Good evening owls of /co/,
The ultimate goal is Frankencastle, but why not start at the top
>>77581295
Public Service Announcement: Jared FATE is now being Comixology'd.
I eagerly await the digital rips.
>>77581313
>Jared FATE is now being Comixology'd.
YES
>>77581295
Hello Storyteller.
I have read just about zero Punisher material. Is this one of those runs where Frank is portrayed as a sympathetic nutjob, or is this just full on asshole time?
>>77581313
speaking of PSAs and comixology there is a huge JSA sale!
https://www.comixology.com/JSA-75th-Anniversary-Sale/page/8800
>>77581313
YES
Did you see that thing Mark Millar wrote about Huck and Man of Steel?
Felt a little... disingenuous and sincere at the same time, but that's kind of Mark Millar in a nutshell, isn't it?
>>77581313
>Jared FATE is now being Comixology'd.
Oh, God yes. Such an underrated character.
>>77581348
I'm not sure, but there's some wacky fucking Frankventures ahead! Also it's Dark Reign so he's trying to kill Norman Osborne, which is a worthy goal
>>77581340
I KNOW! It's all $1.99 an issue right now, tho
>>77581295
Hi OP!
>>77581295
Speaking of Remender, Tokyo Ghost is getting better and better. The only thing I don't like is that we're already at that point were everything seems perfect for our protagonists and things can only get worse from here.
>>77581375
As Millar fan - it was such a transparent way of promoting his own comic.
He did interviews like that for Chrononauts and Starlight too.
>>77581348
Well he's trying to kill Norman Osborn according to the cover, so I'd say that's pretty understandable.
>>77581389
HI ANON
>>77581375
The real non-edgelord Millar is emerging again, like a cicada in its cycle
>>77581385
>$1.99 an issue right now
booo, it should be a crime to price 20 year old issues that high
time to wait for a sale I guess!
>>77581313
I think I saw some floating around already.
>>77581406
oh goddammit it's Bob
>>77581402
He's like Stan Lee levels good at promoting himself, I can't deny that.
>>77581413
if you find them please share
>>77581401
Remender's trying to be more optimistic after getting help for his depression, right? Maybe it'll be reflected by things stay good for them instead of everything going to hell like usual.
>>77581428
Let me say at the top that the Sentry is trash
>>77581421
He apes Stan Lee so hard.
I mean, even even with the big showy quotes on the covers.
>>77581438
Also I just realized that without Madge in the current DCU, we have to have a dysfunctional but adorable Ladytron/Midnighter teamup, right
>>77581313
>Jared FATE is now being Comixology'd.
Well it's about damn time.
>>77581385
>>77581405
Fair point. I can definitely get on board with wanting to kill Norman Osbourne.
>Dark Reign
Didn't that fucker order an attack on Asgard? Idiot.
Uncanny Avengers burnt me out on Remender but this run is great. I haven't read any of his current indie stuff except the first Deadly Class trade that I loved.
>>77581435
Hope it eases out his anger problems, too, which he's acknowledged as a thing.
>>77581461
Legend of Wonder Woman writer is asking for fan art/letters
https://twitter.com/LegendOfWW/status/667511482679103489
https://twitter.com/LegendOfWW/status/667511525649707008
>>77581385
And captain atom
>>77581474
>>77581463
I need to go read that just-out Uncanny Avengers Annual that's actually a Scarlet Witch solo lead-in
>>77581414
DAMMIT, SENTRY. WHY?
>>77581438
>Let me say at the top that the Sentry is trash
He just saved Osbourne's life. He's fucking dead to me at least.
>>77581501
Should I send something about why Steve is coool?
>>77581505
THAT'S the other thing I was gonna run. Yeah!
>>77581501
She's really into this.
DC put her on the main book now
>>77581501
Cool
>>77581521
YES DO IT DO IT
>>77581517
I do laugh at "Bob, throw that man into the sun"
>>77581508
EMERALD WARLOCK!
Also wanna talk about how Robinson's starting Squadron killing Marvel's first Golden Age character.
