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Tom King writes Hal Jordan.
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Hal is the god of hamburgers
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>>77384228
All Hail the Hamburger God.
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>I can make everything right

Would be the right time to remind him about Parallax, I would think
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>>77384363
So did that Lost Army thing get cancelled by this or what?
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>>77384205
I think out of all the Darkseid War Tie ins, This one is probably the most decent of them all.
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>>77384422
Fuck knows when this story takes place, it would have to be even before the Relic arc for this to make sense
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>>77384363
It's called responsibility and it's still your choice what to do with it Hal you doofus
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This was amazing.
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>>77384363
>>77384458
I swore I wasn't gonna bother picking up any of the Darksied War tie-ins.
Damn.
Looks like I'm gonna have to go back on that promise.
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>>77384351
I really want King to write the main GL title, even though I'm enjoying Renegade Hal right now.
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>>77384205
Can Manapul just release every cover he draws as a print? They're so good.
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Thanks for the story time, OP!
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>>77384363
No Gods or Kings.
Only Dandy.
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>>77384541
This one and Shazam> other tie-ins.
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>>77384330
So he became Captain Marvel?
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>>77384330
And for reasons completely unknown to him, Sinestro got a raging stiffy in the middle of a Sinestro Corps meeting. he claimed that he was just very excited about the idea of a breakroom pinball machine.
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>>77384343
>Parallax
Hal was Parallax off-panel in New 52, right?
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>>77384363
This tie-in was good. thanks for the storytime
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>>77384205
I didn't read Darseid War, or Black Vortex, but they look like the exact same story
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>>77384205
I would just love this cover art as a poster or some shit. Looks good.

Storytime was good too op. I will be honest though, i haven't been keeping up with DC events lately. What is up with the Darkseid war stuff? any relation to the "Godhead" thing that happened earlier with green lantern? Is the event also any good?
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>>77384351
>>77384363
what a waste
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>>77384205
>Reminder that people won't buy this out of spite because it doesn't follow continuity
Why do people do this to themselves?
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Anyone know how these one shots are going to be collected?
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>>77384247
>Jewish Catholic Hal
Bueno
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>>77385579
in a trade
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>>77385324
Darkseid War has LightHal and Superdick. Black Vortex has Kitty wank.
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>>77384321
Why is he so perfect?
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>>77385883
>Random characters from a well established super team get cosmic power ups and themed new costumes
>the story is a cosmic story
>the story wanks a character with an overly annoying fan base
Kitty = Batman here
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>>77384668
It still happened, but they didn't do a New 52 retelling of it or anything

>>77385412
>What is up with the Darkseid war stuff? any relation to the "Godhead" thing that happened earlier with green lantern? Is the event also any good?
Darkseid War is Darkseid vs the Anti-Monitor with powered up JL getting caught in between

It's not really connected to Godhead

Godhead was alright
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>>77384668
green lantern didn't get rebooted after flashpoint
it just took off right where it left
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It wasn't even that good. Not much better than Batman or Flash.
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>>77385912
Batmanwank is Batmanwank. Fuck Jewish waifuism.
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>>77384337
>I can make everything right

Oh god, not again.
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>>77385989
Is Hal a Jewish waifu now?
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>>77385989
They are pretty on Par for annoyance factors and such.
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>>77384330
>>77384337
I love it

I want King to take over the main GL book so much it hurts ;_;
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>>77384306
>you will never comfort baby Hal
>adult Hal will never hold you
I don't want to live
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>>77384330
Ah, for a moment, I was worried they would have a Hal issue without Sinestro, but there he is~
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>>77384330
Is Lightray dead?
How the fuck does Hal become the God of Light?
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>>77385799
I am ridiculously pleased to have my head-canon become proper canon.
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>>77386111
Hal's jewish side was established during his Spectre run.
Now we know he is a jewish&catholic waifu.
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>>77386803
Ditto

>>77386839
Rebirth had him going to a confessional and saying he hadn't been in one since he was a kid, this is just King reconciling him being shown as Catholic and Jewish
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>>77386660
It's just not a proper Hal issue without a sudden Smugnestro appearance

