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I'm honestly kind of waiting for this guy to turn out to somehow NOT be Butterbard and QW will fuck things up while assuming he is.
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>>77323647
I love the subtle glow of the SUBTEXT in that frame.
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She's such a qt.
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>>77323963
She's like fifteen. Also, a reptile.
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>>77324409
Those are precisely the conditions that /tg/ likes the most.
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>>77324409
I FAIL TO SEE HOW THESE ARE NEGATIVES
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>>77324409
So I want to fuck her more.
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>>77324447
>>77324437
>>77324476
Man, you guys would NEVER make it as criminals.
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>>77324931
No.
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Today is katia's birthday
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I want to see that bound argonian get freed and turn everything into a rage induced bloodbath.
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>>77325918
I want to see him bite someone's had off
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There's no way in hell or whatever elder scrolls equivalent, fucking nerd Katia is the Hero of Kvatch
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Is there anything to accomplish in this flash?

I'm sure I talked to everyone on the ship twice and nothing happens.
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>>77326182
Talk to the captain. He's under the wheel on the top deck.
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>>77326182
Get a book from the captain's cabin
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>>77326050
Yeah, it doesn't really fit her character. At most, she could evolve to be a successful warrior or manage to live a good life... but legendary stuff? Nah. Her suffering is what makes the webcomic compelling, together with her very slow advancement (which shouldn't be taken too far, otherwise her character will lose credibility).
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>>77326050
pick one of either:
>Coldharbor
>the Ashpit
>Snake Mount
>the Deadlands
>the Pits
>Quagmire
They're all pretty terrible. My favorite is probaby Quagmire.
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>>77324409
perfect
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>>77326050

I found it funny how that guy got cornered with evidence and arguments and he just went "ARTISTIC LICENSE" and "KAZ CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS" as if there was even a single hint that kaz would abandon his current devotion for lorefaggotry and accuracy, not to mention solid continuity and character development just to allow him to play Oblivion and RP as Katia.

In truth it'd be a colossal asspull, it'd make for a violent change in tone and themes for the comic and it'd spit in the general idea of Katia's struggles since she could have continued not trying to improve and still end up becoming the fabled hero. It's also pretty creatively bankrupt to, in the face of one of the richest fantasy settings around, assume only a main character's story can be worth telling.

But mostly it's just pathetic to try to wedge a fully fledged character into another role for the sake of placating waifufaggotry. Katia is Katia, she's special for who she is.
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I assume the fanartists have gone apeshit over JB QW, right?
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Did Kaz draw the panels without color, or just make them the normal way before desaturating them?
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>“Oh yeah. I should ask before we proceed any further: You’re not an undercover agent, right?”

Shits about to go down
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>>77326976
I was the guy saying what you are writing in sarcastic allcaps, and I had never posted in that thread before that post.

All I meant was that saying Kaz couldn't write whatever the hell he wanted to write was full retard.
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>>77327191
He's gotta tell him if he's an undercover cop, you know.
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>>77327300

But he already wrote things a certain way that don't support Katia being CoC, THAT'S what he wanted.
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>>77326976
>Story starts with protagonist newly arrived to a new land
>She declares she's going to leave her fucked up past behind and start a new life
>Fails in this almost instantly
>Turns out it's actually difficult to change who you are
>But she keeps trying
>Story ends with her, again, cutting ties to her past and starting over from nothing. Her slate is truly clean this time, and she's going to be defined by her future actions rather than her past.
>Today is the beginning of a new you
Dunno, it checks out to me. This honestly seems pretty solid, as stories go. Better than that hack job Oblivion proper had.

And what do you mean by
>she could have continued not trying to improve and still end up becoming the fabled hero?
I can think of a couple things that could mean, and none of them make sense.
You could be saying that Kaz is railroading her to becoming the hero, but having the option to become the hero doesn't mean that reader suggestions can't change her course. And Kat not being the hero doesn't mean that Kaz isn't railroading the hell out of his story.
You could be saying that the Elder Scrolls universe is canonically preordained to a point, meaning that if she becomes the hero she was always fated to become the hero, but that's true for every occupation she could end up at. Hell, it's MORE true for scenarios where Katia isn't the hero, since heroes are not completely bound by fate.
You could be saying that even if the universe wasn't preordained, we know there is going to be a hero, since Oblivion clearly had a protagonist; but again, that's true for all cases where you accept that Katia Managan canonically exists in the Elder Scrolls universe. From the point of view of Skyrim, her life is long over whether or not she was the hero. That doesn't imply that it doesn't matter what choices she makes in her present.
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>>77327308
>To prove you're not a cop, you must rape this slave.
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>>77327748
>Dunno, it checks out to me. This honestly seems pretty solid, as stories go. Better than that hack job Oblivion proper had.

the entire point of the comic is that she can't just leave everything behind and start anew, it's not that easy, it takes time and it takes accepting one's shortcomings and mistakes. Congratulations, you don't understand Prequel.


>I can think of a couple things that could mean, and none of them make sense.

and both are still wrong. Honestly you're just dwelling on something completely external to the argument.

the THEME of the comic is that, for someone who isn't a hero, things aren't going to work like they do for heroes. Katia has been having 'adventures' for her entire youth, she tried to do exactly what you say and start anew clean and it immediately blew up in her face, she wasn't just dropped in the middle of a fateful event, she got off the boat, got drunk off her ass and has done nothing but try to make up for the fuck ups she made while trying to make up for other fuck ups.

