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The absolute fucking state of this show.
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>This little twerp is getting a redemption arc

Fucking...WHY?! A few days ago in this shows canon he tried to blow up Mabel and Dipper just so he could commit Voter Fraud.

And then several months back he tried to smash Dipper like an insect in his giant robot

And now he's just gonna take Dipper's advice saying how "Mabel loves heroes...you wanna be a hero Gideon?"

Fuck Gideon. Nobody likes this little shit
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>>77465109
Shut up faggot, it's a cartoon.
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>>77465109
>Nobody likes this little shit
I do.
I can't hate anybody voiced by Thurop Van Orman.
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What's the matter opee, you don't ship Mabideon?
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> redemption arc

More like rushed as hell and contrived reconciliation just to tie up loose ends since the shows ending.
> Le love conquers all.
It was honestly pretty out of character.
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>>77465125

No.

First my waifu is a lesbian now Gravity Falls is trying to give everyone a redemption arc

Why does TV hate me.
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>>77465172

>No season 3

I swear to god Disney hates money and hates cartoons

>LOL WE HAVE MARVEL AND STAR WARS WHO CARES WE'RE GONNA BE BALLS DEEP IN MONEY
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>>77465161
Fuck off, buttscab.
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>>77465224

But doesn't GF have a set episode schedule?
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>>77465109
>Nobody likes this little shit
He's more enjoyable than le meme nacho god mode author avatar.
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>>77465109
I also don't get this and while this has probably been discussed to death I'm not sure where this came from. There was one short wen Gideon was nice to the prisoners but it seemed to be the same shit he was pulling with the townsfolk as in not really giving a shit about them and the whole thing being an act.
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Imagine if at the end of the final episode, Dipper and Mabel triumph in having defeated Bill, only for him to rise back from the dead and zap the two into the Forbidden Zone.
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>>77465332

If I could think of the top 5 people I hate in animation right now

>5: Gregory (Over the Garden Wall)
>4: Steven (Steven's Universe)
>3: Mr. Poopy Butthole (Rick and Morty)
>2: Gideon (Gravity Falls)
>1: Korra (LoK)
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>>77465324
Anon, Gravity Falls began airing in June 2012.

That's two seasons in over three years, and the second one isn't even over yet.
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>>77465172
>love conquers all
>implying the underlying value isn't mabel's sweet cunny conquers all
It's well documented that Alex's sister dominated and possibly raped him several times, and thus Alex has been conditioned into thinking his sister's V is the most important thing in the world.
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>>77465192
because you're a faggot with shit taste

now please
have sex
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>>77465343

Its bad enough Pacifica got a redemption arc and now Gideon is getting one

The only side characters worthy of redemption arcs are McGucket and Wendy. Everyone else is inconsequential
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>>77465224
>No season 3

Is that true? Any confirmation of this?
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>>77465471

No u!
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>>77465484
The original plan was for three seasons, one season per in-show month.
Eventually that plan became two seasons and a separate movie.

Given how "Weirdmageddon" is a multi-part story, it looks as though the movie is indeed the movie, having been rewritten into the show as three episodes.
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>>77465542

>Stanford is barely getting anytime to show off his more human side
>We're just left to assume he's just "LOL SCIENCE AND WEIRD THINGS! Get the fuck out of my house Stanley!"
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>>77465398
Hating Mr. Poopy Butthole

you monster
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>>77465598

By the way I am secretly Beth.

How was I suppose to know he wasn't a parasite. Sleepy Gary is a treasured member of my family.
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Stay tuned for the Gravity Falls series finale when Dipper defeats Bill by giving him a 30 second FRIENDSHIP SPEECH and Bill is redeemed and opens a shelter for homeless kittens and puppies!!

POWER OF LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP
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>>77465542

Probably at least four episodes, possibly five.

>>77465596

Fuck Ford.
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Oh boy I can't wait to see how bill gets defeated. Literally no reason not to turn dipper into stone and make his victory certain.
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>>77465109
Wasn't there a brief shot of Dipper punching Gideon in the early Weirdmageddon or did that already happen with Wendy and the road warriors. I forget.
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>>77465977
No, it looks as though it's going to be the series finale, which has two episodes left, if we go by the credits scroll thing.
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>>77465995
>Literally no reason not to turn dipper into stone and make his victory certain.

