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Why didn't anyone ever tell me how good this movie is?! It's like poetry. Not a kids film in the least. Heck, most adults are probably too dumb to understand the story its broader mythological context.
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>>77541155
This part really got to me.
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>>77541155
Holy crap anon, its been over a decade since I thought of this movie...
Thanks for reminding me of something epic. Way overdue for a re-watch.
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>>77541188
That was most emotional scene in the movie for me. So powerful and meaningful.
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>>77541188
That scene is so sweet and heartbreaking. Molly sees herself as a worthless, unattractive hag. She is ashamed of who she has become. ;_;

"Where were you when I was young and new? How dare you come to me now, when I am this?"

Remember that the unicorn is a symbol of female youth and virginity.
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Fun fact: the animation studio that made this went on become Studio Ghibli
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King Haggard's design holy shit
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>>77541380
That dude fucking looks like Christopher Lee's voice.
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>>77541380
Hey, it's not like he went around calling himself King Youthfulvigor.
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>>77541155
I want to fuck that unicorn.
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>>77541515
Get in line buddy.
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Everybody says it's a good movie. It just had the misfortune to come out in 1982 along with The Secret of NIMH, Tron, Blade Runner, Star Trek II, The Dark Crystal, and the record holder for highest-grossing movie for the next 10 years, E.T.
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>>77541483
That's...huh. That's somehow really fucking descriptive.
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>>77541188
>>77541332
Too many feels. And she forgives her, just like that and decides to help. Truly Molly is best.
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>>77541155
>>77541188
My childhood...
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>>77541155
It's weird yet fascinating.

Unicorns are fucking jerks, I'm glad Gravity Falls' version had this personality too.
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>>77541155
This movie shows that unicorns are entitled assholes.
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Don't read the book unelss you wanna get depressed and weirded out by some oddball humour.

Explains the wizard better. I didn't know he was cursed with immortality until he stopped being a fuckup.
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>>77541515

Wait 'til you see it turn into a woman.
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>>77541155
Holy shit, my mates and I found this on dvd at a closing down video store and watched it last week.
We've been cracking jokes about this movie since.

That theme song is so annoyingly catchy.
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>>77541155
It would work really well as a single season animated series, with expanded plot and character backstories, possibly closer to the book.

The wizard, Schmendrick, would have a bigger role too. Best character.
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>>77541380

>This was Christopher Lee's favorite book.
>He wished to play King Haggard again in a live-action adaptation.
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Childhood nightmare fuel, almost as bad as the red bull.

UNICORN! UUUUNNIIIICOOOORRRNNN!
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>>77541155
>Not a kids film in the least. Heck, most adults are probably too dumb to understand the story

Really though, do you actually wear a fedora every day? Do you publicly admit to watching /mlp/?
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>>77543871
>Don't read anything by Beagle unless you wanna get depressed and weirded out by some oddball humour and cry as a dude is trying to eat his dead giant buddy.
>also brown traps and zombie sweethearts and historians in happy relationships with horrifying elder gods who like dogs

Basically.
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>>77541188
and it's been censored ever since it came out on dvd, entirely ruining it.
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>>77544100

Did they censor the rapist tree?
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>>77541155
>most adults are probably too dumb
You know that sounds pretentious as fuck, right?
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>>77543998
Came here to post this. Not the nightmare fuel part, but

UUUUUNICOOORN!
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WHEN THE LAST EAGLE FLIES
OVER THE LAST CRUMBLING MOUNTAIN
Ninja Sex Party actually did this song justice
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So, uh, what was the point of this scene?
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>>77546379
Is it a dick?
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> Have an ex that I thought I was going to marry
> She completely broke my heart
> This was her favorite movie
> Always wanted to watch it with her, but never got the chance

If I watch this movie now without her, does it involve themes that are going to break my heart all over again
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>>77541155
yup, one of the best movies I've ever seen.
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>>77543912
I prefer the horse. ^:)
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>>77546412
It's a tree with tits.
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I love this movie. The character designs are weird with their gigantic noses but hey.
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>>77541155
Broader Mythological context?
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>>77546561
I guess be glad you didn't end up watching it with her because that would be sure to ruin it.
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>>77547075
>hey cat, wanna eat?
>YES!
Bam! Proven wrong in 3 seconds.
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>>77541155
It is a great movie but I haven't seen it in over 10 years. Gonna have to fix that. I have read the book twice in the intervening time, and it's also a good read. If I remember last, it hit me good with the feels, delicately but properly.

