77609704
How come?
>>77609592
She works as a villain, heroine, anti-heroine, anti-villain, victim, henchwoman/slave to the joker/genuinly effective portrayal of spousal abuse (or in OP's case, surviving spousal abuse, but if we're thinking in terms of "seeing the person who harmed you everywhere" you can imagine how the women Bill Cosby raped must have felt); she can be whatever you want, even a badass, and STILL be a cooky, utterly funny violent sociopathic lunatic.
She's the most versatile character on Earth, and always interesting at it.
She's a perfect character like Peter Parker or The Misfits from Jem: the only way to make her boring is to write her as the OPPOSITE of who she is.
>>77609770
>>77609744
Wrong, dipshit. That's what education is for.
>>77609039
What's great and tragic about this is that the comic shows just what the Joker did to Harley and exactly how she feels about it, and yet you KNOW she will fall back into his arms the first time she sees him again. But that's just what makes Harley so compelling.
>>77609767
Everyone else moved on because literally every other comic with Harley Quinn in it is just that much more interesting and fun to read and discuss.
>>77609039
I wouldn't judge women in general from a shitty cape comic aimed at teenagers.
>>77609792
Gentlemen, I give you:
The Pleb.
>>77609372
Because so-called "mansplaining" is as well.
You'll gain nothing by acting as retarded as the people you disagree with.
>>77609579
I mean when you use hyperbole it's pretty easy to make something out to be extreme.
>>77609592
People like her, that means money. This isn't exactly rocket science.
>>77609795
>implying racism will ever go away
>implying that Harley is compelling and is only bad because of the Joker
>implying that you dislike the comic for any other reason than it made Harley look bad
Harleyfags are becoming dumber and more insufferable at an alarming rate.
>>77609809
You're the pleb m8. Harley is shit. She was only decent as a villain.
>>77609809
Why? Bacause I don't get overly invested in a dull character?
>>77609809
Upvoted my good sir :)
>>77609885
>>77609903
Dipshit or samefag: does it even matter?
>>77609870
>implying racism will ever go away
Well not with that attitude it won't, dumbfuck.
>implying that Harley is compelling and is only bad because of the Joker
Implying otherwise - the toppest of keks
>implying that you dislike the comic for any other reason than it made Harley look bad
I don't dislike it, I disregard it, I actively don't CARE about it. Which I am able to do, BECAUSE I'M NOT AN ASSPIE.
Honestly, you morons hating Harley just keep embarrassing yourselves more and more every day.
>>77609940
Harleyfags really have no room to be calling people dipshits.
>>77609870
Few days ago, Harleyfag said that Harley killing kids during Forever Evil isn't canon.
>>77609976
>actively don't care (for unspecified reasons)
>not an aspie
>>77609985
No, people who hate Harley have room to refute being called dipshits.
>>77610002
...yes, that's exactly what being a well-adjusted individual means.
So it's understandable that you know nothing about what that means, you being an asspie and all.
>>77609994
But even if it was, nobody (but retards) care about it.
>>77609523
>The FUTURE of AMERICA is WHITE! And MALE! And GAY!
>>77609770
She's an insufferable supervillain that has succeeded in committing countless acts of thievery, assault, torture, and murder. She's only popular because people like the fact that she can take/beat/kill anything or anyone she wants and get away with it because THE JOKER was mean to her.
She's not versatile. She's always a self-important and self-pitying bully. She sees someone she doesn't like and hurts or kills them. Her existence has been to the detriment of many other people's favorite characters who were written to job to her, diminishing their stature in order to be a stepping-stool for Harley. But apparently people find her cute so it's all good.
Honestly I wouldn't give a shit if DC wasn't pushing the shit out of Harley while amazing books like Gotham Academy, Catwoman and Omega Men are left in the dust.
Hate to burst your little hate-bubble faggots, but Harley will have her own movie before your favorite shitty superhero, and she will be a worldwide sex symbol before the turn of the decade.
