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NEW COMMERCIAL
https://youtu.be/27TiaemuExo
>>77424948
neat crossover
>>77424893
Third for space is crazy
As promised, the latest Chewbacca issue.
>>77424987
good man
>>77424976
Why is he going to the wrong way?
Guy's just asking to be Vader'ed.
>>77424987
Hell yeah, been waiting for this.
>>77424987
>>77425026
>>77425001
Someone made a bet that the captain couldn't fly a ship backwards, as you can see, he won the bet.
Why do the new blasters in TFA look like leftovers from JJTrek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDd9EcJxnb4
Here's some more new footage other than the ABC preview.
>>77424831
Think about it this way:
In real life, everyone theoretically has the potential to become a buddhist monk seeking enlightenment. But few people become monks, and fewer still reach enlightenment. If you never become a monk you could say you were not destined to. If you do become a monk you could say that you were always meant to, it was always inside of you just waiting to come out.
So now think of these monks as characters in a story that's heavy on themes about destiny. For the sake of this story about destiny, what is the effective difference between every character being able to become a monk but not doing so for one reason or another, versus only certain characters having "monk-sensitivity" because they are destined to do so?
Now apply it to Star Wars. In this fairy tale about destiny, what is the effective difference between Han Solo being able to use the Force, but never doing so for one reason or another, and Han Solo straight up not being innately Force-sensitive to the point where he can tap into its power in a meaningful way?
>>77425063
A new kind of pottery maybe?
>>77425046
>Sarlacc'ed
add it to the Wook swear page
>>77425063
I think you just answered your own questionBut it's to make the First Order look 30 years more advanced than the Empire in the OT
>>77425046
>>77424966
Fucking Ackbar.
>>77425063
Do you mean how they look or how they fire?
Because they're literally the E-11 with the mag on the right now
>>77425101
>>77425101
Chewie, you're the best.
>>77425118
Does anyone here /k/ at all and can maybe recognize the weapons real life origin?
>>77425128
>>77425086
UPDATE THE WOOK
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>>77425151
>>77425148
Sterling
>>77425178
>>77425188
Thank you senpai
>>77425151
>The Larva eventually turn into poisonous beetles.
...Shit. Well, that's fucked up.
>>77425202
>>77425148
E-11 was based on the Sterling L2A3
The F-11D is just that with the mag and Hengstler counter now on the right hand side and with a different scope, handgrip/buttstock, and rear iron sight
>>77425188
Nothing beats just painting an MG-34 black.
>>77425225
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>>77425267
Wookiees are some noisy motherfuckers.
They just don't shut up.
>>77425230
Got it. I'm illiterate when it comes to guns though im not anti firearm. Thanks for the details!
>>77425287
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>>77425316
>Hulk Landscape!
>>77425331
>>77425355
>>77425381
>>77425400
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>>77425432
Cool droid design
>>77425455
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>>77425507
>>77425524
Thanks a lot, anon
>>77425524
Thanks for running but Christ, Chewbacca is the most nothing of the new comics.
>>77425524
Chewie is my husbando
>>77425556
It's pretty bare-bones and feels completely unnecessary, but there's something comfy about watching Chewie mucking around on a minor side quest
It's sort of like Chewie's appearance in TCW, it was needless but I can't hate it
imma lay some facts on you all
PT > OT
why? the effects in the OT are garbage! the PT has real swordfighting and yoda isnt some stupid ass puppet yo, hes a fucking high tech 3d model.
the effects of the OT are ltierally toys man. theres so much cool action and people being killed in the PT man, also jango. nobody watches these films for anything but the action anyway
>>77425623
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>>77425623
Here's your reply.
>>77425647
Where is this quote from?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PxLei2vdW0
discuss
>>77425118
Not those, no. The Resistance blaster rifle and the blaster Han gives to Rey in tonights commercial.
>>77425593
My feelings, too. Not every comic needs to be a huge plot-moving part of history. I like a cozy adventure every now and then.
>>77425647
>>77425650
whatevs you dumb
>>77425593
>Chewie mucking around on a minor side quest
It's his life.
>>77425683
cant wait till
>Rey is not luke's kid
and
>Plaguesis is not Snoke
fags get BTFO
>>77425683
not enough Poe
>>77425722
Rey isHan and Leia's kidaccording to the leaks.
>Post yfw: Ackbar says "ITS A TRAP!" in VII
>>77425754
If that's true, then why the fuck did they abandon her on Jakku?
>>77425791
To keep her safe.
>>77425791
I dunno,Kylo is their kid tooapparently. That's probably the weirdest and least explained part of the leaks, but they have been right about everything else, so...
>>77425825
Literally Jacen and Jaina.
>>77425841
EU fans will start masturbating in their seats if that turns out to be their names.
So uh, watching the latest episode, and I'm wondering something.
