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Adventure Time: Stakes Miniseries DAY 3 - talkback thread
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4 episodes left! With part 3 and 4 being pretty decent (the episode 4 song was shitty though) we have a good adventure going on, and the second best vampire will be featured tonight! C'mon, grab your friends and enjoy the fifth and sixth part of this minseries!
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Best character reporting in
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Reminder to put spoilers of episodes yet to air in spoiler tags.
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I really like the old style vamps. Episode 5 is my favourite after 7
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>>77556094
there aren't any more songs as terrible as episode 4's song, right? i can't remember the last time i felt so awkward watching something with another person in the room
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>>77556234
Nah, that weird song is the only bad one. I'd probably drop AT if there was another song of this mediocrity, as it really killed my Stakes boner for a moment.
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>>77556283
whew, ok, thanks.
>it really killed my Stakes boner for a moment.
yeah that shit totally took me out of the moment, i couldn't focus on the flashback because the song was so bad. if they really had to make that flashback a song they should have just gotten rebecca to write it, lol.
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>>77556234
>>77556283
>>77556310
>yfw most people on tumblr actually praised the song for being nonconfirmist and experimental
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Canada here.

Why the fuck does it say tiny toons is on when adventure time should be on my guide?
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>>77556348
They're full of shit. The "nonconfirmist and experimental" stuff Marcy had in Marceline's Closet was still good, despite being weird as fuck.
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>>77556414
I don't know, most European CN local versions also tend to write huge bullshit on the guide.
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Where's that guy that posts the title cards with the info and posts the rest of the week's info?
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>>77556472
I think he's dead. She should have posted like twenty minutes ago
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>>77556310
I feel like they must have made the song terrible on purpose for some reason, it would be hard to write lyrics that cringeworthy by accident.
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>>77556563
the lyrics aren't even the worst part imo, even the melody sounds awful
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>>77556128
KOO > PB
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>>77556687
>KOO > PB
Yea, but crownless badass Bonnie > everyone
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>>77556563
>>77556598
That ep was co-boarded by Somvilay Xayaphone, who is a generally mediocre human being. I'm willing to bet he wrote it.
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>>77556760
No, those were leaked.
Unless you're purposely spoiling.
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Stakes is best AT in a while
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>>77556414
Also canadian here -

This post made me check my tv and HOLY CRAP WHEN DID CN GET THERE I'VE ALWAYS WANTED CN WHEN THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK
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>>77556760
fuck off nigger, the big majority has already seen it anyway. Go on /r/AdventureTime if you want to spoil it.
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>>77556760
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>>77556725
Bonnie's nose and eyes look really weird
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And it begins.
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I feel like most of Bonnie's inventions are actually pretty useless.
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If she killed all the vamps,then what was ash?
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>this dead of a thread
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A FUCKING KOALA
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>>77557024
He was just a random wizard.
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>>77557024
Ash was a wizard, most wizards are immortal and nuts in AT.
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>>77557043
Too bad Flame King wasn't there to see
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>>77557025
that's why I hate leaks desu
yesterday's thread was a success though.
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>>77557043
Don't let koala fool you with cute. They will fuck you up.
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>>77557025
>iggy pop is not a soda
MY FUCKING SIDES
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I really like Hierophant's Stalin/Slav looking mustache
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>>77556853
Welcome to the Twilight Zone anon.
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>>77557043
EUCALYPTUS
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Man, PepButt's a great character when they just let him do his thing.
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>Yall hunting Wabbits?
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>>77557114
EU CA LYP TUUUUUUS
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>>77557079
I live in Australia m8. Those things are fucking nuts if you approach them without their agreement.
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>>77557109
He's way too old fashion.
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i want to fugg Finn
pls kill me
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What does HTH mean? Never seen that.
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>Finn just pokes his eye
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>>77557180
Hope that helps or happy to help
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I like this guy. He has style and class like old style vampires.
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>Here's the dope
he looks like a 17th century vampire but acts like a 1980s teen. I guess the meaning of oldschool is really stretchable in AT
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>>77557160
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captions were wrongly attributed to Pincess Butterscotch instead of the flying girl.
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>>77557180
"Hope That Helps" I guess
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>You will never drink Finn's boy blood.
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>>77557233
>>77557266
thanks