>>77581546
Sometimes it's nice to read a well-done action comic, damn
>>77581521
Yes
also, Howard Porter is the best
>>77581463
That shit lost all direction that wasn't "fightin' KANG and the red skull i guess" shit pretty fast. Wonderman's pacifism plot was a nonstarter, literally everybody forgot about Alex still being inverted and trapping Jan in the microverse (and that Jan/Alex romance sucked), the unity team made things WORSE for mutant/human relations, and Sunfire was a team member Rick desperately wanted who... got a powerup and that was about it.
>>77581527
He thinks Osborn is the good guy?
>>77581501
>Wonder Woman fans! If you'd like to make fan art or letter about Legend of Wonder Woman, please do so! Something cool might come from it! :)
Yeah, and if I wish upon a star, I might get that army of cute robot women I've always wanted. Sure.
>>77581527
My favorite run is finally available digital.
>>77581541
>Renae de Liz will never be on Wonder Woman
>Tom King will never be on Green Lantern
>Jenditti will write The Flash for 100 issues
why live
>>77581461
I love the classic Punisher look, the t-shirt is fine for MAX
>>77581562
that is one hell of a COUCHSEID
>>77581555
Yeah, I need to go back and dig into Invaders. Bucky's toastergun was just a bit much back then, and I'm not even /k/
>>77581563
Oh, and Rogue was so obviously a total punching bag for whatever Rick hated that week.
>>77581572
Yes
Osborn killed the Skrull Queen in Secret Invasion so everybody is sucking his cock now, and he's manipulating the fuck out of Sentry
>>77581572
Ummm, yeah, at this point in time remember Norman took out the Skrull Queen and was like head of SHIELD or something? He was riding high. And Bob is a naive idiot.
>>77581562
Very Al Bundy. Does that make Granny Goodness Peg?
>>77581623
THAT'S MY FRANK
>>77581594
And Seeley got put on New Suicide Squad right as the current writer got into the groove of things
>>77581631
oh sweet jesus someone ask him that on twitter or I will
because he might draw it and the world needs that
>>77581561
Remender and Opena are a great team
>>77581665
at least Khouri said that Ryan is finishing his run as a complete arc
>>77581667
>oh sweet jesus someone ask him that on twitter or I will
I guess I should
>>77581665
That's a shame, but at least Seeley is good too and they didn't replace Ryan with Lobdell or something
>>77581670
I should read Fear Agent, yes?
>>77581541
>>77581594
You remember how it was claimed by someone(Valentine, I think?)at DC that the people in charge of WW's book have some sort of blackmail material on the higher ups? With the Finches still being on the book and all the shit that happened with the Amazons, I believe it.
>>77581701
>>77581700
I am really excite for Ferreyra's art
>>77581295
....How is this JSA?
>>77581700
What are the odds our new-new writer for Teen Titans will be able to turn it around?
>>77581716
I think you're thinking of the situation with Berganza (who inside baseball says is a serial harasser of women) and the Superman office at DC.
>>77581716
>You remember how it was claimed by someone(Valentine, I think?)
Not Valentine, it was somebody else whose name I should know but am completely blanking on
but yeah supposedly Berganza has dirt on somebody above him so they can't fire him or something like that
>>77581369
I should have wait.
>>77581723
I just tag the storytime that way because that's how people know me and I don't trip, and we're a kind of regular reading group by now
>>77581720
I am too, I really dig his art
I'm gonna miss GBM tho
>>77581735
>What are the odds our new-new writer for Teen Titans will be able to turn it around?
it's Teen Titans, so 0%
Pak can be pretty good and all but I have no hope for TT
>>77581700
>Lobdell on Suicide Squad
That would be too horrible for me to comprehend
>>77581716
>someone(Valentine, I think?)
DeCampi? Shes the one that said Marvel, DC, and Dark Horse, etc have all harassers there
>>77581701
Yes
>>77581735
The fixable problem with TT (that's not nostalgia) is that no one feels like they can just make it a fun book. They should all be strapped down and made to read Gen13 until their eyes bleed.
>>77581775
those converse hi-tops
>>77581723
I'm sure that by the end of the thread someone can Hypercrisis up a connection.