Is no one allowed to call out Hera for being retarded? She's bitching about needing to be there for the fleet, but her only plan is to keep throwing ships at the blockade even though she knows they're going to lose one of the only two(!) runners they have left. And for some reason Commander Asian agrees with her. Why? Is Hara just stuck being a boring-ass perfect character forever?
>>77425754
MSW has apparently backtracked on that. He was sure they were Rey's parents, but now he's not so sure.
>>77425869
Nobody expected a starfighter to have a superlaser man.
>>77425871
Yeah, from what I can tell the most recent stance on this is:
-Kylo isa Solo
-Rey's likely to be part of the Skywalker family, but MSW isn't sure if she's a Skywalker or a Solo
>>77425918
How does that have to do anything with what I posted?
>>77425869
It's Star Wars. Everyone is an idiot.
>>77425926
I've noticed he stopped saying "by the way Kira is her real name" which he used to go out of his way to remind readers. Maybe it really was just a production codename and never intended to be part of the story,
>>77425871
Rey herself confirmed she's Solo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyvjHHMLeKY
>>77425683
>Stormtroopers with Electrostaffs
pretty good
>>77425961
Not him, but wow you must be pretty dumb.
>>77425996
I think it's a riot stick.
>>77426018
I'm talking about before she gets the B-Wing, dingus. When she's talking about throwing blockade runners at the blockade as if they had the resources to justify those kinds of ridiculous losses.
>>77425961
There weren't any other options THEN SUDDENLY SUPER MAGIC PROTOTYPE FIGHTER THAT SOLVES EVERYTHING
Their only choice was to sacrifice themselves to get those people food originally. That's actually how real blockades were tackled, you either fought a small war to destroy the blockade (as shown) you sneak through (not possible) or you ran the blockade as shown.
>>77426070
Again, you're really dumb.
>>77426095
>>77426111
Or they could tell Hera to fuck off because obviously the losses are too high. What's more important, the existence of that rebel cell that can keep fighting the Empire or one starving populace that is apparently so small that they can feed all on their own with a single supply drop? Just how small is this settlement they're so gung-ho about helping? At the very least the commander should have questioned whether it was worth it. You guys want to call me dumb? If you're saying this plan made any sense in to any actual tactician, you're both retarded.
>>77426165
Are you in the right thread?
>>77426170
Oh, you're just trolling.
>>77426170
Nobody take this bait.
>>77426188
No, no I was not.
>>77426170
Sorry, civilians always come first.
>>77426209
No worries. Get out while you still can. /swg/ is getting worse all the time.
>>77426198
>>77426207
>>77426214
Am I on bizzaro /co/ tonight? I get that it's a kid's show but holy shit, I don't think I've ever seen them be this outright stupid before. You all know this kind of idiocy wouldn't fly on Clone Wars.
>>77426241
>The trolling part 2: Troll Harder
>>77426271
>the troll calls others trolls
Truly the most subtle art.
>>77426241
>I'll take the ryloth arc of TCW for one response, Alex
>>77425623 Prequels were different types of movies to the OT. GL once said "Never make the same film twice" Hence why the prequels aren't the copy paste OT fanboys wanted. The dialogue is just as cardboard as the OT sometimes awkward but it matters little because it's supposed to feel like a golden age pulp sci fi fairytale with cheesy dialogue and unrealistic romance. People just don't get this. It's great escapism and I love the way george tried to capture classic cinema, especially in episode two with a shitload of movie references a film buff like me loves. The prequels are movies movies. And so are the originals. I love them both for that warts and all. I can still understand not everyone wants "their star wars" to be like them but it's a big universe and respect has to be made for the things they added to the lore and feel of the saga at the very least.
>>77426308
Nah, they're just Hera-fags. Truly the worst of the fandom. Zero taste. Probably Plagueis-lovers too.
>>77425926
>>77425979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKLanph2ujM
Overwhelming evidence points her toward being a Solo IMO
>>77426308
>Trolling part 3: Attack of the Troll
>>77426170
>What's more important, the existence of that rebel cell that can keep fighting the Empire or one starving populace
They fight the Empire to keep populaces from starving and if they did quit helping those in need and did nothing to help people, the public would have seen the rebels as terrorists that only want to fight the Empire. The Rebels need public support and them not helping people would paint them as nothing more than agitators.
But yes, Hera did need some calling out on her plans, they weren't working.
>>77425918
>starfighter to have a superlaser
How are they going to justify this? Are all B-Wings going to be equipped with this now, or just the super prototype? I'm pretty sure the old B-Wings were heavily armed but didn't have anything like this.
>>77425869
Are you stupid or a troll? That's how you handle a real blockade
>>77426394
Not
>The Phantom Troll
>Attack of the Trolls
>Revenge of the Trolls
Shit at least do it right.
>>77426419
It's just a prototype.
>>77426419
These aren't the EU B-Wings, buddy.
>Maz Kanata is 1000 years old
That's it. That's the key to the Old Republic.
>mfw msw said nothing about finn using the saber at maz's castle
there missing really important details probably.