Suck it down.
i miss old harley costume
>>77609976
>Well not with that attitude it won't, dumbfuck.
My attitude is realistic. No matter what, racism will always exist. No amount of education and wishful thinking will change that.
>Implying otherwise - the toppest of keks
So you don't actually know anything about Harley then? Her creators made her a dumb petty slut who turned villain. She wasn't a pure flower that got corrupted.
>>77609976
>I don't dislike it, I disregard it, I actively don't CARE about it. Which I am able to do, BECAUSE I'M NOT AN ASSPIE.
Yeah disregarding what doesn't line up with your uninformed opinions is standard procedure for Harleyfags.
>>77610089
My favorite superhero is Spider-Man.
>>77610029
Whatever keeps your delusion going.
>>77610089
Harley is getting a solo film?
And here we go
>>77610199
>not canon!
>>77610199
>only asspies care about my waifu slaughtering small children
>>77610199
Fuck off. This is not canon. This was never canon and you fucking know it.
>>77610420
Your denial is delicious.
>>77609295
>Joker's face
>>77610428
It was retconned by Jimmy Palmiotti. It's not canon. Nobody cares about your stupid trolling. Shut the fuck up.
>>77610228
>>77610420
It is canon.
It's her Forever Evil villain issue.
Those issues are all canon. They did not make an exception just for Harley, even if you want it so much.
Harley is a villain. Deal with it. You can still like her.
>>77610449
>It was retconned by Jimmy Palmiotti.
Source?
>>77610460
>>77610480
My source is your mother's ass you fucking faggot. Why did you had to destroy this thread you piece of rotten shit? Fuck off.
>>77610449
Your waifu is a slutty villainous piece of trash.
>>77609159
Conner got too lazy to keep drawing so she became a terrible writer instead. RIP.
>>77610487
>>77610495
STOP POSTING
>>77609039
>muh strong abuse survivor character
literally ruining a fun fictional fucked up evil person for your stupid bullshit
>>77610499
No
>>77610438
>>77609295
>>77609039
another victim of "da patriarchy"!
>>77610508
Well guess what? Her book is popular so I win this. You lose. My version of Harley is correct and yours will get lost in obscurity. Conner and Palmiotti will do exactly what fans want and fans want this murder bullshit retconned so your opinions don't matter. Who is butthurt now faggot?
>>77610486
Is this false flagging? Surely no one can be this autistic.
>>77610535
>Who is butthurt now faggot?
You.
>>77610551
Whatever
>>77610535
>Who is butthurt now faggot?
You?
>your [version] will get lost in obscurity
>the original Bruce Timm version
>the arkham games versions
Haha, okay sweetie. Conner's a bad writer and next event this book to be rebooted, but the best versions that made her popular will always be there. And they are very much not your 'muh abuse survivor hero not-a-murderer harley' version.
>>77610499
Harley is evil, trashy, and cruel and she loves it.
>>77609039
>Next page has Harlem Harley tearing up
Harley Quinn is a monster.
I mean she's still responsible for her actions but this is a legitimate defense admissible by court and has precedence in several other cases
>>77610605
crocodile tears.
all women now how to turn on the water works at the drop of a hat. if you say otherwise then you've obviously never hung around women or are lying.
>>77610486
Your butthurt tears are delicious.
>>77610043
"Actively not caring" is not something normal people do, no.
Not caring is a passive endeavor, except if you're obsessed with the thing you're trying to ignore. Like an aspie would be.
And hey would you look at tgat, you've been discussing this thing you allegedly don't care about for the whole thread. I don't think you're good at this.
>>77610587
It's okay. Haley being a mass child murderer doesn't mean you can't like her.
>>77610228
>>77610420
DC = Damage Control!!
>>77610619
Oh you, show me on the doll where they touched you.
