Imperial Propaganda- Edition
>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.co.uk/updates/release.htm
>Newest Rebels Episode: Brothers of the Broken Horn:
https://mega.nz/#F!H8Ql1AgY!scRdNJTOLsx3aauMqis1fQ
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1Zi6AEHfL5WSVB6eVdiZV82M00/view?usp=sharing
>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oak3z_FeFs
>Star Wars: Rebels MEGA (Season 1):
https://mega.co.nz/#F!UYQCwTwa!s-n8--buJPbauv6ylUo-DA
>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
>Star Wars: Uprising: ( /co/ Cartel: Loth-Cats )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpW6fOEvuSg
http://community.kabam.com/forums/showthread.php?568108-Newx-s-New-Player-Guide
>Star Wars: Commander ( /co/ Squad: Empire - SheevSquad )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FXrcuPR4XQ
>All Canon Novels and Comics: (Including the Rebels UK Comics)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ
>Star Wars Audiobooks (Canon and Legends) and Motion Comics:
https://mega.nz/#F!w9tFCZxK!7zthk3nLz-0ATC9zxxEPuw
>Star Wars Legends Novels (Incomplete):
https://mega.nz/#F!AgVghZhQ!0SL9AVJvCbzUsRICuAoguQ
>Canon Guide & Timeline:
http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs
>Star Wars /co/ Booru:
starwars.booru.org
>Star Wars: Rebels / TCW Soundtracks:
http://www.kevinkiner.com/mp3music/StarWarsRebels/
http://www.kevinkiner.com/mp3music/CloneWars/
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bb842b2alua58tb/SWTCWS16.rar
http://soundcloud.com/deankinersounds/sets/star-wars-rebels-music
First for Princess Leia feet
First-Time-TCW guy here.
Some of you asked me to write my impressions of the episodes down, for the lulz and to avoid clogging up the threads with tripfagging.
Anyone still interested?
Watched the first three episodes after the movie today, planning to watch some more later.
>>77339111
Sure, sounds fun. It's always cool to see someone who never seen a show experience it for the first time.
>>77339111
Definitely bring them here, dude. I like that shit
>>77339111
DO IT FAGGOT
Why are Sam and David such massive dorks?
>>77339179
>dat force unleashed song with lyrics
best stream ever
>>77339146
>>77339151
>>77339160
http://pastebin.com/1wK4nuvy
Here ya go. I was making some food while watching 'Supply Lines' so I may or may not have missed some small parts.
Feel free to correct anything that isn't too much of a spoiler, although I do know some of the things that happen later in the series cause of wiki-crawling.
>>77339213
I shouldn't be surprised but David belted out some pretty great vocals there. The audio guy can sing.
>>77339244
Oh and on that matter:
I will update that pastebin until it's full and start another one after that, if there's still interest. Probably even if not, just to have a complete review-guide from someone who watched it in the chronological order after it was finished.
Suppose I was working on a dynamic campaign mode for an engine upgrade for X-Wing/TIE Fighter.
What features should it have?
So far the plan is:
>Planets in the galaxy can hold a base
>Each base has a roster of pilots and an inventory of craft and munitions
>There are also factories that produce said craft and munitions
>Losing factories means you can't get replacement craft as quickly
>Randomly generated missions to attack enemy bases/ defend friendly bases/intercept enemy cargo
Anything you'd like to see? Or does nobody here play these kind of games?
Basically I want to try adding a dynamic campaign like IL-2 or Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe to X-Wing and TIE Fighter
>look something up on the wook
>still defaults to legends
This bothers me more than it should.
How was Twlight Company?
>>77339483
>more than it should.
You got that right. It's not a big deal. You faggots who can't read a book unless it's canon need to just leave.
>>77339483
They will switch that eventually, I'm sure
>>77339483
It should bother you
>>77339483
I thought they went to canon? Unless they changed that.
>>77339592
Careful or we will end up with two Star Wars threads because people won't stop giving each other shit about some sketchy definition of canon.
>>77339483
I prefer it defaulting to Legends as long as there is more material there.
>>77339592
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Huyang/Canon
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Huyang
Explain this shit.
>>77339655
Good one anon. It only defaults to canon if there is no Legends version of it.
>>77339671
They are enormous butthurt faggots
>>77339671
Given that all the Legends appearances are, in fact, canon ones, I don't understand why the Legends article shouldn't just be copy-pasted into the Canon article.
Drunk red leader pilot best pilot.Also purge troopers are old cyborg clones... that's sad
>vader hasn't gotten a new artist yet
Why haven't they dumped this guy?
any good Star Wars browser games that I can kill time with?
>>77339834
They got some upgrades by the time Battlefront rolled around.
>>77339834
Oh fuck really?
Uprising novel when?>>77339834
Why are Kaminoan girls so cute?
>>77339592
I never said I can't read a book unless it's canon.
But if I want to remember someone's backstory when reading these new books, it's helpful.
Are there space elevators in Star Wars?
>>77339876
Extremely fast and still (somehow) has a good reputation.