>that fucking Bonnie looking at KOO
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Anyone got DLS of one and two?
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What's up with Marceline's hair in her Simon/Betty dream? She looks like a queer.
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>>77557111
Holy crap I can't believe I just watched a new episode of Adventure Time on my tv
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>>77557333
Dude I think she is a queer.
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Damn,I missed how she killed him. What happened?
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>>77557333
Going through a phase.
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>>77557321
https://mega.nz/#!K5BnxIIK!Qk3p33st0RBcXoBBPjm7sIW_tbuaUDpU-JHHo_v2C2Y
https://mega.nz/#!j95lFSKC!T_MOwuEZKzu8Kn8kwWEvMDaPt5YGlg97TX9o604C0FA
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GOD DANGIT WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THAT?! THAT KILL SUCKED. I was actually hoping they'd team up. I really liked Slavophant
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>>77557131
Uhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh
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There is one way to preserve my people. Marceline? May I come in?
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>>77557356
Bonnie literally called her best friend like a minute ago.
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>>77557244
He sounded like an old guy trying to talk to a teenager there
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>>77557357
Pushed into the Jake house. Cause he wasn't invited, he combusted.
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>>77557357
he entered jake uninvited
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Whats this I hear about a lady hypnotizing Marceline?
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MONARCHIES
ARE NOT
DEMOCRACIES
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>>77557404
This sounds very wrong when you spell it out in text.
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>>77557244
>he's a dink
>dingus
>googoo-mama-meter
>is totally babies
I wonder if it's lazy writing or a stylistic mandate at this point
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>>77557392
That gif pretty much describes my thoughts on the matter.
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>>77557392
>Finn and Marcy hang out because they both know what it feels like to be friend-zoned by PB.
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>>77557404
>>77557396
Brutal.
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the entering Jack uninvited is clearly a statement about rape and how men fail to get affirmative consent for sex.
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Damn Finn seducing the vampire was pretty hot
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>>77557025
Thank god I didn't get teh spoilers yet All I heard is that Marcy has a dream of growing old with PB and that "totally confirmed" the ship
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>>77556094
Prepare for spoilers it sucked
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>>77557371
thanks friend
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It's time.
Also, PB caressing Marcie's dying body.
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>>77557445
I've been feeling this for years now. It's like PB really isn't interested at all in any relationship and Marcy got mad at her during What Was Missing for this. Now with Stakes it really looks like I was actually right.
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>>77557392
Dude. Just you wait. The last 3 eps of Stakes are the gayest episodes in the entire series.
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>>77557498
JAKE! YOU GOTTA FUCK THE HEAD-VAGINA MAN!
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>>77557502
If you want the ship to happen so much, then yeah. I haven't seen much of that gayness though.
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>she had a stake up inside of her

Lewd.
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>>77557470
It's the best Adventure Time has been in a while.
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>>77557451

The vampire represents conservative, strong values and the explosion is a metaphor of the way how sex is used against modern men to weaken them.
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>>77557501
It is unlikely that a wad of gum wit ha human shape, has any desire for physical intimacy. She probably doesn't even have genitalia.
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>>77557333
>>77557356
I don't know. I like it but I really do like the dyke/tomboy look.
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Hate the be that guy, but The Moon a cute.
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>>77557547
Set the bar pretty low huh?
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>that's her voice
what the fucking hell
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>finn stabbing her for hours on end
kek
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>>77557502
>That PB gently stroking Marcy's arm
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>>77557613
Is it rape if she would have enjoyed it?
Oh jeeze, that voice.
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>>77557613
You know teenage boys.
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>>77557535
>maybe its...love?
>now we can hang out together forever!
>followed by immediate smile and blush
>difficult to justify kiss in fever dream
>you think I'm nice!? -blush-
>so much damn blushing

I mean yeah, I like the ship, but I'm not irrational about it. And I seriously think that it's moved out of the realm of subtext after this miniseries
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time for nightmares
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DRACULA YOU GOTTA SUCK OUT THE POISON
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>>77557613
Finn just couldn't find the right place to stick it.
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>>77557718
Back of the knee, maybe?
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>IN
>YOUR
>FACE

I fucking love Peppermint Butler
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>>77557576
I guess. This arc has decent lore, interesting enemies, goofing around and isn't too 2deep. Really, what's not to like? Finn isn't solving everything by stabbing it like usual? Hell, even Peppermint Butler is getting to do something with his screen time.
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Banana guard playing Wii Fit U
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Jesus Christ, hard core.
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>>77557732
kek.
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OH SHIT
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>>77557708
heh
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Gay!
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>PB locking herself in a bed with Marcy's body

bubbline confirmed
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Download where?
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Bubbline confirmed?
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>Did you just yell pigs at the lock until it opened.
RATE THE EPISODES
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>>77557797
What's wrong with gay, fag?
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That was a little...dissapointingly easy. What was the moon's power? I still don't understand how she works.
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>A Teen Titans Go Black Friday episode.