It's because Bill wants to fuck him, I read about it on the Internet.
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>>77466056
I'm assuming there will be one after the credits scroll is finished actually.
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gravity falls is literally the same tier as horse show when it comes to villains

gideon is trixie and bill is discord
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>>77466056
I'm pretty sure someone affiliated with the show mentioned there are four more episodes in this season. Last ep might just be a wrap up though.
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>>77465125
>pulling out the cartoon card
Hi, Alex.
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>>77465161
My dad works at Alex Hirsch and he says Mabideon is endgame.
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>>77466166
Bullshit, the real endgame is Wendideon.
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>>77465476
>McGucket and Wendy

Redemption from what?
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>>77466415
To be honest, I hated Wendy for nearly the whole show. I thought she was a hoodlum who was as much a criminal as her friends. It was only until "Weirdmaggedon, Part 1" that I thought she had redeeming qualities.
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>>77466415

We used to think McGucket was just a crazy old man with really good mechanic skills until Blind Eye told us he purposely made himself this way because Stanford was trying to summon a demon.

Wendy finally made it abundantly clear to Dipper "Senpai you're like...12...i'm not your girlfriend."

To which /co/ responded with "LOL nice try alex i'm not gonna stop drawing porn."
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Gideon is a fucking mastermind, he's gonna betray Dipper later.
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Even an omnipotent god cant pierce plot armour
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>>77465109
calm down, it's a disney cartoon, not another one of your amc dramas
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>>77465476

Pacifica got a two episode long redemption arc though; Gideon got, what, three minutes?

Plus, Gideon just tried to kill the twins a fe episodes ago - all Pacifica ever did was be a bitch.

Also, all Pacifica had to do was pull a lever, Gideon is breaking a demon deal with the forces of Hell that have just conquered the world.

I think Gideon's "redemption arc" would be fine if they'd given it some time though...and it is just a cartoon. Another thing that got compressed by the Season 2 and Season 3 squish, probably. So we get episode after episode of "duurrr I luv you Wendy" and a few minutes for this major Gideon heel turn.

You also get zero time to resolve Stan and Ford's relationship and Bill has a whole miniboss squad that appears out of nowhere at the last minute.
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>>77466524

I wish McGucket hadn't dissapeared right when he got his mind back.
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>>77466056
Storyboarder said 22 episodes so the final end card probably foreshadows something in the very last episode.
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>>77465109
>Gideon is the one who summoned Bill to begin with
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>>77465476
Pacifica's redemption arc was fine because she was never evil to begin with.

Literally all she ever did in Season 1 was say mean things to Mabel.
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>>77465109
>It's the most diablolical trap ever!
>Implying Gideon isn't faking.
This is all a setup.
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>>77468681
The funniest thing she ever said was still, "I'M RUINED!" in Mabel's revenge fantasy.
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>>77466926
So what you're saying is Hirsch is a hack because he said "I only want to do 2 seasons and screw the story?"
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>>77465596
>"Sacraficed your life to try and fix a mistake? Selfish fool! Now I'll hang around in the basement and drive a wedge between children!"
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>>77465109
I honestly don't think Gideon's redemption was genuine. It was probably part of the plan.
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>>77468681
Pacifica's parents are evil. Pacifica just was a girl who had been abused verbally.

Can we all still agree that Wendy is the best. She was a beast in the last episode.
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>>77468899

>Pacifica's father went to Bill Cipher and said "Would you be interested in making me one of your 4 horsemen?"