She was painfully dragged through multiple failures just to somehow put her mind on the right track, and even then there's no certainty she's going to make it through, and even THEN, it's just a meager fetch quest and she doesn't really have a plan afterwards. She's stuck on a shitty situation she made for herself, she can't just grind and grind until she's rich and powerful because that doesn't work for people who aren't prodigies like the game heroes are, but that's what makes her special, because she's not that prodigy, she's imperfect and the way she interacts with this fantasy world tailored for legendary adventurers feels real. Making her the hero would dump all of that and discard the character she is for someone else.
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>>77328598
You're implying that heroes never fuck up. Did you never get killed by a rat in the first 20 minutes and had to reload? Katia hasn't even been doing that badly, she hasn't had to use a quickload.
Also, once again, if you want to go on and on about the role of a hero, why would making a stiry about someone normal being the hero be worthless? It makes just as much sense as any story someone migt think up for their iteration of the PC.
FYI, only the PC can level up in Elder Scrolls games, and you have said that Katia has leveled up before.
>inb4 muh behind the scenes
Fuck you then, I'll say Katia was a level 0, and she is the exact right level to start her story as the PC now.
I'm not even the guy you were arguing with, it's just fucking ludicrous to believe that you know exactly Kazerad's plans and intentions with Prequel. No, I don't care if everything you learned in some shitty writing class tells you otherwise, you don't get to decide how a story goes, just like how the first modern dramas weren't shit either.
And no, I'm not saying Kaz is a genius innovator, I'm saying you're a stagnating fuck who can't imagine being surprised by reality.
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>not this shit again
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>>77327748
>>77328598
>>77328807

Katia is not the CoC because she gives up and goes back to drunken sluttery after she fucks up the break-in.
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>>77329185
This post isn't me.

I mean, come on, you guys know I wouldn't inhibit an ongoing back-and-forth like this. I wanna watch these people fight.
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>>77329368
Kaz!

Flash when?
I don't mean to rush you, but the waiting is too much.

I lub you Kaz.
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>>77329368
you fucker don't want to get a trip just so you can falseflag
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>>77329368
>You're taking way too long
>1 minute
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>>77329368
>>77329611
I managed it eventually though.
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>>77328598
So, what, Katia's going to be a useless drunk forever? Bullshit. Yeah, if she was to actually succeed in what she's been trying to do for six years and two new Elder Scrolls releases, the story would be over. Katia's a fuckup, and that's the whole point of the character, and the point of the story. That still doesn't mean she's going to stay that way. Despite strong evidence to the contrary, I don't think the story is just going to drag on forever. At some point, Katia's going to either change or die.

She obviously isn't going to be the Champion of Cyrodiil at the end of Prequel. However, between her think-like-a-witchhunter-lessons and life-or-death combat experience, she's pretty well set to becoming a first-level adventurer. You seem to be stuck on the image of the hero as an unstoppable demigod clad in daedric mail, but at the start of the game, you're still only a nameless, clueless nobody stuck in a prison cell.
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>>77329368
Kaz, how does it feel to already have 20.000 extra gold?

that's 0.25 million pesos here.
fuck my country
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>>77329734
You could've just said 250.000 pesos.
20k is over 5.75 million moneys where I'm from, so stop whining.
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>>77329610
No, it's just that in my experience 4chan is a whole lot less tolerant of trip fagging than simple name fagging. And Other people stealing my name doesn't happen too often.

>>77329686
>At some point, Katia's going to either change or die.
I would point out that Katia has already changed in some major ways. The most obvious being learning how to light things on fire (on purpose) and telekinesis. That being said, death is not out of the question.

>>77329734
It's very cool, though, my friends keep telling me I'd already have all the stretch goals if I offered Katia/Quill-Weave porn. How do you like the reward side story so far?
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>>77329941
I like reading it, this is much more cute and fun so far than the last one.

Please do Quill-weave and katia awkward porn. Katia would logically not have a clue how to do anything for Quill
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>>77329941
Tripfags are annoying when their identity is meaningless, but they want to draw attention to themselves anyway.
If they're an active drawfag or a full-on creator like you then it's fine.
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>>77330163
Happy birthday sadcat.
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>>77329941
Question: Can catslut sadness be harvested and converted into an alternative energy source?
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>>77329686

that isn't the point of the post at all, you know.

you just want to butt in your completely unrelated argument here.
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>>77329941

I don't know why you assumed that, tripfags that contribute are NEVER shitposted or called fags.

Are you considering drawing porn/erotic stuff?
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>>77329941
>death is not out of the question.
:^(
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>>77329941
Tripfags like Lelouch on /a/ are cancer.
Tripfags like Plague, morbi, quest qms on /tg/, the writer of Log Horizon on /a/, and so in are fine.
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>>77326976
Cornered with evidence? The only "evidence" presented was insisting that a fanfiction rigorously adhere to video game mechanics. Oh no, Katia can't be the protagonist because she wouldn't be a level 1 character. What really? Why does that matter? The only substantive point was that, yeah, Katia would have already known Quill-Weave and Sigrid instead of meeting them for the first time like in the game. That's where the whole artistic license comes into play. Kaz has created a whole new backstory for Quill-Weave and Sigrid that was never even hinted at in the game, so yes he can do whatever he wants.

And the crazy thing is, I don't even care if Katia is the Oblivion protagonist or not. It just seems like he had been since, well, the start of the whole fucking comic. What made me even give a shit to argue for it is seeing people like you act to bitterly hostile to the very idea. You claim that it's all about 'waifufaggotry', yet you're the one who seems to be overly attached to the character.

Here's what points to the possibility of Katia being the Oblivion protagonist. The comic is named Prequel and is set roughly one week before the events of the main plot of Oblivion. Katia suffers from low self esteem and is trying to leave her old life behind. There's some crazy magical destiny bollocks going on with her nightmares, nightmares that specifically involve royalty. The comic has only gone through about five canonical days, and in those five days Katia has gone through a significant amount of character growth. It's not too much to assume that in the next two or three days that growth will continue. That she'll gain full confidence in herself, the confidence necessary to be a goddamn hero. Or t least a competent murderhobo, because the protagonist of Oblivion is only as good as you are. The audience input lends itself well to that, the whole comic could be like a Twitch Plays for Oblivion.
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>>77330275

you still have no idea what artistic license means
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>>77329941
I hate the slow release thing. I hated it last time and this time
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>>77330258
>quests
>Fine
No.
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>>77329941
Please draw more lewds
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>>77329941
Kaz, I guarantee you 100% you won't get shat on for tripfagging, you are not attention whoring
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>>77330304
It's to tweak an established work to make it fulfill your own creative needs. Or at least that's my understanding. If that's not the literal definition, then fine, you win one argument. It still doesn't change the fact that this aggressive hostility to one interpretation of a story is downright pathetic.
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>>77330227
Well, would you mind telling me the point of the post, then? Assuming it has one.