>>77386777
His costume looks a lot like Lightray's, doesn't it
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>no idea of who tom king is
>read the visions, it's fucking fantastic
>now read this, it's fucking great too

what else has this guy done?
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>>77387451
Omega Men, and he co-writes Grayson
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>>77384431
Even better, before Sinestro ate Parallax, before the Third Army - because there's still the old dickish set of Guardians
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>>77387479
And just for fun Hal mentioned Godhead in the main JL book but Oa was also mentioned as still being around, so Hal in JL literally doesn't fit into continuity at all

>tfw it's God of Light Hal fucking with really so he can be part of the fun
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>>77387642
>really
reality, dammit
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>>77387361
Lightray is the god of Light
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>>77387903
I know, but Lightray himself is apparently not around

Although judging by how everybody else got powers Hal probably wasn't going to run into Lightray anyway, nobody else got empowered that way
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>>77384363
Johns must have really hated Endgame the way they've been building up this Batgod vs Joker confrontation for so long.
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>>77384337

Ah shit
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King is a fantastic writer, why'd he waste all that time in the CIA?
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> that Hal characterization
> that art

Why isn't this kind of quality in the actual GL title?
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>>77388660
Cause 9/11 happened
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>>77388660
So you could jack off to Harley Quinn porn before they put all superheroines in burkas
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>>77387451
Run out and read Omega Men and Grayson.
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>>77388804
>9/11 turns Frank Miller more insane
>9/11 takes away 10 years of Tom King we could have had
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>>77387451
>>77388868
This. You should make sure to check out the Future's End Grayson tie-in too - one shot story that stands completely on its own, but great script and afaik, the first he wrote.
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>>77388660
He's a good writer because he was in the CIA. He's gone through shit he wouldn't have hda to go through otherwise.

And for a guy who is such a huge comic nerd, are you saying he wouldn't be inspired to go out and help to the world after 9/11?

This is one of the reasons I love this dude, as a person. Being an actual good writer helps, too.
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>>77388922
Yeah, his first DC script on his own. I still remember listening to podcasts with him being so excited for it to come out. Back then, I assumed KGBeast would actually be reintroduced in the Grayson main series as a new villain for an arc or two. We got shit that was way better.
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>>77388965
Yeah, I agree, I was mainly joking. Though we don't really know what his writing would have been like 15 years ago.
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>>77384363
Damn Tom King is GOAT new writer. So glad DC is giving him an exclusive after Vision bombs.
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I like how Hal is the only to deny godhood, that's a pretty good moment for his character.

Would love King on a main GL book. I wonder if these tie-ins might be seen as a proving grounds for that.
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>>77384343
I was thinking, this is Parallax in the other direction.
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>>77389269
>Would love King on a main GL book. I wonder if these tie-ins might be seen as a proving grounds for that.
I desperately hope so, and I'm certainly not the only one
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>>77389397
Yeah this is basically "what if Hal had been mentally stable when he became Parallax"
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>>77384261
>Isn't that what God's supposed to do? Catch you when you fall
Once again Grant Morrison steps over as the Superior Writer.
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>>77389222
I sure fucking hope they do, because it seems all Marvel has done for the better part of the past decade is lure blossoming talent from DC, give them a niche book, lock them into an exclusivity contract then let them die on the vine. King has been great on everything he's done at DC, and especially after this, I'd love to see him be given GL to make his own, because Venditti continues to do nothing entertaining with it. DC just needs to step up and lock him in though, because other writers sucked to lose, but losing King costs me Grayson, and that'd hurt to lose.
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>>77384286
poor babby Hal ;_;
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>>77384337
>I can make everything right

here we go agai- >>77384351 oh, crisis averted
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>>77384363
King is GOAT, thanks for posting

>Hal didn't meet up with Lightray and have hot sex

only downside really
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>>77390083
>>Hal didn't meet up with Lightray and have hot sex

Hey man he was a god, he had time to do everything and nothing, including frot photon dicks together with him.
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>>77384286

poor hal ;_;
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>>77390131
Where's a writefag when you need one
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>>77389400
Same we need the King.
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>>77384363
Please give King Green Lantern DC. I loved the tie-in, thanks for storytiming.
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>>77388660

freedom aint free
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That's some weirdass Deistic theology coming from Hal, but it fits with his character so I'm not going to complain.
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>>77384351
>Hal renounces godhood after remembering the speech he gave to himself as a god pretending to be a man