>>77543871
I dunno. I think the book is good and not any more depressing than the film, and I don't find the film depressing either.

>>77541539
It has aged better than E.T. at least. I still don't like that movie.
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>Death takes what man would keep and leaves what man would lose.
>Blow, wind and crack your cheeks!
>I warm my hands before the fire of life...
>...And get four-way relief.
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>>77544100
It's not censored or edited on Netflix.
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>>77546213
Fucks me up every time.

I can't handle themes of impermanence.
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>>77541155
Christopher Lee actually agreed to voice King Haggard only if they insert certain lines of dialog from the book into the animated movie.
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>>77541155
>Not a kids film in the least.
For fuck's sake

Just because a movie is enjoyable for adults or has stuff that will go over kids' heads doesn't mean it's not a children's movie.
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>>77546379
I got a boner from this scene when I was younger. Please tell me I'm not the only one.
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>>77541155
>It's like poetry
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>>77543978
Man.... why couldnt it have been a thing? It would of been beautiful. So beautiful.
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>>77553964

> tfw the fact that the Last Unicorn is doomed to be forgotten and slowly fade away fits perfectly with the themes presented in the film
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>>77554838
Damn you..... damn this world!
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>>77546379
Shmendrick is really bad at magic, but also really good at it.
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>>77541188
I thought it made her come off as whiny
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>>77553964

The movie has been in development hell for years.
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>>77541346
It didn't really become Ghibli, per say. It's true however that Miyazaki did take a good quarter of Topcraft's staff with him for Studio Ghibli, but even then Topcraft itself still remained until at least 1985 when the remaining people that didn't go to work at Ghibli went to Pacific Animation Corp. to work on Thundercats. and whatever else for RB.
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>>77544100
The newest release, and the version on Netflix, is fully restored--no censored content.

>>77553964
There's a whooole bunch of legal BS tying up the live action film rights. I think that Beagle finally got them back a few years ago but with that Conlan guy involved, god only knows what'll happen. last I heard they're working on a stage adaptation.
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If you like the movie, read the book. The movie adaption was written by the author of the book, but it goes more into its mythology/fantasy and man, etc. It goes more into Lir's backstory, too, and has a lot more character moments between Schmendrick/Molly/Amalthea.

It even has an in canon reason for the singing in the movie.
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>>77543912
Meh....she was hotter as a unicorn.
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>>77543978
Sad.
The movie was in production hell for like 10 years. They just dropped it all together because the thing couldn't get off the ground.
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>>77558441
I'd love it if he wrote a sequel to Two Hearts.
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>>77552943
There are titties in it, anon.
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I got to see it in January on the tour they did. Got a signed copy of the graphic novel, too. Sadly that's been suspended because Beagle was having memory issues.
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The comic IDW put out a few years back was fucking beautiful.
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>>77544100
Lemme guess: Old lady harpy nipples
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>>77563452
I'm not sure about the harpy, but they censor the part where Molly says, "Damn you" when first meeting the unicorn.
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>>77562422
Did he really say taco?
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>>77563655
Yeah. It's in the book, too.
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>>77563151
Holy crap that is a GREAT cover. Much better than the book cover on my copy of the novel.
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>>77546561
Are you me?
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>>77563720
Beagle really liked Tacos I guess.
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>>77548298
You've never had a cat have you?

>Cat begging for food
>Just annoyingly begging
>Give it food
>it just sorta walks around it, doesnt eat, and acts like you're such an idiot for giving it to them

Common scene for cat owners.
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>>77563875
He was writing and tired when the phrase popped into his head. He thought it was funny and decided he'd use it if it was still funny the next day. And it was.
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>>77563966
>>77563875
>>77563720
So, were they eating tacos in that scene? I always thought he'd used some kind of old-timey speech I didn't recognize that just sounded like "taco."
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>>77564555
Well I'll be damned.
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>>77563452
None of the visual content was censored. It was several instances of the word "damn."