All I got out of it was
>Katia can't be the Hero of Kvatch because she's a perpetual fuckup and the Hero of Kvatch is a competent adventurer
which, as we can all plainly see, is bollocks.
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>>77329941
I think we all know you like it when people pretend to be you.
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>>77329941
You know this is still not me, but his/her imitation is close enough. They get my approval.

>>77327060
>Did Kaz draw the panels without color, or just make them the normal way before desaturating them?

They were drawn gray. Doing it in color and converting to grayscale means things that previously had good contrast may not anymore, if their contrast was based on hue rather than value. It's unnecessary work that potentially leads to more problems.

>>77329734
>Kaz, how does it feel to already have 20.000 extra gold?
>that's 0.25 million pesos here.
>fuck my country

Well, it's more like I have 10,000. About half of the money (likely more or less, depending on the exact orders) is going to production/shipping.

If it makes you feel better, though, I cover more of the shipping charges for Mexico than any other country. It's because I feel bad for you guys.

>>77330234
>Are you considering drawing porn/erotic stuff?

What do you want me to draw, anon?
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>>77330225
Yes it's called hydroelectric, and it's... inefficient.

>>77330234
I guess I might be reversing causation on it. It's not that Tripfagging causes shitposting, but faggotry causes both shitposting and tripfagging. Still not having a code is sort of the-thing-that-I-do at this point. And again not too worried about impostors.

>>77330240
You know, all stories end with all the characters dying, you just don't notice because the narrator stops narrating before that happens.

>>77330332
People keep asking, but, lewds just aren't my thing. I'm more into humiliation and false hope, which should be painfully obvious by now.
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>>77329941
Just get a trip already, dude.

Like the other anons said. If someone is just posting their opinions but doing it under a name, it ruins the purpose of being anonymous and chans in general. Their identity does not contribute anything but they want the attention.
People with some sort of content generating continuity like writing on /tg/ or drawing. Or if they are creators from elsewhere, like being a director of a cartoon or a creator of oh i don't know, a webcomic, then it's fine and most of the time actually necessary
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>>77330505
>>77330513
Well, shit, which one is real?

only way to find out.

FIGHT!
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>>77330505
seductive mudcrab
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>>77330505
Kazerad, how does it feel to be a lord among furries? Do you associate with other furries at all? From who did you learn your furfag ways?

Will you draw Katia going on a date in Occupied Paris, 1941, with a Sergal for me?
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>>77330505
Lewd Enchantmen man
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>>77330568
The one that's posting new images instead of old ones.
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>>77330588
>>77330513

This. Or Quill and Katia doing lewd things. Either is fine.
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>>77330505
I cover more of the shipping charges for Mexico than any other country. It's because I feel bad for you guys.
I'm from Argentina, and I cannot currently even ship stuff from foreign countries. I can, but there's a fuckton of bureaucracy.
I would have bought around 30$ worth of stuff if it weren't for the pants on head retarded thing we have going on here with imports
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>>77330505
Requesting More alt characters being naked for no reason
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>>77330505
Draw your waifu with your husbando
Weedum-Ja with Derkeethus I know they're actually not but whatever.
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Remember that time a 12 year old was reposting Prequel to a random forum, while censoring and rewriting it to make more sense for other 12 year olds?
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>>77330709
I feel like I might regret this...

More?
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>>77330709
Yeah, I remember. I'm the one that told Kazerad. He never thanked me, but the images were amusing enough.

>>77330637
I support this
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>>77330709
When did this happen?
It's like Simple Wikipedia. Simply beautiful.
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>>77330779
My question is what were you doing on a forum for 12 year olds.
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>>77330327
Why are you reading Prequel, then?
Prequel is literally just an entirely narrative based quest.
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>>77330775
I don't have anymore saved
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>>77330709
>while you are drunk you go insane and do things you normally wouldn't do, but you don't remember any of it...
It brings me back to being a kid and not knowing shit about life, and expressing everything in these kind of terms

>implying I know about life already
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>>77330639
>I'm from Argentina, and I cannot currently even ship stuff from foreign countries. I can, but there's a fuckton of bureaucracy.
I would have bought around 30$ worth of stuff if it weren't for the pants on head retarded thing we have going on here with imports

Whaaaat! That is ridiculous. What is the problem with imports? I know some countries charge you additional money if you get more than a certain amount (I intentionally made sure I had a few tiers below this amount), but is there something else I'm missing?

>>77330779
Whoops! Now I feel bad. Can we consider this a three-years-late "thanks"?

>>77330697
>Draw your waifu with your husbando
>>77330680
>Requesting More alt characters being naked for no reason
>>77330588
>Lewd Enchantmen man
>>77330637
>This. Or Quill and Katia doing lewd things. Either is fine.

You guys can be more creative than this.
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>>77330425

how did you get

>Katia can't be the Hero of Kvatch because she's a perpetual fuckup and the Hero of Kvatch is a competent adventurer


from

>Things aren't so easy for Katia because she isn't a gods-empowered force of nature made flesh
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>>77330889
I just like male argonians and your style, man.
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>>77330513
Your imitation failed when you started using words like faggotry, tripfagging, and shitposting,
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>>77330836
I was looking for hidden katia art. I ended up finding that place and a few others. That one was the most interesting.

>>77330889
No I can't be. But you are welcome.
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>>77330889
>You guys can be more creative than this.
I used to, but then something died in me and only the superficial gratification of implied or explicit lewdness remains!
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>>77330889
Porn isnt really creative though. What do you expect aside from "Katia rubbing Quill's tail between her legs"
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>>77330889
Okay fine I wanted to leave it open but, draw Weedum-Ja feeding grapes to a lounging Derkeethus, while Katia and Quill-Weave put on a sock puppet show using sock versions of themselves, all for Derkeethus' amusement. Everyone is naked for no apparent reason and everyone but Derkeethus is visibly uncomfortable with the entire situation.
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>>77330889
Hey Kaz, quick question. Is the shipping to Spain to expensive? I´m digging the mooncat shirt, and i want to throw some money in your direction,
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>>77330709
That was so strange. If it had been a less obscure place I'd suspect it was Kaz or someone just had a weird idea and fucking around because it sounded kinda funny in their head, but I don't know.