I'll take things I never knew I wanted for 100.
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>>77557826
Nope. Just Marcy having visions of being cared for when she is elderly and on the verge of death. A bit morbid for Pep But to dig the grave in advance.
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>>77557857
Nothing. I just wasn't expecting it.
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>>77557676
>maybe its...love?
That was obviously a joke and she was referring to VK, not Bonnie.

>now we can hang out together forever!
sounded more like teenage girls being happy about BFF staying together

>followed by immediate smile and blush
again, teenage girls. I really feel like /co/ hasn't seen any girls in years

>difficult to justify kiss in fever dream
What? That's literally the easiest to dismiss, especially if there's a big friendship between a younger and an older person almost dying.

>you think I'm nice!? -blush-
I'll give you that, although I still have no idea why people use blushing as an argument

>so much damn blushing
again, see above. The staff also published a comic some days ago with Pepbubs blushing after Bonnie complimenting him. Does that mean Bubblemint confirmed?
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>>77557751
I don't know man, lore wise we didn't really get much outside of marcy's powers and vampirism. Wasn't all too funny either and had some god awful songs. Then there's the "muh status quo", I actually agree to that. Everything is pretty much the same. This series as a whole didn't have much to offer.
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>>77557797
>>77557826
PB was just acting as a caretaker, or a nurse.
>>77557865
Continuous healing. Can't be killed so Marceline had to suck her soul to beat her.
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Fuck, that was some creepy shit, yo.
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>>77556853
CN's been there since 2012.
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>>77557865
infinite healing to the point where shes borderline immortal
I guess being staked is a short stun or whatever, just enough to get sucked out
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>>77557865
Regeneration. Her weakness was her back because you know, dark side of the moon.
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>>77557613
>>77557671
>>77557718
Stop giving me ideas, anon.
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>>77557873

Hey man you have to be ready because she looks like she couldve dropped at any second
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>>77557894
>she was referring to VK, not Bonnie.
She was referring to her stomach being empty and having hunger pangs.
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>>77557846
8/10, I'd give it a 9 if there wasn't that growing old scene those Bubbline fags want to use as an argument. Fucking people without any real friends on here
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>>77557160
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This shoe has gone downhill and then off a cliff and then into a big hole that goes on forever.

I DON"T FUCKING CARE ABOUT NOT PHIL AND JACK!! GO BACK TO HASING ADVANTURES!!!
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>>77557909
How come the sun doesn't continously hurt her when it hurts Marcy even after she got the Moon's abilities?
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>>77557909
Then what did she mean about traveling under the moon? What about the moon pearls? Why couldn't Finn and Jake stand up? How did she unlock the door. Continuous healing explains none of that! Was it explained further in the comics or something?
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>>77557865
They were all killed pretty dissapointingly easy desu
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>>77557846
8/10. At least no bad songs like last episode had.
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>>77557865
Just a guess but...
Moon in the sky = actual body
Moon on the ground = soul body

Her "power" was super healing, but the sky Moon seemed to do something too...
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>PB jut fucking kicks down KOO
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>>77557958
We need a new clean shoe
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MONARCHIES ARE NOT DEMOCRACIES
MONARCHIES ARE NOT DEMOCRACIES
MONARCHIES ARE NOT DEMOCRACIES
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Those were both pretty good, I feel the first better than the second.
Both the vamps got killed in kind of cheap ways, but the Heirophant's at least had a thematic fit to it, I just wish it was more than him getting nudged slightly and oh geez he's dead.
The Moon getting killed was lame as fuck, she had her back turned and that was it? Why wasn't Pep Butt affected? Had nothing to do with her powers either.

I feel both episodes had some top Finn and Jake banter, so that's nice. They are a little stupider than usual but eh.

