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Topic-Sites. How do you prefer your comic sites? What features? Anyone know RSS? How did you design yours and why the way it is?
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/
>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed
>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/
>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)
>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#
>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.
>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo [Embed]
>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/
>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf
>>81538029
whoa, 100 threads in hexadecimal! that's an achievement
Soory about inundating you guys with progress pics, didn't know that bothered you guys so much. But can I get some advice on getting smooth lines? Do i need some sort of stabilizer or something. i'm on PhotoShop btw
>>81538472
principal*
photoshop can use lazynezumi as a stabilizer plugin. i like the stabilizer from mangstudio, me..
hmm her tits seem slightly high
basically you need to make fast sweeping lines if you really want it to work.
Trying to work on a page, but REALLY struggling to picture what I want with the environment/background. Bleh.
Not this page, but the next page.
>>81538029
repostin with my new shit after
>>81539172
to all those who dont know
i freehand on mspaint
>>81539194
i'm about to work with the dewd on some shit because he's on top
>>81539217
aaaand the new shit
>>81539247
a scrapped idea, i gave up halfway through
tell me what you think of this exact thing
>>81539275
this right here is me just going off
its part of the story
but i dont know if i should continuously follow through
this is prescott defending the daughter
>>81538762
i like this page at least
>>81539362
didnt you skip a bit
>>81539362
left to right
sergei (hoping for a danish name), prescott, and guapo
sergei is a criminal arms dealer whos actually tsundere because why the fuck not
im all about fucking around with ideas
prescott dont look it, but he got $$$$$ he was ontop of that marketing shit
guapo is a straight up pedo i expect to kill off because fuck him
what should i do to make these characters better?
i was thinking of adding a fourth in the group
ps prescott earned that legit buck
>>81539408
yeah i did skip,
that was just a thing i wanted to work on
like a side thing
its not exactly part of the comic its just to get a feel for action scenes
i leave you with a fucking boring joke
thus concludes my shit:
>>81538472
Wish I can help you
as you can see I just go for the nitty gritty,
if there's one thing I can tell you, this is probably tablet work right?
I can see confidence in your strokes, so if you mean smoother strokes? you're good as a motherfuck.
I personally don't see a problem.
See: >>81538762
He goes for that rough draft approach, feel?
But it is a rough draft.
>>81539600
i fucking like this joke
and i think i dont mind the bit about the dudes with the baby.
i was gonna implement some mutated anthro animals but i dont want to cater to furries,
>>81540296
but i decided against the idea
:)
>>81540324
he was talking about the vest
he was supposed to be a dude trying to be a bad guy but he wasnt
he becomes likeable and youre like well shit he's alright but he gets fuuuuuuuuucked
also: >>81539658
is this too much for a joke?
>>81540376
nah i love that joke
able to tell whats happening in 4th panel?
>>81540995
yeah it's pretty clear
maybe the scarycritters (are they supposed to be scary versions of cat ghost?) could be more distinct, with more stark white outer edges... and maybe one instance of 'kill johnny' could actually be fully legible
>>81540995
the background as shit
also dude,
yeah johnny is kill or kill johnny?
One thing I noticed AND I AM definitely not the person to point this shit out, but expression is missing a ' because you put ' on the o...
>>81541210
>>81541547
I need to learn to do things like panel 4 better. going to be more of it.
I kinda feel like making some short animations. Got any recommended software, or should I just go with Photoshop CS6?
>>81541868
i don't think the underlines help.
>>81541971
newest version of clipstudio actually has animation capability!
not a webcomic just a fancomic in-progress
1/5
>>81541868
By the way fucksmith,
you should get into translating those into japanese
I feel you'd get a following in J-land
seems like the kind of shit they would enjoy,
you adopt the kind of style they would dig,
if you want, we could talk shit on skype,
let me get to know you, bounce some ideas of each other, and I can hook you up with a translator for cheap
In terms of getting out there, what exactly are you plans/what do you do?
I am seeing some consistency with your work,
you update pretty often.
>>81542119
2/5
>>81542469
>>81542496
you know, every so often someone decides "rubber suit kaiju stuff is so silly, it needs to be made more badass" with varying results. some of the 'bad' results i actually like quite a bit
but this..
this is faaaantastic. this is fucking awesome.
i would buy a fucking print of >>81542516 if i had aaany money
>>81542516
i just really like anguirus
I was always a bit concerned that trying to cram four rows worth of story into a page would be too much, but I'm finding it's not so bad.