>>77339665
>Careful or we will end up with two Star Wars threads because people won't stop giving each other shit about some sketchy definition of canon.
But there are already tons of Star Wars threads made outside this one because people think this one is too autistic.
>>77339665
>sketchy definition of canon
Not that canon vs EU isn't autistic, but there's nothing sketchy about the definition. It's extremely clearly defined.
>>77339904
Stop.
>>77339940
Yes. Ahsoka falls down one or something in the clone wars
>>77339671
Who the fuck cares? Can we talk about Star Wars instead of wikis and shitposting?
>>77339671
Well what can you expect from those idiots
Watching Episode II and also The Clone Wars movie, what is that ship used by Obi-wan to go to Kamino/Geonosis and Tatooine respectively? The ring one.
I mean, why is it a ring? Why can't Obi-wan just use a normal ship? Isn't it dangerous leaving a peace of ship in a planet's orbit? Why does Obi-wan like it?
>>77340060
Its the Jedi Fighters Jump Ring. Space is big enough and its small enough it probably won't be found.
Not sure why, maybe to make the fighters a lot smaller?
>>77340060
Jedi Starfighters can't make the jump to hyperspace on their own, they have to connect to a hyperspace ring which they detach to fly within a planet's atmosphere or dogfight
>>77340060
It's a jedi starfighter. It doesn't have a hyperdrive naturally, so it needs a hyperdrive ring in order to actually get to hyperdrive
>>77340060
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperdrive_docking_ring
>>77340094
>>77340095
>can't make the jump to hyperspace on their own
Well, that's inconvenient. Who's the brain surgeon who thought this shit up when every other piece of shit can jump into hyperspace.
>>77339008
>>77339299
Damn she looked good.
>>77338973
She can force choke me any day
>>77340060
It was supposed to be a noticeable difference in tech level between the PT and the OT. You'll notice that only expensive starfighters like the N-1s have their own hyperdrives during the PT. Droid and clone starfighters couldn't jump to hyperspace on their own because the tech just wasn't cheap enough for that size of mass-produced ship yet. Only freighters, passenger craft and warships had their own hyperdrives. Then in the OT, we see all sorts of smaller rebel starfighters with their own hyperdrives. All the alphabet wings jump independently of their carriers into Endor and Luke's X-Wing can go anywhere the Falcon can. So we get a little hint that technology has advanced a little in the last 20 years.
>>77340188
Right, kinda like how we went from propeller aircraft to jet-engine aircraft.
>>77339483
UPDATE
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>>77340141
It's stated that one of the reasons this could be is because the jedi fighters are too small to safely contain a hyperdrive.
>>77339904
It's the hips.
>>77340188
And that's how you can tell the empire is being a bunch of cheap assholes cause hyper drive tech has developed so much and TIEs are still lacking them
>>77340060
>>77340188
It's actually to lend a bit of context to Obi-wan's declaration that the TIE was 'a short-range fighter'.
>>77340141
>>77340315
I bet Sheev was behind this to make the Jedi look silly.
>>77340315
How small can a ship be before it can't contain a hyperdrive.
>>77340365
idk man. They were a good size for subterfuge and great in space battle and jedi have other ships for multiple people.
>>77340396
idk, probably an x-wing or whatever the republic was using. Its stated that Anakin did make a miniature hyper drive. Though it wasn't great because of the size you couldn't jump very far because of fuel and such.
>>77340302
>"Oh, Sixes I'm so sorry, I didn't know this was your frequency, sir."
kek
>>77340188
It's funny KOTOR never got this right.
>>77339305
All of that sounds incredibly interesting, and I don't have any ideas to add. How do you plan to get it all working, though?
>>77340302
He refused to follow Order 66, based on the fact that he actually outranked it by two whole sixes
>>77340302
>>77340753
Beautiful.
>>77339305
sounds gr8. TIE Defender unlocked from start?
>tfw you complete your E-11 kit and didn't fuck up as hard as you were expecting to
Guys, what if what if, for Star Wars Anthology, we have a movie that is actual lovecraftian horror and reveals that the Forceis just the manifestation of the will of the Blind Idiot Daemon Sultan Azathoth who is trapped outside the known spacetime continuum
Pic of the day.
>>77340894
>1.3K
AHAHHAHAAAH FUCK YES
So, after Episode IX 'Phase 2' will be a trilogy of Old Republic era movies right?
>>77340894
Haha leia the true strong female. Feminists blown out the water
>>77340948
One can only hope.Please return Revan to the canon.>inb4 hurrhurr Revan fanboy
>>77340894
Rude, what would Jabba's son think?
>>77340981
spergy raven fen
>>77340894
That's an insult to Jabba.
>>77340948
No. Star Wars is planned to be a quadology of trillogies. It always has been.
>Phase 2.
I literally think I would kill myself. Like the realization that something like this could ever happen in any alternate universe makes me cringe.
I love the Old Republic era. I just hope it gets some Anthology movies.