>>77581795
huh, is Fraction Punisher any good?
>>77581775
>no one feels like they can just make it a fun book. They should all be strapped down and made to read Gen13 until their eyes bleed.
and Young Justice!
I don't know why everyone feels the need to make the TT angsty and edgy (and I feel like I'm using that word right) all the time, it's a book about fucking teenage superheroes, just make it fun
>>77581701
It's probably my favorite thing Remender has written, and I've read a lot of him.
>>77581808
I'm gonna save it for later, but there's a long "History of Punisher" feature in the back with lots of panels
not sure if is included: that time the Punisher shot someone for jaywalking
>>77581814
The combination of NTT's most popular plots and Geoff Johns' TT run is likely heavily responsible.
And yet they went out of their way to make Tim as hetero as possible in the reboot, when that was like half the buying base!
>>77581735
>>77581742
>>77581773
Again, blackmail explains so much of the bullshit going on with WW right now.
Also, how sad is it that sexual harassment in the comic book industry isn't even remotely surprising. We all thought we were getting past that neckbeard shit, but nah.
>>77581814
Even the Wolfman/Perez run which is like definitive superhero soap opera still had them hanging out and having fun from time to time.
>>77581814
Well NTT was pretty angsty and edgy, and that sold a lot at the time.
So naturally it'll sell well now!
>>77581824
will check it out, then
He never answered me when I asked him what the Latin motto on the Deadly Class shirts was meant to say :(
>>77581808
Nope. Like 3 decent issues?
Hello, friends, has Mark Millar done any Punisher work? Would most certainly enjoy reading.
>>77581859
dat Black Flag poster
>>77581872
I don't think so.
>>77581858
>Well NTT was pretty angsty and edgy, and that sold a lot at the time.
it was, but compared to what we've been getting the past 20 years the angst and drama in NTT felt way less forced
>>77581855
WW is explainable down to something as simple and blunt as "who's a superstar artist and do we know a woman who writes comics? oh, great, our superstar artist has a wife who writes, perfect, let's do that".
The Superman office, I believe, does not reign over WW, but does over SM/WW.
>>77581874
Also running during Dark Reign was 'Skrull Kill Krew', which is one of the weirder things Marvel has gotten past its internal censors
>>77581858
>edgy
Does edgy even mean anything anymore?
>>77581834
>that time the Punisher shot someone for jaywalking
As someone who doesn't read Punisher, that sounds like a very absurdist interpretation. Frank Castle became the Punisher because his family was killed by gangsters. The idea that all crimes are equal and warranting of a ventilation is, well, fucking stupid and kind of against the point.
>>77581892
Wasn't NTT one of the first Big Two comics where it was more than just nudge-implied that people were having sex?
>>77581921
Nah, lots of 80s DC was doing that. Green Arrow had plenty of it.
>>77581872
Not solo but Ultimate avengers
>>77581892
Morrison and Millar came up with it drunk in a bar iirc
>>77581890
WW is edited by Mike Cotton and Eddie Berganza as group editor.
Yes, Mike Cotton edits Teen Titans, Wonder Woman, AND E2S.
>>77581917
I got it wrong, it was someone littering
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2011/12/20/the-abandoned-an-forsaked-did-punisher-just-shoot-that-litterer/
>>77581892
It's the only superhero team I can think of that a had a racist skinhead on it.
>>77581955
>Cotton AND Berganza
Wow that is some impressive terrible.
>>77581797
It's a parallel universe reflection of Batman and Superman's first meeting in Byrne's Man of Steel.
>>77581938
what's the timeline on NTT vs. Grell Green Arrow, which also had a specific MATURE AUDIENCES tag on it?
Azz Wondy was edited by Conroy and Idelson
>>77581917
People who are overly attached to the no-kill rule for superheroes trot it out anyway.
>>77581890
Nobody actually likes David Finch's art though, right? That has to be ironic. No way people find that shit appealing when every character looks constipated.
As for 'women who write comics', Meredith has next to no experience actually writing comics, and as it turns out, she fucking sucks at writing, period.
Whoever thought any of this was a good idea needs to be fired and punched in the face.