Saggy harpy tits: fine. Molesting tree: fine. "Damn you"? Good lord, no!
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Fun fact: Christopher Lee voiced King Haggard in both the English AND German dubs.

His voice in German is just as awesome as it is in English.
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I want to cum in the Unicorn.
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>>77565999
dragons are better
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>>77546842

>reverse image search
>can only find censored version

sign...
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>>77565855

For some reason I could only ever find the soundtrack in German. I have in on CD and on vinyl, fucking beautiful man.
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>>77564567
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>>77566356
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/424232#search=the_last_unicorn
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>>77563151
They even included some of the songs from the novel, as far as I remember.
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Would unicorn turn into horse if it had sex?
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This movie is also on amazon prime for free if anyone give a shit about that.

>>77564567
That guy on bottom right looks like he has seen some shit.
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I hate that the Enchanted bluray looks so clean
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>>77543871
The book was sad but I didn't find it depressing.
It's the best 'modern' fairytale I've read.
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bumpu
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>>77563936
We own 2. Sometimes they want something specific.
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>>77568331
If that were the case then where do unicorns come from?
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>>77570463
Will the extended version ever be released? I couldn't afford to go across the country and see it in California or wherever.
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>>77541155
It you liked that, check out the other animated films they did: The Hobbit and Flight of the Dragons. They're all pretty fantastic.
Hobbit and Unicorn are practically perfect adaptations, you mostly just lose out on some backstory and one or two plot points, but they aren't really weaker for it.
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>>77574559

> Flight of the dragons
Is that the one with the cringey euphoric ending where the MC invokes a bunch of scientific words like they are magical talismans
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>>77574736
Yeah.
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>>77574736
That part seemed really badass when I was a kid. I still consider it a good movie.
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>>77543998
I dunno about nightmare fuel but this was certainly something in my childhood.
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>>77563936
you're not own a cat, you're his property
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>>77543871
The Wizard (Schmendrick?) was straight up the most tragic character character I've read in years. I don't even remember the most heartwrenching parts but I'm pretty sure there's a segment near the end that had me crying like a bitch.
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>>77574736
Said scientist also marries his waifu.
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>>77574853

Probably at the time it didn't seem nearly as bad as it does today
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>>77541515
>>77541528

I love you 4chan, with big gay fucks, never change anon-san.
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>>77574736
flight of dragons was boss for this one scene alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKOErq1-okU
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>>77575840
That comic is wonderful.
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>>77573970
It's said in the book that they mate very rarely, being immortal and all.
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>>77575879

I have 4 of 6 of the issues on my computer here. It is amazing.
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>>77575707
>Cut well, old friend.

https://youtu.be/-qC2P7QYjaE?t=111
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>>77575840

> Unicorn transforms into naked beautiful man
> Kills three dudes
> Rails a virgin on top of their corpses

Wow pretty fucking hardcore
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>>77575840

I particularly like how the comic's just like "Yeah all she needed was a good dicking"
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>>77566369
only Germany released the soundtrack.
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A German theater company made a children's musical out of the book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUx0ueULluM

There's been a handful of sanctioned English stage productions over the years, including an English play. There was also apparently a ballet, but I've never been able to find pictures. The story would make a great ballet, though, especially with the whole transformation from unicorn to human woman thing... something like what they did with Neumeier's The Little Mermaid would work.
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>>77562770
The tour was scheduled to come to my state this month before it got stopped... I was so excited. I had a copy of the novel, comic and DVD ready to be signed.
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>>77576533
>that image
Only in Germany.
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>>77575917

Is there anywhere I can purchase this
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>>77577973
Barnes and Noble? Or your local bookstore or comic shop. Or Amazon.
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>>77546213
>Ninja Sex Party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF1Q56YAo0Q

I had to look this one up.
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>>77578060
bretty good actually
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>>77578060
>synth music in fantasy

Robin of Sherwood flashbacks...
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Good movie, score didn't seem to fit the tone though.
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>>77578523
Most of the time. But every time the main theme was referenced it was magic
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>>77553108
The way Schmendrick is tied to her, it would be extremely erotic if she didn't look like an old woman.
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>>77541515
>/mlp/
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Was Lir more interesting in the book? I remember barely remembering him from when I watched the movie.
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>>77566356
Worked fine for me.
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>>77567373

That's a great painting.
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>>77573970

They sprout like mushrooms from dead unicorns.
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>>77541155 I remember liking this movie as a kid. It's one of the things that got me interested in medieval fantasy. I re-watched it recently to see if it still holds up and I'd say it's aged very well. I'd say it's a classic that deserves more love.