>>77340831
I was thinking they would unlock later during the campaign, and be pretty expensive to order, so you have a reason to use the other TIEs at all
>>77340894
>>77341017
>Star Wars is planned to be a quadology of trillogies. It always has been.
>Implying [pic related] has that same plan
>>77340981
They return Revan but he was just some Jedi that got killed by a bunch of rabid nigger Mandalorians.
>>77340883
Nice anon, that looks great. Do you have your Armor yet.
>>77341083
>It's well known that the Martyr Darth Revan died pantless, being jerked off and spanked by a large variety of hairy Mandalorian men
>>77341117
Not yet. If everything stays on schedule, the armor should be shipped out later in this month or early next month.
>>77339618
origin?
>>77341139
That's good to hear
>>77341131
>implying we wouldn't watch it
>implying it wouldn't turn into an instant classic
>implying we wouldn't turn the sequel into the highest grossing movie of all timesThe sequel is Sheev getting it on with Revan and Banes Force Ghosts as part of his 'training'
>>77341058
The excitement will be at an all time high.
>>77340894
Ooooo, gonna need a week in the bacta from that burn
Any Star Wars draw requests to keep me from doing actual work?
>>77340948
I'd like that.
>>77341468
Sexy Sheev.
>>77341468
qt Rey
>>77341468
Tarkin balancing on 100s of isosceles triangles.
>>77340737
Really all it does is generate a custom mission file. Information outside the game is then updated defending on how the mission went. (Territory gained/lost, pilots gaining experience, craft losses, etc)
Initially I'll just replicate the campaign mode of the WWII flight sim game Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, as it is made by the same devs as X-Wing/TIE Fighter and therefore is probably what the mode would have been like if it was implemented in those games
Pretend this map is a star map, that's the idea
>tfw these models look great but you can't paint for shit
>>77341795
Imagine if the box art were of the actual attempts of the average fan to complete the model.
>>77339878
Not really.
Better to kill time with other browser games and save Star Wars for more serious formats.
Or, now that we're dealing with Disney, for your phone, I guess.
If you need browser games, Fallen London's pretty good.
Whatever happened to Yarael Poof after the Death Star was blown up?
>>77341518
Is my Sheev sexy?
>>77342176
That is everything I ever dreamt it to be.
You are a beautiful, wonderful man, anon.
Thank you.
The service you provided to the empire will never be forgotten.
>>77342176
He's too sexy, it's almost criminal.
>>77341230
He looks unhappy.
whats the name of force unleashed twitch stream? It sounds fun.
>>77342255
It ended a few hours ago, but you can check out the VOD at Sam Witwer's Twitch.
>>77342250
He almost always looks unhappy. He seems to have "I just want to go home and watch some CSI before falling asleep" as his neutral facial expression.
>>77342556
I bet, if we look for the moment that his default expression turned into one of eternal pain, we will find that it was the same day he first saw the Holiday Special.
Alright, which one of you said this >>77336591?
>>77339592
>he polices threads for posts he doesn't like, entirely for free
>>77342603
All of us.
Every. Single. One.
>>77340981
Only if the TORtanic gets explicitly confirmed for having nothing to do with canon
>>77342645
>he thinks TOR might still possibly be canon
Where have you been?
>>77342610
I love how this pitiful creature became our husbando in these threads. Before the show started I thought, for sure, it would have been Kallus.
>>77342657
He probably meant that, if Revan get's returned to the canon, only the Kotor and maybe Kotor II version of him should be used.
>>77342667
>our
You mean yours.
>>77342667
Kallus is too fucking boring
>>77342645
Agreed.Even if the mild train-wreck of a novel gave the best line ever.
"I am Revan reborn. And before me you are nothing."
Just damn. That is exactly what Revan is at the end of Kotor.
>>77342702
I think the boring part comes from the fact he has so many death flags on him already.
>Hangs out with Vader
>Fails near constantly
>Committed Genocide against Zeb's people
>Zeb's gunning for his ass
There is a huge target on his back.
>tfw Kylo Ren is pic related with a Darth Revan mask.
>>77342739
also, he has a bland as fuck design.
>>77342698
There is more than just me.
Surprisingly, I don't think we ever polled who all our waifus/husbandos in Star Wars here.
>>77342760
>Jaina is love, Jaina is Life
>>77342752
I like his design, but I like the classic Imperial Officer's Uniform better.
I do like his helmet though, and the fact it's apparently ISB issue.
>>77342760
Go on, make a strawpoll.
But either clarify that only official canon counts or include every fucking one.
>>77342773
Maybe, if she hadn't been raped to death by all the different authors throwing her character around and using her as a plaything.
>>77342795
don't worry.They're retooling her as Luke's daughter in the new canon
>search your feelings, you know it to be true.
>>77342778
I don't want to, and to be honest there would be literally hundreds to put in, because as far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter if they're canon or not, your love for them is valid no matter if they're canon or not.
>>77342760
Mara Jade is the waifu of all ages.
>>77342810
>Rey is a Jaina redux
Well, Shit.
