https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd5yB9Vmd6I
>Be nice to Data, and don't be racist to aliens. There, I solved Star Trek.
>Star Wars like philosophy, for children.
>>77337624
>riker keeps putting his leg on everything
the only good gag in this
>>77337624
Is this what CH shits out these days?
CollegeHumor is always pandering bullshit. Get out, marketers. Go help your shitty writers.
>>77337624
Seems like the last decade has placed these side's arguments into reverse. Star Wars has become tedious, and New Trek is the most mindless baymatics possible.
I've never seen anything of star trek.
>>77338422
You are missing out.
Start with the beginning.
>>77338343
>Last three Star Wars films have lengthy discussions about trade embargoes and senate resolutions.
>Last two Star Trek films are spectacle-laden "hero's journey" adventure films
It hurts like only the truth can.
>TNG
gross
>>77338422
Only watch TOS if you like Adam West Batman levels of camp and nonsense.
>>77338473
>Hating TNG
I bet you like voyager.
>>77338183
Came here to say this.
The animation was cute.
>The way Picard pushes down people's cards
I'd go to your poetry reading, Data.
>>77338473
Oh well fuck you too then.
>>77337624
yeesh that's an embarrassing find
>>77338568
voyager had a lot of good episodes
>>77338422
TOS is pretty good but it's 60s as fuck.
TNG is easier to get into but the first two seasons are rough.
>>77338422
You have to start with the original series. It's the foundation the other series are built on. A lot of little details in the later series will miss your notice if you haven't seen the original.
>>77337624
>Be nice to Data, and don't be racist to aliens. There, I solved Star Trek.
But that is not what Star Trek is about.
>>77340025
>No Sisko
>>77340124
It's understandable; that anon would have had to write an entire season's worth of conflict with rape aliens, and the thread probably closed before it could be posted.
>>77340124
It would probably start in one direction, and then divert endlessly into a war and forget where it was going to begin with.
>>77338568
nah i'm only about tos
I got some laughs. But I'm the right stage of drunk, so I might not be the most discriminating audience.
I've never really understood the rivalry between Star Wars and Stark Trek. Is it just because they're both in space? Because that's about where the similarities end
I always thought it was funny how in Star Trek what constitutes a "space battle" is two stationary ships trading fire until one explodes.
>>77338422
TOS had its fair share of hot 60s women that went on to pose in Playboy. Episodes of particular interest are "Mudd's Women" and "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" (the episode title is... misleading in today's internet context)
>>77340438
I've never actually seen two fan argue. Everyone I know that likes one, likes both. I kinda suspect that the whole thing is fictitious.
>>77340124
>Hostile alien: I'm going to rape your mom
>Sisko: "What? What did we ever do to you?"
>Hostile alien: "And your dad."
>Sisko: "That's it, you're out of line."
>Hostile alien: "And you."
>Sisko: "I'd like to see you try. You know that disease your race has that's killing you? That's Section 31's doing. We have the cure. You won't get it though. Oh and I just nuked your world just in case. BASEBALL."
SEASON FINALE VERSION
>Hostile alien: "And you."
>Sisko: *trippy white background*
>Prophet Kira: "Your time has come. You must fulfill your task."
>Sisko (irrationally and comically angry): "What task? All he did was threaten rape!"
>Prophet Random Person From the Episode: "Linear understanding of sexuality is confusing. All procreation happens simultaneously."
>Sisko (crying-screaming): "I don't understand!"
>Prophet Sisko's Dead Mom: "This is another trial. All will be clear in the end" *fade to normal space*
>Kira: "Captain, what do we do?"
SUDDENLY, DUKAT STABS HER
>Dukat: "HeLlO, BeNJamIn. We ARe ThE KossT AmoJaN, aNd wE haVe TakEN DS9."
TO BE CONTINUED
>>77340470
Nah I bet it was bad in the 80s. now it's just whatever
>>77340495
I was young in the 80's. Never say an argument then.
>>77340469
Bill Theiss was our 60s Santa Claus, formulator of Theiss's Law: "a costume is sexy in direct proportion to the perceived probability that the actress wearing it is about to fall out of it."
Thank you, Bill!
>>77340445
Sure it's boring, but it's a more realistic conclusion to the natural evolution of warfare. Dogfighting is already as dead as the dodo and when ships are made entirely of computers with light-speed weapons and homing projectiles then it quickly becomes a numbers game or a strategem at best.