To answer the thread question, one feature I like in comic sites is arrow key controls to switch between pages.
>>81542119
>>81542469
>>81542496
>>81542516
>>81542561
JESUS CHRIST....
WOW...
>>81542516
Well god damn that's fucking rad
>>81542561
i've always been more of an armadon man
i bet you could get midway (or i guess theyre owned by warner bros now) to pay you to do a primal rage comic. drum up interest in that again.
>>81542699
ooh i hate that. i often use the arrows to force a stubborn page to scroll when it's not listening to my mouse inputs
>>81542554
>>81542718
>>81542854
>>81543092
thanks yo.
i love the idea of the age alluded to in godzilla 2014 where mutos and godzillas were killing & eating each other and adding anguirus and rodans and baragons all over the place in a primordial ecosystem would be rad for the sequel.
Finally got around to seeing Batman v Superman. Jesus christ I was not ready.
>>81541995
shit lmao bolding the letters might've been better
>>81542186
hit me up on email if u want[email protected]
As for goals, just looking to get a steady comic going.
>>81543674
oof. that strip's gonna age really well
>>81543718
naw i think the letters are fine, just shrink some of them down so one full instance of 'kill johnny' is visible. at least one. preferably towards the bottom so it's before he goes 'who's johnny?'
actually it'd be better if they were gray towards the top, less obtrusive.. then fading to white and more legible as you go down.
What's a good excuse in a sci-fi/adventure setting for the villian to trap the heroes inside the 1939 Wizard of Oz film? How and why does he do it?
>>81544521
woof. aside from incredibly complex computer simulations, i can't imagine justifying being trapped inside a film in a scifi setting. that's straight up magic, yo.
but if you DO mean holodecktrap then uhhh he does it because .. because HE is the one that secretly hung himself in the background of that one shot!
except as they point out to him, that isnt what happened. and he'd be dead if it was
NO I WOULDNT
etc. he's just nuts. also he's a theaterfag and wants to be dorothy
>>81543674
Amateur mistake, you NEVER use lowercase in your fonts.
>>81544725
whoa check it out, we got a real Benjamin D'Israeli in here
>>81538029
I want some input on an idea for a setting that I have.
Most of the people live in an ancient Roman inspired society. There are Arena battles and people wear togas. But there are also some fantasy creatures like giant scorpions and dinosaurs, and a few people that end up rediscovering the lost art of magic.
And one of the tribes uses advanced technology that the others shun.
I know it seems like hodgepodge, but is there anyway to make it all work together?
>>81544800
sounds like it already works fine. ancient rome fits fantastically with all that shit, who's to say it didnt have it already? certainly medieval europeans thought it did. and as for the advanced technology, yeah.. again compared to later europe, pretty much.
>>81544800
Caesar being assassinated with lightsabers by lizards and dinosaur people sounds cool, Robot Mark Antony fighting the battle of Actium against Octavian with bigass dragons and flying ships in place of galleys sounds fucking awesome
part-2-ier than usual, this one was going to be the second half of the previous, but fuckit. it works.
maybe i should drum up attention by getting prrromotey like some people here do. like 'it's a wet and wild comic this time as hel discovers puddles and laughing heartily at the misfortune of clowns and wolf pikes don't mix! will Mizuumi continue to use her extremely OP powers in Zu Lake? how much longer will the sun stone's effect hold out? does Kimchi really care or does he just want to make stupid puns on the names of cities in Russia?
>googles
Finland. cities in finland. Well just the one really. though I guess there would be others with hel in them, wouldn't there.. what was i thinking of.. is there like, a helsingrad? is that in russia by way of finnish people?
>>81543784
Gonna age like hot milk but I had to. I needed to for me.
>>81545687
at least it's pop culture and not politics.
honestly i'm surprised i'm not seeing much cleverness surrounding this particular flop. something deep and meaningful about something people have been wanting to see for 70 years was destroyed by very modern ills, yet we've never lived in an age before where the system was set up to even allow it as a viable concept. our current movie culture is lifting things up with one hand and smashing them with another.
will fix the colors later
>>81538472
love seeing your progress m8
beckys side view is a bit too off
>>81538762
will you be filling in the negative space with environment?