...Okay?
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>>77384235
>Guardians

Nigga, what?
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>>77390131
He had enough time to visit himself as a kid, and technically you can't prove he DIDN'T bang Lightray

>>77390555
They're all hanging out in the gay thread apparently
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So uh hey what the fuck is happening in Darkseid War? Why is Batman a god now or whatever? Does this take place before or after the stuff that's currently happening in the Batman books?
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>>77389222
he needs to get exclusivity. DC would be fools to turn him away.

i mean shit they were ready to cancel omega men and fans of his writing rallied to get it going until #12. this guy is a real new talent that needs to be preserved.
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>>77390806
>Does this take place before or after the stuff that's currently happening in the Batman books?
Yeah, this is all happening before the current status quo in other books

Batman sat on Metron's chair, Flash became the Black Racer, Lex is taking over Apokolips, Superman got... stronger?, Shazam accidentally ended up with a new pantheon of gods supporting him
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Green Lantern > Shazam > Batman > Flash > Superman

How good do you think the Luthor Darkseid War tie in will be?
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>>77384235

>The Guardians, one of the most powerful characters
>Lanterns, have the most powerful weapon
>Get wrecked by Parademons
>The same Parademons that die with a Batarang

Fuck this gay Earth.
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>>77390806

this is happening beforehand
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>>77391246
Somebody really needs to sit down and decide how strong parademons are supposed to be

Although in this issue it says there are over a million of them and if they're in a frenzy or something I guess I can buy the GLC getting overwhelmed by that, but still
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Shaner posted a couple things on Twitter
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Lil Hal is so cute
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>>77391590
how is Hal so cute

and lust-worthy
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>>77391604
I need him and King on GL right now
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>>77387451
He also wrote A Once Crowded Sky, which is a novel I've been meaning to give a read of.
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>>77387451
He also has a Vertigo book called Sheriff of Babylon that's coming out in December
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>>77391630
It's his gift
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So... When do we get King & Shaner's Green Lantern Earth One series of OGNs?
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>>77392447
That would be great, especially since JMS got Flash Earth One

Unfortunately King needs to be a bigger name first
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>>77392447
Oh man that would be great

I really want these two and especially King to work on GL more
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>>77389222
I sure do hope so. I'd love to see him on DP or Metal Men - he's proven with Vision he's good enough for these already to me
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Bamp
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>>77384321
Good stuff.
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>>77384363
This is going up for my favourite issue of the year.
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>>77384286
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>>77384330
Is this man capable of writing something bad?
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>>77384363
> No demons. No gods.

That was pretty awesome.
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>>77384337
>I can make everything right
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>>77395092
If he is we have yet to witness it

This issue feels like a reward for putting up with Venditti GL for 2+ years
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In a parallel world, King and Shaner area already on GL.
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> green lantern corps jobbing to fucking parademons

fuck off DC
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I'm just glad it's not Kyle becoming God. Again.
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>>77396040
Well, when Hal showed up there were over a million of them so I think they just won due to attrition. If anything is jobbing it's the fucking Guardians not being able to handle some Parademons.
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>>77395990
Shaner's Hal is so cute I don't even know what to do with myself
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>>77396075
Yeah there were over a million parademons, they were outnumbered by like 150:1 and we saw Hal take out like five of them before his ring said he had no chance of success

They really shouldn't have drawn that Guardian there though
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>>77395092
Nightwing #30, maybe? I think he wrote that fight scene?

But that was also him being pressured by DC editorial to write the opposite of a funeral scene
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>>77396169

Nightwing #30 was really rushed, though.

>>77395990

I wish I was on that world, /co/

>>77396040

Darkseid's parademons once annihilated the GLC before, but that was back when they had the yellow weakness.
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>>77389222
Confirmed. Thank you based numbers gods.
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>>77396087
2cute
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>>77396169
It was his first DC work too. Who could have foreseen King becoming such a /co/ darling after back when that issue came out?
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>>77384587
GL > Shazam > Batman > Flash > Superman
Not having great expectations towards Luthor's considering Manapul is writing too
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>>77384290
This.
>>77384296
Is.
>>77384300
One HELL of sequence!