Both solid, 7/10 each. I really like Luke and Emily as a team.
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>>77557969
>>77557965
Either this is retcon or plot holes.

Or Marcelines human side made her much more sensitive stimulus which is why the sun hurts her even if she got healing.
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>>77557895
Well, you do have a point about the songs. Really, I'm just sort of glad we aren't dealing with a terrible lore based plot and instead given one that's sort of alright. I did like some of the vampires and finding out about that animal hat thing.
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>>77557865
She squeezes moon-pearls out of her clam

Think about it:
Moon = archaic term for month
Women get their periods once a month
She had a ridiculously high healing factor but being a vampire her body doesn't have any blood to shed. She still has to shed the eggs though but since her ovaries are cursed with super healing magic they turn the unfertilized eggs into pearls in an attempt to fix them. The Moon's body can't discard bio-matter, so the eggs are the crystallized inorganic materials she can't process.
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>>77558062
They are when your people stop listening to you. Getting your ass overthrown is a long and proud monarchical tradition Bonnie, be glad they didn't chop your goddamn head off.
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>>77557969
Thought you meant what power did Marceline get from her.
Only assumptions, but:
> traveling under the moon?
She was planning on going to Marceline anyway, so I guess that's what she meant by "being lead to her light"
>What about the moon pearls?
The "moon pearls", I think, are just excess skin or just something meant to be weird cause she's weird
>Why couldn't Finn and Jake stand up?
Finn and Jake couldn't stand up because they were petrified. I guess it's kind of like status effect or a weaker hypnosis.
>How did she unlock the door.
Magic and/or comedic effect.
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>>77557965
She had vampire healing powers, which is why marceline got better when she consumed her essence
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>>77557909
It looked like the moon itself was giving her all her strength, both the healing and all the force knockdowns and shit. For some reason pig was involved too. It looked like she could do anything if she was under the moon and yelled pig a lot, she should have been killed by getting stuffed in darkness first, that would have fit more.
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>>77557846
>Episode 1 & 2:
Set-up for Marcy's decision to give up her powers felt a bit sloppy, but going into her backstory with the human colonies was good. Did a good job setting up the vampires coming back and the story in general.
8/10

>Episode 3 & 4:
Felt like filler. The Empress and the other guy added nothing. The confrontation with Marcy and Ice King explained what easily could have been inferred from the first two episodes of Stakes and even the original Ice King/Marcy episode.
6/10

>Episode 5 & 6:
The Moon and The Heirophant were a much more interesting antagonists. Also helped that the episodes involved PB, Finn, and Jake much more actively into the plot. More gay in Episode 6 was good.
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I just today watched all the episodes so far, and this doesn't apply to all of them, but what's with all the fucking anime teleporting?
Reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZZcUdIdAt0
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>>77558149
Can't argue with that, guess it wasn't all bad.
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>>77558101
>Both the vamps got killed in kind of cheap ways, but the Heirophant's at least had a thematic fit to it, I just wish it was more than him getting nudged slightly and oh geez he's dead.
Whole post is good, but this is the most important sentence. I feel really sad about how casually they get killed. But then again, it would be difficult to do it otherwise while also putting in humour, teasing and adventure in under 11 minutes.
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>The Moon: Beau Billingslea
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>>77558161
Oh nvm reread your question
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>>77558174
Yeah, that makes sense.
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>>77557865
healing factor
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>>77558197
its not teleportation, marcie is just turning invisible.
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>>77558156
>be glad they didn't chop your goddamn head off.
>candy people
>doing anything at all
Yeah okay you can see them using fucking guns and metal chains (based Starchy) in the final episode, but they're too stupid to actually put Bonnie head on a guillotine.
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Jake turning into a house was awesome and I'm glad Jake contributed that.
I really liked that part where Finn pressed his head against the wall.
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I think the arc was good because it did the typical LOL LORE thing but it actually had an arc to it and weight behind it, and it closed it up relatively cleanly.
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>>77558274
I also meant the vampire king.
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>>77558150
The eggs make more sense when you explain it like that. Still disappointing they haven't said where the vampires have come from.
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>>77558161
No he's asking why, when marceline was a vampire, she couldn't go out in the sun, if she has the healing factor of a vampire that CAN go out in the sun.
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Does anyone think the writers are planing to make a show about Marceline? I just got a feeling this whole series is a test. Otherwise the Mini series should of been about Finn.
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BUT WHERE DID THE VAMPIRES COME FROM?