>>77340489
fantastic
>>77340489
>DUKAT
Why are the Cardassians the best villains?
>>77340469
holy god I looked up her playboy shoot and
>>77340552
>probability that the actress wearing it is about to fall out of it.
No way she's fallin out of anything, perkier than a damn set of..er, I dunno mailboxes or something else than never droops, I suck at words.
>>77340438
Because for a while, there wasn't anything else in the same genre that could compete like the two. Sci-fi died after the 60's and didn't really come back in swing until the 90's. Star Wars filled the gap, and then Star Trek was the one that re-kicked the trend in the 90's, so they're the big names that have the highest followings.
>>77340654
They have sexy women.
>nerdier
ree
>>77340659
>>77340755
Wrath of Kahn is the most memorable battle. It was like submarine warfare.
>>77340755
> TNG movies
Please don't
>>77340659
When the series was originally running, this scene blew my fucking 8 or 9 year old mind.
>>77340124
There's at least one other screencap that goes with that one that covers Sisko, Janeway, and the guy from Quantum Leap.
>>77340659
Damn, that looks way too good to be the series.
Watching TNG on bluray is like watching it for the first time.
>>77340813
A shame it was literally the end of the series.
>>77340489
Don't forget: the alien is played by Jeffrey Combs.
>>77340438
Fans of Trek and Wars have never really argued over anything like that. But people think there's a rivalry there just because they're both in space and have "Star" in the name. It's like fake rivalry that once in a while you see fiction try to push for a laugh. Like look at the two nerds fighting, isn't this funny? And then there's a laugh track.
>>77340445
Star Trek is usually made on a TV show budget, that's the main reason the battles are like that.
>>77340631
They're sneaky, ruthless sons of bitches with a flair for the dramatic, and they get people like David Warner to play them.
>>77340845
In a way that's kind of a good thing. The series goes out with a bang.
>>77338464
except despite being about trade embargoes and senate resolutions, none of that matters or is understandable in universe in any way. The senate doesn't seem to have any actual rules of administration beyond what the plot needs, and the trade blockades are for unstated reasons and have no clear means or purpose.
West Wing it aint.
>>77338422
Don't. It's Reddit: The Show
>>77340972
All good things.
>>77340985
go home /tv/, you're drunk.
>>77340438
It starts and ends at versus discussions, the most popular being Enterprise-D vs Star Destroyer and Sheev's Empire vs any Trek faction.
>>77341019
As much as I like a versus discussion a lot of the Trek vs Wars stuff is dumb as hell. I mean it's hard to compare the two and see who would come out on top in a fight when one tries to base things on real world science and the other shit just works.
>>77341073
there's nothing scientific about planet destroying space wizards in contrast to a technocracy. it's just the hero's journey in space + samurai fights + magic. there's nothing that works about star wars, it's just stupid fun. any series that has to come up with as many fan theories to compensate for its writing can't claim to be anything less.
No one gonna talk about how fucked vaders left index finger is?
>>77338422
TOS is extremely campy and has 5 bad episodes for every decent one even according to its avid fans. It was something extremely new and different for its time, but it's no longer its time. Its hard to imagine a random person born in 1995 would love it unless they have an inherited nostalgia for the era.
TNG has very academic influences and because of that it has a good bit of timelessness to it. It handles the Sci-Fi intellectually which has both good and bad effects on the series. It is generally well-written, but don't expect to love every character and every plot device.
Beyond that I have seen little but what I have seen suggests that they are not very distinct and kind of just blends in to the sci-fi boiling pot.
>>77341159
i like most episodes of tos
although i also like comic books from the 90s so maybe i just have bad taste.
>>77341019
Seems like it ends quickly with the acknowledgment that trek was often overpowered as fuck. A ship about a half-mile long, causing changes on a planetary scale on a regular basis, and every space faring species has hundreds of these just owned by regular assholes.
>>77341189
some of it was so bad it's good. like when a red shirt would run needlessly into a situation that would result in his death. just why?
>>77341128
Star Wars is the one where shit just works anon. They don't say on screen how shit works or how much power so and so tech has. Shit just works.
And before anyone says anything I said Star Trek tries to base its tech on real world science. I never said how well of a job they did.
>>77341159
Most TOS episodes are good. Where are you pulling your imaginary reviews?
just finished this
i just started to get into GN's
i like Chester Brown's style a lot but i'd like to expand my horizons a bit
any recs?