>>77390663
DC, for all that is right in the universe! Tom King is our creative savior for the GL mythos!
>>77394983
Absolutely...
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>>77399062
Especially since everybody hated NW #30 and the upcoming Grayson for that fighting section alone.
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>>77400517
I only started reading Grayson year, when did the opinion of King turn around? Did the Future's End issue win people over immediately?
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>>77400621
I think Grayson #1 won people over, although iirc it was mostly attributed to Seeley and it took a couple issues for people to come around on King

Can somebody explain why Nightwing #30 was so hated though? I didn't think it was a stellar issue but it wasn't the rancid garbage some apparently thought it was
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>>77400621
Yeah it was mostly when the Futures End issue and then #3 came out did people decide that Grayson and King are good.
Omega Men helped confirm people's opinions that King is good.

>>77400687
People didn't like Bruce and Dick's fight, or that Helena wasn't white as fuck, or that there were things left to be explained later.
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>>77400818
>People didn't like Bruce and Dick's fight,
I think King said he regretted that too.
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>>77384311
So noone comments on Hal talking to Hal in the past? /co/ ?
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>>77400621
Review sites hated the Futures End issue, because it was too clever for them, and people were trumpeting "DUR HUR DIDIO ALWAYS TRYING TO KILL DICK WTF"

By now reviewers have figured out that Tom King is much smarter than them
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>>77401407
Pretty good litmus test for reviewers, to see if they actually know what they're talking about or if they're following the herd tbqh.
I bet if it came out now, the reviews would generally be a lot more positive because King has a reputation now.
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>>77401407
>DUR HUR DIDIO ALWAYS TRYING TO KILL DICK WTF"
Can't believe how many people couldn't figure out that he didn't die.
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>>77401291
Is there much to say about it?

I mean I don't know if I'm supposed to read it as it being really depressing that Hal had to go comfort himself because nobody else knew the right things to say, but that's how I took it
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>>77401407
>By now reviewers have figured out that Tom King is much smarter than them
Yes I've noticed that some reviewers have adapted to him.

>>77401815
I can't believe how many people still believe he died
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>>77401815
I can't believe how many people think that Didio literally hates Dick and tries to kill him at every given opportunity just because he planned to kill him off once a decade ago (and changed his mind anyway)
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>>77402117
People hold grudges for a long time Anon.
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>>77402117
I think it's mainly a joke (at least, it is to me).
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>>77402117
>I can't believe that Didio trusts Dick to have a big enough fanbase to support an entirely new direction and to be by himself for a few issues!
>He must hate the character so much!
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So yeah, the whole "Darkseid's mother box that controls the parademons was attracted to the power in the battery on Oa as it searched for a new master" explanation is much, MUCH better than the "parademons were attracted to the brightest light in the universe" explanation.
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>>77384363
No demons. No Gods. Only Man...or Guardians and Green Lanterns, who have semi-godlike powers, but who cares.
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What are the odds have DC giving King the GL series? Surely they've got to after this right?
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>>77403044
well Venditti is on til at least 50 and it sounds like he has plans for more, but I guess DC could always boot him if they wanted him off

I would like to see King on the main book, or on Green Lantern Earth One, or SOMETHING GL related

I crave more of this Hal and considering how good Omega Men is I want him to have a crack at the GL mythos and broader cosmic DC
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>>77403044
Are you kidding? They probably think it's shit and will hand it off to some 'well historied' author who's writing because they've been writing.
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>>77403044
God, imagine how much Omega Men would be selling if they had called it Green Lantern: Omega Men
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>>77403253
It would still be selling under 20k desu

Lost Army was at like 22k in October
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>>77403280
Yeah, but Lost Army was bad
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>>77403548
We all know that quality has nothing to do with sales

although I am amused that Sinestro is outperforming GLLA now
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>>77403614
Well Lost Army was announced cancelled so quickly no one would want to buy it.
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>>77403673
It dropped before they said it was cancelled, although I'm sure cancelling what was obviously meant to be an ongoing and lying about it being a mini didn't help
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>>77403173
Omega men and Vision has a high possibility of being cancelled around that time.
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>>77403870
And Sheriff of Babylon is just a mini... He'll have some free time in a few months, it can happen ;_;
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>>77384363
So this was entirely fucking pointless.
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>>77403994
He said it might continue if it sells
hope springs eternal
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>>77404102
It didn't progress the main Darkseid War plot, no.