>https://instagram.com/p/6puNsxFE1e/
>tfw in training for the part of Rey, Daisy found that lifting and working out in general make her feel really good and has since incorporated it into her lifestyle
Perfection
>>77426501
>Yet another ancient Jedi that survived the purge
Goddamn. So long as you weren't in the active temple registry you just got ignored by Palpatine, eh? I guess that's fair, right?
>>77426419
mass produced B-wings are probably going to lack the big bad laser. Quarrie did say they could carry proton torpedoes. Whatever powers it would probably be too expensive to mass produce
>>77426553
I don't think she's a jedi. Just a pirate with a long lifespan.
>>77426419
They will have it, but yes, this is a prototype. We never really see the B-Wings in action in RotJ so this is perfectly acceptable. Makes sense that they can take down Star Destroyers. Their laser is basically a larger version of the Gunship lasers
>>77426553
She's not a Jedi
>>77426553
>"I have lived long enough to see the same eyes in different people."
This line makes all the more sense. Looks like she's more or less the new Yoda
>>77426369
>overwhelming evidence
>posts a video of two dorks going "it says Kira on this plaque, SOLO CONFIRMED!"
Okay
>>77426569
Yet she happens to know a lot about the Force and have special Force-eye powers?
>they have “special meaning and power”
>>77426432
And he says that using the super laser kills the hyper drive. So that gets scrapped from the project
>>77426569
>>77426581
She has dialogue in the recent trailers hinting that she's knowledgeable of the Force and/or versed in its ways. Certainly trained in it
>>77426420
Not when you have to blow 50% of your resources doing it, idiot.
The obvious option is not to do it and save your resources for a better operation. Shit, do you think the Rebels should jump into the core and try some retarded plan there, too? Because they're the good guys?
>>77426613
You have to be a retard to think that's all we have.
![Qui-Gon+Jinn+smiling+sjhg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Y0aZ9Uo.jpg "Qui-Gon+Jinn+smiling+sjhg[1].jpg")
>>77426547
It's a Jedi trick.
>>77426639
I'm gonna be blunt, you simply don't have the intellectual capacity to understand this. It's time for you to go.
>>77426648
You'd have to be a retard to say "overwhelming evidence" and then post a video that's grasping at straws, but here we are. At least post something better than that.
>>77425249
this chick has a serious case of tumblr jew nose in this panel
>>77426648
>we
Is there a retarded fanboy hivemind out there now? Even the Sonic fandom can't claim that much.
>>77426633
She'll turn out to be a Jedi Pirate and what Hondo said was in fact a nod to that since they have all sorts of inside info.
>>77426675
Considering you haven't managed to cough up a decent counter-argument, I suggest you stop huffing glue and do something productive with your brain. Like letting it fire more than five synapses at a time.
>>77426687
You're just ignorant and out of your element here, we have had quite a few things over the past year pointing toward her being a Solo. Nobody is going to play catch up with you.
>>77426633
Yeah, but Force =/= Jedi.
She could easily be from some long-dead force user sect.
Canonically, we know of four force-using groups
Jedi
Sith(formed from Jedi during the Hundred Year Darkness)
Dagoyan Masters
Nightsisters(at least partially used The Force)
There is also the Force Priestesses and the Force Wielders from Mortis.
>>77426692
>>77426687
>>77426718
Damn, you're one dedicated troll.
>>77426726
A lot of circumstantial stuff and speculation. Nothing concrete. Even Jason Ward has started to doubt she's a Solo.
Is it possible? Yes, it is. Is it anywhere close to confirmed? Nope.
>>77426758
Could be JJ spreading misinformation. I felt like there were several parts of the leaks that were oddly vague, especially the phrasing.
>>77426747
This might be the worst troll I've ever seen. I'm going to say 13 years old. Maybe 16, but only with autism.
>>77426746
That's true. I'd forgotten... somehow. Even though my oft explored non-Jedi Force sect are the Jal Shey
>>77426758
That interview alone should be enough to clue you in. Why would her being solitary be a clue to her identity other than Solo? You know Luke wasn't solitary.
>>77426780
Did you come here to shit on the Star Wars in general? Do you hate "nerds" or something? What's the deal?
>>77426816
Just you, anon. Just you.
>>77426799
>Solitary? Like... Solo?
>OMG CONFIRMED UPDATE THE WOOK
Let me guess, you also think her amused shrugging when asked about Plagueis is concrete proof that he's in the movie?
>>77426841
He must have a really vicious, straightforward style due to the design of this thing. You can't really do all the fancy stuff.
Really looking forward to seeing it in action.
>>77426847
Apparently Abrams denying Plagueis is in the movie counts as solid confirmation.
Hell, even Pablo Hidalgo has started making him of the Plagueisfags on twitter.
>>77426876
Probably just cleaves with it.
>>77426847
Nobody thinks Plagueis is in the movie except dumb EU fans.