>>77341231
i apologize then for misunderstanding you. it's mostly likely because of the fact that lucas couldn't write himself out of a paper bag. much less explain how he got out. don't get me wrong i like star wars, i just don't think too hard about anything because it's well, kind of dumb.
>>77341073
>when one tries to base things on real world science
>>77341189
For the record, I should say TNG does have plenty of bad episodes too, even in the best seasons. Because it's mostly freak of the week kind of stuff and sometimes the subject of an episode is just boring and date or otherwise just bland. But TOS always struck me as 9 silly concepts (though some of them were done well) to 1 interesting concept whereas TNG was more evenly split and I've mostly been reinforced on this perspective.
i like both
>>77341387
>>77341238
What's imaginary about my reviews? They're my reviews. You have their origin before you: me. If you mean the "from even the most avid fan" bit, it's been reinforced by dozens of retrospectives reviews and documented minutia [and, to speak candidly, I'm only now for the first time being confronted on it by the vanguards of contrarianism]. The only concrete citation I have is a Futurama quote that I don't think is necessary or to produce nor is it particularly convincing (what with being a comedy show), but let's be realistic, who documents that kind of shit?
>>77341459
are you doing your best to sound intellectual? it's not working. you're using words to mask the lack of meaning and could be far more efficient by boiling to down to
muh opinions > your opinions
which is not in and of itself a body of opinion.
>>77341214
And then you have some of the Star Wars encyclopedias where the Empire really didn't need the Death Star because a single turbolaser on a Star Destroyer has an energy output greater than most stars.
>>77341656
not to mention sun crushers.
>>77341459
That sounds like you just admitted to making up bullshit.
>>77341656
Problem with that is there are numerous guide books, encyclopedias, etc that all say different things and contradict one another. So best bet is using only what's shown on screen but since they never give any numbers for anything, Star Wars is poorly suited for verses debates.
>>77341656
Sounds like the kind of thing that is probably no longer canon since the great Disney cleansing. At least Star Wars is easily much faster moving, since it would take 100 years for Star Trek to warp across the galaxy.
>>77341387
Same here mang.
>tfw Sheev and Dukat will never team up to be the cheekiest cunts in the universe
>>77341787
>Not Sheev and Marritza posing as Gul Darhe'el
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVHR0UPHERQ
>>77337624
>2,347,794 views
Comedy is dead.
>>77341824
Dude was one of the best
>>77338183
It's a solid one.
>>77340852
This so much
>>77342248
He does good work.
>>77342292
he's weyoun/s were great, but i say his brunt show alot of range from his part
>>77342149
Shit, I always forget how great that episode is.
>>77338183
>riker keeps putting his leg on everything
>a good gag in a funny thing
fixt
>>77342345
It's not that great.
>>77342378
Crusher yelling during that scene spooped me the fuck out the first time I saw it.
>>77342388
She spent most of the episode inside a stasis chamber because she was actually directing it.
>>77342388
At least she wasn't mauled to death like this guy. Someone turned into a monster and clawed the shit out of him. Probably Worf.
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>>77337624
>Feat. Spot
I kek'd.
>>77342417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtPh0saKAT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj3FjSmOwvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SUoC-7vry8
>>77342149
HOW IS HE DEVOLVING BACK INTO A SPIDER
>>77342475
And a UT video for the hell of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlBniXj6FIA
>>77342492
Same way Spot "DE-evolved" into a lizard.
That episode with the crew devolving was basically where they got the idea for Deadspace.
>>77342577
I'd forgotten about that
(massive improvement)
>Star Wars is for plebs
>Star Trek is for nerds
There, problem solved
>>77342644
Written by the same man who gave us the episode where Janeway and Paris evolved into salamanders after going infinite speed.
>>77338568
Why does everyone always hate Voyager? I thought it was a great change of pace with a cast that I liked. I know behind the scenes it was a fucking nightmare, but the product was great and the cast really seemed like a family.
>>77343138
Voyager was just so MEH after getting all the amazing shit in TNG and DS9.
Alot of people fucking hated Janeway and her crew. And Neelix was an insufferable shit. And then Chakotay and his goofy MUH NATIVE AMERICAN shit. Tom Paris and Harry Kim were the epitome of bland generic characters.
Doctor was the only character that i really liked.
>>77343138
Because it's meh at best and it's rarely at its best.