But it does give Hal cause to persuade Batman out of what he's doing, plus it's an excellent character piece for Hal and just a nicely put together book in general.
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>>77403870
Vision isn't selling?
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Did Omega Men get any sort of sales bump after it was uncancelled?
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>>77404177
Marvel is sending stores free copies of #2 to match their orders of #1
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>>77404190
Hopefully not considering how crap it was storywise.
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>>77404190
Nope.

>>77404177
I don't know if we have numbers for the first issue yet but Marvel's giving away free copies of the second issue to match orders of the first, that seems like a bad sign.
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>>77404190
It's not like people don't know about the supposed quality. They just don't want to buy it. Same as Prez really.
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>>77404252
wat
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>>77384363
>>77384351
I like how King gave the ring some personality of its own, while still being pretty subdued.
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>>77404403
>still no Aya in the comics
fucking why?
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>>77404475
Do you really want her in comics? She wouldn't be the same anon

Hal's been hanging out with a ship AI in recent comics, she's kind of like Aya's bitchier sister
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>>77404267
People on the Internet know about its quality. But it's still not going to sell because the average comic reader only walks into a comic shop to buy Batman or Iron Man. And most comic stores aren't even ordering the book, so most comic readers won't even know about it.

>>77404242
Every series has a big dropoff from #1 to #2. Marvel's just trying to keep copies of The Vision on the shelves, so that people who walk into the store can see them.
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>>77404596
>Every series has a big dropoff from #1 to #2. Marvel's just trying to keep copies of The Vision on the shelves, so that people who walk into the store can see them.
yeah but if the #1 had sold 50k and orders for #2 were like 30k would they really give away potentially 20k free copies?
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>>77404475
Because we have a superior Robot Lantern and his name is Stel.
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>>77404632
I'd imagine they would if they think they can milk its good reviews and turn it into the next Hawkeye.
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>>77404190
We won't know until sales for #6 or #7.

But I highly doubt it'll be any significant bump in sales. 3k at most.
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>>77404632
>would they really give away potentially 20k free copies?
If Star Wars keeps selling what it's selling, then yeah probably
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>>77404190
Nope. Fact of the matter is, no matter how much people will praise Omega Men inside out, Reddit and /co/ are going to trade-wait while tumblr is scared to read a book that tackles an actual serious issue like the fine line between freedom fighting and terrorism.
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>>77406356
I've also seen butthurt Kyle fans that won't read it because he's been sad for five issues and he hasn't one shotted anybody in a fight yet
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>>77406392
This fucking blows my mind. This is the best Kyle's been since his Ion mini and people are shitting all over it because muh power levels. And I hope the "sad for five issues" is hyperbole because if that's what's sticking in their craw then they really don't fucking deserve the nuance being put out in this book.
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>>77406442
They really don't deserve it

I think New Guardians damaged his character more than it improved it and Omega Men is fixing a lot of the things I hated about him in NG and sort of refreshing his motivations and background while also giving him a damn good and unique experience and role to play in the book, this is the best he's been in years but wahhhh he's not stronger than everybody else now, I don't like it!

I've also seen people who think he's going to be pulling some kind of keikaku on the Omega Men and then kicking everybody's ass later, these people don't deserve the good writing they're scorning
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>>77384363
I haven't read anything new from DC since that travel foreman jl, and zero green lantern since johns, but this was an absolutely incredible take on the character and theology. Is tom king like this all the time? And is shaner doing more work for dc?
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>>77406959
>Is tom king like this all the time?
Basically

Omega Men deals with a lot of religious themes and it sounds like his upcoming Sheriff of Babylon will too

He's cowriting Grayson and it doesn't have similar themes but it's damn good

>And is shaner doing more work for dc?
Not that I'm aware of right now, but he drew Convergence: Shazam and that looked great
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>>77406959
His Omega Men book is pretty heavy on the theology aspect.
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>>77406487
Eh, the first half of New Guardians was pretty fun. I enoyed Captain Lantern and the Lanterneers. Though if it were up to me, I would have made each of the Lanterns liaisons for their individual corps to go out and solve the big issues.