>>77541515
Watched this movie with roommates a couple of months ago. Everyone wanted to fuck the unicorn.
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>>77541155
I love Lester Abrams character designs. It's a travesty he pretty much only did this and The Hobbit.
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>>77562631
Children are exposed to violence more often than sex. A pair of tits isn't going to corrupt their little minds.
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>>77582314
Thats more of a north american thing. In europoorland voilence is the big thing to protect the childrens from, mild sexual themes are kinda like whatever.

You ever watched Wakfu? you should
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>>77575937
>This is how I paladin.
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>>77546379
Fetish fuel. I loved seeing the Wizard get smothered by these breasts as a kid...still do.
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Reminder that there is a sequel called Two Hearts
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>>77575937
A paladin among paladins
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This seems to be a flavor of fantasy that was perhaps too common at one point, but is more uncommon nowadays
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>>77564567
>Entire Party Fails Perception Role For Plothook.jpg
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>>77584016
It's stated that almost all humans are incapable of seeing unicorns for what they are.
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>>77584269
Hence the perception roll. Also the out of context scenario where theres a unicorn and everyone happens to be looking the wrong way
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Watching this right now, thank you /co/mrades

Wizard seems like a bro but don't tell me he fucks the unicorn.
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>>77584454

> Hey everyone, what's going on in this forest glade-
> BY THE GODDESS
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>>77584963
No, The Dude fucks the unicorn.
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>>77569662
>That guy on bottom right looks like he has seen some shit.

He should be our feel man
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>that fucking skeleton
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"Oh, she'll kill me, one of these days. But, she will always remember that I trapped her and imprisoned her! So there's MY immortality, eh? Ha ha ha ha ha!"
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>>77585395
Fucking open armed welcome of the harpy as it slaughters her.
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The one thing in the movie that I can't stand is that goofy-ass beatnik butterfly. Couldn't they have thought of a better way for Unicorn to decide to go on her journey?
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>>77585644
I fucking hate that butterfly.
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>>77563655
>>77563720
>>77564321
>>77564555
>>77564567
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>>77585644
And he knows modern pop culture. He's like Beagle's Bombadil.

But speaking of which, I wonder how a proper Rankin-Bass Fellowship and Two Towers would've been if Bakshi never made his valiant but half-done effort.
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>>77580596
yes, he actually had personality.
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>>77583326
Love that little story so much.

>I didn’t see if the unicorn said goodbye to Molly and Schmendrick, and I didn’t see when it went away. I didn’t want to. I did hear Schmendrick saying, “A dog. I nearly kill myself singing her to Lir, calling her as no other has ever called a unicorn--and she brings back, not him, but the dog. And here I’d always thought she had no sense of humor.”
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>>77541332
In the book it ends with Schmendrick thinking she's prettier than Amalthea when she smiles. It was so sweet.
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>>77562631

So? There's duck tits in fucking Howard the Duck, and that's played as a kids film
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>>77574736
>the cringey euphoric ending where the MC invokes a bunch of scientific words like they are magical talismans

Oh fuck off, that scene was brilliant.
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>>77585644
He's okay. In the movie he seems like a sentient character but it's actually that butterflies are retarded and can only repeat things they have heard. that's why his conversation is so fucked but he gets ot the point eventually.
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>>77587163

Bro I'm an atheist myself and an engineer and pro-science and all that but the dude literally says "Oh ho magic is dumb" and then proceeds to use scientific words and facts exactly as if they are magic incantations

That shit was DUMB
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>>77585395
>>77585453
What a badass scene.
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>>77541155
The end was kinda meh, just them shifting around a castle talking in meta dialogue and then finally the damn bull shows up to end the boredom.
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>>77543998

Damn, had to listen closely. Hard to imagine that's fucking Rene. Granted, I guess he was young enough to have a different enough voice.
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>>77587330

No it wasn't. He was using logic as someone who is logical would. He wasn't calling magic stupid, but merely using the power of his world. It's even made clear in the start of the film that because mankind is becoming more scientific, that their belief in magic is dwindling as logic and reasoning takes hold.
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>>77581995
And here I was thinking "This looks a lot like Bakashi's The Hobbit" in terms of design.