>>77609217
this is true. but it doesnt absolve her of any guilt. she still commited those crimes. she still murdered people and she thought it fun
>>77609039
Yet more proof that all women are victims of circumstance, and can be saved.
>>77610486
>OP openly hates on Harley
>anon doesn't expect a hate thread
Wow.
>>77609039
>Harley Quin is disgusting
FTFY
>>77609039
The less Harley is associated with Joker the better.Because she's a shit character
>>77610080
Excellent
>>77610535
Haha is this real life?
>>77610670
That is the thing. Her trying to act like a victim is perfectly alright. Cause that is how women try to act instead of owning up to their actions.
So this scene should of been alright. But sadly in context I don't think it is.
>>77611089
You forgot on what board you are.
>>77611089
What's YOUR problem?
>>77613517
Let it die.
>>77610705
Sounds like the genderbent counterpart of female-aimed fiction. The male lead can be a serial rapist but he's SO MISUNDERSTOOD and need a self-insert to save him
>>77610785
She's the female Joker. How can you say that she's any worse than him?
>>77614547
>wanting to redeem a monster
>not wanting to manipulate it into doing your bidding
I'll never understand neither men nor women.
>>77610449
>this pleb thinks canon means shit in comics
>>77610535
So much you.
>>77610619
*tipping intensifies*
>>77609142
The Purple Man is a villain and in the wrong. The Comedian would have been a better example. Just trying to help you out.
>>77615002
>The Purple Man is a villain and in the wrong
He is? Next you'll say Mr. Harvey did something wrong.
>>77615048
Sure I will! I don't know who that is, but you seem like a trust worthy guy.
I just like watching Harley do her own thing away from the Joker. It's nice.
>>77610600
Suicide Squad Reverse Flash was the closest we've gotten to the real Wally in n52
>>77609142
>>77615002
>>77615048
I don't understand this argument. but i'm interested how Tennet fangirls will react when they see him as a serial rapist in Jessica Jones
This entire thread is fucking cancer.
>>77615327
Ditto. It'll be beautiful.
>Is there something I've missed outside of the fact 'she has a cool costume' as to why they keep pushing her?
Even if that was the case, they keep changing her fucking costume.
I hope all of this end up with her reunion with her one true loveyou-know-who
>>77615480
Deadshot?
>>77615491
I know you're trolling, stop that
>>77611136
Actually, that's just criminals in general. It is always someone else's fault. The court system is just more likely to buy it from a woman.
This comic book was clearly written with retards as the target audience.
>>77615544
But I'm a retard and I don't buy nor read this book
>>77609039
>>77610619
Is this guy always the same anon going around threads with a massive axe to grind against women?
>>77614755
>How can you say the female verion of an original chacter is worse than said original character?
I really miss when Harley was actually working for Joker.
I don't know WHAT she is now, but it doesn't feel right.
>>77618881
She should work for Ivy tbqh. It make for a better dinamic imo
>>77618982
Every thread like this you Ivy faggots show up and every thread ends with you getting blown the fuck out by people pointing out that both Harley and Ivy have to get all their interesting edges shaved off to exist together harder than a battered housewife.
I'm starting to understand why you sympathize with Harley.
>>77619325
Well, sorry for wanting Harley to be with someone that appreaciate her and understand her. Sorry for wanting for Harley to move on from her abusive relationship to another relationship with someone that cares about her
>>77619537
You should be sorry you want to make two characters become fucking boring just to satisfy your yuri boner instead of letting them be interesting apart.
>>77619588
If you can't see the potential of Harley & Ivy together then its not my problem. You're too closed minded to see how could it really work
>>77619649
>potential
You do realize that they've been having moments together for years and even had a mini-series, right?
>>77619649
If you're too stupid to see that de-fanging a genocidal supervillainess and mass murderer into a tsundere bump on a log who does nothing and openly contradicts herself is disgusting, you should have been drowned at birth.