Justin Jordan's run could have been good, too, if he focused more on the cosmic horror aspect of things rather than the Life Equation and Kyle/Carl (who thought this was a good idea?), but we got what we got.

Powerlevelfags are gonna fag no matter what you do, though. It just astounds me, though, that DC offers up prime beef and the majority of people who claim to be fans of the character jump on the fast food.

Kyle's shown a huge range of emotions, and yeah, he's trying to keikaku Primus. But Primus and Kalista are smarter than him and have a better grasp at strategy. Them limiting his contact to pretty much just Kalista and Primus is a classic conditioning tactic to foster Stockholme Syndrome. Get him on their side by showing the atrocities, but let him think that he's coming to this conclusion by himself by having people like Tigorr continue to be a shithead to him.
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>>77407082
Yeah, they're being quite effective in converting him to their side. Wouldn't be too surprised if he actually went along with their plan in the end and blew himself up thinking his sacrifice would save billions of people.
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>>77407082
>>who thought this was a good idea
Did that ever really come to anything? I think the last issue of New Guardians I read involved Sinestro trying to usurp the White Lantern power after his homeworld went kablooey.
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>>77407082
The first twelve or so issues when there were other colored Lanterns in there were pretty fun (although I hated the retcon about Kyle's origin)

I hated most of Jordan's run although the cosmic horror stuff could have been pretty great, if I didn't hate Kyle (and Carol) so much. Something about the way Jordan wrote him just completely grated on me and Carol acted like a completely different person (and I really fucking hated them hooking up)

Kyle's trying to wait and think and act in OM, he's not going to go I GOT CAUGHT ON PURPOSE AND I'VE BEEN PLAYING YOU ALL FROM THE BEGINNING! like I have seen some folks want. They're manipulating the fuck out of him from all sorts of directions and he's actually unsure of himself and not bursting with ass beating confidence, which again I've seen a lot of complaints about even though that's a trait that helps make him stick out from the other GLs and makes perfect sense for him

>>77407226
That was when Bedard was still writing, they actually started dating when Justin Jordan started writing and it was terrible
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>>77406392
Kylefags are the worst.

>Is okay with the whole Green Lantern Corps getting fucked over to make Kyle the one and only GL
>Complain when Hal Jordan becomes the main Green Lantern, even though Johns's run paved the way for multiple human Lanterns with multiple books
>Is okay with a mediocre book that makes Kyle the most special snowflake in the universe, even though his whole appeal was being an everyman
>Complain when a writer turns him back into a relateable everyman and makes him the most sympathetic character in a story with moral ambiguity
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>>77406487
Jason Todd fans are the same way. They hate Morrison's Batman run because Morrison used Jason as a villain (what a shocking development) and deconstructed the whole "sexy misunderstood bad boy" appeal.

Then they continue to buy a shitty RHATO series just because it makes Jason into some Mary Sue mystical wizard assassin who did nothing wrong
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>>77407142
I don't think he's gonna blow himself up. But the fact remains that Kyle, love him or hate him, is one of the strongest Lanterns to ever wield the ring. He's been carted around seeing the shit that the Citadel is doing to the Vega Sector and is starting to realize that the Omega Men may have a point. Add onto this that Kyle's one of the noblebrights who doesn't feel that bad about killing, kick him around like he's a fighting dog, and factor in that he may or may not be connected to the Source still, and that's a dangerous cocktail on your hands.

>>77407247
>(although I hated the retcon about Kyle's origin)
Why must you remind me of this pain? Trying to fit Kyle into the five year timeline was such a fucking mess. It was weird seeing him as a trainee rookie lantern.