>>81539121
this is on hell of a story
>>81540995
>able to tell whats happening in 4th panel?
absolutely, thought why its happening is a bit muffled,
id make the background just a bit lighter, so thomas's bubble doesnt get lost in it, make the other ghosts' outlines a tiny bit thicker so they pop out from the words, and make the mantra vary greater in sizes to it's both more chaotic and readable
>>81542516
dude
>>81544725
i actually prefer regular lettering to caps lock, it feels more grounded and the actual caps lock parts have more impact
>>81546159
>>81543830
true. thoughts on next? cleaned up a lot of unnecessary dialogue.
>>81546386
liking the effect of thomas' bubble in 2nd panel, would switch "stop" for "ow" instead its more a reflexive reaction to a sudden strike
and switch out "we're at school, rest elsewhere" for "does it have to be right there!?" or something because thats the kids biggest problem with it
third panel is both thomas and kid's thoughts? a bit weird
anyway id change it to an over-the shoulder view of the kids face and thomas' is hidden mumuring to himself in his own thoughts "that actually stings!"
that way the kid becomes the focal point of the panel, and the cat seems to not see it coming
take of it what you will
>>81546386
>>81546638
i would move 'that actually stings' to the second panel (moving the 'stop' over to the left to make room) and make the third panel him just reeling a bit. among other things that'd leave room for the kid's text in place of the cat's.
>>81546745
>>81546638
Thanks, that's cleaner.
>>81547177
oh way better
glad to help
i mentioned in the last thread but id really like to see the kid fleshed out
anyways goin to bed, 'nite guys
>>81544725
Why not? Honest question
>>81548291
iirc capital letters are faster to read and easier to differenciate even between fonts
>>81548319
I think that kind of thinking may be a throwback to the old days of paper printing, when the lower quality newsprint would mean the lines could be a little fuzzy, so block capitals would be easier to make out.
With modern digital screens and printing this isn't really an issue anymore, but you still need to choose a font that's clear and easy to read, and suitable for the strip you're making.
>>81542561
Great work
been researching artificial intelligence in real world scenarios, revising my script to correct a few details here and there, so right now I am piecing together my storyboard with Clip Studio for the first time.
I wanted to share it with you guys, it's rough, and corrections will be made but here it is!
2/5
3/5
4/5
5/5
and as an added plus another Tomo redesign, because getting robot joints right is half the fun!
Drawin annabeth more. I think I've got it down now.
I thought about that goblin porno on Slipshine and thought that annabeth should be that cute kind of ugly like that. Though, it's been like, a year sense I've seen that comic.
On to page 29.
>>81549815
>>81544786
The medium is the images, not the text, please don't affect the artist's work by distracting your readers with the text.
>>81546159
>it feels more grounded and the actual caps lock parts have more impact
that's what size and specially drawing the actual letters is for.
>>81551412
Your panel composition is a bit strange. The robot is important and the first "out of place" element in your opening pages, but they're out of focus and introduced in a way that's both stiff and lacks clarity. That would work just fine if you're building tension or trying to obscure them, but it seems like you want to make them feel "normal". You don't have to make a big deal about them, but introducing the robot in a relatively small shot where their back is to the audience doesn't flow well and the "close-up" on the side of their face is strange when things are pretty calm and we still haven't seen their face from the front.
>>81551422
The next page continues the trend of keeping the robot far from the camera or obscured, which reads awkwardly with all these other big close-ups of the other two characters. The framing also keeps jumping from shot to countershot, which is a little disorienting since you keep zooming in and out on this page.
>>81551436
This page's composition is pretty good, but there's a few oddities. You keep the camera trained on a character in a single spot while her dialogue balloons converge on the margin. This is a bit strange and, if you want to keep that carrying dialogue instead of moving the balloons, would probably work better with a new shot in the second panel that shows the reaction you display in the third. Also, the fourth panel would be stronger if the audience could see what the robot is now busying themselves with, as that adds clarity instead of the ambiguity of "robot looks away and down...ish".
Your character art is pretty good and your instincts are a lot better than most artists in the thread (keeping the camera in motion for still scenes and varying your vantage points and level of focus), but you could still work on your clarity, smooth out your transitions, and do a bit more to set the scenes themselves instead of just the mood. Solid work.
i finally updated up to this one page
>>81554824
Text and image work together in comics. An inappropriate font choice (whether hand drawn or digital) is just as distracting and detrimental to the story as poor composition and pacing. Some stories may work better with lowercase lettering, or even cursive, than all caps block printing.