More AT plotholes?
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>>77558101
Yeah, the fights were way too short and the vamps felt like pussies.

But, the dialogue between the King and Marceline was pretty great at the end. Wasn't thrilled about the ending we got, either. Pretty good overall though.
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I feel like these episodes all kind of get finished too cleanly, it really feels like they're just killing the vamps off anyway they can because "Oh shit we're at ten minutes into the run-time and this character needs to die now, get rid of em somehow."
This was by far most apparent with the moon.
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>>77558340
You'd think an arc centering around the vampires would reveal that
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Hasn't Marceline been out in the sun bunches of times though?
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Oh fuck I just remembered to tell you guys Mard wasn't home to record the episodes.....

eh...should've mentioned that earlier huh?
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>>77556094
They sure made the greatest hero of Ooo mighty useless despite putting up a good fight against full power Marcy at age 12.
>he's a straight aryan cis male
Oh yeah, that's right.
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>>77558328
The World! Toki wo Tamare
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>>77557969
>How did she unlock the door.
PIGS PIGS PIGS PIGS PIGS
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>>77558407
She's always conveniently had an umbrella.
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>>77557894
>oh look, here's two characters that half our fan base wants to be gay for each other. I know! let's show them blushing and being cute and leave lots of room for the interpretation that they're in love and might have a future domestic life together!

The only reason they would include stuff like this, that's so open to a specific, popular interpretation, would be in reference to that interpretation. If they didn't want people getting excited about it they wouldn't have left any room at all.

And i highly doubt that they think they could get away with the queerbait and switch. That's shit had ruined similar shows in the past.
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>>77558407
name one time outside the Stakes miniseries where she obviously isn't a vampire
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>>77558407
It either burned her or she was in the shade, she never goes out in broad daylight without an umbrella
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>>77558387
Marceline's vampire goop. Pepbutt threw it out and it manifested into a monsterous goop. When the goop became strong enough it split, recreating the other vampires.
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>>77558438
DIO WHEN?

Marceline Bizarre Adveture when?
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>>77558405
>Thinking
>Adventure Time
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>>77558413
If he kills everything then Marcy doesn't get the honor of taking their souls (even though all she did was sleep this episode was a heroine).

And dude, all 12 year old Finn did was punch that bitch once. If Marcy didn't think it was funny he would have died. He got balls but that's not enough to kill a bunch of super vamps.
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Have the mega links for HD episodes of today (ep 5/6) come in yet?
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>>77558407
Sunblock, "FPS 10 million".
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>>77558468
Anon, no I mean where did they really come from.

How did they existed in the first place?
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>>77558387
>>77558340
The same places vampires usually come from? How often do works use vampires and actually go back and explain the origins of vampires first?
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>>77558438
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>>77558484
See >>77558410

RIP HQ episodes until tomorrow
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>>77558459
>name one time outside the Stakes miniseries where she obviously isn't a vampire
She's even above some of the cloud cover in gif related.
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>>77558484
Madridista will post them in the thread if he gets to it.
>>77558410
Oh, never mind.
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>>77558506
I don't think there's a clear answer. Shit got real after the mushroom war.
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>The Moon can survive being out in the sun due to her regenerative powers.
>Marceline absorbs those powers.
>She still can't handle sunlight.
By the way, the ending to this was lackluster at best.
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>>77558498
I hope they don't have that be a serious way to protect vampires from sunlight, because then why the fuck would Marceline not just have a million bottles of it and wear it all the time? Sunlight would never be a threat to her ever, so she was bring dumb and risking her life every time she wore those fancy hats and umbrellas.

I can buy that it works for like, 2 seconds then gets burnt off though, that would make sense with Marcy trying to get her umbrella.
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>>77558509
Most of them?
Anne Rice had her vampires go back to Egypt. That Vampire RPG had it begin with Cain. Dracula's, the original vampire, origin was never confirmed (it was kind of besides the point) but it was probably some kind of deal with the Devil or even was a demon himself.
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>>77557501
this is why I ship Finn and Marceline. They both fell in love with PBs maternal instincts because they both lost their mother. They weren't in love with the real her because of they were they'd let her just watch over her kingdom. They basically parallel each other every way. They ought to complete their journey by loving someone for who they are. This would be the thematically sound conclusion, but this is post Ward/Sugar AT.
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>>77558560
The whole thing looks extremely cloudy, with clouds under and over her.
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Did anyone feel that this series was done way too fast?