> I GOT CAUGHT ON PURPOSE AND I'VE BEEN PLAYING YOU ALL FROM THE BEGINNING!
...Did they not read issue 4? The Citadel set him up and took his ring.

>which again I've seen a lot of complaints
...That's the point of Kyle, though. Ever since the 90's he's been the guy who's always second-guessed himself because he lucked out on getting the ring, and every step forward has blown up in his face. Yeah, he can be happy and confident, but that's his personal life. As a hero, he was the king of self-doubt.
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>>77406959
>Is tom king like this all the time?
More or less. Every time he puts out a one-shot (Grayson: Futures End #1, Darkseid War: Justice League #1) or a new issue (Grayson #3, Omega Men #1, Vision #1), the Internet collectively loses its mind at how good it is.

He's very good at deconstructing characters using their flaws, and then reconstructing them into better people in spite of those flaws. It makes for some very eye-opening takes on old characters.
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>>77407321
The problem with Kylefags these days is the same thing wrong with Halfags: They've only read the Johns/Tomasi era of Green Lantern. And, hey, while it was great, the prior volumes were vastly different in terms of scope and how the characters handled things.

They see Kyle as the big-ass godling from his times as Ion and forget to remember the shit that was going on in the background. Kyle was amazing as a cosmic entity, but the draw, for me, at least, was watching his life unravel as he got lost in the power, and what powerlevelfags don't realize is that continuing on like that isn't sustainable, for any character.
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>>77407412
>...That's the point of Kyle, though
I'm guessing they like the idea that he's stronger than everybody else and more special than everybody else and just generally better than everybody else, they basically had that in NG and now it's gone so they're pissy about that, instead of appreciating the return to the everyman roots and the actual good character work
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>>77407495
>what powerlevelfags don't realize is that continuing on like that isn't sustainable
I intensely hope that when Omega Men is done he goes back to being a GL

White Lantern Kyle is like a summary of everything I dislike about him
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>>77407447
>He's very good at deconstructing characters using their flaws, and then reconstructing them into better people in spite of those flaws. It makes for some very eye-opening takes on old characters.
I've seen a lot of people on other boards commenting that they don't normally like or care about Hal but that he was great in this issue
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>>77407579
Not gonna lie, I was hype as fuck about White Lantern Kyle, and even about the implications of the Life Equation power up. But then they went full retard with it.
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>>77407586
Yeah, I've seen a few say that this was the best Hal story in a decade.
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>>77407610
it could have been interesting but the shonen training arc leading up to it was retarded and they proceeded to do absolutely nothing worthwhile with it and it was pretty much just entirely powerlevel wank

just... just get rid of it
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>>77407623
I love Hal and I'm inclined to agree
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>>77384321
Hal Jordan taking the power of a god? Surely everything will turn out well!
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>>77407778
And it did!
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I am so glad Hal's getting some decent shit again. GL got way too cluttered. I don't think they ever should've gone past two Earth GLs alive at a time.
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>>77407814
>Hal gets god power
>Wants to fix everything
>Nothing bad happens
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>>77407374
This. He's had shitty writing outside of the that Morrison arc (not even Morrisonfag) but they hate that because he was ugly.
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>>77384325
Who the hell is Bruce Wayne?!
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>>77407447
>He's very good at deconstructing characters using their flaws, and then reconstructing them into better people in spite of those flaws. It makes for some very eye-opening takes on old characters.
And this leads to a vocal portion of their characterfags hating him for it.
See: Kyle and Dick.
Not sure if the trend holds true for Vision yet.
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>>77409242
Visionfags are probably used to him getting shit on
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I'd almost forgotten what a joy Hal is when he doesn't come off as depressed and miserable all the time

Thank you based King
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>>77409242
There were a lot of people hating the Vision book before they read it because, "DUR HUR HUR I WANT A COOL ASSKICKING SUPERHERO VISION NOT THIS STUPID FAMILY STUFF!!!"
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>>77411802
>"DUR HUR HUR I WANT A COOL ASSKICKING SUPERHERO VISION
Replace Vision of Dick and Kyle, and you get their character fags too. Real stupid, it's up there as the best writing the characters have ever had, and tons of fans hate it for the fact they aren't in just another bland superhero kicks ass book.
And I say that as a Dickfag, so I know not all characterfags are like that, just there are some vocal idiots who have been annoying me.
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>>77409242
>And this leads to a vocal portion of their characterfags hating him for it.
Don't remind me.
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>people want Tom King's Vision to fail just for a DC exclusive
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So hey, anyone want to storytime Omega Men? This thread makes it sound like the best thing since slice bread, but until now I simply thought it was an above average cape book and therefore ignored it. If no one wants to do it though that's fine, I will still probably check it out later.