>>77343206
The Doctor was fantastic.
7 was alright for the most part. And Most of the cast got their moments (even Harry... though not Chocolatday). It just had some godawful episodes and they wasted some very good plots (Year of Hell, the rogue Starfleet ship murdering aliens for fuel, etc.)
>>77343206
Neelix could indeed be annoying, but his heart was in the right place. Chakotay was kind of annoying, granted, but I loved the Tom / Be'lanna / Harry dynamic.
>>77343260
We DEFINITELY needed to see more of the Equinox.
>>77343260
The main issue I had with Voyager was that it completely abandoned it's roots.
Shit, Janeway violated the Prime Directive 11 times during the show. Fucking 11! And I'm not talking about a wholistic moral conundrum where the lines are so blurred you can't see shit - I'm talking out and out fuck-you-where's-mine?
>Destroying Caretaker's array
>Curing the Vidiian Phage
>Allying with the Traeb
>Allying with The Borg
>Murdering Tuvix to save Tuvok and Neelix
>The Omega Directive
>Giving the Hirogen lethal holograms
>Secretly transporting refugees
>The Temporal Prime Directive? What's that?
>Starting a civil war in the collective
>Equinox
And so forth.
Add to that the fact that they should have run out of torpedoes in Season 3 after Chakotay said they only had a compliment of 39 and it just turned into a clusterfuck.
But there were some great episodes, like Timeless, Year of Hell and Course: Oblivion so if you have the ability to suspend a lot of disbelief that it might be worth a look-in.
>>77345035
>>77338183
>>77338646
>>77342083
>>77342360
I didn't know who Riker was and what this joke was about so I looked it up. Now, I get in and out of chairs exactly like this all the time, it just feels comfy as a tall guy. Is doing it like this really that uncommon? I hope no one has seen me do it and thought, "Oh, he must want to be just like that Riker guy."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVIGhYMwRgs
>>77346656
>having your crotch hover just above the back of all chairs before sitting
>not weird already
>>77342683
Maybe he has a fetish.
>>77345035
The plot should have revolved more around Maquis and Federation differences and have more hostility in the crew.
>>77343206
I liked Tuvok, as he clearly hated almost everyone and couldn't be bothered to deal with their shit.
Remember when Harry Kim was killed and replaced with an alternate version of himself and no one ever mentioned it again?
>>77349997
Don't forget Harry got space herpes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnPIPOaRUFg
>>77338817
Why does everyone say that about TNG? I found no change in the solid quality that the start of the show has until about the 6th season where it gets a bit old.
>>77342413
>Someone turned into a monster and clawed the shit out of him. Probably Worf.
>Implying Worf could ever beat someone in a fight during TNG
The moment Worf laid a hand on the crewman Worf would go flying backwards and hit a wall.
>>77350291
Worf killed Gowron in DS9.
>>77341459
You literally claimed other people agreed with you in your first post cunt
>>5 bad episodes for every decent one even according to its avid fans
Fuck off.
>>77350314
He said TNG explicitly.
what does /co/ want out of the new star trek series
>>77337624
Babylon 5 is better than Star Trek -DESU-
>>77350353
Doesn't matter, DOA.
Constraining it to a proprietary online service that only includes CBS shows guarentees it's failure, regardless of quality.
>>77350353
- A return to the canon universe. Not the new movie-verse.
- A series with a straight forward setting that is not a gimmick.
- A set of protagonist with the kind of tight relationship that Kirk, Spock, and McCoy had.
- Sexy-weird alien women.
- Exactly one Klingon that is always in a perpetually delightful mood no matter what.
Star Trek is nerdier because it actually goes into the logistics of space travel and life in outer space, if in a fantastical manner.
Star Wars is just Prince Valiant with sci-fi trappings, so it has more general appeal.
That's why the Star trek Reboot is just an Action Movie
>>77342345
It could have been much, much better.
Picard crawling around for a good chunk of it kinda ruined it
>>77345035
>Janeway violates the prime directive 2 episodes after she refuses to use a "get-me-home" maguffin that wouldn't even have fucked anything up for the society, because of the prime directive
>>77350430
>Exactly one Klingon that is always in a perpetually delightful mood no matter what
fucking this
>>77350430
Or at least one of the jolly, partying Klingons,someone that isnt perpetually dour and serious and honor-focused
>>77340495
Not really? The big difference was that in the 80's Star Trek fans were already dressing up and going to conventions. Star Wars fans just played with our action figures. I remember being kinda shocked in 1999 when people showed up to the Phantom Menace premiere in costume. That was something only the Trek fans did.