>>81548319
I thought it was the other way around, since words have no "shape" when reading all capitals.
On another thought, why is it that all-caps in comics is fine, but when people do it on websites, it's annoying as fuck?
>>81542561
Y'know, you always impress me. Your style walks that thin line between stylishly cool and potentially edgy but it never falls into edgy proper. It helps that you have great taste in kaiju too.
WYRM sounds like an easier intro concept to work on than BONEMAN, even though it may have less crazy cool mythology going on. Regardless, I look forward to seeing what you've got on the docket.
>>81544800
You could make it work all together if you got the aesthetic down right. Make it feel like a Ray Harryhausen flick and nobody will doubt it as an homage to the Sword & Sandal films of yesteryear. You might also be able to get away with it by making the dinosaurs come primarily from Africa, because African cryptids tend to follow the lost dinosaur variety. Paint them up a little, have them sold by the African Kingdoms of the times alongside slaves; or have them be gifts from the tribute states of Egypt.
For magic, depending on the time period; have scrolls for the chakras of ancient Hinduism, as well as some Fire Worship religions exist. Maybe have the Roman/Greek Four Humours work only on inward magic (or rather bringing out the best in human potential) whereas foreign magi works on an outward level by working on concepts rather than the self. So a Greek might be able to have lots of children thanks to magic, but only a foreign wizard could use magic to make sure his children were blessed by the divine.
>Advanced Technology
How advanced? Guns and power armor should be right out, but rods that shoot lightning or a lingam stone that functions like a nuke could work well. Atlantean tech maybe also? I'd say have it function like high tech, but never reveal the truth. You don't want to kitchen sink the setting.
>>81551393
is this the blind girl thing?
>>81553199
good job making the lines different heavinesses so you can keep track of the scene. there's some decent depth here. even if each tank looks a bit flat individually
>>81553183
well at least that nose works better in 3d
>>81551475
oh hmm the robot is taller now. neat. yeah clothing the joints in something flexible like that is pretty realistic actually
>>81555383
for* this
comma between point and ducke
thieves' league's sayings
good stuff as usual man
>>81555532
cute as BALLS> is this yours?because it has some typos.
>>81558488
That's a page from Craig Thompson's "Good-bye, Chunky Rice". I added it as an example of a strip that uses lowercase lettering, and which wouldn't look the same if it was lettered in all caps. I should have been more specific on that point.
>>81538029
started on a new page today but i got a lot of stuff to do today so i might not finish it until tonight, unless i go ahead and finish it before i leave today
>>81558595
i can't believe people took the 'must do all caps' anon seriously enough to reply
Which do you guys think if better in general?
Sai or Photoshop?
And can you recommend any beginners tutorials for either?
>>81559905
Photoshop. SAI is obsolete compared to other programs. If anything, you should use Krita instead of SAI, since it's basically an open-source Photoshop.
>>81559905
photoshop, but mangastudio/clipstudio is better than photoshop in every way except its coloring tools
>>81560145
Clipstudio is really bugged on my tablet. I dont know if it's my calibration but it's way off whenever I use it
>>81558458
>fou
Chantelle is supposed to have a french-russian accent. Coldfusion helped me with proof reading on this and other pages, and mentioned bits like that but i forgot to discuss with him good ways to make a character's different way of speaking more apparent for the reader, easier in the original dialogue but here i'm not so sure if i should continue with that, i don't it to be perceived as tacky.
>>81559905
sai for art, its simple and lightweight on your pc (which is great if you have a shit comp like i do), with a built in stabalizer and very simple interface
>>81560473
ohh. Hmm i'm not sure how you should write for in a french or russian accent.. all i know is when or becomes ou i think of homestarrunner
>>81559905
sketchbook pro~!
So I'm writing random pieces here and there, and I'm wondering if the line ''You will want to kill me, and I will want to kill you'' sounds right
>>81561889
this versions better
>>81562013
It's a fairly straightforward way to communicate the concept of future mutual homicidal urges.
Can't think of a more elegant way to do it, anyway.