>>77619681
Yeah I know. And that's what I am referring to. There's have been stories of them together , why stop there? at a 3-issues miniseries?.
>>77609320
Why did you greentext that? It's literally just what OP's post was
>>77619736
Because it ruins both characters, Anon. They are both made lesser by the inclusion of one another.
>>77609039
Harley should be viewed as a tragedy, even a victim, but she should not be absolved of guilt. She might have turned out to be a better person if Joker hadn't gotten his claws in her, and in most timelines where the Joker dies she gets her act together with him out of the picture. But she's still a very weak-willed person that latched onto Joker as a personification of her own fantasies. She WANTED to be a murdering lunatic like Joker, and should be punished fully for her crimes.
>>77619794
It doesn't ruin either character, it just isn't viable unless it's the endgame.
>>77619711
>you should have been drowned at birth.
Woah anon, calm down. Don't be edgy
>>77619794
Both characters are lesser. One is a Joker fangirl and the other is a femme-fatale. If anything they both help each other with having time in the spotlight
>>77619588
Yurifag here. Don't lump me in with this retarded tumblrite
>>77619876
>>77619891
The core of Harley Quinn's character is that of a rabid Joker fangirl who eschews the normal world to be with him, emphasizing his cult of personality and giving Joker another parallel to Batman. Harley has her own traits, but they are entirely secondary to the core reason she existed in the first place post Mad Love.
The core of Poison Ivy's character is to kill all humans and let plants rule the world.
Neither of them can do that if they're attached at the hip to one another and it makes no sense, so they have to have those less romantic aspects of their personalities filed off to make it fit and that makes the characters less authentic and overall worse as a whole. I'm disgusted that people tolerate worsened characters just to get their rocks off.
>>77620123
Bro Bro Bro... You are no thinking straight. Well you're thinking straight, you are not thinking twisted enough. Let's say that Harley character can remain the same but with only a few changes, she still has an adoration for Joker but at the same time she has this new character to care about and the others Harley's traits can remain the same.
Poison Ivy the same, she still want to kill humans and let the green rule the world, but this time she has this fight ... this typical fight of her human side vs her mother nature side, just because she got someone by her side. Would that be okay for you?
Bane has more redeemable traits than Harley does. Same goes for Ridley, Ivy and Penguin, they all are better anti-hero material. Prove me wrong.
>>77620324
No you dolt, they both immediately lose all legitimacy when they go against their central purpose as a character. What about this is so hard to figure out? It's like if Captain America said "You know, maybe those Jew cookers have the right idea..."
>>77620456
Its not going agaisnt the core, its adding more layers of characteristics so the characters aren't one-note/statics and be more dinamic
>>77620019
That was a gross generalization Anon, I apologize.
>>77620364
All true.
All of them Harley included are also more redeemable than Doctor Strange, Deadpool, Scott Summers or Captain America.
>>77620517
Ironic that shipping the two of them would turn them into one-note static wank fuel then.
>>77620694
To be fair around 60% of DC villains have more admirable traits than most Marvel heroes from Civil War onwards
>>77615327
>>77615360
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-11-21/these-doctor-who-fans-cant-cope-with-evil-david-tennant-in-jessica-jones
I detest Harley's popularity with all my heart and soul, but there's something amusing about watching stupid women so desperate for a "strong" female character they can find without actually reading or knowing about comics that they'll do these obscene mental gymnastics to justify wanton murder and psychopathy.
>>77620123
Harley is a woman whose relationship with the man she's obsessed with is self-destructive and abusive.
Ivy is obsessed with plants, but she's also obsessed with femininity and womanhood.
Ivy sees Harley as a woman who needs to be saved from herself. Harley is one of the few actual humans Ivy can associate with precisely because Ivy sees her as weak. Harley likes Ivy's attention because she doesn't get it from the Joker, and manipulates Ivy's infatuation with her to get what she wants.
Both women are sick damaged people that feed off of each other.
