Why does Marvel hate her?
>Forced to give up her name atleast three times
>Moved from team to team but hasn't made it on her own
>Just worked as Miss America 's hype man in the first Ultimates book
Do you think she'll ever get truly popular or they'll give her a chance to shine in Ultimates? Also Monica thread, because she needs love somewhere
No love for Monica here either?
>>77462969
>Forced to give up her name atleast three times
Be happy they didn't make her get rid of Spectrum to avoid confusion with Doctor Spectrum.
>>77462969
Aaron Stack is clearly an editor at Marvel.
>>77463219
Post more please
>>77462969
>>77463572
Why don't they just call her auntie monica?
They don't know what to do with her because she's the most broken Superhero next to the Sentry.
>>77462969
Monica is too good, nobody would buy her solo for fear of being emasculated forever.
>>77463655
Unless she's making pancakes i don't think so
>>77462969
>Do you think she'll ever get truly popular or they'll give her a chance to shine in Ultimates?
Of course she will. Ewing gave her a chance to shine in Mighty Avengers. Why would that change now?
>>77463654
I got a good bit of Monica
>>77463688
Wiccan is way more broken but he's going along fine
She's so rad in Stern's ryn. There's so much visual potential for depicting her powers.
>>77462969
Marvel would rather push Carol, the dummies.
>>77463780
Thank you
>>77463791
Can't wait to see more of Rocafort drawing her
>>77463840
No problem. I'm glad I can waifufag with a purpose
>>77464051
I also thank you anon.
>>77464076
Just a humble waifufag
>>77462969
1. She's a minority hero, always a hard push, especially when you never had a TV presence
2. Her powers are broken as fuck which makes her less fun to play with to certain writers.
Honestly, I feel like the best work I saw with her was friggen Nextwave.
>>77464687
... Also I like that she kept the trenchcoat. It fits.
>>77464648
She has the problem of most flying bricks. Being fundamentally not challenged or threatened by mundane adversity and being not very distinct.
>>77464849
I think that's why she's on a cosmic team now
>>77463688
>>77464648
Give her the black bolt treatment and have the writers forget half of her powers.
>>77464713
the trenchcoat started in nextwave?
>>77464938
They'd need to amp it up to silver surfer levels of jobbing.
Because reading the wiki entry she is just shy of being full on herald tier.
>>77464953
None of the people wearing trenchcoats in nextwave originally had trenchcoats.
>>77465045
This was her before
>>77464713
The trenchcoat is ok but I kinda wish she'd go back to her previous hairstyle she had in Mighty Avengers. I actually liked that look
>>77465079
Dreads are where it's at
>>77465079
Land pls go.
I do not understand how, by stating that America is NOWHERE NEAR AS FAST AS SHE IS, Monica is somehow getting buried.
Ultimates is still by Ewing, who is a fan of Monica (and by fan of Monica, I mean an actual fan of Monica from when she was Captain Marvel, not a fan of Nextwave or the Genis stole muh name meme).
>>77462969
>Do you think she'll ever get truly popular
She won't be in the movie, so no.
>>77465045
Elsa used to look like this before nextwave.
IDK man. Her personality is distinctively different to a lot of classic good guy supes, and her powerset is wild so should be really fun to experiment with visually.
But she is underused. Even this ANAD Ultimates feels like just chucking darts at the wall to see what sticks a little bit, but it has some potential. It reminds me very much of a comic idea I read on a blog called False Machine once actually.
>>77466570
Oh god she looks like Valkyrie
Netflix Nextwave series fucking when.
>hype about Ultimates
>Monica is basically shown as the least valuable member of the team and spends her section cheerleading for Miss America who is unbelievably incredible to her, despite having been a team leader of the actual Avengers
>Monica is a mid-30s/40s black woman born on Earth
>Miss America is a teenage latino born in a literal utopia with no discrimination, which she left to get her kicks fighting problems in other realities
I feel like Marvel had a really good angle for an undervalued minority viewpoint and some generation-gap politics stuff and instead they're just erasing Monica further in an ongoing via America Chavez.
>>77463829
I still don't understand it either. No disrespect to Carol's fans but the only time I enjoyed her was when she was still Ms. Marvel and a borderline right wing authoritarian character. I can't wait until she gives up the Captain Marvel mantle to Kamala or Teddy. (But it'll be Kamala because they still don't know how to write Teddy with out mentioning his relationship with Wiccan.)
>>77465079
Nah dude, that was land drawing a white woman and then painting her black
Monica is way cuter with the dreads
>>77465058
>>77468855
Someone mentioned it in the NA thread and now I really want Teddy to take the name SuperMarvel
>>77463655
They'd soon make her change to another name so there's no confusion with Aunt May
>>77463688
She's in the same team as Blue Marvel dude, and he's being well-written
>>77463910
So much of this.
>>77464687
In all fairness, Warren Ellis is a great writer.
>>77466570
So the beyond corporation dyed her hair when they messed with her brain and made her believe that she's british?
>>77468855
I'd hope it would be Kamala, otherwise we'd finally get a character worse than Carol to hold that name.
She was in Nextwave: Agents of Hate and she seemed over powered, yet hardly used her powers.
QUESTION!
I Just started back reading the Mighty Avengers run with Land, Monica refers to being a killer before hand and trying to get out if that phase.
What books was she recently in before that volume and when was she in that dark phase and in what books.
Thanks.
>>77472500
Nextwave
>>77472500
>>77472901
The answer is ALWAYS Nextwave.
>>77473138
What if the answer is her Ms.Marvel run
I hate the Nextwave costume it's so generic.
>>77473583
If she hadn't just gotten a new costume I'd say this redesign would work nicely
>>77462969
I hate how Marvel constantly references Nextwave, knowing full well that it hasn't put out anything even close to it in years.
Any time a Nextwave team member shows up, they reference the comic as if to say "See? Remember when our output wasn't entirely dogshit? My robot brain need beer ROFL"
>>77468788
Dude, they had like three pages together on which they hardly know each other. If anything they wank Monica who is still several times faster than America and could at any point snuff her like a candle.
If anyone looks superfluous, it's Black Panther.
>>77473836
>could at any point snuff her like a candle.
At no point is that evidenced. Black Panther gets his whole 'Stand down, Americans' moment - Monica got nothing in that issue.
>>77462969
>>Just worked as Miss America 's hype man in the first Ultimates book
It's been one bloody issue. Don't bust a tit, bro.
Also, I really wanna see these two butt heads in Ultimates. Also, if we just had Phyla-Vell here, and then had all three of them training Teddy Altman to be the future Captain Marvel, we would basically have the Marvel equivalent ofSteven Universe.
Phyla isPearl.
Monica isGarnet.
Carol isAmethyst.
>>77474114
I'd say Kamala could be his Connie, but lets be honest, Wiccan is his Connie.
Sorry in advanced for the slight Carol spam, Auntie Monica. I'll try not to let it happen again.
>>77473744
Has The Captain appeared anywhere recently?
>>77462969
At least she has appeared several times since Nextwave ended while the true breakout character of the book is MIA forever
I'm ashamed to say I only know her from Nextwave. I'd like to see more of her, but in non-shitty books. Hint hint Marvel.
>>77474718
Read Ewing's Mighty Avengers she was one of the best parts.
Ultimates is off to a shaky start but we'll see how it goes
>>77474822
But that would mean subjecting himself to Land's "art".