What about how someone commissioned so much vore that people thought that was actually what the comic was about?That was actually a thing that happened, right? I'm pretty sure I remember it but there doesn't seem to be enough actual vore around to fit
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>>77330889
Draw a character in a snow-y place not being adequately dressed for cold weather.
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>>77330889
How about>>77330582 Occupied Paris?
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>>77330775
The thread got deleted after kazerad asked them to stop, but I found the website it was posted on.
The guy apparently attempted to do it again with another story copied from the MSPAforum, but got caught right away.
http://www.nairaland.com/1299633/tale-life-death-how-shall#15858226
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>>77330889
Draw a lineup of naked monsters celebrating tolerance and unity together. A dreugh, a bonelord, an ash zombie, and a hagraven, holding hands and smiling.
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>>77330889

I'm not that Argie anon but we can only buy 2 items each year and we have a limit of 25 dolars, if we pass the 25 dollars barrier we have to pay 50% of it's price.
Then we have to physically ask for our item with our data that could last weeks till they finally give it to you.

So it's a pain in the ass.
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>>77329368
Oh hey Jace got a fursona
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>>77330842
>Why are you reading Prequel, then?
>Prequel is literally just an entirely narrative based quest.
Yes, but it is done in its own website and the author have something that actually resemble talent, while most quest in /tg/ are a variation "I just watched this anime so lets make a quest out of it" or ERP, and in top of that they are really oversaturated, with over 20 of them going on.
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>>77330889
Draw Katia suplexing sigrid in the middle of the ring in front of a thousand screaming Katiamaniacs.
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>>77330889
>What is the problem with imports?
I cannot tell anymore. Basically, the Peso is internationally worthless (like most monies in the world, really), and our economy revolves around possession of dollars, or any stable foreign currency.
Ideally, the gov has foreign currency you can buy in pesos, but because of our economy, the government doesn't have much left, so people were kinda forbidden to buy foreing currency so as not to deplete reserves. They've also made it difficult to buy foreign goods, because every time I used a credit card the gov is forced to sell me dollars, because Paypal doesn't take pesos of course.

Basically, our money is only really worth something in this country. We aren't starving though, but quite constrained for buying cool swag


>>77331135
The last time I phoned the customs they told jme I had to fill a sworn statement on my taxed to retrieve the 1$ mousepad with pic related
And I made sure I was listening well, but maybe the employee was wrong
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>>77331123
Wait I found it on the internet archive

https://web.archive.org/web/20120803010122/http://www.nairaland.com/991272/journeys-alcoholicyoung-foolish-woman

>This is a fictional story that takes place in a old, European, fantasy setting. Some of the characteres are cat-people, orc, elves and other mystical beings.
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>>77331233
>Kaz
>talent

wew lad
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>>77331233
Over 20 of them going on but not at once.
And that is a blatant lies, there are plenty of proper scifi/fantasy quests. It's just confirmation bias making you say otherwise.
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>>77331066
Don't talk about that please.
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>>77331035
I didn't even know I wanted this.
kaz pls
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>>77331260
>animated GIF of African american man in 90s clothing, carrying a chair, with words expressing how entertaining this has the potential to be
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>>77331053
>Hey Kaz, quick question. Is the shipping to Spain to expensive? I´m digging the mooncat shirt, and i want to throw some money in your direction,

The shipping for that is $10 across Europe. The Apparel Pack (pictured) would be about 42 Euros total.

>>77331135
>>77331257
That is pretty sucky. Are there any loopholes? Like, do ordinary letter envelopes arrive okay?

>>77331035
>Okay fine I wanted to leave it open but, draw Weedum-Ja feeding grapes to a lounging Derkeethus, while Katia and Quill-Weave put on a sock puppet show using sock versions of themselves, all for Derkeethus' amusement. Everyone is naked for no apparent reason and everyone but Derkeethus is visibly uncomfortable with the entire situation.

I think this crosses the line from "unoriginality" into "fetishism".
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I honestly can't believe this argument is still going on. The argument shouldn't even BE about the plausibility of either turnout, they're both plausible in their own way. The reason that the hero of kvatch thing isn't going to happen is because it is horrible boring, cliche, redundant, predictable, and all around clashes with the entire tone and setup of the entire story and all it's characters so far. It's not a matter of plot accuracy, it's a matter of interesting writing.
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>>77331388
Well exactly none of it is my fetish so I dunno what to tell you.
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>>77330889
Huh, somehow I wasn't aware that infinity chan's /co/ has Prequel threads, too. How active are you on that site's /co/ compared to this one?
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>>77331388
Katia's feet
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>>77331388
Katia doing a cock push-up.
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>>77331388
Spaniarfag here. Thanks for the info. So, if i want to get the Appareal Pack, do i have to pledge the 35 $, go directly for the 42€, or what?