>>77342577
the thing is we do share pretty much the same genetic material with everything on the planet, the virus would rewrite to any creature along the evolutionary tree not just direct descendants (Why Picard was devolving into a lemur and not just directly into a caveman) Spots version of the virus jumped back to the reptilian ancestors of mammals which I know weren't iguanas but that was probably budget.
>>77350430
-more non humanoid aliens, or at least radically changed costumes that just dont look like a person with a bit of face paint and a minor prosthetic.
- A radical shift in political power leading to heightened tensions between the federation and Klignons, maybe Cardassia joins the federation or forms an alliance with the empire forcing the other side to become more aggressive
-Delta quadrant races migrating to the beta quadrant
- Exploration into the Gamma quadrant the one quadrant they never used in any of the series.
>>77340335
Mah nigga
>>77350353
For it to take place in the Motion Picture Era.
I want my sexy sexy Connie refits, Saratogas, and Excelsiors.
>>77350811
You mean DS9 didn't explore the Gamma Quadrant?
>>77350930
not enough to make any considerable contributions aside from the bajoran wormhole aliens
>>77350536
>>77350618
I don't want anyone to question why he is happy. Everyone just accepts this. It shouldn't be weird for a Klingon to be in good spirits.
>>77337624
>and don't be racist to aliens
Isn't that supposed to be the lesson of star wars?
If they had ever bothered to bring it up?
Because the empire was supposed to be human supremacists?
>>77341159
My problem with TOS was that it had like five episode plots total and they kept repeating
>Extremely advanced aliens play god to the crew
>Someone gets powers and plays god to the crew
>People on some planet are living life under some kind of facade
>A machine is evil
>Someone/everyone is sick and dying
with some few extremely memorable exceptions.
>>77351089
no their space imperialists. it's in the damn name. they want to control everything, it's not racism, it's megalomania. they only kill those that resist. did you even pay attention?
>no bff to murder rebel scum with
;_;
>>77351147
To be fair TNG is similar
>The Enterprise may be a delusion in a crewmember's head
>Someone/Everyone is acting really strangely aboard the ship
>An unknown force is fucking with the Enterprise's systems
>People have a weird disease on the Enterprise
>How human is Data?
>Q Fucks with the Enterprise
>>77352032
Also, Diana mom episodes, Diana and random giy episodes, Worf episodes, Klingon episodes, Barclay episodes, Weasley episodes, plot episodes, so on.
>>77337624
CollegeHumor and Cracked have both gone to the Dark Side.
They used to be awesome, but now all they care about is cashing in on Buzzfeed's business model.
>>77343206
I liked most of them, But I hated Tom Paris, because everyone, crew and people who watched it, must know he had an obsession with the twentiesth century.
>>77352283
A Weasley episode for Star Trek.
Cool Harry Potter Crossover!
>>77350930
They basically just dipped their toe in, didn't really get much further than, like, a sector and a half, MAYBE, before the Dominion showed up at the end of Season 2 and were all OH UH UH, NAH, I DON'T THINK SO at them.
They didn't really do much Gamma exploring after that, other than The Search, and maybe taking Odo back to The Founders when he first got sick.
So why is it the entire history of both Star Wars and Star Trek we have never seen two ships on different spacial orientations?
They always have the same relative up/down orientation.
This makes no sense when you consider that they probably took off from different planets.
>>77352809
It happens a few times, in Star Trek.
I mean, that was the big ace Kirk had up his sleeve in Wrath of Khan, that Khan was mostly used to fighting on Earth, he thought in two-dimensional terms, so Kirk fucks him up 3-D-wise, baby.
>>77352326
I stopped going to cracked when they let Zoe Quinn write an article. It had been on the decline for a long time, but that was the line. Giving an attention whore a platform to write click-bait about being the 'most hated person on the internet' isn't comedy and it isn't journalism.
If they want to be one or the other, fine. But trying and failing at both just told me the place was being run by idiots.
What's with, like, all this negativity, man? Just enjoy a thing, man.
>>77350353
The shit that made Star Trek great in the first place.a visionary future setting with which to tackle today's and tomorrows problems, a charming character who is probably a sociopath, a headstrong autist, The Human, and LOTS of sexy aliens in dangerous situations.