>>77426847
There's been something like 6 things pointing toward her being Solo since TFA stuff started coming our way. Maybe you're just clueless about all of it, but that's just you.
>>77426883
No, no, Darth Plagueis isn't in TFA. What happened when Kasdan tried to answer the question?
>"Darth Vegas?"
>"H-HE'S JUST KIDDING!"
Why would Abrams want us to think he's kidding? Because Kasdan gave away a huge spoiler.
DARTH VEGAS CONFIRMED
>>77426841
>Kylo Ren's unusual lightsaber is an ancient design, although the one he carries is recently constructed.
Interesting...
>The crossguard blades, or quillons, are raw power vented from the primary central blade
HA. Fucking finally, I've been saying this forever
>>77426920
No, he's a fan of the band so he was confused for a second.
http://www.darthvegas.com/
>>77426341
Go to bed, George.
>>77425755
>>77426953
Darth Vegas will appear in The Force Awakens... AS DARTH VEGAS!
>>77426233Keep it quiet
>>77426341
I don't need to sleep I'm a billionaire goddamnit!
>>77426565
You know what the big problem with this argument is? It is completely backwards.
That 1 B-Wing in one shot was able to do more damage then a squadron of B-Wings firing Proton Torpedos.
So for the cost of 1 super B-Wing, you have 11 less pilots (saving manpower and money to pay them), maintenance supplies, manpower for maintenance, fuel, ammo for Proton Torpedoes (and that there alone is huge).
It cant be THAT expensive because this guy on a backward planet developed it so its not like a huge corporation is needed for this thing and you obviously dont need a big power source sense you can fit it in a single B-Wing.
Fuck the B-Wing, this laser is FARRR more important and should be mass produced on corvettes.
>>77426622
Who gives a shit if it can hyperdrive. TIEs cant either, attach them to the Corvettes like you see the A-Wings do or make pocket carriers.
The episode was idiotic because that 1 laser is literally more capable then an entire wing of B-Wings, definitely cheaper, and far easier to use.
Rewatched episode 3 with friends today and gad a blast.
Why us Sheev so amusing?
>>77427413
They probably find out it has like a 25% chance of backfiring or something, and Hera just got super lucky.
New TV Spot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27TiaemuExo
Fucking hell this movie looks brilliant. If Finn is the jedi I'm going to see this film so many times.
>>77426341
Sheev is cheesy. Anakin and Padme are cheese flavored product
>>77427465
spoiler: finn dies
>>77427434
It would need to be something massive like that ya. Even then I feel like the Rebellion would be more then willing to deploy at least a few of them (the more suicidal cells at least) but that would explain what the main reason is they dont use it for.
To bad that isnt stated at all so fans are forced to make up crazy head canon to explain it away.
>>77427492
more fucking rebellion? wasnt the war like fucking over in return of the jedi? cause you know, that's what happened.
>/tv/ chimpping out
>again
>>77427465
msw spoilers said nothing about finn using the saber as maz's castel. there are probably some pretty big holes.
>>77427485
>>77427513
I want this jacket to wear the premier. Where can I get it??
>>77427465
Reminder we have more footage coming tomorrow during Girl Meets World
>>77427413
>>77427492
I'd personally go with "burns out major components after a handful of shots."
They only brought up the hyperdrive drain, but there could be plenty of other major problems on Quarrie's list of necessary "adjustments."
>>77427567
WHAT TIME?!
>>77427587
8:30 pm EST
What annoyed me about the latest episode of Rebels was how we suddenly got all this character background out of the blue. There was zero indication in past episodes that Hera had had some dream of flying ever since she was a child, but then suddenly exposition. That sort of thing needs to be hinted at and built up over the course of the show. You can still have your background dumping speech, but you have to at least imply earlier that such a speech is possible.
Kallus realising how fucked they were when the B wing flew straight at them though was pretty good. Also Hera's lekku physics.
>>77427513
Heh.
>>77427512
What? You know the Galactic Civil War had battles before and after the Battle of Endor?
Battles that had the super B-Wing (or more precisiely the super laser, who gives a shit about the B-Wing when you have that laser) could have allowed the Rebel Alliance to give the Empire a solid ass beating in any battle.
What do you mean by "more Rebellion"? We are talking about the soon to be and later the Rebel Alliance
No the war was not over in Return of the Jedi, the war continued a few months later. Even so how does that change the fact that the Rebellion could have used this laser before and during Endor.
And as stated, the war did not end at Endor, it continued for months afterwards (in new canon at least) which doesnt change the fact it could have been useful during and before Endor
>>77427583
A fine idea, anything more then 2 shots could be crippling to a dangerous degree for the pilot and machine. The problem is that it is not listed so the only down side the show presents is "It cant hyperdrive" which the show immedietly shows that is a "well who gives a shit" problem.
To make any sense of why we never see the laser again we need to make up things that are not mention at all to explain it.
>>77427660
If I was Quarrie I would be even more put off by the fact that this woman made up a war backstory/speech right on the spot just to try to persuade me to get my ship.