I can´t do it for a couple more days until i get paid, but i want the goodies.
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>>77331388
>do ordinary letter envelopes arrive okay?
I've never received a letter desu
I'll buy a postcard, and you'll know I'm the argie, and send it by regular mail

you make me feel special senpai
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>>77331281
>And that is a blatant lies, there are plenty of proper scifi/fantasy quests. It's just confirmation bias making you say otherwise.
Actually, I just looked up, and only 3 out of 20 are non-derivative i.e. fanfaction.
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>>77331436
Those are all subjective opinions, based on something that hasn't even happened yet. I think Kaz is good enough of a writer to make it interesting, he has like two years to do it, too. For all intents and purposes the comic is still in it's second act.
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>>77331388
People asking for lewds from you is pointless. You are just going to flip the request into something else.
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>>77331673

So it should be taken seriously because maybe, perhaps, with some luck, shot in the dark, it could turn out not to be a blunder?
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>>77331947
Yes well that's the fun part, though.
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>>77331947

This to be honest, family

Kaz, just do something softcore and stop pretending you have the guts to draw bare genitals embalmed in mutual, icky fluids
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>>77331947
I didn't even ask for anything sexual because I knew he wouldn't but I guess it's still too fetishy.
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>>77331947
Isn't that the point?
The wizard of oz doesn't give you what you ask for, he gives you what you need
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>>77332077
no, he gives you a bag of painted rocks and calls it what you need while you bleed out in the corner
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>>77331598
>I've never received a letter desu
>I'll buy a postcard, and you'll know I'm the argie, and send it by regular mail

I'm going to send everything at once after the crowdfunding is over, though, and if possible I'd like to let the Argentinian readers know ahead of time which orders can bypass their customs.

If you don't mind, drop me an email with your address. I want to send you a few dummy packages that roughly approximate the size and shape of the final merch (e.g. a blank tee, a poster-sized sheet of polyester, etc). If one gets caught in customs, just let it die there. If it gets through, though, we'll know shipping to argentina is possible. My email is [email protected].

>>77331566
Indiegogo should add the shipping charge automatically. Just click on the $35 perk, it'll be like "hey, this person lives in Spain" and charge you $42.
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>>77331388
How about Katia standing in front of the mage guild house, naked in the rain. It's a sideshot and due to the darkness you only see her silhuette.

the point is nipples
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>>77330577
It's a trap of course, mudcrabs can feel only hatred, the chocolate is poisoned.
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>>77332089
If you're bleeding out in the corner, lizard porn is the last of your worries
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>>77332128
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>>77323963
I want to fuck that lizard.
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>>77332092
That´s just awesome. Thanks man, keep the good work.

Honestly, like many other faggots here, i´ve been enjoying your work, and i get why you won´t make a patreon, so this merchan thing will finally allow me to pay something to express my gratitude for making a non-existant cat misserable.

Unless you kept for yourself the 2 bucks i sent last christmas for your lego campaing.
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>>77332129
it's my last request anon
also argonians a shit, gimme khajiit
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>>77331950
I think taking this whole thing less seriously would be preferable. Like I said before, I don't really care how Prequel ends. With Katia being thrown ina familiar jail cell, joining the Mythic Dawn, dying of rockjoint in a ditch, or goes back home to Hammerfell to reconnect with her parents. What I object to is this attitude of yours that having it end a certain way would be a 'blunder' and that it's necessary to berate anyone who comes to that conclusion.
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>That plagiarist guy added fandom bits of fanart to the story

lol
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>>77332212

Katia becoming the Champion is the one ending that would actually shit on the story so yes.
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>>77332349
why does that QW have a horn
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>>77332391
Because Katia makes her HORNY!
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>>77332391
It's better for sitting on Quill's head
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>>77332355
So you say. I disagree, and I think it would fit nicely into Katia's progression so far. She's made a lot of progress already, with a few more days to go until the Oblivion crisis. But again, her not being the protagonist would work, too.

I guess I just tend to keep an open mind when it comes to fiction. This whole argument reminds me of the reaction to Stannis burning her daughter in game of Thrones. Stannis fanboys kept howling that it was "character assassination", but I felt that it fit with how the show was handling his character. He grew more and more desperate as his bid for the Iron Throne failed. Yes, I know that's not how he is in the books, but I'm not one to automatically associate "less good" with "completely shit".
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>>77332197
>Unless you kept for yourself the 2 bucks i sent last christmas for your lego campaing.

Nah, they went to presents for some hospitalized kid and cost me 40 cents due to my 20% donation match. It was a lot of fun doing it, though, and with how the merchandise thing is progressing I shouldn't have much problem making art my job (at least, assuming I do more things like this in the future).

Get me that email, though, I want to get a handle on which things the Argentinian Mail Mafia does/doesn't hold ransom.

>>77332128
>>77332179
These two posts in sequence make me feel bad for the mudcrab.
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>>77330275
Honestly there's even an out with Quill-Weave in that it's repeatedly said that people think all Khajiit rook same.

If Katia has a significantly different attitude when she sees Quill-Weave in that Fighter's Guild Quest, and doesn't clue Quill-Weave in, then I'm pretty sure Quill-Weave wouldn't recognize her at all, and surely wouldn't go "You remind me of that drunken mess who kept fucking people in my bed"
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>>77332574

Katia's progression goes from a complete disaster into a normal, self respecting person, thats her actual journey. It makes it pointless for her to try to become a good person if she ends up tangled in a prophecy to do great deeds she doesn't need not to a homeless alcoholic slut to do and in the end will keep her from being that good, normal person.

>>77332939

But why the fuck would Katia simply stop being herself?
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>>77333032
>Katia's progression goes from a complete disaster into a normal, self respecting person, thats her actual journey
>But why the fuck would Katia simply stop being herself?
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>>77333032
She already did it once before. And being the Hero of Kvatch means she'd have to have faced her fears of Emperors wearing a very specific red diamond on their chest meeting her in a dark small room.

Also I don't think you understand how heroes work in the Elder Scrolls. She's not tangled in a prophecy, she's the only one -free- of prophecy. There was this whole talk in the temple about how everyone in the setting is subject to predestination EXCEPT a Hero.
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>>77333032
>Katia's progression goes from a complete disaster into a normal, self respecting person, thats her actual journey

That's just your interpretation. I'm not saying you're guaranteed to be wrong, but you really need to keep more of an open mind when it comes to a story that isn't even bloody finished yet.
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>>77332092
Kaz, can you draw Katia giving me a complement and giving me a thumbs up.