Why don't we all just agree that Sheev is the ultimate waifu? It was so clear in the last thread.
>>77342833
When did The Emperor have an underbite?
>>77341153
I took a Kelly comic about Putin being denied power through a proud American saying nay to wanking to Russian girls, and made it about our little tiff with The Wook.
Inspired by the events of the Script Wars
>>77342645
TOR has already been explicitly confirmed to be Legends.
IF Revan were to be recanonized, the LSG would create a new version of Revan for the new canon. Reimagination seems to be the standard, rather than direct recanonization. Old ideas get reinterpreted, not restored in their existing forms.
>>77343157
>>77342657
I was more saying what
>>77342675
Said.
Revan is fine. The post kotor2 baggage is not.
>>77339592
This, it will eventually change, when canon will have more material. Until then you are just one link away from the article you want. As for the lack of content in canon, is it that hard to be allowed contribute ?
https://youtu.be/lhPUc9UgRyk?t=125
>start at 2:05
>he is a really good impersinator
>he does J.J
>he does Harrison
>he does me.... ;)
>he does me... *super embarrased smile
It's pretty much confirmed by this point they've been fucking desu.
>>77342773
I like Jaina too.
>>77342610
Speak for yourself, you cancerous waifu faggot
>>77344475
I feel like Daisy'd be too pure for that, looking at a lot of her reactions and interviews, but I can probably see it. They really do click quite a bit.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je8R6fQPr_o
>Dat photoshoot
>>77340188
>So we get a little hint that technology has advanced a little in the last 20 years.
I respectively disagree. From the Clone Wars era to the fall of the Empire, it looks like the galaxy went into a huge technological regression. Things just looked so much more advanced and sophisticated before the Empire took over.
As for the those fighters going into hyperspace before Endor. I always figured they did so because they were hanging close to the big ships, and didn't actually have hyperdrives.
>>77345462
>Things just looked so much more advanced and sophisticated before the Empire took over.
This simply isn't true. Coruscant, Naboo, Bespin?
Only reason the OT feels "technologically regressed" is because the majority of it takes place on shithole planets like Tatooine and Dagobah, and from the viewpoint of the Rebels who were using mostly scraps.
The Clone War Era feels more advanced because we spend more time on worlds like Coruscant, is all. There's still shitholes like Ryloth and such.
Truth is, there hasn't been much advancement at all. Or regression. Only aesthetic difference is the Empire making things a lot more... Grey.
>Can't even discuss Battlefront because of Shitposting IRL
>>77345565
I know this feel.
Like, if anything, I'm more angry about Battlefront than any of my friends.I ended up buying both a PSP and an Xbox 360 for the sole purpose of playing Battlefront 3and I am furious at Dice's inability to make a game the fans were asking for.
But despite that, what Dice has made does look fun, and I will play it because it's a freaking Star Wars shooter that feels awesome, and then I get people who barely even like Star Wars bitching to me about it.
Like shit, I KNOW there should have been Clones and Space and shit, get off my back. I just wanna have fun with what we got.
>>77345694
>>77345565
>Why are they using WW2 guns lol?
So if you train a padawan you become a Jedi Master.
But not all Masters sit on the Council, or does it have a rotating membership?
>>77345910
No, this has never been confirmed, and considering how few Jedi Masters there are compared to knights, seems unlikely, though training a Padawan might be in the checklist, as it were.
does ANYONE have Insider 161 yet?
>>77345959
It's considered Legends now but the book The Jedi Path mentions training a Padawan as a requirement, but there's no exact requirements mentioned, though it also says "extraordinary service to the Republic" and completing a much harder version of the trials to reach Knighthood as possible ways to become a Master.
>>77345462
Is spatial proximity hyperspace jumping a thing in Star Wars? I didn't think it could work like that.
But no, Luke hyperspaces in his X-Wing alone throughout V and VI, and a bunch of fighters jump right after the Falcon but before the capital ships into the Battle of Endor. Ever rebel fighter has its own hyperdrive. I'm not sure if the A-Wings in Rebels do yet, or if they require a linkup with the corvettes in order to jump. But it's another thing the Rebels can install in them over the next 5 years.
>>77346267
They can also use that time to upgrade the A-Wings so they don't suck and die against TIEs anymore.
>>77342176
Amazing. He is the waifu to end all waifu's
>>77345910
Lore's always been sketchy about what constitutes being a Master compared to a Knight. Training a padawan successfully seems to be a big part of the checklist to get promoted to Master, but there seem to be different ways to get the title. And the Council seems to have a rotating membership around a core of veterans like Yoda, Windu, and Mundi. In the Kanan comic, it seemed like Obiwan was giving his seat back to Depa when she recovered. Smooth, Ben. Real smooth.
>>77346435
You know Obiwan was getting some space curry on the side of his mando/nightsister sandwich. Player's gotta keep his options open.
>>77346476
Obi-Wan is truly the Jedi we all wish we could be.
>>77346476
And that's not even touching what a pimp he was in Legends. Dude has a veritable space harem going.