Why is Geordie at ops?
>>77337624
This is better in every way, and was made years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFCBwob65Nw
>>77337624
In Season 3 of TNG.
Why do people hate Wesley?
>>77357572
Are there people that DONT hate Wesley?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7jbP1_H9sA
>>77338422
Watch DS9. Space battles, political intrigue, character development! Overarching plots!
>>77340659
>ships disintegrate with no debris
>>77341274
There are TONS of physicists who have written books about the science of star trek. Not to mention the amount that are written about how star trek has influenced science.
>>77338422
DS9s pretty great. All the different characters chilling out together is the best part of the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhSm6G7cVk
>>77357572
He became a shithead teenager
>>77342149
Saw this episode as a kid and it was late that night, fucking creeped me out so bad I couldn't sleep that night.
>>77342408
I love how nearly all the cast got into the production of the show, later on in the show they all were working behind the camera as well as in front
>>77357572
The first two seasons of TNG had Wesley be insufferable, except for the episode Wesley didn't get into the academy.
>>77346656
Riker also just put his leg on shit all the time.
I've never watched Season 3 of The Original Series.
>>77360274
Or gotten past Season 4 of DS9.
Farscape's my favorite Sci-Fi series and Galaxy Quest my favorite Star Trek Film.
Still the most balanced Star Wars vs Star Trek argument I've seen.
Babylon 5 > Star Wars and Star Trek.
>>77360316
Damn right!
Also Earth: Final Conflict is the superior Roddenberry series. Excluding Season 5 when it became Buffy the Vampire Slayer, that is.
>>77345035
I don't know if breaking the Prime Directive is really that big a deal in those circumstances.
I mean the entire point of Voyager was that they had to abandon their roots.
It's the Star Trek equivalent of a commando unit being shot down two hundred miles into Viet Kong territory, with no map, no compass and just the clear knowledge that no official procedure's going to save them.
It had a nice blend of what the right course of action would be, and how it conflicts with the right thing to d in the situation.
Plus, I think it was meant to be taken with a bag of salt, with stuff like the episode "Nothing Human".
In there, it looks like the episode ends on "The Ends Don't Justify The Means", but the whole way it's done, if you think about it, it's more about how for THEM it is unacceptable. They build a hell of a case of the means throughout the episode, so while at the end the crew takes a side, it's not necessarily "the solution".
I like Sci-fi like that. Reminds me of the Foundation series.
>>77360283
>Farscape's my favorite Sci-Fi series
I actually just started Season 4 of it on Netflix. Will Scorpius ever not be shit on by everyone, even though hes always been right?
>>77360316
>>77360316
Might be true, but that doesn't change how fucking irrelevant it is in the cultural landscape (take that as you'd like)
>>77362620
That's fine with me. I'll never have to see it get ruined. Well more so.
>>77357462
except this is shit.
>>77337624
>CH
I see they are still shit. have not had anything good in years
>>77338422
its not worth your time. watch babylon 5
>>77338422
While going in chronologically has its merits, just watch DS9. If you like it enough to watch it all the way through, you're basically primed for the rest of Trek.
That said, Picard is god tier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pyW48QlB2s
>>77362694
Londo and G'kar were the best.
>>77340654
They're complex and well written, because the writers didn't just want to make them Hollywood Nazis in Space.
>>77362711
true.
>>77340782
I recently rewatched it and was surprised how well the battles hold up. Each shot fired in Wrath of Khan actually means something and has an intense build-up, the fireworks in the new films are just dull as fuck in comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCpYqWAIwFA
>>77343206
I started with voyager and watching the other ones after this made me like them more. I liked Deep space 9 for its characters (except i hate ferengi)
TNG was just based. data is the best character
And i liked the borg concept on voyager being a massive threat, it was fun
>>77341231
>Star Wars is the one where shit just works anon.
Except when it doesn't so most of the cast can be forced in to an asteroid field for half the movie.
>>77337624
How would a Jedi block the continuous beam of a phaser?
>>77343206
But that's wrong. Voyager had the best crew of the 3.
I hate how normalfag Star Wars is all of a sudden.
>>77363350
It just continuously refllects off the blade, pretty sure that happened in the Clone Wars cartoon.
Better question would be how they'd deal with a phaser set to spread.
>>77363410
>Literally one of the most lucrative and popular franchises of all time
>all of a sudden
Kill yourself publicly after stepping out of your mother's house.