I remember skimming the first first issue when it came out. Did it end with a Spinoza quote? I remember reading a quote from him somewhere recently that got me ino his political writings, but I can't for the life of me remember where. If it was OM, King has my eternal gratitude, because it's genuinely good shit I would never have read otherwise.
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>>77412461
But I don't want it to fail but I know it's just gonna get cancelled and relaunched anyway
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>>77412556
I want this, too. I've yet to read Omega Men.

Also the book is very much about that kind of stuff, at least that's what I've heard. Politics, religion, terrorism/resistance, etc.
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>>77412579
Fine, I'll admit Vision's a stealth mini.
Doesn't mean it isn't the best ANAD book out yet.
Also, if it gets cancelled I doubt Marvel would relaunch it, Vision's over in ANAD Avengers, granted I don't think I saw him anywhere in issue one except the cover.
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>>77412556
Nope, I think Omega Men mostly uses William James quotes

I can maybe storytime it today but I'm not sure if I'll have time
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>>77413287
What a qt
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>>77413287
>fanart already

wew, Japan is fast
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>>77413367
It sure is.
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>>77413367
I remember this got made and posted like 10 hours into the first Grayson storytime
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>>77412461
I want it to fail because I want him to stay away from that cancer club.
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>>77412556
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>>77413400
The way that's drawn really reminds me of Carols new Captain Marvel outfit. I don't like it.
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>>77413795
It's just a green jazzed up Lightray outfit
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>>77413893
I meant the way the artist in that particular picture drew it.
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>>77413905
Ah, my bad

The mask does look a bit like Carol's stupid helmet
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>>77388895
BU-BUT KAMALA IS SO CUTE GAIZ!!! ;_;
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>>77384351
This pissed me off so much. I CAN understand his desire to change things and thus renounce Godhood, but it's a SHITTY decision, and so very Hal Jordan.

At least his buddy knows he has to be the center of the damn universe and owns up to it now and again.

Otherwise, solid story.
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>>77416581
Why is it a shitty decision?
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>>77416714
Okay, that's an opinion from a guy who read too much Swamp Thing. Like I said, I understand why a human, especially one like Hal, would want to make that decision, and it's great for fleshing his character out. But as a guy reading a story, I'm always for investigating what happens when a mortal gains omnipotent power.
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>>77416865
Well, Hal had something close to omnipotent power once and he super beefed so it makes sense he wouldn't want to test his luck again.
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>>77416865
I think it would have been interesting if he'd kept it but I think it is pretty neat that he'd rather exercise his will than be a slave to power
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>>77416486
What does Kamala have to do with anything?
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readan bump
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>>77416865
It's more than the "right" or "moral" thing. It's the best thing to do for the sake of causality's flow within the river of consequence. Karma, or cause and effect, is a bit beyond man's grasp without supreme omniscience. Hal was given something akin to omnipotence, but retained a limited sense of omniscience that was more or less bound by the mother ring. Any number of things would and could have occurred that may have forced Hal to do and undo everything until he became too bound by the knowledge of causality to the extent that he just watched. Yes, Hal would have been forced to just watch...just like in that speech he gave.

He renounced that existence and became one to be worshiped again. I think this story was great..

Now, I do agree with you that it's an absolute treat to read a well written story about a mortal gaining godhood, but this wasn't that story. This was a mortal realizing the lesson before being required to live it.
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>>77384321
>You want a God? My name is Hal Jordan. My father cut the sky open.

King on Green Lantern ASAP, please holy shit.
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God I hope Johns sticks the landing on the back half of Darkseid war, cause I would buy an absolute of all of this in a fucking heartbeat.
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