>>77345565
Do we know anything about character customization in this game?
It seems like there's a bunch of different species you can play as if you're a rebel and maybe there will be some kind of variance in stormtrooper armor but do we know if get to decide what we look like or is it random per match?
>>77346565
I assume you just pick an appearance alongside your loadouts.
>>77346476
>ded ventress
>ded satine
>ded mara jade
>ded tua
I just need to fucking stop having star wars waifus don't I
>>77346608
If this had been a few months ago I'd have told you not to worry about Rebels because not even the Stormtroopers die.
And then Tua blew up.
So yeah, stop having SW wafius.
>>77346592
Oh good call. I could see certain looks being unlockable and of course as DLC
>>77346608
Never lose hope, anon. You may someday find a waifu that lasts forever. Or at least one who's death actually means something.
>Satine got stuffed in the fridge
>Tua was killed for Imperial publicity
>Ventress died just to get her out of the narrative
>Mara died because...? I never actually read that story. This one might have actually been a meaningful character death for all I know.
>>77346651
Mara died because Traviss hates Jedi and wanted Jacen to be forced to make a sacrifice to confirm his fall into the Sith
>>77346651
>>Mara died because...?
Because they wanted a shocker death for Fate of the Jedi and Karen Traviss agreed to write it. Timothy Zahn, Mara's creator and primary writer over the years, was never even informed of it, only finding out when he was given the book.
He was a little put off.
So when did Barriss go all dark side?
>>77346691
Probably around the same time as Krell
>>77346691
The Worms from Geonosis put some bad mojo in her head.
>>77346725
Hive get out
>>77346673
>>77346689
So, does Traviss have any redeeming traits? I hear nothing but hate about her books.
>>77346691
She didn't, as far as we know.
>>77346753
>So, does Traviss have any redeeming traits?
Nope. She's arguably one of the biggest contributors to why the Legends/old EU is such shite.
>>77346753
Mandofags love her shit, so no.
Anyone mind posting some Clone Wars webms?
>>77346784
If you can get past the Mando cocksucking I found the Commando books good. Traviss seems like someone that would've been decent if she kept at that instead of writing pre-existing chars that don't mesh with her retarded headcanons.
>>77346755
She bombed a Jedi Temple, killed her fellow Jedi, Forcechoked an imprisoned suspect and framed her best friend for murder and sabotage. She went Darkside.
>>77346608
Just stick away from Filoni characters
He feeds on your suffering
Caption contest go!
First look at the Jakku addition to Star Tours for the Season of the Force thing. Also, /ss/ is the new villain for the Jedi Training Academy, not Inky.
http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2015/11/disneys-hollywood-studios-to-debut-new-star-wars-experiences-in-december/
>>77346906
I'll see what I got.
>>77346691
Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc-jLWyxZjI
>>77346917
I thought the first Commando book was alright
It wasn't great but it had potential to lead into some good stuff, so I ended up buying all the other books after finishing it.
Like I was expecting the Jedi girl to become a hardass, gun totting, front line solider.
Instead I got "My whole purpose in life is to have this clones baby" and "How dare that Padawan defend himself from clones trying to kill him, I better go show him what for." and then the description of what happens was pretty bad and she was either cut down by the Padawan or shot by Clones. I'd like to think the latter because that just makes it hilarious
>>77347095
>Just remember; Faster, and more intense!
>>77347096
>/ss/ is the new villain for the Jedi Training Academy, not Inky
Oh, ok.
>>77346267
The A-wings in Rebels do indeed have hyperdrive. Remember, canon A-Wings were follow ups to V-Wings and Eta fighters. Combining firepower, speed and armor.
>>77346279
The unmodified version of A-Wings are superior than TIE Fighters but then again we shouldn't compare since TIEs operate on a different doctrine and class.
>>77347095
>Shake around as much as possible while you run so that we can make up for these cheap camera rigs we had to put together that won't shake as much as muh vision.
>>77347183
>being disappointed by more /ss/
Fag
>>77347183
If it's any consolation, the UK Rebels magazine still features him, Aresko and Grint
>>77347152
In Dark Disciple they mention executing Vos and how they haven't gone that far before.
Does that mean Barriss is still alive?
Been rewatching the saga in chronological order. I have some thoughts on the prequels.
Basically, I think people really misunderstood these movies and what Lucas wanted to convey. And he's certainly partially to blame for that. The things people most frequently criticize, such as the wooden acting and bad dialogue (these things are at their worst in Phantom menace), occasionally lazy and flat directing style, or poor composition between real actors and computer-assisted imagery (I know the sets were miniatures) are perfectly valid.
It's the other, more nitpicky things I have come to forgive. A lot of people, especially RLM, have a tendency to criticize the movies based on what they think Star Wars should or shouldn't be. And I don't really think that's fair. I have come to like the different aspects of the prequels and I think provide an interesting contrast to the OT, especially in light of all the poetic rhyming Lucas is so fond of including. I don't begrudge anyone who disagrees with me but I found that after I stopped trying to force a particular view of what Star Wars is and just accepted the prequels as part of it I was able to find a lot more to enjoy in them than I had previously thought. There's a lot of cool subtext and pathos.