Name is Adam
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>>77333198
>fears of Emperors wearing a very specific red diamond on their chest
Of course she has that fear because of dreams of that same emperor wearing that same red diamond. Being the Hero would explain why she, of all people, gets those dreams.
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>>77333032
Does she genuinely strike you as the sort of person who'd be happy spending the rest of her days as a fisherman or something?
When she was robbed by a bandit, her first thought wasn't "I should report this to the proper authorities", it was "I should make my losses back by by raiding an Ayleid ruin". When an imperial guardsman dumped a pile of corpses on the floor while she was eating a formal dinner, she casually looted them. She once jumped out of a second-story window just because she thought it'd be cool.
She'll make a fine murderhobo, but I'm not convinced she'll ever be able to function as anything else.
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>>77333195

>meeting Quil Weave
>no the most important person so far in her search to change who she is

If she simply started acting like she never met her it would negate that change. Quil is the first true "friend" she had and who she will prove she's different.

And how about Martin? The most important person during the fucking crisis? Wouldn't it greatly change the PC's reaction to hear about the guy if they had already met? Or to know about the destruction of Kvatch at all? How could it be possible that this person would choose to ignore all of that and play dumb?

Just what kind of person would do that, and how is that person even Katia anymore?
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>>77333639
That's my point, though the Kvatch Guard captain having an identical dream only it's a Cultist seems like it really muddies the issue.

I'm pretty sure none of the Mythic Dawn Assassins are Khajiiti, and never can be, but it's still troubling.
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>>77334001
Or maybe you can just roll with that in this presumed fanfiction version of Oblivion those characters have had already met the protagonist? It wouldn't change the plot in any meaningful way.
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>>77334001
It's impossible to tell how the PC reacts to anything about anything. And Kvatch would be a place Katia kind of didn't like that much (aside from that kindly old Redguard guy) and Martin was someone Katia barely met due to instinctive terror.

Also assuming Katia never finishes her delivery to Quill-Weave, she could be too embarassed to let Quill-Weave know who she is, sort of like when it's revealed that Cloud really did visit his home town with Zack, but Cloud kept on his helmet because he was ashamed he was still only a grunt.
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>>77333891
>>Does she genuinely strike you as the sort of person who'd be happy spending the rest of her days as a fisherman or something?

she wants to be a wizard, she's stated multiple times. Magic attracts her. It's not really something all that extraordinary in Tamriel, it's a common career.

>>77334125

>don't take it seriously and just accept it's going to be the way i want it

>>77334167
>It's impossible to tell how the PC reacts to anything about anything.

you can, dialog options are not vague. PC acts like he's never met Martin before. And think about it, there's only two Khajiit in the town, only one female, and they don't look like they visit the chapel too often.

>Also assuming Katia never finishes her delivery to Quill-Weave, she could be too embarassed to let Quill-Weave know who she is, sort of like when it's revealed that Cloud really did visit his home town with Zack, but Cloud kept on his helmet because he was ashamed he was still only a grunt.

in the quest you basically threaten Quil and you can even end up sending her to jail. Would that option be there if the PC cared for Quil?
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>>77334341
Well the Hero can have any gender, race, class, and birth sign, but do they just materialize out of nothingness in their cell? They presumably came from somewhere, and Katia's story even if she does wind up being the Hero of Kvatch is just one of those potential somewheres, though obviously one where she probably didn't send Quill-Weave to prison.
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>>77327776
He's an Altmer, he probably actually believe the stuff he's spouting right now.
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>>77334341
>don't take it seriously and just accept it's going to be the way i want it

Like I've said many times, I'm fine with it going however. But this is fanfiction, fanfiction based on a game that (in theory) is supposed to allow the player to play how they want. After all, one can beat the main questline without having ever joined the Fighters Guild. In fact it always struck me as a bit silly that one can be the guildmaster of fucking everything in addition to saving the world from a Daedric prince (while also having done the bidding of all the others and even becoming one).

There's another webcomic/article thing I remember. The guy playing makes the ugliest fucker he can, and spends the entire game as a hapless nobody, doing petty jobs to pay for food and what have you until he died in a bandit attack or something and ended the playthrough. He did it again in Skyrim as that character's great great whatever grandson.
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>>77332867

>Live in Maryland
>Sitting at home
>Order a pizza
>Am told I need to go pick it up myself
>The delivery guy is kazerad and he doesn't want to drive tonight
>mfw Kazerad won't deliver
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>>77334341
>Would that option be there if the PC cared for Quil
why wouldn't it be? It wouldn't be the first time you can dick over something you built a bond with.
Just because you don't want to do something doesn't mean you couldn't do something
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>>77334553
>Well the Hero can have any gender, race, class, and birth sign, but do they just materialize out of nothingness in their cell?

you wouldn't believe how close you are

>>77334553
>just one of those potential somewheres

this is the entire reason why it doesn't work. The PC is you, not someone from the world. The PC has an impossible lack of knowledge and inference on the world. Katia is a character and already has stakes in it, you can't be Katia and not act like Katia, you'd be just pretending to be her, but you couldn't tell Quil you're that one Khajiit catslut and she won't believe what just happened but we hero now.

>>77334864

same argument as above, if you could fuck her over, why is that a posibility but not to try to reivindicate those relations? same for Sigrid, i bet SHE would remember Katia, specially after whatever clusterfuck is about to happen.
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>>77330889
Draw Fa-Nuit-Hen and the Barons of Move Like This
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Just a reminder: the Heros are spawned from nothing when they are needed and disappear back into that same dreamstuff when they have completed their task.
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>>77332092
I just moved into my first apartment with my girlfriend after getting my first full time job. So, I am unable to afford any merchandise. I was one of the ones bugging you about it for a while, and I'm was so excited to see everything! I just wanted to say thank you for offering all the neat stuff anyway, and I hope you are able to have an internet store open all the time at some point so I can buy something someday. Thanks for the webcomic, Kaz! I love it.
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>>77335473
Is that actually lore though? It sounds like it could be. But The Eternal Champion did not appear in the cell at the beginning of Arena. Also the Blades Agent in Hammerfell is a friend of the Emporer. In Morrowind you are born "at a certain time to uncertain parents." The reason you don't know about the land is not because you sprang into existence, but your sent there at the start. Only Oblivion really seems like this with the whole inexplicably not knowing stuff or having character connections.
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THIS THREAD IS A BASTION OF SIN
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>>77335792
What, are we talking about the comic too much? Sorry we don't have more porn for you.
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>>77335792
Needs more Fa-Nuit-Hen
>>77335696
They ARE created for the express purpose of being the Hero, and everything in their lives prior to the beginning of the game is completely irrelevant. It's like asking who was the guy the HoonDing took over was before he became the HoonDing. It doesn't matter, because he's the fucking HoonDing now so he's ALWAYS been the HoonDing.
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Huh.
I just remembered a command thing I had typed up about luck for the return trip back to Quill-Weave's.