It's like the villians are treated like cannon fodder. Some character development is pretty good, but its not giving the audience time to, hard to describe what I'm getting at.
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>>77558628
It was a whole thing for that Princess Day episode.
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Stupid Sexy Finn. I want him to suck my cock after that, then fuck in the ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEHkogH0gPc
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>>77558658
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>>77558609
It seems like she gains their power, but not the full extent of their powers. Like a whole "Jack Of All Tades" thing
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>>77558707
I forgot a throw away line about sunblock
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>>77558658
People will tell you sunscreen but I think that's really dumb, so I attributed that to the sun being under the horizon. Only direct sunlight fries vamps in AT.

>>77558691
Only in the title card.
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>>77558628
I honestly believe PB made it for her recently. Since they are closer and PB is the super genius.
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>>77558734
She also had it in the episode.
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>>77558658
You have a point there, although the sun is already gone. It's a shit episode though, they use fucking CDs instead of tapes. It feels like nothing of the universe has been taken into account at all.
Also probably sunblock FPS 10 million
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>>77558729
But there's no limit on her invisibility, flying, and transformation abilities
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>>77558737
That would be stupid as hell but honestly could make sense.
They've gotten bored out of designing fancy dresses to protect her from the sunlight so I can see them going "yeah fuck it super magic technologic sun block where's my fucking check Muto" and shit.
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>>77558731
It was visually in the promotional material, not in the premiered episode according to the wiki.
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>>77558658
Now here comes the fags trying to saveface.
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>>77558771
I don't know what they could use as a limit for basic powers like invisibility or flying. The transformation thing on the other hand seems so complex we probably won't ever know the real extent of it.
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I liked Pep Butt's line about magic, pretty nice reference to Wizard's Only Fools.
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>>77558702
There would be no ass left when I get done with his buns. Just bone
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>>77558729
But, it looks like she has pretty much full control on all the other powers. Not only that, she was able to cure herself of the poison with no problem so why is the sun any different. I don't know, I like Marceline centered episodes, but this just didn't feel like something really noteworthy.
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Isn't the last guy the King 'Strength' ?
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>>77558810
Even if they are basic abilities, having a limit should still be there. I'm just going to leave this as a plothole
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>>77558478
He beat The Lich. When I saw his punch do nothing to the shape-shifter I got seriously pissed. They fucked with his strength, admit it.
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I wonder who has the higher skill ceiling between the Moon and Heirophant. It looks like Heirophant can just turn into whatever the fuck he wants as long as it has animal parts but is bogged down by old fashioned vampire rules, while the Moon might be able to do literally anything if the moon is over her and she shout pig enough times. She didn't really have a weakness besides the generic stake and soul suck right?
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>>77558702
>>77558825
Jake already got in on that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlhpTi1h35g
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cool eps. i heard the finale was disappointing but it wasn't HORRIBLY disappointing, right? i know that everything goes back to the status quo but i'm hoping they're at least good episodes on their own.
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‾\_("3)_/‾
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>>77558875
He ripped an old skelly's head apart while infused with a righteous burst of willpower, he's not nearly as motivated in Stakes.

The actual answer is that he has generally been weakened to make writing more convenient but I think there's enough kind of ancillary details around so that it's 'technically' not bullshit but still bullshit.
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>>77558887
I thought the Moon cannot die from a stake, just technically be paralysed and move again. Meaning she would have to be near the surface of the sun to die.
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>>77558939
It wasn't disappointing, just kinda underwhelming after the previous literal 10/10episode.
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>>77558771
But she didn't get the hypnotize ability from the empress
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>>77558962
Not anon but...didn't he had a fucking grass sword?

I thought it fused with his arm. What happened to that?
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>>77558887
I feel like it's a thing where Heirophant has a big initial advantage but if the Moon lasts until night time and gets to yell pig I think she's invincible.