>>81562217
yeah...
guy is that what you were going for? because i can't imagine a scenario in which someone wants to exrpress to another person that they WILL want to kill each other sometime later
>>81549815
>>81555913
maybe what i recall is a common misconception, but its not only seen in print, teachers and the like often write in all caps too for those reasons
>but when people do it on websites, its annoying as fuck?
i guess because we're used to comics being in caps, but on the internet caps lock is yelling, informal and try hardy
personally im iffy on caps in both,
ehats really annoying is fuckin needlessly bold accentuated words every other sentence
>>81562364
Yeah
>because i can't imagine a scenario in which someone wants to exrpress to another person that they WILL want to kill each other sometime later
Well I just did, I was just wondering if there's another way of saying that, because to me it sounds a little awkward
>>81562364
i thought of it as like the common quote of "listen, you hate me and i hate you.."
>>81562683
it depends on context but sounds fine, however if anything it could be
A voices their desire and B says they reciprocate
>>81562683
>it sounds a little awkward
It's a bit of an awkward concept, so that seems about right.
will your comic impact culture?
>>81563317
it's hard to define what even impacts culture nowadays, it's almost as if it's picked totally at random, I'm just doing the best I can at making an appealing comic.
>>81553199
spectacular job, anon! i hope you go far!
>>81563317
whoa i didnt even think that big
id be hype just to get a small following and fan art
>>81562050
bump
page art is basically done
>>81564867
>blurs over a picture of a city
>adds weird geometric shapes to it
Crappy and gay
>>81565001
yeah it's best not to reply to bones
>>81565001
son....
i cant believe how stupid you are, everything i do i do for speed over quality, im in a hurry to be done with this chapter because i hate drawing giant monsters fighting in a real life city like L.A. which is where this is taking place right now
after this chapter is done im keeping everything and everybody normal human sized
also i dont trace and i dont use stock images
>>81565012
I come here TO reply to Bones.
>>81565575
>i cant believe how stupid you are
I can't believe how bad in general you are. Usually bad artists have redeeming traits, whether it be writing skills or the ability to respond to criticisms. You have no redeeming traits other than you're a lolcow.
>everything i do i do for speed over quality
I'd say it shows but it doesn't. Your "rushed" stuff is every bit as bad as your other stuff.
>im in a hurry to be done with this chapter because i hate drawing giant monsters fighting in a real life city like L.A
Maybe you shouldn't be an artist if you don't like to draw things outside your comfort zone.
I'm drunk at a bar alone and I'm drawing
Waiting for some friends
I drew my charas younger in case I wanted to explore and do some flashbacks
>>81565937
good times, man. if more people were like you i'd be a bar person
>>81565750
thanks for the review of my lifetime of artwork, i will take it to heart and try and become better 4chan stick figure artist
Man, I just I can't into this page.
I figure I just gotta get the dialogue in panel 2 to not be complete badness and then it's just about making everything look neat.
>>81566710
i think 'sharp enough to shave with' makes it sound.. well, less weird.. even though it's supposed to sound weird to the other character
>>81566710
>>81567044
could instead of can makes it sound more like an analogy that could be misunderstood instead of a statement
>>81564867
and its done, hope yall like it, more pages here: http://demonjuice.thecomicstrip.org/
>>81567044
Yeah, you're not wrong. Gonna put that in the notes.
>>81563485
>>81558398
Thanks. I'm trying to think more 3d.
>>81566710
this is my favorite strip so far
its so damn cute
also agree with >>81567044 on keeping the original wording
>>81564867
how old are you bones?
you have the heart but you need to realize its important to learn the necessary tricks of your trade my man
your characters look pretty good. you do a great job at conveying their emotion through body language. you should be proud of that! but rushing through backgrounds just makes for work that will be judged poorly regardless of any effort you put else where.
if this comic is just a training ground for you
then keep doing what youre doing
but if you want to poor your heart into something
step back and keep training like me
one day ill be ready
i just picked up on perspective finally after years of putting it off
its actually WAY easier than you think.
you got this bones!
>>81567649
pour*
>>81567649
im the same exact age as rebecca sugar is, find out how old sugar is and you find out how old i am
thanks for all the compliments and advice but this comic is free, so can you not understand how weird it is when people bitch and complain about it and hate on it for no reason? ITS FOR FUCKING FREE! WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT FOR NOTHING???? FFS! lol
i dont care, hate or love it im going to keep on making it and loving every minute of it, even though i dont like drawing giant demon gods in los angeles, i still love making pages of demon juice ya know?
>>81565910
His legs are a bit too short for my taste
>>81567850
yeah
HYWC has turned into a critique your web comic thread
such is life though
>>81567898
the legs are already heavily scaled up compared to a human
The Sisters updated!
http://thesisters-comic.com
https://tapastic.com/episode/325926
The last chapter of the arc begins. Writer's helpin his grandfolks, I'm on vacation.