Yeah maybe if you made the fucking deal over Gideon then maybe you idiot.
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>>77465109
>a redemption arc

No, Dipper just got him to agree on a common goal. I doubt he'll give up trying to seize power just because he realized he was a possessive dick towards Mabel.
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>>77465398
>4: Steven (Steven's Universe)

I reckon Steven's getting better as time goes on. I fucking hated him at first but he seems to have become more likeable.
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>>77468706
I think Gideon betraying him might be part of BILL'S plan/trap, or at least a foreseen outcome. But I think from Gideon's perspective, it's genuine.
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>>77469731

Nah. Steven won't improve as a character until he learns how to drop Connie like a bad habit

It would take Yellow Diamond killing a main character to make Steven less of a dumbass
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>>77465109
>The absolute fucking state of this show
I know what you mean.
>wheel symbols mean nothing
>portal symbols mean nothing
>stan's tattoo means nothing
>ford is dull as fuck
>soos devolved into an excuse to mock the manchild audience
>wendy was useless for most of the series despite being billed as a main character
>gideon's evil isn't supernatural in origin
>all the robbie/necromancy foreshadowing meant nothing
>northwests aren't involved in any grand secrets involving the supernatural
>robbie's redemption was tied to mabel and was entirely brainwashing
>pacifica's redemption was cliche muh parents shit and tied to dipper instead of pacifica
>gideon's redemption was complete bullshit fueled by his love for mabel even though he tried to kill her a few episodes prior and he has always treated the 2 people who love him the most like total shit
>shermie
>obligatory d&d parody by people who have never touched a tabletop game in their lives and got scared by the rules the one time one of them attempted
>blendin was more important than most of the townsfolk purely because manlex is justin reddit's fuccboi
>stan and ford's fallout was totally contrived
>agents conveniently written off
>mcgucket disappears until he can return without complicating the ford/rift stuff (how convenient!)
>where ford was for the past 30 year was completely glossed over
>ford's relationship with anyone besides dipper is barely touched
>roadside attraction
>le meme demon goes god tier but lets dipper live because he's actually dr evil and has shitty star vs rejects for henchmen
>le capitalists are pure evil
>mabel won't get any blame and will turn out to have God tier powers all while the other characters remind us SHE'S A SAINT and she is so pure and perfect she can redeem even gideon and dipper is SHIT because he doesn't want his life to revolve around her
>stan and bill's parallels won't even be touched upon
>the final end cards won't show anything interesting

Anything else?
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>>77470427
How can one post be so objectively wrong?
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>>77465109
>>77471881
>>77465172
>>77465343
Nice memes /sug/!

>>77470389
>>77469317
Good analysis.
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>>77472704
>Anybody who knows that GF isn't perfect is also a /sug/ shitposter
Are you retarded? Honest question.
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>>77472704
>people who point out flaws are memers
>people who pull baseless shit out of their asses while also contradicting each other are fair and even-handed
The liberal arts-educated hugbox generation terrifies me.
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>>77468778
No, you idiot, no-one's saying anyone's a hack. If anything, Disney's made a dumb mistake in not greenlighting S3. And even then it's likely they just don't give a shit.
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>>77465109
Still better than anything airing at CN, and almost everything at Nick (except Harvey Beaks, but with the way Nick is treating it, it might as well be canceled)
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>>77465125
No fucking shit.
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>>77465144
>Thurop Van Orman
What's up with his personal project by the way? Is there any progress?
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>>77465332
Gideon and Bill both suck ass. Gravity Falls can't into villains.
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>>77474193
This. Both are cuhrazy fucks. More so with Bill than Gideon
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>>77473054
>>77473679
>>77474193
>>77474203
Ow the memes.
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>>77474249
You're lucky the mods on /co/ don't care about shitposting because if they did I would report your ass so fast it would make your head spin. Shit-sucking scumfuck.
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At least he's amusing and can be fought conventionally. But show went off the rail recently.
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>>77465416
Sauce?
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I still get the feeling he isn't redeemed as such, he's just realized that as it stands he doesn't have Mabel, he just possesses her.
Gideon End goal is probably to get inside the giant Gumball o Doom with her in her endless summer, becoming the one 'real' person in her world and then let stockholm syndrome do the rest.