Isn't the Moon like, unbeatable unless you such out her soul? The episode made it seem that way, so unless you can do that she literally can't die I guess.
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>>77558815
What I really miss is the mad scientist angle. For a moment there I thought they were going to give it to Peppermint with his poison lab, but I was pleasantly surprised that Peppermint was into magic and not scient
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>>77558962
Yeah, but I'd like to see him help his friend out being Billy-tier at this point in the series.
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>>77558685
>It's like the villians are treated like cannon fodder.
Seems to be the general consensus.

In my opinion, it would've been cool to have the Vampire King bum around in Marceline's house or the treehouse for a season or two.
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>>77558939
No, the finale was actually pretty good. cool fight scene at the end, cool scene with Marceline confronting the Vampire King, VK being a pretty cool guy.
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>>77558989

She did. We don't see her use it during Stakes, but I seem to recall Marceline had previously used hypnotism in her early apperances.
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>>77559023
He's shown before that he's into dark magical shit. Hell he even knows death. I'm not too surprised.
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>>77559008
It only comes out when his Hero Powers™ are at their highest level so he can unlock his 9th chakra and defeat the demons

In reality the writers are way too lazy to make it work for him all the time so it only shows up when there's no other way for Finn to beat something. They don't even draw it on his hand man.
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>>77558989
Oh, I think we'll soon find an answer to that in the eight season finale.[finale]
>>77559008
Oh, I think we'll soon find an answer to that
in the ninth season finale.
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>>77559070
This.
That was really one of the least surprising things in the episode.
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>>77559096
>>77559082
I fucking hate that shit man. Really. If they took off 4 episodes off the season to make a better plot i'd be for it. The Orgalorg fight and Martin really was a shoddy attempt to improve Finn
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>>77559008
Actually it appears during one of the following Stakes episodes. Pretty funny scene.
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>>77559070
Oh right, he's tried to dark rituals before.
Completly forgot about that
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>>77559068
When? All I remember is her getting people to do her bidding is by threatening to kill them.
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>>77558685
Maybe they could have trimmed down the villains by two people or something and dedicated more time to their fights. Have episodes where they get defeated but not killed, come back with other vampires, hell, fight each other maybe? Could have added a lot to them as characters.
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>>77559169
>tried
he fucking invoked a demon's soul by using Cinnamon Bun's body as a link between him and the underworld.
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>>77559082
>They nerf Finn in order to improve Marceline.

MIGHT AS WELL CALL THE SHOW ADVENTURE TIME : STAKES and make a new show called Ultimate Adventure Time : The Mushroom War with Finn God of Heroes.
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>>77559151
EVERYTHING they do to the poor kid is a shitty attempt at improving him.
When they're not having him destroy his relationships for no reason he's meeting his dad which ends up being entirely pointless and then he loses an arm but it comes back and then he's a super cool comet but oh wait it doesn't amount to anything either.

All they have succeeded in doing with Finn is making him a more passive, boring to watch character. Woo development right.
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>>77559151
Well, what did you want, a show that focuses on times of adventure instead of half dug deep plots? It's called Adventure Time for a reason man.
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>>77558539
>that pic
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>>77559265
While Marceline is getting all the cool shit. I swear I think they are making a spinoff for her and PB and this whole series was a test, and with all the rating results its succeeding.
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>>77559265
This
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>>77558939
Marceline has a retarded moment that kinda pissed me off
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>>77559267
Yes, but they're the ones who created and squandered the plots in the first place. Which is why I said take 4 episodes off to get the staff to regroup and construct better episodes.
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>>77559265
Do you think they should do an arc with him just by himself? Maybe he could try visiting another continent. That way, the writers could at least devote all their attention to him and not be forced to write for other characters. I am so fucking bored of the Candy Kingdom.
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part 5 and 6 where
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>>77559390
But, it's easier for them to dangle tiny bits of plot points, because that way they don't really have to devote all their focus into crafting something really game changing. Also, it makes the general fandom ponder what those points are going to lead to thereby maintaining an interest in the show. Personally, I'm fucking tired of it but I keep sticking around just to see if it can come back to some sense of its former glory.
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>>77559265
>Father reveals nothing
>Loses an arm a couple of times
>Implied Finn was being corrupted by Lich when randomly fucking with FP but nothing happened instead
>Finn is only a little more mature than from his first season
>On-and-off relationships with PB, FP, and Marcy ending with no relationships. This is the only change that sticks

God, the last couple of seasons have really been shit haven't they?
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>>77559480
not without sugar it wont
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