It's super cheesy. But somehow, it worked when it shouldn't have. Kind of like Hera's lekku physics.
>>77427660
Eh, they've been doing that with everyone so far. It's the price to pay for contained episodes instead of the multi-episode arcs from TCW. Remember how natural Kanan's grievances with clones came across in the Seelos two-parter because they had more time to go over it. Zeb being one of the last of his kind and Sabine's past on Mandalore got similarly brief mentions as Hera's last episode exposition as a small shot at developing them more. I really wish the episodes were longer. Remember Justice League having hour-long episodes? Even when they were bad episodes, I loved having so much time to experience them.
>>77427746
Well, Kanan's clone-hate was also easy to fit into our existing knowledge of Order 66 and RotS. But I know what you mean.
This is the year I watch the Holiday Special in its entirety
>>77427831
Have something else to watch/do during the agonizingly long song and dance numbers. It takes up a good third of the special.
>>77427660
Well she did say to Kanan that the clones/republic saved billions of lives including her own in the The Lost Commanders.
>>77427513
I'm actually looking forward more to this than Finn vs Kylo, strangely enough. I really wanna see what Finn's got on a relatively level playing field.
>>77427938
This is probably what causes the "oh shit" moment
>come get some punk, I fought those riot guards and kicked their asses, you want a piece of- OH FUCK FUCK ABORT
>>77427938
He'll briefly fend off Kylo before Kylo easily takes the upper hand and stabs him.
My guess based on all the trailers/teasers/tv spots so far and artwork on a collectors cup for a theater.
>>77427846
The only one remotely entertaining is the Bea Arthur one, and even there the sheer novelty of Bea Arthur being in it has worn off by the time it starts.
>set a blockade in a planet
>only a few Impy ships
>rebels go right through them instead going around them or at least go from it from the other side of the planet
>>77427660
>Kallus realising how fucked they were
He had some great faces this episode. From super smug to ruh-roh, I dun goofed.
The rest of the episode was pretty bad.
>>77428202
Why do people not know hoe Hyperspace works? The blockade was on that side of the planet because it was either the only or most likely place the rebels would appear out of Hyperspace. Hyperspace travel requires you use predictable lanes of travel so you don't die slamming into an asteroid or blow up in a star. And the blockade can intercept any attempts to go around them.
>>77428252
Not that guy, but the rules of Hyperspace have never been explained in detail to us in both TCW or Rebels.
>>77428252
Why not make a temporary hyperspace tunnel that they can collapse? You lack imagination, anon.
>>77428252
I think the big problem is that we only see 5 ships. Doesnt really give the feeling of a blockade when we compare it to say TPM where the planet is surrounded by battleships.
Maybe if there was 5 ships at each possible point of entry but we dont really see that (because it aint practical)
Maybe they could have said "can we go around?" "No, this is the only hyperspace lane we can reach from our sector
>>77428097
>and stabs him.
Probably not. He'll get close to that, but Rey will likely intervene just in time
>>77428270
Neither have VTOL spaceships, blasters, sound in space, deadly asteroid fields, or the Death Star laser. At some point, just assume there's a scifi reason for why something is happening the way it's happening.
>>77428288
and you racka disciprine.
>>77428305
Yeah, they could have said it. But remember, it's 5 ships and a bunch of TIEs against 2-3 ships and some A-wings. Kallus was lucky the Rebels only had such a small fleet available at the time.
>>77428270
It was literally explained in ANH, by Han
>>77428288
If the Rebels had that capability, the war would've been over before we reached ANH. Hyperspace doesn't run on Mass Relays, anon. You can't just will new lanes into existence. You can discover hidden hyperspace routes, like Han did with the Kessel Run, but that can take a while.
>>77428358
Exactly what my issue with it being a "blockade"
I wish they simply called it something else. Simply an Imperial Task Force keeping order (or punishment)
>>77428399
Speaking of which, I wonder if the Nexus Route will ever come up again
>>77428288
It's not the Warp, dummy. Hyperspace is traveling really really fast along predictable, safe parts of space, not going through another dimension. You need to carefully calculate routes that don't slam into debris, asteroids, stars, planets, and other ships. It's the same space you started in, you're just running through it really quickly.
>>77428358
Even so, I could see that blockade working if the Arquitens was fast enough. SW ships are decent sublight speeds, IIRC in ANH the X-Wings travel the distance from Yavin-4 to the Death Star in under fifteen minutes (like, under five minutes probably). The A-wing is much faster, and the Blockade Runner likely has some serious power for a ship it's size (is that a capital ship).
On the Imperial Side, I think we could assume that while Tie Intercepters weren't a thing yet, Tie Fighters could either launch from the planet's surface or disembark from other ships in time to meet the Blockade Runner (assuming Ties and X-Wings have equivalent speeds, which I'm primarily basing on the OT).
