Let's read Aliens - Fire and Stone.
Released in 2014, it takes place 20 years after the events in Aliens.
>MEH: the book
To think it had such potential.
I blame the massive plot reworking the writers said they had to go through like mid-job though.
>>77519552
It wasn't THAT bad. I honestly think that Dark House did a decent job seeing as they don't adopt any of the Alien cliches, or anything that Alien became popular for.
>>77519533
>that art
I've seen it a lot in the past and i always thought is was fan art. Never thought it was the actual cover.
Either way thanks for the story time OP.
Should I do Issue 2?
>>77519729
Not a problem mate.
The art is kind of uninspiring to be honest. I'll love anything Dark House does that pertains to Alien tho. I'm that much of a fanboy.
>>77519737
please (:
>>77519788
Issues 2 comin up.
Nice cover art here.
>>77519533
Are you going to dump the whole event or just the Aliens part?
>>77519836
Depends what you want.
Surprise!
Should I continue with issue 3?
>>77519955
Yes please.
>grim dark
>destroy everything
>>77519978
Can do.
>>77519985
It's alien, what do you expect?
>>77519955
Yes please!
>>77520031
Bit late there.
>>77519548
Don't they need live people as hosts for reproduction? Why killing them peeps?
>>77520088
Yeah but like, they gotta eat aswell.
Honestly, I've got no idea. It's kinda hard to drag lots of people to a hive. Sci-Fi logic.
>>77520099
we've never seen the aliens eat people
they just kill or take for hosts
>>77520106
I know. It was a poor attempt at sarcasm.
But, why is it not eating if they use their inner mouth to kill someone?
Urgh. Why does reCAPTCHA think a "25 speed limit" sign is a street name?
>>77520106
Even a perfect hunter needs to eat, even if they are super efficient they need to get fuel from somewhere.
>>77520112
That last panel, the guy with the sledgehammer. What was going through his head given the look on his face?
>>77519943
>take the fight to them
They bleed acid, though.
>>77519950
The FUCK?
>>77520159
I've never actually noticed him. Thanks for the laugh.
>>77520189
You don't ever take the fight to the Alien. You just wait till you die.
>>77520252
I know where this is going and I like it!
>>77520222
>>77520159
In fact, what happens to him? We see him hit a xeno, then with that silly smirk, then... nothing? There's a guy with the gun and someone getting hit with acid-blood, but I'm guessing they're not the same guy?
>>77520099
>they gotta eat aswell
Is this canon?
>It's kinda hard to drag lots of people to a hive
Yeah, coz they lack the numbers because they didn't drag enough people to the hive to have more xeno drones to drag the rest.
What are your favourite theories?
I like the one about Aliens being highly evolved peaceful race that to get rid of their bad emotions have to put their babies in a pyramid (or whatever) for a couple a days, but something went wrong and they're reduced to them bugs.
And the one about how Aliens are ancient alien bioweapons.
Sick.
>>77520261
Alien Zombie raping time.
>>77520267
They're bio weapons. Prometheus pretty much confirmed this.
>>77520261
I don't.
Issue 4?
>>77520280
>Prometheus
Is this canon?
Anyway, I meant a "bioweapon" theory from before Prometheus.
>>77520300
Confirmed to be 100% canon. The intention of the existence of the aliens was confirmed in a directors commentary of the movie. Kind of glad aswell. It makes a lot of sense.
>Engineers create us.
>We're shit.
>They had a back up plan to wipe us out.
Semi-Related: Ellen Ripley was my movie crush since I was like, 11.
>>77520316
That's a bit dull.
I think one of the Alien comics' I've read somewhere in the 90's had a nicer spin on this IMO.
That the Aliens predate every single one spacefaring race except, like, one that most probably created them or whatever and they pop in whenever a certain race gets spread around the galaxy enough or something, to cull it. Like, the force of nature.
Whatever it was so long ago I don't even remember what was the title. Maybe "Aliens: Angles" if something like this existed, but I only remember it being good, having the _original_ space jockey and not remembering the plot.