Guess it wasn't just me.
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>>77587442

Buddy I get that the theme was mankind abandoning magic as an illusion and turning to science but

> He was using logic as someone who is logical would

No he fucking wasn't he was literally just shouting scientific words at things

Protip: The scientific, logical thing to do when confronted with a seven headed dragon is not to deny that it could possibly exist and shout science words at it, but to consider that maybe perhaps there are gigantic gaps in your knowledge and understanding of the world. Just shouting science words at things is literally just expecting science to work exactly like magic is supposed to

I get the theme and all, but they could have executed it SO much better
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>>77575937
>spike nipples

Ha!

Still pretty badass though that he'd fight a massive dragon.
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>>77587642

It was just fine, Christ. You're like the people Moore goes on about who have to nitpick the stupidest fucking things
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>>77587694

> Complete incongruity in the movie's climactic battle in regards to the overriding theme (it kind of defeats the point to have a theme of 'science over magic' if you use science exactly like magic)
> nitpicking

Just accept that it's a pretty glaring flaw and get over it faggot
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>>77570596
I cry evertim.
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>>77543871
>Don't read the book unelss you wanna get depressed

the bit at the end where they all cry out for the unicorn as she is about to leave and Molly immediately wishes they didn't, because she sees how it hurt the unicorn gets me every time
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Since it was never mentioned, there's a graphic novel adaptation of it. I was going to buy it but when I saw it in store it was like $40 and I already read it when someone story timed it. I'll pick it up eventually.
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>>77587848
Also a one shot of a hot male unibro which brings the question: Do the unicorns reproduce?

I figured no because they were magic/immortal.
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>>77587848
>since it was never mentioned
>literally mentioned and pages posted multiple times in the thread
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>>77587887
Whoops. I was here in the beginning, scrolled a bit here and there for the past day or so and didn't see it.
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>>77587880
Actually, this same image was already posted earlier when the comic was mentioned.

>>77575840
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>>77541155
Watched the movie for the first time this year and what I took away the most is that I probably should have read the book instead. I got the feeling the whole time that many plots were being sped up and scenes were being abbreviated too much.
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>>77588077

Definitely read the book, it's very good. I like the movie but it does have some pacing issues.
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>>77588077
There actually isn't too much cut out from the book (IIRC the only major cut is the removal of a subplot with the town by the castle) but the book does give you a better sense of the story than the movie, especially the thoughts/personality of the unicorn.
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Watching it for the first time. Surprised to find it on netflix, but so far seems to be a delight.
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>>77541155
It's great if you can look or rather hear past all the songs that sound like they were recorded in a bathroom made of tin.
Animation is 10/10 but its what to expect from Topcraft the animation studio that eventually went on to become Studio Ghibli.
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I'M ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVEEEEEEEEEEEEE


IM ALIIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>77587771

It's not an incongruity when it's something the film had established, retard
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Thanks for ruining my day /co/. Now I feel all melancholy and shit. ;_;
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>>77585938

just "tacos" man, this and the bear naming thing are messing with my grip on reality
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>>77590737
Is this the soundtrack to your soul?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEzwQ-_psbM
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I kind of wish more fantasy nowadays had this sort of fairy-tale feel to it. Seems most fantasy these days is the sort of high-fantasy WoW derivative, or it's super grimdark. This story feels like an actual myth, which very little fantasy these days feels like.
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>>77541155
Better late than never, m8. It's truly a magnificent film.
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>>77591891
Or is all self-aware.