The Arquitens, which I don't know whether or not that model is particularly fast, had a great spread of fire and decent positioning. With SW speed, I think it's possible for five mid-size cruisers to form an effective orbital blockade to prevent any other mid-size cruiser from sneaking through. Feel free to prove me wrong, I think my argument's all sorts of shakey.
IIRC the Trade Federation in TCW achieved similarly understaffed blockades with 3-5 capital ships, but those CIS suckers were huge and often had carriers with thousands of droid fighters in them. You could easily cover all access points from orbit with those.
>>77428371
Key word in detail. Han never said anything about the possibility of coming out of Hyperspace early and and flying around a planet to evade enemy ships.
>>77428421
It still fits the definition of a blockade. Any other official name would just lead to the Rebels calling it a blockade because it's that kind of obstacle.
>>77428427
Come to think of it, they never resolved that, did they? Tarkin knew half of it and Ahsoka knew the other half, and both had instructions to only give it to Palpatine/Jedi Council. Yoda said he would talk to Palpatine about it, but we never saw what happened with that.
>>77428460
Knowing Yoda and Palpatine, I figure they probably agreed to keep the information separate for the sake of security, so neither of them would have the full information.
Of course Palpatine put "get the other half of the coordinates from Anakin's shitty little brat" on his to-do list, but given how long it is it probably would've been a while before he got around to it.
>>77428448
I think an implied explanation was that it would be too hard for the ship's computer to figure out exactly when to jump, so you'd mostly have to pull out a jump blind. This is mostly guesswork though, because I think somebody does this in either Rebels and TCW and they come out mostly fine (if extremely disoriented).
On the flip side, we saw what happens when you hyperspace jump at random in TCW and you end up in some ass end of the galaxy.
>>77428449
I don't get why people would object to the use of the term "blockade". It's a blockade, just a small one with less ships.
>>77428449
I guess technically. It is just weird consider TPM, like you really expect people to believe these 5 frigates are doing the same job as the countless battleships we saw in TPM?
Just weird
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>>77428489
Since we knew the Battle of Coruscant would've eventually been touched on towards the end of the show, I think the Nexus route would've eventually played a key part of it, with Sidious finally getting the full coordinates and giving them to Grievous so he could launch a surprise attack.
>>77428427
>>77428460
>>77428489
>>77428522
Time to tweet Pablo.
>>77428460
It can be inferred that Palpatine likely got both halves in the end and gave them to the Separatists, for the impending Battle of Coruscant. It's the only way to really explain the overly massive Separatist invasion fleet pockmarking the skies as they did, as well as the swiftness in which they kidnapped Palpatine.
The Jedi, knowing that the knowledge of the Nexus Route was supposed to be safely secure with Palpatine, likely launched their investigation of Palpatine's dealings in response, concluding that the Separatists wouldn't have been as successful as they were without that knowledge. If there were a chance that knowledge were comrpomised, the leak would have come from Palpatine's office.
Course, this wasn't explained in the movie, but I feel Obi-Wan and Anakin's briefing regarding the importance of the Nexus Route does a good enough job of putting things together.
>>77428571
It would have made a cool TCW episode, where Yoda or somebody begins having suspicions and investigates. Or if somebody actually figures it out and gets Sheev'd before they can warn anybody else.
Finn and Rey are Force-sensitives. Enough, people.
>>77428599
That was actually the entire plot of Labyrinth of Evil. A damn good book.
The Republic gets proof that Darth Sidious is real and they begin a campaign to track him down. Eventually Palpatine is informed of this and realizes the Jedi are on to him so he plans the Battle of Coruscant as a disguse to make the Jedi believe that the kidnapping of Palpatine was actually cover to rescue Sideous.
The Intelligence officer and Clone Commando unit searching for intel make it all way into the Senate Tower (as in they confirm the Sith Lord is indeed a Senator) before they are killed by either Grevious or Sheev, not clear on who.
The book literally ends with Anakin and Obi-wan ordering their fleet to return to Coruscant as the battle is already underway.
>>77428599
Wouldn't have minded an aftermath of the battle episode - since they were apparently going to go through the events of RotS from multiple perspectives - showing the results of the battle, and the Jedi's growing concern over Palpatine's role in things. We'd see that Council meeting where they vet Anakin take on the responsibility of investigating Palpatine. This would amusingly be interspersed with the Palpatine's almost simultaneously vetting Anakin as his representative on the Council.
>the phantom now has a hyperdrive
Convenient.
>>77428690
The idea would be that Palpatine is onto the Council's growing suspicions, as it'd be natural knowing the battle would have been impossible otherwise. So, as a means of gaining insight into the Council's state of mind, and throwing a wrench in whatever investigation they might have cooked up, he vets Anakin, his closest friend and confidant, as his personal representative on the Jedi Council.
>>77428754
Except it always did? Hera takes it to meet Fulcrum that one time.
>>77428826
It didn't.
It always had to be dropped off.
>>77428826
Nah, it was installed just this episode.