This was years ago, before I realized how long we'd be in Kvatch.

Isn't there a term for this in TES? Something about a dragon bubble that tries to make sense of time being all fucked up from one point of view to the next?
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>>77336176
the Dragon Breaks involve a bunch of shit all happening at once that shouldn't be possible
Frequently they result in a new god or two being created, and basically everything just goes crazy.
The last big one created Talos, and the one before that created some sort of Lich-god or something, I haven't played Daggerfall.
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>>77336581
The one at the end of Daggerfall saved the team at Bethesda from having to pick a single canon ending.
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>>77336621
Ah. Fun. Mannimarco and the King of Worms or whoever had something wacky happen to them, right?
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>>77332867
Can you draw Azurah as a crazy cat lady; and hugging Katia, Rajirra, and S'Thengir. (aka her precious babies)
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VIVEC
E E
KEK
H H
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>>77336924

M'aiq wrapped on her neck, Jobasha sitting at her feet and Anhassi climbing up her leg
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>>77338149
Katia sitting on her face
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Draw Katia "steering" a massive dragon, bigger than the ship, and looking smug as fuck down at the elf at the wheel
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>>77336924
>>77338149
>>77338164
Rajirra sitting on Katia's face.
Quill weave wrapped around my dick. Ahnassi rubbing herself off against my leg.
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>>77338315

Do not penis the homo lizard, you will contract the queer and turn into gay dick
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>>77338463
That's fine. As long as i can then go penis the qt khajiit bartender so he contracts the queer and turns into gay dick.
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>>77338315
>>77338164
>>77338149
>>77336924
A very concerned looking Katia receiving drawing "advice" from the voices in her head.
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>>77338548
>Maybe you could just carve “Lelles’ Quality Merchandise” in fancy letters? He’ll give you maybe ten Septims if you do a good job.
>"Who are these people and why are they having sex on my sign?"
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>>77338548
A very aroused looking Katia trying to give deepthroat advice to a fascinated Quillweave while her throat is stretched around your head.
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Are you a cop?
You gotta tell me if you're a cop.
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>>77330505
>What do you want me to draw, anon?

Not that anon but I'd really enjoy seeing Katia during her previous "occupation" before she made the move to Cyrodiil
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>>77327308
mfw the criminals actually pull that card
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It's my birthday on the 9th, will Kaz manage to have the flash up before it's over?
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>>77338908
>Implying High Elf would put his genitalia anywhere near argonian slave-scum
It would be more of a blow to his cover if he went through with it.
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>>77339016
no
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>>77338796
inb4 cute weave blows his cover by being overly emotive
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>>77336657

if I remember correctly, Mannimarco did indeed become a god. The Necromancer's moon is proof of his apotheosis.

But it's not clear what happened after that. Some think that he was immediately set upon by other Akatosh-related divine beings and forced to become mortal again. Others think that Mannimarco ascended, but also left behind a mortal form that still ran around doing stuff.
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>>77338862

Cultist?

Sexy goat beheading and blood drinking?

That's actually a cool idea, naked katia covered in blood and looking deranged
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>>77339294
this is my fetish
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>>77339320
I've been meaning to sacrifice a goat at some point. We should organize a sacrifice/orgy at the next Prequel meetup
people better come dressed as Sanguine and Vivec
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>>77339364
>not dressing as katia
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>>77339408
So naked with some paint over the naughty bits?
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>>77335571
>girlfriend
I wish you the very best you fucking ingrate.
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>>77339320

Yeah i'm gonna second cultist kat of murder, it's something canon that sounds interesting and we don't know a lot of yet.

That or amusingly mundane scenes turned sexy like more the weird poison lady doing laundry butt naked, the argonian milf flirting with one of the guards after her son got in trouble or the bartender scrubbing the floor with his ass crack up in the air
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>>77339364
Kaz should take his merch profits to rent out a convention hall and fill it a few inches deep with goats blood. We've earned it and he owes us. I mean it shouldn't be that hard since you can buy a goat for like 150 dolla.
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>>77339408
>not dressing as Pelin-El
>>77339451
I have a shitton of images of that
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>>77339512

Next game pin better be bathed in goat blood and cat tears at least
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Sorry for the dumb question, but is Kazerad male or female?
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>>77341260
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>>77341260
The Hist knows
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>>77341270
Thanks
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>>77341270
>>77341260
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>>77341260
Kaz has a hemi-penis, a vagina, and a cloaca. Doesn't even make any sense! Suffice it to say it's porous as fuck down there.
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>>77341494
You saying that Kaz is a sea sponge shaped like a penis?
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>>77341494
>hemipenis

Ah geez snakes are fucking weird, man. If I understand correctly they have two strange dicks that come out of their pee buttholes.
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>>77341563
Yes. Or at the very least he has enough going on below the belt to set a person off with trypophobia.
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>>77341661
the cloaca is a beautiful thing
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>>77341661
and the females are usually larger than the males
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>>77338796
i didnt know elder scrolls had clicky pens
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>During mating, one hemipenis or the other is everted in a manner similar to taking off a sock
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>>77341832
What?
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>>77341832
tell me more
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This is gold
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>>77341704
lucky snakes
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Whoa shit nigga, don't let the thread fall off the board. Have a ket.
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>>77343324
Will she ever look in the mirror and see something she's not ashamed of?
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>>77343348
no
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>>77343348
Eventually I'd think so. Until one of her objectives goes exactly to plan, nope.
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>>77343348
Yeah.