>>77581986
Grell is 1988, NTT is early 80s.
Remember the letter that FabNic wrote into Infinity Inc. after the scene with Jade and Brainy, wherein he took the stand that it's not filth to show it?
>>77581855
Some of the reactions to the whole harassment thing here in /co/ were very... depressing yet unsurprising. Some people do still like DeCampibecause she wrote Archie vs Predator
>>77581986
NTT:1980
GA:1987
Not an insignificant gap.
>>77582032
>Nobody likes David Finch
And nobody liked Michael Turner's art either, I'm sure.
You know how they say you can't account for taste? The core buyers of comics are a great example of that.
>>77582049
>Remember the letter that FabNic wrote into Infinity Inc. after the scene with Jade and Brainy, wherein he took the stand that it's not filth to show it?
>>77582049
>>77582079
thanks!
>>77581921
Yep.
>the simple reason that Dick is 19 years old. I was married at 19. . . . they are both consenting adults, and no matter what—the title says Teen Titans—at 19 years old, those two are legally adult. . . .
>And, that one panel, which I did as tastefully as I could, there was no nudity involved, nothing was shown of the act, it’s just the fact that she was in what was established as being his bedroom, because I’d drawn the bedroom before. It’s the bedroom set I have. And, make no question about it, they were in bed together...
>this has become one of the most controversial panels we’ve ever presented. Many readers wrote in saying “Way to go!” and others said “How could you do that in a book about teenagers?”
>>77582133
The past is a foreign country!
>>77581988
Well in all honesty, they can go fuck themselves.
Scenario: Charles Manson is about to shoot a child in the face. You can stop him, but you have to shoot Charlie in order to do it. Well shit, I guess you better let him put a hole in the kid's head, because it would be immoral otherwise!
>>77582150
dat ass
>>77582175
>>77582133
>>77582150
I think this was one of the panels that did it
From 1984
>>77582150
Y no namefag, KS?
>>77582192
>>77582200
I'm not Kind Storyteller
we just decided to read some Frank
>>77581808
>Frank's an Objectivist
Huh, I never thought of it that way. Now I'm imagining a Punisher/Mr. A team-up.
>>77582223
note the helmet on the left
this will be relevant
>>77582233
Get Dixon on the phone
>>77582251
would Clint approve?
>>77582260
I'm giggling imagining how wildly gay a Dixon Punisher run would be.
>>77582233
Despite looking it up, I still don't quite understand what Objectivism is, and I get the feeling asking will start a fight.
>>77582251
Oh lawdy
>>77582273
Shit, was Clint even alive at this point, I forget? He had to be because there's that panel of him being sexually harassed by Venom Gargan
>>77582299
I wonder what the actual fuck Becky Cloonan Frank is going to be like. I read a bit of Edmondson and yawned out of it.
>>77582316
whose guns are those?
>>77582281
I don't think I get it either.
>>77582281
Part of the basic gist, generalized, is "Anyone who does bad once is bad forever and cannot be saved. Shades of gray do not exist - evil is evil, good is good", and it's filtered through a specific definition of "good" and "evil".
"A = A". No shades of gray, no complexity. Black and white.
Then you start getting into the Rand hole of "not helping anybody but myself is the greatest thing every actually"
>>77582331
>>77582299
That fucking face
>>77582359
>>77582375
>>77582299
I also remember the imminent gangbang panel.
>>77582316
I lost interest when it looked like he was trying to ape Hawkeye with a sassy female side character and a cute pet
>>77582391
the BRAZZERS tag really makes it
>>77582050
/co/ in general has serious issues with harassment. Remember that Skylar Page fiasco?
>>77582391
Oh lord, that art...
>>77582316
Edmondson ends up at a weird but oddly predictable "The American Sniper Ruled!" endpoint.
>>77582421
now this asshole was EVERYWHERE thanks to Bendis
>>77582391
This is the one I was thinking of, thanks GIS
http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvr4amlHKK1qim8z2o1_500.png
>>77582336
Although I remember an issue of Mr. A where he helps a reformed criminal, I guess Ditko realized that he might be too alienating.