>I'm an Athiest Cleric *winks at audience*
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>>77591891
I know what you mean. Everything that isn't trying to be WoW today is trying to be GoT. It's like there's no middle ground between Disney Princess and Medieval Murderfucking anymore.
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>>77591891
Man, the shit I'd give for a Redwall movie announcement sometime in 2016
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>>77591891
Over the Garden Wall has that kinda feeling a bit.
Not so much myth as fairy-tale though...
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>>77592419
Every fantasy writer should be required to read Tolkien's essay On Fairy-Stories.
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>>77592653
More Folklore than Fairy Tale, really.

Goddamnit, now I need to rewatch it. I need that autumn gold back in my life.
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>>77592653

Yeah, OTGW is good, but I do agree with >>77592716 that it feels more like folklore than fairy tale fantasy. Still very good.

>>77592554
If Redwall were made by modern hollywood the tone would be entirely changed from the books to something equivalent to dark and grimy action CG-animated bullshit. No thanks.
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>>77592716
>>77592762

Regardless, it feels more like old Disney movies than anything Disney's put out in the last few years. Like watching it put me in that frame of mind that watching, say, Pinocchio does.
And I guess I meant fairy-tale in the older sense, like Hansel and Gretel or shit like that. The terms folklore and fairytale were interchangeable at one time.
But I def agree that we need more fantasy in that sweet spot of having a childlike sense of wonder mixed with some of the darkness of reality. >>77592419 is completely on the nose.
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>>77541188
>>77541332
That part really got me. That's when I realized that I'd never find a doorway to a magical realm, I'd never escape the mundane, and that I might never find a happy ending.
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Interesting fact...

This was animated by the anime studio that Miyazaki would take over and turn into Studio Ghibli.
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>>77593274

>>77541346
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>>77541188
Oh hell, Molly, her reaction to seeing the Unicorn... Oh that got me.
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Anyone got movies/books similar in ambience, theme, or feels to this movie?
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>>77585453
The music that plays whenever the harpy is on screen gives me shivers every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkAbmWrqtC0
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>>77594672

I get that she kills the old lady. But at 2:46, you see the old lady dead in the foreground, and it's feasting on something else. What is it?
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>>77590841
bear naming?
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My favourite animated film, I've seen it 46 times by now. At least once a year.

>>77541380
Fun fact: Christopher Lee voiced King Haggard in both the English and the German version of the film.
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>>77575099
Next time there is a draw thread, can someone make a request to redraw this scene, only instead of this old hag tree, a sex giant dryad thingy also with big tits?
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>>77595501
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>>77595190
The harpy is eating Mommy Fortuna's assistant.
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>>77594501
Grimm's fairytales? And when you're done with Grimm, the logical next steps are Perrault, Andersen, Wilde, and Madame d'Aulnoy.

Some of those will get away from the same feel this one has, but they're big names in fairytales. Also Jack Zipes has a very good fairytale compilations and writings on fairytales.

For more specific stories that are a bit similar to this, I recommend Undine by Friedrich de la Motte Fouqué, the Swan Lake ballet, ETA Hoffmann's The Golden Pot, and Keat's poem Lamia.

Oh, and for a more recent comic, read Beautiful Darkness.
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>>77595655
>Beautiful Darkness
100% recommended

Beauty is even more like The Last Unicorn.
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>>77595655

Thanks anon, this movie gave me a desire for a certain type of story that I didn't even know I had
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>>77592264
That was one of my biggest issues with Tangled and Frozen. I hate when movies are like "look, look how we're subverting this tropes? isn't it wacky?"
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>>77592264
Pointing out tropes is the worst trend in all of fiction.
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>>77587556
You mean the Rankin-Bass one, not Bakshi's.
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>>77598085

I hate this too. It's...hard to describe, but it always makes the story come across like it has a huge chip on its shoulder. Like the story is more about saying "Hoho, look at these tropes, WHAM BAM we reversed them, aren't we clever" than it is about telling a story. Like it's more about proving a point than telling a tale. It's actually a problem in a lot of media now, I think.
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>>77592762
CG in the style of Guardians of Gahool would probably work for it though.
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I like how Schmendrick seems like he's just there for oafish comic relief but then turns out to be very eloquent and philosophical

"She will remember your heart when men are fairy tales in books written by rabbits"

"It's a very rare person who's taken for who he truly is."