She already kind of has.
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>>77342011
>>77332349
wait, someone found the link?
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>>77334553
>but do they just materialize out of nothingness in their cell?
Pretty much, yeah. The HoK is just another puppet to manipulate big events.
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>>77335571
Is this the mewtwo guy?

The one who had the katia-mewtwo thing?
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>>77343949
I've always liked to imagine that the player-characters in Elder Scrolls games are people who tried to achieve CHIM but lost their sense of self and are now enslaved by fate to be reborn mindwiped and anew to protect the dream
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>>77343975
If I remember right, they're usually puppets of Akatosh. Dragonborn and HoK definitely. That's why no one knows who the fuck you are this cell is supposed to be kept empty what do we do? he's not on the list

You basically just got shunted into existence to play your role.
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>>77343999
Wait, so the player is Akatosh?
Look I don't know shit about Elder Scrolls I just came here because /tg/ told me to.
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>>77344100
Why did they say that?
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>>77344111
Good comic. Also it was in relation to Kaz's blog post about tabletop RPGs.

This was like a year ago or something by the way.
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>>77344100
No, Akatosh is Akatosh.
The player characters are "people" made by him filled with a purpose. He doesn't control them directly.
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>>77344143
No, I mean the players, not the player characters.

Although that still gets roughly the same answer.
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>>77344154
Oh, no. It's not a meta thing.
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>>77343348
>Use Festive Holiday Disaster and become invisible
>Look at mirror
Yes
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Any fanart of Katia and vampire lady, preferably lewds
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>>77344671
e621 mang.
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>>77344700
Thanks
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is Quill-Weave attracted to Katia, is that why she helps her?
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>>77331066
I was going to bitch about how only humans had uvulas, but then I did some research, and while that's true, it seems that the uvula is an evolutionary adaptation to lubricate the vocal chords for speech. So if argonians have vocal chords instead of a syrinx, that is, they talk like a mammal and not like a bird, then a uvula makes sense.

Can you smell the autism?
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Porn updato baeboi (´∀`)
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>>77344867
aww yeah Pally, fucking gettin it <3
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>>77344867
funny, considering Katia is much sexually aggressive/forward when drunk
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>>77344867
>>77344930
http://www.prequeladventure.com/2011/08/enter-name-2/
>a young khajiit woman tackled you from out of nowhere, declaring that she was “horn and drunky” and “wouldn’t take no for an answer”.
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>>77344756
Anon, autism accurately describes the whole world.
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>>77344867
God damn, you ever consider taking commissions or something? You're like the only decent smutologist anymore, or at least the only good one with an online presence. Looking at you Red, you talented motherfucker ;_;
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>>77345014
Red pretty much only exist in the pixiv cat chat at this point. At least when we were allowed to have caturday threads he was easier to talk to/find.
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>>77324437
>>77324447
>>77324476
>>77326939
No, that's not how argonians work
If she is adult she is fucking adult because she has a soul inside of her that is most likely thousands of years old since Argonians reincarnate through HIST
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>>77345038
He was a jerk anyway
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>>77334553
>but do they just materialize out of nothingness in their cell?
Most likely yes.
>>77343975
That's not how CHIM works mang, loosing yourself has a name, zero summing.
You as in your I ceases to be.
>Protect the dream
People have this false belief that anyone wants to protect the dream.
There is not a single party in TES that wants that, all of them do not know of the dream and the ones that do without exception want to escape it/reshape it.
>>77343999
>If I remember right, they're usually puppets of Akatosh. Dragonborn and HoK definitely.
Akatosh is not sentient in any meaningful way ever since convention.


People have a really skewed understanding of how any of the Gods tie into heroes and in all honesty they basically don't, because they can't. The only deities that are what you would call conscious in TES are free Ada, Daedra and Talos, that's basically it, rest of the actions done by Aedra post convention are like random spasms that mostly happen during outbursts of worship and power like Akatosh at the end of Oblivion main quest.
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>>77345120
let me guess, he won't draw requests
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>>77326976

Fuck you dick. I want to see the main character succeed. Now, Katia is not mai waifu. I go for girls that are purple, are magical, and have hooves. And when that particular waifu went through a major change, I was pretty angry. Then I realized two things.

The first one was that I was autistic, because who the fuck gets angry about shit like that. Two, is that I should be happy for her - she got power, she got respect, so why shouldn't I cheer her along?

Same here. If Katia turns out to be the Hero of Kvatch, that she's gonna get thrown in the clink, then I would be happy for her. Why? Because she will eventually become Sheogorath.

You know what you sound like? "Grr! I'm sexually attracted to sad girls and am angry my waifu is not sad."
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>>77330258

>quests on /tg/
>fine
FUCK YOU AND FUCK THE HORSE YOU RODE ON YOU GODDAMN PIECE OF SHIT

Quests are the worst thing that happened to /tg/ and you're a fuckwit if you think otherwise.
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>>77345120
Don't be so hard on yourself redout :(
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>>77345145
>Because she will eventually become Sheogorath.
There is nothing happy about "becoming" the mad God. You become the surrogate body for the conceptual Et'Ada of madness to fill you.
She is not Katia at that point, it's not a cute Khajiit playing pretend in a God costume getting into silly shenanigans with her Argonian pal, she is Sheogorath on a metaphysical level.
More importantly as soon as she will fully fill her role she will never be able to leave Oblivion for Mundus, projecting lesser husk of avatars at best not to mention that all of her actions will not be her own anymore but dictated by the Sphere she fills as Et'Ada in the dream.
Champion of Cyrodiil becoming Sheogorath was him getting into an even more restricted cage, the kind of cage that molds you and reshapes you into something else.
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>>77330258
quests literally killed old /tg/
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>>77345141
No, I didn't care about that. It was how he acted around others.
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>>77345203
mods did long before
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>>77345145

Get dunked ponyfag, it's not about how happy or sad she is, it's about her worth as a character and as a story.
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prequel will probably end once the main events of oblivion start because it stops being a prequel then
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>>77345228

How so?
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