>>77582391
>someone made a fic based off thatbueno
>>77582457
>>77582465
Is it weird that the thing I remember the most about Dark Avengers is all the porn people made of it?
>>77582490
Nietzsche is actually great when you realize that a solid half of his writing is grade-A trolling
>>77582500
nah, that's natural
>>77582500
no, that's memorable, when something sparks a ton of porn
>>77582522
>>77582316
Cloonan could surprise us, she's not even remotely bad at writing.
Howard Porter: Re - the whole Darkseid Al Bundy thing
>yes! but who are Bud and Kelly?
>>77582539
Right, it's more a case of "not the first person I'd think of writing Frank", which is more to say my expectations are 'unsure' not 'this gonna suck'
>>77582546
Kalibak may be Bud. Not sure about Kelly.
>>77582546
Kalibak and Grail?
>>77582566
does this underworld Costco also have tons of quality free samples?
>>77582579
>>77582585
I chose Desaad and Mad Harriet
>>77582588
"Angry animal Mcclaw blades"
>>77582546
>>77582579
Kelly is clearly Big Barda, she started out as a Fury
I mean she is running around with a man Darkseid and Granny would disprove of
>>77582638
>>77582251
Those are some videogame-tier popguns there.
I liked frankencastle
I trust Cloonan bc of the Jason comparison and that's my favorite/the best way to write Frank
>>77582654
So did I!
>>77582646
>>77582647
as long as it doesn't look entirely like an M16 fucked a toaster, I'm forgiving of ridiculous guns
>>77582588
Would Dark Costco's free samples be free shots fired? A coke station?
>>77582654
Do you need to spoiler that? I thought it was fairly well-liked.
>>77582654
we're reading it, IIRC, because the issue of tone/genre shift came up broadly
>>77582684
Yes! Sample that coke before you buy.
>>77582654
So did I, it was fun, and much better than "Frank is an agent of Heaven!" and "Frank is a black guy!"
>>77582709
>>77582684
Free shots at the shooting gallery, free pills, and obviously fudge squares.
>>77582733
>>77582748
I should make homemade pecan fudge this holiday season y/y/y
>>77582726
>"Frank is a black guy!"
That's kinda fun if only for the what the fuck factor. My dad's face when I found that issue in a 50 cent box was priceless.
>>77582774
I keep meaning to get the issue with Frank and the jet ski framed and hung on my wall
>>77582774
yyyy
>>77582797
Might I just say that this "Hood" fellow is exceptionally lame. I just cant take this due seriously when he dresses like a bad parody of cosplayers.
Incidentally, how the hell does 4chan's spellcheck not recognize the word 'cosplayers'? We have a fucking cosplay board, and it recognizes 'cosplay'! Fuck plural nouns, I guess.
>>77582811
>>77582821
>>77582774
...When I was little, I thought fudge and toffee were the same thing.
>>77582841
>>77582774
>>77582797
>Shaolin Scientist Squad
The fuck is this shit? First Hood, now these morons? Are all of Frank's enemies in this run going to be evil nerds?
>>77582872
Remender looooves pulp
>>77582820
Well, this page >>77582709 seems to suggest he's just a puppet being used by someone smarter, so I guess you're not supposed to take him seriously.
>>77582883
I mean who among us wouldn't watch SHAOLIN SCIENTIST SQUAD
>>77582883
He's also such a Bronze Age fanboy, Rage of Ultron was clearly written by a man who loves him some Roger Stern era Avengers
>>77582904
>>77582889
Bendis had a huge hard-on for the Hood before this as well, leading to this infamous issue:
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/07/question-about-new-avengers-35/
>>77582883
>Remender looooves pulp
Clearly.
>>77582904
>I mean who among us wouldn't watch SHAOLIN SCIENTIST SQUAD
STEP LIKE THE DRAGON, MOTHERFUCKER!
>>77582850
When I was little, I thought being born on a Leap day meant you literally aged four times slower than everyone else.
>>77582927
>>77582951
>>77582909
I need to read me those Avengers
>>77582940
A most ingenious paradox!