Anyway I've really enjoyed watching the films in chronological order. Honestly, if Jedi had managed to top Empire, you would genuinely be able to say that the saga gets better with each movie.
Excellent new interview with JJ Abrams: http://www.wired.com/2015/11/star-wars-force-awakens-jj-abrams-interview
>>77347152
Siri Tachi doesn't exist in the new canon right?
>>77347228
They have as much trouble letting go as we do. Bless.
>>77347228
>UK Rebels magazine still features him, Aresko and Grint
That understandable, British people love British people.
>>77347152
Any more?
More ancient wuxia nucanon. This time Kaan and Lord Hoth. Probably just talking about the weather, or the Thought Bomb Kaan's about to use to kill everyone around them.
>>77347245
>A lot of people, especially RLM, have a tendency to criticize the movies based on what they think Star Wars should or shouldn't be
I think this is overlooked.
I feel like people dont understand what Star Wars is and wants it to become something it's not because of their head canon. It baffles me when people get angry at Lucas for changing his own universe. He had a pretty clear idea of Star Wars and people got mad at him for expressing his ideas om his own franchise. Really doesnt make sense at all to me.
>>77347373
Yeah, sorry if I'm slow posting. Playing Batman.
>>77346753
I think her main issue is a complete lack of self restraint with her personal biases.
The mandalorians, for example, aren't just a culture of good soldier, they're the BEST. The Jedi aren't just blinkered, they're utterly ignorant. Dr, Halsey isn't just making morally murky choices and backed by unscrupulous superiors, she's a borderline sociopath and her superiors somehow remain utterly squeaky clean and innocent.
She just doesn't know how to do things in degrees.
It's especially bad when you compare her to people that do have blatant biases, but manage to write restrained work despite it (Filoni probably being the best example of this).
>>77347258
Meh. I mean, it's nice to hear him acknowledge his past missteps I guess. But otherwise this interview was just typical JJ. Lot of posturing and hot air.
Proof will be in the pudding as usual. And I'm pretty stoked for the movie, it looks like it will be good. But this interview didn't provide much insight IMO.
I've yet to watch TCW so apologies in advance if this is answered there, but are yellow lightsabers only Legends or are they canon too?
>>77347414
They died as they lived. Tying up Ahsoka.
>>77347408
Nice. Whatever they do with Bane, I wouldn't mind seeing the Brotherhood of Darkness and the Army of Light again.
>>77347447
Canon
>>77347447
They're canon, the Jedi Temple Guards have them.
>>77347447
They're canon. Temple Guards use them, and Ventress somehow got her hands on one.
>>77347410
Forgot to mention people often get upset he changed his mind about certain details in Star Wars. Your perspective and ideas will change significantly throughout your life as you mature. Have you ever looked at something you did 5 or 10 years ago and thought it was shit and changed it?
We had the opportunity to see Star Wars evolve.
>>77347258
He's such a likeable guy. Would drink a beer and talk about Star Wars with him.
>>77347447
Green
Blue
Yellow
Red
Purple
White
Black
Orange (I think)
Are all canon I believe
>>77347473
>>77347475
>>77347490
Alright nice to know, thanks.
>>77347523
also whatever off-green Ahsoka has there
>>77347414
>>77347490
I wish we could have seen more fights like this with Dooku.
>>77347410
His ideas were shit. What doesn't make sense about that? The primary reason why people don't like the prequels, is because they are terrible films. Pretty much every new element of the setting they introduce is bad. And clearly didn't have any thought put into them. Lucas very clearly shat out the scripts for the prequels. People get angry at the changes because the changes are all bad.
This isn't about headcanon, this is about quality.
>>77347501
It didn't evolve, it turned to shit. You're acting as if people are complaining about changes because all change is bad. They aren't. They're complaining about changes because those particular changes are bad.
>>77347314
I wished the show would have shown Aresko to be more of a jerk, than they did. Because in the novels, he's bit of an ass. Honestly, killing a fellow Imperial and then giving the body to Bossk is really cold.
>>77347410
>>77347501
Another telling thing for me is, if you go back and open a copy of George's 1976 novelization of Star Wars (ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster) the first thing you're greeted by is a prologue summarizing the fall of the Old Republic. And it's all right there. The entire basic plot of the prequels, minus the character details. And it matches up pretty fucking well with the movies themselves. George even said this back in the 90s. Only difference is that Palpatine is portrayed as a docile fool controlled by bureaucrats, so George changed his mind about that. But even then isn't it possible that people in the galaxy would have that view of Palpatine? And wouldn't Palpatine be the type to allow, if not outright encourage such a view, at least to the general populace? It allows him to continue working from the shadows as he's grown so fond of doing.
So he always knew what he wanted to do with the prequels. People just weren't prepared for it. It's basically a big case of "Not muh Star Wars."