"There are no happy endings because nothing ends"
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>>77541188
I wasn't really enjoying this movie until up to this point. It was a moving scene, and I cried a little.
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>>77541155
I just happened to purchase the graphic novel version recently.

What other films are under-appreciated epics?


The Hobbit?
Flight of Dragons?
What else?
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>>77600998

It is a very powerful scene

Sort of painful, too

Makes me remember how long, how much I wished to see something magical as a kid, and how much it hurt when I eventually figured out I never would
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If Beagle gets a live action version going, would Del Toro be too dark for this? Peter Jackson is too unsubtle.
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>>77603117

I don't know if Del Toro would be able to handle it. Shame is Jackson could do it perfect if he had someone there to hold his hand and prevent retarded decisions.
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>>77602843
I still don't get it. She came off to me as though she thought she deserved to see a unicorn.
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>>77598085
>>77600068
It can work sometimes, though.

Like in Rick and Morty, Jessica asks "So is that you're cousin or..." and Morty says "No, my grandfather uploaded his consciousness into a younger clone of himself." "Oh."

It's not forced or "all wink wink nudge nudge" at the audience, yet it takes what's usually done and jokes that it'll just throw that cliche out.

Another example would be Gravity Falls. Mabel and Bipper interrupt a play and fight onstage, and at the end of it Mabel says "Don't worry, this is the part where the audience thinks it was supposed to happen and loves it" and then they boo her.
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>>77604704
Not really. If she'd died having never seen one, or heard someone else had seen one and knew they existed but never saw one herself, she would have been happy enough and not felt deprived, and would have been spared a certain pain. But if you're a woman and if you see a unicorn, you see it when you're a young, pure, virginal maiden. That's how the story goes. Seeing it when you're broken and defiled and have become an old hag is just an insult.

Maybe it's like your family taking you to Disney World for the first time when you're jaded and crippled and 80 years old. It's still fuckin Disney World, but the magic of thinking it's real is gone and there are lots of things about it you can't even enjoy because you're old.
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>>77591891
>>77592264
If I remember right the book had some self-awareness as well right?
I can remember an irreverent tone to it at times and it definitely felt post-18th century, but it still retained a sincere fairy tale feel too it.
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>>77605323
I'd say the story seems pretty postmodernist, like Beautiful Darkness. It's calling attention to and/or subverting tropes, but it's not doing it in an over the top humorous way or for a sense of shock value, but letting it happen more naturally just to fit in a modern style.
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>>77604704
Put yourself in her shoes, anon. Imagine being a child, and the only thing you ever wanted was to see a unicorn. Then you're slowly beaten down by a world that is nothing but mundane, until all the sense of wonder is taken out of you, and you become a hardened, cynical adult.

And then one day you see it, the unicorn you always wished for as a child. It's even more beautiful and graceful than you could have ever imagined. And you find, old and worn as you are, that it makes you keenly aware of only one thing: That you can never really appreciate it like you would have as a child, because you've long ago lost the sense of wonder necessary for that. You look at it and all you feel is an immense sense of loss for what might have been, for the joy you might have felt, if only it had come to you sooner.

That and the whole virginal/maiden aspect that >>77605183 mentioned
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>>77541155
>Heck, most adults are probably too dumb to understand the story its broader mythological context
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>>77578060
I love the song and it's clear he loves The Last Unicorn but fucking Danny, throughout that whole thing I kept expecting him to start singing about his dick or something
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>>77541155
>Why didn't anyone ever tell me how good this movie is?!
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>>77604971
I think the difference might be the tone of the media plus whether or not the characters are kind of...aware of it? Like, as if Mabel had watched a lot of shows with that trope and expects it to work in real life. Both those examples are comedies, as opposed to, say, Frozen's "You can't marry someone you just met! (haha not like all those other Disney Princesses)"

>>77600068
I also mostly hate the reverse, where they play it straight and are like "ugghhhh that's so clicheeee"
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>>77594501
I am vaguely reminded of the ambience of the anime Escaflowne, at least for the wilderness parts.
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Watching this right now.
The animation is kind of shitty, but I'm loving the fuck out of this butterfly.
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>>77607684
I hate trope awareness in general, honestly, unless it is explicitly part of the story that a character is somewhat wall-breaking and is written well.