>>77363389
Of all the shows, Voyager had the most potential in general, but the inconsistent writing and dedication to episodic plots completely ruined it.
>>77362711
>>77362694
I try to name drop Babylon 5 as much as possible because its so unknown here.
Usually I just say its like Star Trek but awesome.
>>77363440
Wasn't it one of the first TV series to have its plot completely planned out from the beginning? I always tell myself that I have to give it a shot, but I find it hard to get into.
>>77363455
If its hard for you to get into already, I cant imagine you would like the show at all. Maybe after you get into the various political situations, but I always felt the day to day stories in the series were the meat of it.
Also I had no idea this motherfucker was in Star Trek.
So how garbage is the new series gonna be?
>>77363550
Starfleet is mother, Starfleet is father.
>>77363581
It's impossible to get it right. If they only focus on entertainment, it'll be "too stupid", if they tackle social issues the same way older shows did, it'll be "SJW propaganda".
>>77363581
>>77363641
It's also directly tied to CBS' app, they're using it as a subscriber lynchpin where it doesn't have the weight to be one, so it'll get canned fast if it's not really well received.
>>77363581
First off CBS isn't the network to do it, and like >>77363641 said either it will focus on action and dumb drama bs ( my bet) or it will try and be intelligent and thought provoking, but be immediately rejected given all of nerddom's right wing shift in recent years. The screams of "SJW SJW SJW" would never fucking end.
Nerds today would hate star trek, unless it was about an all white male cast and all of the dialogue consisted entirely of references no one outside of the fandom would get.
>>77350353
I want a certain amount of hard sci fi. Social issues is a trek tradition, but feeding too much into fluffy moder hugo award winning shlock leads to predictable pablum. And the current SJW gestalt is too focused on discrimination of the past. Star trek needs to be future focused and visionary.
>>77350618
that TNG klingon episode that showed how their ships were run was fucking amazing.
>>77337624
>woman you're in love with turns out to be a smuggler in league with terrorists
>torn between your feelings and your duty
>turn her in
>tell her you'll be waiting for her
>actually wait for her and get back together after her sentence is over
Starfleet raises good officers.
>>77363792
>And the current SJW gestalt is too focused on discrimination of the past. Star trek needs to be future focused and visionary.
Yeah, I always liked that Star Trek tried to lead by example by portraying a world were humanity has overcome discrimination and war. Though it got weird sometimes when the Federation interacted with less enlightened cultures, like in Code of Honor.
>>77340025
>>77340489
>>77341266
I think you're in the wrong thread...Try Jim Woodring, Art Spiegelman and Harvey Pekar. Not gonna lie, you probably won't get Woodring's stuff but you should give it a try anyway.
>>77350455
>Star Wars is just sword & sorcery with sci-fi trappings
ftfy
>>77352326
>>77352897
They still make decent historical articles from time to time
>>77355515
I recall episodes where he had to man the ops desk; I think it was a rota thing.
>>77360274
"Spock's Brain" is fun in a "Plan 9 From Outer Space" kind of way. I have been told of some Season 3 episodes that were actually good, but I'm damned if I can remember them.
>>77363732
I sort of agree with you... Uhura had some damn good scenes, like in that episode where they beam up a 1950's fighter pilot.In b4 THAT webcomic. You know the one I mean.
>>77342683
fucking really
>>77340974
The blockade in TPM was the Trade Federation protesting new high taxes against them. Not even EU explanations, that's right in the crawl.
>>77362247
>the Foundation series.
Thanks for reminding me that I need to finish that series, those books blew my mind in high school.
>>77345035
Every Star Trek crew wiped their ass with the prime directive at every opportunity, it's hardly unique to Voyager.
>>77364484
Here's a bonus:
Think over the general direction of Mass Effect and the endings when you're done reading Foundation's Edge.
>>77366168
The Foundation and Gaia only managed to make me hate those fucking endings EVEN MORE.
Fuck Bioware.
>loved Q episodes on TNG
>holy fuck Sisko punched Q on DS9
>Q shows up on Voyager and its a shitty babysitting episode
>>77366655
I didn't like how thirsty Q was for Janeway's dick. You'd think if he had to choose a father for his energy baby it would've been Jean-Luc.
>>77337624
>Ad before video
What the fuck happened to my ad block?
>>77340905
This. This this this.