>>77582970
>>77582983
this is, of course, a takeoff on the Punisher's intro panel
>>77583010
>>77583033
>>77583047
jesus, Frank
>>77583054
>>77583010
I feel like Punisher aiming a rocket launcher at a window is a common cover
>>77583066
>>77583079
>>77583070
It's the cover of his first solo
https://img1.etsystatic.com/012/0/6578044/il_570xN.422688615_jxw0.jpg
>>77583100
>>77583109
dangerously furry
>>77583115
>>77583126
Punisher is gay. Why are y'all reading such a faggy character?
>>77583139
so how are you owls tonight?
>>77583150
>>77583141
what board do you think you're on
>>77583141
/co/ is one of the gayest boards anon
>>77583141
Shut your frank, and stop posting Frank's during franktelling time.
>>77583141
It's not gay to admire another mans body
>>77583167
how about Skynyrd as performed by some very odd Finns?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5GRpA5H3CI
>>77583167
Fucking kek, Castle
>>77583150
Great
>>77583141
Are you saying you've got some Frank lewds for us? GIVE US THE GOODS
>>77583141
Why do you think?
>>77583195
>>77583212
>>77583141
Why do you think I'm reading it?
>>77583227
I feel kind of sorry for him
>>77583150
achy and dreading the prospect of a snowstorm tomorrow
>>77583247
this isn't anywhere as gay as handsome Solid Frank, anyway
>>77583227
I hope you're into bears, kid.
>>77583263
>>77583278
>>77581414
I know a lot of people hate Sentry, but I can't help but love him as Asshole Superman. I even like what Remender did by making Sentry a Horseman of Death and Life.
>>77583150
Pretty good. Finally got rid of that piece of junk van that's been sitting in the driveway. City was starting to give us shit for it, but we sold it to some dude tonight. Now there's actual space in the driveway.
>>77583261
Oh, yeah, that. We're going to breach the 40s, so the snow's not going to stay, but sux for where it's not.
>>77583310
We're supposed to get 4-8 inches and it's supposed to start while I'm driving home from work
I'm tired of winter already and it's not even here
>>77583290
OH SHIT, FRANK GOT ALL ARTS AND CRAFTS ON US
>>77583150
My haul from Sephora arrived, dem biannual discounts.
>>77583336
come to australia. we're in the middle of a heat wave,
>>77583339
>>77583339
What the fuck is the point of the arrows?
I bet their tips are skulls too.
>>77583351
OH FUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>77583339
That Punishskull must be his equivalent of Dillon's Frankface.
>>77583366
let's read one more and wrap this arc
>>77583366
Fuck the Hood, this is an interesting villain.
>>77583377
>>77583406
>>77583139
>>77583150
>>77583167
>>77583195
>>77583212
God it's like the goons are the teens in a Slasher flick
>>77583415
mmm, greasy pizza
>>77583430
>>77583437
>>77583366
>resurrected Microchip to force him to help find Frank
Okay, Hood gets a point for creativity. Bringing back someone's sidekick as a tracking hound? Pretty dickish.
>>77583447
the Ant-Man helmet gets a very creative use
>>77581563
Still, the hard sci-fi in it was neat. but even then I'd rather read Black Science for that.
>>77583464
>>77583447
I've had pizza so bad it made me sick, but I don't remember ever puking bullets.
>>77583430
>tfw remembering playing SSX Tricky back in the day
Didn't expect a sudden burst of nostalgia. Also, what a surprisingly decent game that was.
>>77583482
that's a fun gun
>>77581563
>Wonderman's pacifism plot was a nonstarter
Ah, the pacifist superhero. There's a concept nobody ever really managed to figure out. The worst example being Val-Zod.
I mean, it's one thing for capes to advocate peaceful solutions(Wondy for example), but can superheroes really be outright against violence?
>>77583555
>>77583498
I wonder if SSX is dead? Arcade style sports game in general seem to be
>>77583498
>all those kids who heard Run-DMC for the first time playing SSX Tricky
>>77583575
>>77583555
>Frank now has the Noisy Cricket from Men in Black
... This will end well.
>>77583585
I never played SSX Tricky but my college dorm played a fucking lot of Tony Hawk for the PS2