>>77347578
Opinions dude. People obviously liked his ideas, why do you think TCW is so loved, when that very much lives inside the world expanded by George in the prequels?
No need to get so aggressive about this, either.
>>77347410
i mean, its not that simple. i liked the world(universe?)building done in the prequel, they were just written like fucking garbage. They are shitty movies. If they were anything but star wars they would be universally panned and no one would give a shit about them.
>>77347436
Yeah, she not only has so little respect for the stories she's working on that she doesn't bother to familiarise herself with existing canon and therefore badly misunderstands and contradicts it, she does it in this really bizarrely "preachy" way.
>>77347611
Whoa whoa where does this happen?
I didn't know he had the balls to do that.
>>77347408
Badass looking Kaan right there. I think you're capturing the style TCW gave Bane nicely. Feels like a weird Sino-Japanese-Mesopotamian mix of ancient scifi tech.
Now, do more ninja catsuit Zannah.
>>77347578
>The primary reason why people don't like the prequels, is because they are terrible films
Nah. Phantom Menace is pretty bad, AOTC has a really grating subplot. ROTS is really not bad, it just has annoying bits.
A big reason people hated the prequels back in the day was the overuse of computer-generated special effects. When you live in a world where a new superhero movie with a video game climax comes out every few months, and people STILL get excited for it, you start to forgive some of those old criticisms of the prequels.
The overzealous hatred of them is really tiring at this point though. You need to take a chill pill dude.
>>77347624
I think that most people believe that the world itself is great, brimming with potential, it was just handled terribly for the films themselves. George Lucas has great ideas, he should just never be able to execute them without help.
>>77347648
In Ezra's Gamble, it's a pretty good story for a YA novel.
>>77347676
Sure thing. Any other requests while I work on that?
>>77347677
And yet we've long established that there was plenty of practical elements mixed in with the digital stuff.
>>77347731
Starkiller vs Ahsoka
>>77347678
Pretty much this.
Lucas is a pretty sub-par writer and director, he needs people around him to keep his ideas in check and actually make the film.
I was checking out the wook to see what the Lyleks from Lords of the Sith looked like and found this.
>"The terrifying, bloodthirsty monster known as the lylek is named after my wife Kelly. Errrr… Wait, that came out wrong…" Dan Wallace
>Author Daniel Wallace named this creature by rearranging the letters in the name of his wife, Kelly.
>>77347731
Dark Sidee Ahsoka joinng Vader.
>>77347678
I don't think there he made any missteps as far as the story is concerned though. It's just his lazy direction and shoddy dialogue.
But for instance, a lot of people don't see the point of Qui-Gon and think it should have just been Obi and Ani from the get-go. But Qui-Gon becomes an important part of the story from a certain point of view.
Qui-Gon is a maverick and Obi-Wan is more by the book. But Obi-Wan takes a lot of Qui-Gon's teachings to heart. This is evident in AOTC and ROTS, Obi-Wan personally is a very live-in-the-moment kind of dude. But Obi-Wan doesn't have that connection to the Force that Qui-Gon did. In a sense, you could say that Obi-Wan learned the right lessons in the wrong way.
So now Obi is teaching Ani, and Ani needs more of a maverick like Qui-Gon, a master who understands the connection between the living force and the unifying force. Obi-Wan never got this fully, so he struggles with teaching Anakin, and he comes off as a huge hypocrite that rather selfishly only follows Qui-Gon's teachings when he doesn't have Anakin around. That's the wrong attitude for a Jedi to have.
This is a really important thing that sets the stage not only for Anakin's downfall but for the way both Obi-Wan and Yoda treat Luke. But a lot of people don't understand this and just think the movies should have had Obi and Ani be buddy buddy until Anakin tragically falls to the Dark Side, because that's what Obi says in ANH. But they forget that's the "certain point of view" scene where Obi is talking up Luke's dad to him.
>>77347740
Yes, I know all about the miniature sets. The composition of them was still mishandled by computers. It's still a shoddy digital mixing of two practical things. I think it's fair to call the end result computer generated imagery.
>>77347809
The thing that always bothered me about the prequels is the inconsistency. The stories Obi-Wan tells Luke made the Jedi order sound like the Knights of the Round Table or some other order of loosely affiliated adult warriors who follow a code/share beliefs, not a chaste monastery that trains children and promotes complete bland emotionlessness.
And Obi-Wan said Yoda trained him, there was no Qui-Gon.
>>77347809
I feel the problem with Anakin and Obi-Wan never being buddy buddy is that removes any emotion from the final fight and as Anakin is nothing but a socipathic dick the whole way through the idea that Luke could redeem him becomes laughable, as there was never anything there to begin with.
>>77347697
Thanks. Damn, I honestly did not expect him to be able to do that. I like him even more now, the grovelling little coward.
>>77347875
That's why they had Yoda teaching all the younglings.
Would you a lezzie Mon Cal, /co/ ?Yes
>>77347920
Yup.
Unless it's a Trap!