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Is this the Legend of Korra of Star Wars?
>>77428891
No.
It is a worthy addition to it. I do hope it stops trying to go all wink wink nudge nudge with the TCW callbacks
>>77428536
>>77429055
You're right, Pablo is a evil and not to be trusted. His twin brother Paul is the one we should seek for true knowledge.
>>77425001
All the guns face forwards.
>entire fleet gets wrecked when they get flanked and shot to pieces because no ships weren't facing backwards
See what you did?
>>77426419
B-Wings were always capital ship killers. I like this version better than 'they just have a lot of torpedos and magic computer-driven lasers!'
>>77427413
>That 1 B-Wing in one shot was able to do more damage then a squadron of B-Wings firing Proton Torpedos.
How do you know? We've never seen B-wings do anything in the nucanon. Even their Devastator kill took place off-screen.
>>77427465
>TIE fighter can't even kill something a meter away
A Predator drone would have splattered them
>>77429355
At least one of them has Force Luck on their side, but possibly both.
>>77428202
The IDEA is that ships are fast enough to detect and intercept any approach.
>>77424966
Well, it is satisfying that TIE Fighters are no longer are armed with flashlights like in Rebels, but fuck, the 30-mm cannon on Apache helicopters has comparable effects on ground targers. Or the plot shielding of our politically correct MC pair deflected most of the blast, I don't know.
>>77428891
No, no, this has Filoni in it, not Bryke. Filoni made Avatar good.
>>77428500
>I guess technically. It is just weird consider TPM, like you really expect people to believe these 5 frigates are doing the same job as the countless battleships we saw in TPM?
Of course the real answer is fucking EU minimalism still going strong because thinking of plots where a team of 6 people can impact battles of proper SW-scale fleets is too hard and shit, so you are largely correct. But the Trade Federation fleet in the opening act of Ep.I was there as a political statement, not out of military necessity.
>>77429381
Bryke was thought to be good until he fucked up his next project massively. Is Filoni fucking up Rebels writing not the same?
>>77429405
The writing is literally the same
Look, I've been watching this shit from season one since I was eighteen, believe me, this has never been the Great Coruscanti Novel.
Currently watching Season 2 Episode 6, the droid factory on Geonosis.
Some of that stuff is pretty heavy for a supposed kids-show. Burning Geonosians on screen with flamethrowers? Daymn, boys.
Except for the very very shitty and truly terrible, not even remotely fitting lemur-two-parter I really do enjoy the whole series and from what you guys say, it's only getting better.
The occasional extreme stupidity is okay, even if some plots could be completely avoided with a single little force push or the like. But the Force isn't really that consistent in this series, so eh, whatever.
The Gozilla/King-Kong Zillo-Beast-episodes were hilarious and actually well done with some nice Sheev-parts.
Looking forward to the rest of the series.
Tripfag, out.
>>77429414
It was never this childish and jobby though. It was always a kids show, sure, but they were never this bad about hundreds of shots missing everything all the time as the main characters literally stand in plain sight. Not to mention the plots never this predictable and obvious.
>>77429337
Because we know what B-Wings are armed with
their lasers are the going to do less damage then an X-Wing (3vs4 lasers), their Ion-Canon dont do damage, and they are armed with the same torpedoes X-Wings and Y-Wings are armed with.
Proton Torpedos arnt god killers. They always needed concentrated fire and a squadrons worth of fighters just to break the shields of an ISD. Forget about killing one. The thing about B-Wings is they could hold more Torpedoes as opposed to Y-Wings who could hold more to X-Wings.
So yes we saw this 1 B-Wing do more damage in 1 shot then what a squadron of starfighters should be able to do using Proton Torpedoes. (Lets not forget Proton Torpedoes cost money and have a limited supply of them)
>>77427689
>Battles that had the super B-Wing (or more precisiely the super laser, who gives a shit about the B-Wing when you have that laser) could have allowed the Rebel Alliance to give the Empire a solid ass beating in any battle.
Not really. That the super B-Wing managed to knock out an equivalent of a Coast Guard patrol boat in a single shot does not mean it would be more effective against ships meant to participate in actual frontline combat, like Star Destroyers, never mind Star Battleships. The role of fighters as far as could be deduced from films always had been mere support - swarm around the enemy fleet in hopes to exploit any small shield breach that bombardment from your own capital ship might create, like how happened with the Executor. Or fly special missions, as with Death Stars runs or boarding the Invisible Hand. In the only case when a fighter squadron is actually tasked with sinking a conventional capital ship (in TPM) they clearly were going to fail miserably if not for Anie's mad Force luck. In such cases, reliability of your weapons is more important than briefly giving greater sheer output that will bounce off shields of any significant target in any case.
>>77429431
Please, anon, I remember when everyone was complaining about battle droids and clones not being able to hit shit.
>>77429431
You never watched the original films? The storm troopers didn't hit shit then either.