Cheers.
>>77519737
>SKREEEEEEEEE
I will always have a place for this in my heart alongside *BIFF*
>>77520369
That's a good theory aswell. Honestly, I was so anti Prometheus for a long time, but then I studied the movie more and worked out the apparent plotholes that weren't actually plot holes. And now it kinda seems all plausible. Alien 5 in 2017 should shed some more light on the subject.
I wish it was still a mystery. That's what made Alien 1 so good. The awe and mystery of their existence.
Pretty upsetting that Prometheus has pretty much ruined Aliens forever.
Like, we were already pretty bad off after Resurrection but now there's just no fucking hope.
>>77520459
Prometheus is one of the best Sci-Fi's ever created. Everyone needs to stop associating it with Alien so much. Yes it's part of the Alien universe. Will at affect the upcoming Alien movie? No. It won't.
Especially seeing as David Cameron and Ridley Scott are directing it.
>>77520401
>I wish it was still a mystery. That's what made Alien 1 so good. The awe and mystery of their existence.
This and the notion that those natural born killing machines are rather intelligent and not a bunch of bugs to be brakka'd by space marines en masse.
I'm off for now. Time to go home.
>>77520479
James Cameron*
It's 1 in the morning and I've been reading too much UK Times.
>>77520481
Have a good one mate.
>>77520479
>David Cameron and Ridley Scott directing
I take back my previous statement then. We have a chance.
>>77520459
What are you talking about? They never made another movie after aliens.
Resurrection and Prometheus are false movies send by the devil.
>>77520510
I know brother. I know.
>>77520500
Hell yes we do.
>>77520510
Hey, what about Alien 3?
>>77520510
>>77520525
Alien 1, 3, and Prometheus are the best in the series.
>>77520525
>>77520500
James Cameron, obviously.
Unless the british prime minister is co-directing with Ridley Scott.
>>77520549
Agreed. I never liked those bozo Marines.
I think Resurrection had capacity to be really good. But they fucked it up.
>>77520559
Now that would be good.
And they all lived happily ever after.
Anyone up for some Predator - Fire and Stone?
>>77520525
>>77520549
Alien 3!?! Ripley went from the ultimate badass from the previous movies, to some kind of radical feminist with the brain of a pea.
Also they killed of newt!
>>77520626
Newt's death, just as Ripley saving her, was thematically important.
>>77520626
I know right. Newt was like, so cute.
Urgh.
>>77520626
But it had pete postlethwaite! and Tywin Lannister nailed Ripley!
>>77520644
>Tywin Lannister nailed Ripley!
Haha. Fuck that made me choke on my coffee.
>>77520585
Sure, why not? It's been pretty enjoyable so far.
>>77520653
You got. Can only do 1 issue though, got an exam in about 6 hours and I haven't slept.
>>77520688
Should you really be here, when you have an exam in 6 hours?
>>77520711
Ofcourse I need to be here. Who else is going to do a Predator storytime?
>>77520770
The disgrace! he challenged him to single combat and the coward shot him!
There is no greater dishonour. The predator wasn't under any kind of pressure, he should have accepted the challenge!
Anyone know what the future of the AVP and Prometheus franchise is at Dark Horse ? This was supposed to be the start of a new unified line right ?
>>77520818
That only applies to fighting the protagonist.
So I am not familiar with story times, did the OP leave us hanging or is he just taking a potty break?
>>77520949
There's no way of telling, really.
>>77520369
Aliens: destroying angels
They turn the lovecraft to 11 for that one, kinda wish the trippy 'ancient, elder gods and demons from the edge of reality' theme stuck. More oportunities for Gigerian landscapes and Blame! Sized superstructures that way.
>>77520479
I trust neither of these men.
Prometheus was bad for reasons unrelated to the lore anyhow, it just wasnt exciting or coherent what-so-fucking-ever. That they made the jockrys boring and did a worse job at ANCIENT ALIENS than fucking AvP is it's own deal.