Or at least, I'm praying to god that's what it is, because if he really was turned around by that 'You can't force someone to love you, only try to become someone worthy of love' I got two things to say to you Hirsche
>Road Trip shit on Dip
and
>Fuck you.
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>>77474419
Anon's fanfics
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>>77471881
the ride is always more interesting than the destination. And a fun ride it was, i'm perfectly ok with the ending being shit because that's what I expected. I can't think of a single long-running series that didn't waste all the potential in the end.
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>>77474249
>Your opinion is a meme if it doesn't put the show on a pedestal

>>77474670
Goddamn, what is it about this show that attracts so many limp-wristed apologists who can't take any sort of criticism of their sacred cow?
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It felt pretty contrived and stupid, yeah
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>>77465109
Character arcs have never been GF's strong suite, OP. I'm surprised you haven't noticed that by now.
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>>77474964
What? Are you illiterate? In what was was that apologetic or unable to take criticism? He just said he doesn't care if the ending sucks because the show was fun. You are projecting so hard you can't even read, son.
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>>77474162
SU still exists, so... no.
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I think it was pretty reasonable that Gideon ally himself with Bill. That being said I think him going against Bil wasn't crazy. I mean Dipper was right, it's not like Mabel is ever gonna just start liking Gideon if she's locked up. Plus Gideon has to know deep down that Bill is no good for anyone.

Maybe it was a little rushed but it's a 30 minute cartoon show, I can forgive it. It made for an entertaining and funny chase scene and felt natural enough.
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I love how /sug/ is everywhere now.
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>>77465398
>Steven's Universe
I guess you only watched Gem Glow, huh.
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>>77471881
All this potential could've added up to another good half season at the least now that it's all listed right in front of me. Damn.
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>2015
>Doesn't believe in Steven

what a fag
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>>77475444
Banning /sug/ was a mistake. Now /sug/ shitposters go to other generals to shitpost.
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>>77473679
This liberal arts generation maymay is as stupid as "people who criticise GF are /sug/ posters"
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>>77475521
>2015
>Believes in Steven
What a fag
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>>77475544
>"People who don't agree with me are /sug/ posters"
Learn the memes you fag
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i wonder how shit will the berserk/one piece/hunterxhunter endings be if they ever end.
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>>77475723
They will never end.
Also >>>>>>/a/
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>>77475741
Why the fuck are there 3 Mabels?
That's 3 Mabels too fucking many.
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>>77475741
In what way? Popularity? Pfffft.
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>>77465109
I wouldn't call it a redemption arc. Dipper just convinced Gideon that defeating Bill is in his interest.
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>>77475763
That's incomprehensible and stupid. What the fuck set of circumstances led to that and what the fucking fuck led Gara to spawn them?
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>>77465398
>5: Gregory (Over the Garden Wall)
You're not my buddy, friend.
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>>77471881
>My headcanon didn't turn out to be true

I'm sorry
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>>77475885
Because lewd. You can't be fucking real.
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>>77472704
>HIDFaggot posts le FUCK YOU DAD IM A MEME DEMONACHO IN MY CARTOON author avatar
No surprise there.
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>>77474439
Hirsch is very much a dignity lacking Beta Loser male. I hope he's one of those men who gets raped in divorce. He deserves it.
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>>77475330
And it's shit
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>>77475330
>>>/trash/
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>>77475741
>go the way of Adventure Time?
Run for so long it loses everything that made it somewhat good? No
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>>77465172
It's not out of character. Gideon's only doing it to earn favor with Mabel. It's selfish, and also has that 'savior' angle he's ranted about before. (The last episode of season 1, he yells at the town that they'll need him)
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>>77475470

Nah. I'm where everyone else is right now

Not a Peridot fag but Peridot is right in every regard

The Crystal Gems had one job and its because of Rose being an incomplacent shit that she sees these gems as "malfunctioning"

Home World deserves better.
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>>77475892

Potatoes and Molasses is a horrible clash of flavors.

Wirt drives the plot along how can I hate him?
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>>77474193
I think Gideon is just fine and Bill is actually a really great villain, in concept and sometimes execution, but that he's hard to pull off well. I wish I could see what they would have done if the show hadn't been condensed. I also a sometimes wish GF wasn't read Y7 so they could take creepy things a little bit further.
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