It takes you out of the story too much. It makes you think less about what is happening and what is being described and more about what tropes are at play. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so common.
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Really, almost everything about this movie is shitty.
The voice acting (except Shmendrick), the animation, the sound mixing, cinematography, etc.

But it still manages to be really enjoyable and intriguing somehow.
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>>77608689
I love the visual style.
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>>77609201
I like the art too.
It's kind of ugly, but in the good way.
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I'll never forget when I first saw this movie. It was in this shit school where teacher was a whale and I swear I didn't learn a goddamn thing for a whole year. But holy shit, every Friday was party time. The school would sell fresh popped popcorn and snowcones and piping though the schools A/V system was always one of three things: Indian Jones and the Temple of Doom, Secret of N.I.M.H. and The Last Unicorn. These movie started my love of animation.

Last Unicorn especially because it had a bitter-sweet ending. The Unicorn finds love and loses it. She even comments she may never fit in with the other unicorns because she has felt regret...and yet, she's not sorry for it. An animated movie that challenged me as a kid that sometimes life doesn't have a happy ending.


>>77574208

I heard rumors that they were remastering the movie and even adding in extra animation they found. Oh well, at least I just found out it's available on Blu-ray uncut! Holy shit, I cannot tell you how long I've waited for them to do a proper release. Made my holiday year!

>>77577973

Yeah, it's on Amazon..for $60. I shit you not.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Last-Unicorn-Comic-Book/dp/B004H9T37G
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Love the song that plays as she travels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wQ0j33bTd4
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>>77610461
That's the first issue. And that's dumb Amazon Marketplace pricing. Try your LCS.

List price for the trade paperback is $20, and you can probably find it in a Barnes & Noble. There's also a hardcover, and they're also doing pre-orders for expanded editions at http://conlanpress.com/graphic-novels/
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>>77541155
This scene and its music (the whole one in the movie) makes this moment EPIC: https://youtu.be/_Igput-NYJc...

What's yours anon?
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>>77610679

Unf-
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The following is a must listen for everyone who seen this film:
http://media.libsyn.com/media/gooberzilla/unicorn061109.mp3

It's a review from a rather... passionate fan.
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>>77610461
>piping though the schools A/V system was always one of three things: Indian Jones and the Temple of Doom, Secret of N.I.M.H. and The Last Unicorn.

You rewatched the same three films for a whole year?
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>>77574736
Definitely the weakest of the three, but it was also the one to not be lifted straight from a book. I still enjoyed it and you have James Earl Jones voicing the villain.
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>but it was also the one to not be lifted straight from a book

Actually, "The Flight of Dragons" was based on two books: the story itself is mostly from a novel called "The Dragon And The George", where a guy's mind ended up in the body of a dragon ("George" is what dragons call humans). Peter Dickenson, the scientific stuff, and the designs of the dragons were based on the real-life Peter Dickenson and his science book "The Flight Of Dragons", which is about how dragons may have existed and evolved, focusing on how everything about the dragon mythos and how they could have been real is centered on how and why they breathed fire. It's a really interesting book and makes the existence of dragons pretty plausible.
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>>77603117
Del Toro would be PERFECT
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>>77552943

Yeah, i'm so sick of this "it can't be for kids because it's so complex". It reeks of insecurity. Watch cartoons, no one cares. You don't need to justify how "grown up" your cartoons are.
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I like the movie a lot, but the book and the comic adaptation are my favourites. It's such a bittersweet, wistful story and it doesn't treat kids like they're too dumb to understand a decent story or characters that are more complex than just being an evil king or a comical sidekick. There's so many bits that stuck in my mind, like Molly's heartbreak when she feels that a unicorn has come to her too late and it only reminds her that her life hasn't gone the way it could, that creepy-cool harpy, just how fucking sad King Haggard is, the unicorn panicking when she becomes human, the way she feels pain that no immortal creature was meant to feel and that's what saves her. I'd love to see a live action film that did it justice.
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>>77613078
Partially correct. Yes, one must not justify oneself.

But that does not mean us, the audience, should allow animation to be treated as a pacifier for babies.

Yes, watch what you like. But also do not let the things you love get trashed and abused by the mainstream.
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