>>77521268
Pretty much this, to be honest. It has none of the tension out sense of peril that Alien did. The cast was too large and the small handful that received any development at all were shallow and under-realized. You can get away with having character "types" in a film like Alien because their relationships aren't personal, they're professional and there's a certain amount of distance between everyone as a result; but you can't pull off that trick when you have complicated romantic and familial relationship, like between Shaw and Holloway; or between Vickers, Weyland and David. You have to put in the effort to flesh those out and you can't do that when you're cutting back and forth to the Fifield and Millburn show, or Idris Elba's impromptu squeezebox solo.
And that's not even touching the fact that the story is all over the place. The black goo is liquid Deus Ex Machina, it does whatever the plot needs it to do in that particular scene; characters who are ostensibly experts in their fields behave like dopey college students in a slasher flick; and what little thought is given to the premise amounts to coffee shop theology - although, in fairness, you do have to go to Ridley Scott's boneheaded commentary on Jesus being an Engineer to close the loop on the two-thousand-year-old corpse.
There's not much to like and a whole lot to hate about Prometheus. A lot of that could be forgiven if they'd at least made it an enjoyable film but watching the movie is a chore.
>>77519845
id love the whole event!
>>77521210
If you could story time it that sounds sweet
God I love this art style so much.
>>77522358
Honestly, the only good parts of Prometheus were the visuals, and David. Everything else either makes no sense, or makes sense but only in an incredibly retarded way.
>>77521210
Yeah. Personally, I think the origin, or creation, or details surrounding the Xenos should not be touched. I mean, you can tease at it a little bit, sure, but it shouldn't ever be definitively showed.
They should just be mysterious creatures that writhe in the shadows, from some long-forgotten corner of the universe. People may find a way to deal with a few of them, or they may experiment on them a little to find some tiny hints about them, but at the end of the day, you know they're always out there and don't know where they're going to pop up next to wreck everyone's shit.
>>77523826
Cant make any promises, but it's usually in every alien comic pack
>>77520818
maybe the predator is on a "mission" rather than a hunt
>>77525127
Now that OP is death, I guess we will never find out.
But, yes. That is a valid reason, didn't think of that one.
>>77525508
Op is dead
Op was a pretty cool guy
>>77519533
Thanks op
>>77526039
RIP in peace.
>>77520585
Well, that was singularly anticlimactic.
Op has been attacked by a face hugger
>>77524029
It's not so much keeping it in mystery as much as keeping it abstract and unsettling on a deeper level. Aliens break the laws of physics, nature and are generally fucked up things humanity can't figure out. There has to be more bizarre things from where they came from, that shitty goo can't be it.
>>77528731
He should be done with his exam by now. Keep the thread going and maybe he'll post the rest when he gets back.
Picking up where OP left.
>>77530178
You're doing God's work, anon.
>>77530268
Eh, didn't have anything better to do.
So is the Endgame for this series that the Aliens are going to win and conquer the Universe? Because they do pretty good.
Continue?
y/n
>>77530417
Sure, I'm down for whatever.
>>77530425
A'ight.
Is this new Predator stuff canon since this is all part of the same dohickey?
>>77530951
I guess? I honestly don't have a clue how the Alien/Predator EU works.
BRB
>>77531373
Thank you replacement op
>>77531543
OP is dead! Long live OP!
>>77531543
It's nothin, luv.
>>77520156
ive always preferred the giant living battery theory
the predator and Prometheus arcs were pretty good. the avp one was trash and the alien one was meh, the artist used action figures as reference for the aliens and its painfully obvious to me.
>>77533526
oh shit
>>77520316
I thought it was to fight the predators, but then the aliens just fucked the engineers shit up
>>77520316
I think the Aliens were designed to supplant the human race. They share out DNA, they're structurally perfect and they could never become smart enough to challenge the Engineers.
>>77533820
Prometheus has nothing to do with predators. in fact it decanonized the avp movies which was a smart move on fox's part. these comics and their new novels are showing they're trying to push for a new continuity.