>>77428358
>VTOL spaceships
REPULSORLIFTS
Seriously, magical kinetic vector generators solve everything
>>77429440
Clones and droids killed eachother a lot, but just the visual aspect of the battle aside, the whole crew never feels like it's in any danger of ever losing. Clone Wars had plenty of back and forths between the sides with lots of "victories at a high price".
>>77429453
Lots of the crew on the death star assault got butchered by Tie fighters, and I don't even mean Vader, I mean normal ties. And at least most of the time the crew has the decency to take cover and pretend like they're under fire. In Rebels, no one gives a flying fuck how much fire is happening. Kanan in the first episode steps out into live fire for like 10 seconds before pulling his light saber, Sabine spends the entire first part of the finale running around a place with like 20 storm troopers firing at her and still finds time to stop and taunt them.
>>77429453
He'll just go for the usual "b-but Vader told them to miss!" excuse which not only doesn't justify their poor aim everywhere else, but also doesn't really hold up when you realize that the minimal response to their escape was what let them get away, not every last trooper and pilot intentionally failing.
>>77429427
>Except for the very very shitty and truly terrible, not even remotely fitting lemur-two-parter
It seems to me that most of the complaints about that two-parter are based on either confusing presenting an idea with supporting it.
>>77428399
>You can't just will new lanes into existence.
NOTHING IS BEYOND THE FORCE! I find your lack of faith disturbing.
>>77429439
A patrol boat? At a minimum that thing was a destroyer. It was big enough to carry 4 TIE Fighters. This means it should have decent enough shielding that you would need anyone from 8-12 fighters to destroy it in one pass. (An ISD need 12 just to penetrate the shields, forget about serious damage)
Also The roll of starfighters is similar to WW2 Pacific theater fighting. A Single fighter is not a threat but a squadron of fighters armed with Torpedoes (see why they are called that?) is suppose to be a threat to the enemy ship. This is from the words of George Lucas, Star Wars was always WW2 in space. Just watch the way X-Wing fly or how similar the Falcon vs TIE fight in ANH is to a B-17 defending itself. Also they even say in the show that the entire point of the B-Wing is to destroy capital ships.
So we have the super laser that can penetrate capital ships (likely a frigate at minimum) shields and destroy said ship. Fire this laser a few times and you could kill an ISD in a few shots.
Meanwhile you need a wing of starfigthers to do similar damage? You are actually supporting my point, that the cost effectiveness of 1 super laser (forget the B-Wing) is so radically superior to Proton Torpedoes that it is straight up horrifying. The show radically fucked up and the only way to fix it is for fans to say stuff like "well maybe the super lasers has a 25% to blow up in the pilots face" otherwise that laser should be thrown on every ship possible.
>>77429484
It's just poorly presented. Tee Watt Kaa is an idiot.
>>77429484
It's not just the idea behind the episode. I understand that. It's the whole package.
The message is put together badly and in some parts the constant hippie-music in the background really distracts from what could have been a good scene.
The pacing is pretty weird as well and the only thing that I enjoyed about it were the Takei-parts. Truly enjoyable.
Why don't they just take Ibaar and push it somewhere else?
Here's a simple test. Tell me one time in Rebels where they go against the Empire and don't escape purely to luck of someone being a bumbling idiot on the Empire's side.
>>77428305
If they begin to justify everything that doesn't make sense the episodes would last twice as long, realism is the price to pay to have those space battle and space monks.
>>77429519
This episode.
They barely got away.
>>77429519
Their escapes were the will of the Force.
>>77429524
"No, pay no mind at all to that never before seen aircraft with unknown fire power! We can't spare a single ship to even try and stop it!"
>>77429545
I'm talking about the beginning of the episode.
>>77429055
Will he one day be able to drink his coffee without being interrupted ?
Well. I appear to have reached a horror/zombie-episode. With body-parts chopped off from moving corpses. That's gruesome and pretty well done.
I mean. Geonosian zombies and Clones in the dark. The script must have written itself.
>>77429522
Please, the problem here is a fix that takes almost no time to fix.
A single bit of dialogue at the end saying the laser is simply too dangerous is all you need. Or the laser destructed in mid battle and the engineer is unsure he can reconstruct it because it took trial and error and luck the first time.
If you want a better story (but more costly) you can drop the laser and focus it on the idea that the Rebel fleet simply lacks anyship good and killing capitals (A-Wings are terrible at that job) so an engineer could offer 4-8 B-Wings armed with their TRADITIONAL weapons (which they even mentioned they are armed with in the episode) and simply have them concentrate fire.
The fleet is happy because now they have something that could harm capital ships in a reasonable time, the intro to the B-Wing is satisfying that is saves the day, and everything remains lore friendly
>>77429484
It is not usually fun to deal woth a character who is a stubborn moron
>>77429437
So what? A proton torpedo bombardment would have offed those light cruisers too.
And B-Wings aren't well-armed because of their number of laser cannons, it's because they're the size of a freighter and can put more power into their guns.