>>77347871
Also just want to add that in the next decades somebody will go back and remaster all the special effects from the prequels and make the composition better, and I think that will be the day when many of the criticisms of their overzealous detractors start to fall to the wayside.
>>77347875
I don't really see much inconsistency given what is show in the prequels. Again, this is the famous "certain point of view" scene we're talking about. We know via ROTJ that Obi-Wan is intentionally misleading Luke.
>>77347920
Sometimes I appreciate that they didn't go full Bioware with Uprising's RPG elements, otherwise we'd have waifufags begging for new romance options all the time.
>>7734792034 whenNO TRAPS
>>77347875
they aren't chaste.
>>77347901
Yeah, when the Rebels aren't fucking up his life, he's fairly competent.
You should also read Servants of the Empire, he has a short part in it as well, at least in the first one, but it's a good one.
>>77347882
I don't know, I think it's clear that Anakin is a good person at heart. Or at least it's clear that he's a loving person on a personal level (and that's what causes him to turn against the Emperor, remember). But the Jedi, especially Obi-Wan, failed him. Obi-Wan says as much in ROTS.
But in ROTS (and TCW, though it's irrelevant to the movies themselves) you see that after Anakin graduated to Jedi Knight they became much closer. Qui-Gon died, leaving Obi-Wan an ill-equipped teacher and Anakin a particular frustrating student. Thus Palpatine was allowed to fill the void left by Qui-Gon and exert his influence over Anakin by encouraging in him all the wrong things. This is pretty clear in AOTC and ROTS.
Requirements for The Force Awakens:
>Wilhelm scream
>Screen transitions
>Someone must have a bad feeling about this
>Someone must yell "NO"
>>77347677
No, rots is bad. It's not as bad, but it's still really bad.
>>77347945
Maybe it depends on how old you are when you see the movies. I just had this image in my head based on the way Obi-Wan described Anakin and the Jedi, and the fact that those white robes were supposed to be Tattooine-wear, NOT a Jedi uniform, that the Jedi Knights were, y'know, knights, not monks. That children were not a part of the thing, these guys were companions on the battlefield. When someone says "when I met him, he was already a great pilot", you don't expect Lucas to have a 10 year old piloting a fucking fighter.
>>77347751
I honestly can't tell if this is The Clone Wars cartoon or the actual Attack of the Clones movie.
>>77348097
In the films there is zero evidence of this.
He doesn't get along with his master, his relationship with Padme is forced and unnatural and his interactions with Palpatine are all over the place.
This a man who goes from saying he wants to save his wife and child to murdering dozens of children a few hours later.
TCW makes it clear he was a good person and cared about others but the films do not.
>>77348158
>the fact that those white robes were supposed to be Tattooine-wear, NOT a Jedi uniform
I'm sick of this argument. If they were supposed to be Tatooine clothes, then why did Yoda and the spirit of Anakin wear them?
>>77348175
Cartoon.
>>77348209
Yoda was living as a hobo and Anakin is from Tattooine.
>>77347622
You're delusional. The films are bad. They are terrible stories. Pretty much every facet of their execution is flawed, but above all else, they are bad stories. Very, very bad stories. That's it. That's enough. Nothing you are saying is any kind of counter to that. It's all beside the point. The main complaint people have about the prequels is that they are badly written. Which they are.
None of what you are saying matters. I don't know what point you think you're making. I can only surmise that your'e basically replying to a strawman that you have created, because you are completely incapable of forming any response to the real complaints people actually have.
>>77347751
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>>77348210
The battles in TCW were fucking awesome.
>>77348124
It has plenty of bad parts just like the others.
>most of the shlock on the Invisible Hand
>Palpatine turning Anakin evil with little to no effort (you can see it in his face, he's constantly like "damn this kid is really buying into my bullshit I don't even have to try")
>bad dialogue (MUH YOUNGLINGS)
But I wouldn't call it a really bad movie on the whole. Not when the last decade has seen so many more awful movies.
>>77348158
>Maybe it depends on how old you are when you see the movies
I mean, I was watching the OT long before I watched the prequels, and I went through a really long stint where I HATED the prequels.
>those white robes were supposed to be Tattooine-wear, NOT a Jedi uniform
Nah dude, they were always Jedi robes. Obi-Wan's outfit is similar to Tattooine robes but it has distinct Jedi trappings like tabards and an obi that Luke and Owen lack. Lots of characters in Star Wars wear robes, including the Jedi.
>that the Jedi Knights were, y'know, knights, not monks
Didn't ESB start the monk trend though? Yoda introduces a lot of those elements.
And I would say most of the prequel Jedi, especially Obi and Ani, are very knight-like in their actions rather than monk-like. They're basically adventuring crusaders, the deeper stuff about the Force goes ignored by them.
>>77348267
Dude, why are you doing this? What need is there to be an arguement? Stop calling people delusion, people are entitled to their opinions.
>>77348313
Buzz Droids are assholes
>>77340981
Only if Kreia comes back, too.