>>77622318
>>77622444
Checked
>>77622444
vacation tenzin pls go
>>77622318
That sounds like a really interesting story, Anon.
What it doesn't sound like is a healthy, happy, or lasting relationship which was my point. The two of them can be interesting together, but really only in a way that highlights their fucked up-ness.
>>77622558
That's kind of the point, man. They're villains and psychopaths. Like Batman, they're incapable of being happy. Happiness doesn't make for good stories.
Harley will keep pining for the Joker until he tries to kill her again, Ivy will keep pining for Harley until Harley comes running back to her crying, Ivy will tell Harley not to go back, and Harley will run straight back to the Joker as soon as he calls for her. And it'll keep happening until one of them dies.
>>77622704
>Harley will keep pining for the Joker until he tries to kill her again, Ivy will keep pining for Harley until Harley comes running back to her crying, Ivy will tell Harley not to go back, and Harley will run straight back to the Joker as soon as he calls for her. And it'll keep happening until one of them dies.
>>77621927
There aren't a huge amount of stronk female characters who aren't psychos. The classic literary device of a woman who decisively acts is a manipulative villainess.
>>77622704
You I like.
>>77621927
Men love her too
Fuck off, neckbeard
>>77622704
Not if DC kills the Joker. freeing Harley from the Joker will give Ivy full pass on the clown V, and with that the chance to win Harley's heart...Yes, Yes, a perfect, flawless plan. Magnificent , I am a genius
>>77622444
Dam Son
>>77610591
The Original Bruce Timm version, while a villain, was portrayed pretty sympathetically though...
>>77622860
Waifufags are not "men."
>>77624619
I can be sympathetic that Hitler went nuts after being in WWI, but that doesn't mean he's a good person.
I'm calling false flag on every single post in this thread. There is a creepy Harley and Ivy shipper who has been constantly posting for weeks in co. I've been watching him. It's one guy, constantly spamming. This is really creepy.
>>77625036
I didn't know you cared about me anon. I am touched
>>77625082
You are a very creepy fellew anon.
>>77625036
You mean the same guy that keep on posting Poison ivy x Harley? Every fucking thread that talks about her?
>>77625082
>>77625170
What? Am I not allowed to post about things I like? Even when its on topic?
>>77625170
This. There's just one creepy fucker who keeps trying to push this Harley Ivy shit. They never interacted in the show at all.
>>77625529
Oh they did...
But, It seem like fan services or villains teaming up. These guys grow up with it and they pushing their shit into our faces.
>>77625529
That's me again. I should really get a trip so all of you can filter me
>>77625666
>they did
[citation fucking needed]
I've seen all the shows. Harley Quinn and Ivy NEVER interact. It's just more bullshit shipper shit
>>77625666
Worse even is the romanticization of fuck-buddies.
Two adults can be friends, like each other, and fuck on the occasion (though I do agree 100% that ANY time Harley and Ivy are trotted out together these days is purely for fanservice bux) and not love each other. This one autistic guy just can't seperate physical sex with emotional love.
>>77625666
>>77625758
>>77625774
Okay Okay, I get it. I should stop posting
>>77625910
Yeah probably, you need to be 18 to post on this website anyway.
>>77610089
>Hate to burst your little hate-bubble faggots, but Harley will have her own movie before your favorite shitty superhero,
>mfw my favorite Superhero is Hellboy
>>77626088
>>77625758
Batman the Animated Series, Season 1, Episode 56: Harley and Ivy.
???
??
>>77625758
>>77627118
Also The New Batman Adventures- Episode "Girls Night Out" (it had Livewire and Supergirl)
>>77627118
It's fun that shippers forget that Harley ruined her partnership with Ivy because she missed Mistah J so much and she wanted to go back to the joker at the end of the episode.
>>77609039
Anon, once you accept the truth that nothing is ever a woman's fault, you will understand feminism.