How's everyone?
basing characters off of exaggerated traits from your own personality can do some strange shit to you mentally
but it produces authentic/enjoyable results
>>81568214
post proof
>>81568214
>can do some strange shit to you mentally?
What do you mean?
I'm using this method for my comic
>>81568128
wow. i was not expecting.. that to be.. how he figured out she knew.. and how they reacted. damn. that is fucking awesome. it's like mixing every possible way it could have gone into one satisfying package
as for the art, since it's you, i was VERY able to follow what was going on, so nice job. also always nice to see titties.
>>81568214
One of my first characters was heavily oriented at some of my core character traits. Sometimes I blushed if people told me they'd be attractive.
But generally all of your characters probably share the one or other trait with you. That's only natural as you're their creator and want to relate to them.
>>81568630
i think a good balance to to practice everything
practice making charas you can relate to
try something way out of your comfort zone
research heavily into these new aspects, cultures, ect.
as a writer/artist you are not only that but also an entertainer, researcher, historian, psychologist ect.
>>81568254
>>81568290
>>81568630
it is a great technique and i encourage everyone to try it&apply it.
ive taken my zquil but ill be back to respond at length about this when i wake up. its a topic that deserve my full attention.
Rebecca actually talks about basing characters off traits of yourself and exaggerating them! Even if a character may be based off someone you know, you only know how you feel inside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLm342T6QS8
>>81568971
fuck rebecca, she's shit
>>81568072
Yeah I think that's what they were getting at.
People don't just criticize directly anymore.
>>81571601
oh hahaha
i probably would have gotten it if the legs were long, as opposed to just big
WIP of the next page.
>>81558082
yes!
>>81571791
Improve your art by a lot more than you claim to have.
This is not trolling.
someone in the last thread suggested to get creative with the thread setup
maybe for the 300th thread we can draw a new pic for op
>>81571791
should either be 'have .. to help me out' or 'had.. help me out'
>>81571841
did you just start an imperative sentence with 'improve'?
dead thread, dead comics
Just a lil' experiment.
>>81573214
theres been more and more promising comics in these threads
>>81573550
you mean less and less. look at these dead threads.
>>81571870
>new pic for op
God, yes
it's so boring
>>81573804
>Thinking these threads are dead
Clearly we don't go on the same boards.
>>81573550
how do I start up a promising new comic?
>>81558398
I believe the arms are going to be a bit of a challenge, but I think they will help with the realism of the design the most. I also added the thick cloth to the whole armature because I think that would protect people from getting their hands crushed with its joints and also because that makes it the easier to access the inside components for adjustments and troubleshooting.
he isn't going to be that much taller since that makes it easier to adapt to various spaces, also he has to look friendly and a robot that is taller than you may intimidate people.
>>81574898
well if he's not that much taller than before then that means you made him a LOT thinner.. because i recall him being wee before.
>>81542469
Holy shit that's good you ever thought of going pro I wouldn't mind seeing a full IDW Godzilla series with this art
>>81568128
HOLY SHIT!
that was unexpected, bold, and masterfully done!
wow! 10/10 page!
>>81576661
she's like some kind of wonderfully fucked up james bond
>>81551393
Clean the drawing up soon so I can see her bare feets!
When making a short one-off for people to get to know the characters while having something happening in the story that doesn't matter much to the overall plot, does having the script be 50+ pages long a bad thing?
>>81577709
pages of script = pages of comic?
>>81578108
No, what I'm doing is writing it all on the notepad, I just copypasted the entire thing on MSWord to see how many pages it would fill and it gave me 40, I've yet to finish the first draft.
>>81578241
that's pretty insanely long dude. that's like a fifth of a novel
>>81577709
Probably. It shouldn't be hard to get to know the characters, and getting the basic jist of them shouldn't take 50 pages. In 50 pages we ought to know who they are around their friends, people they tolerate, and when they're alone; ideally. If it is a short one off, you ought to be able to cover one of those in much less.
>>81578241
I guess it depends on how much of it is dialogue and how much of it is what the characters are doing. If you're overindulgent on stage direction as it were, that might account for the length. I'm sure once you think about how long in pages you want it to be you'll be able to trim it down to the parts you need.
>>81568448
Well, we're glad you liked it. It's only going to get worse from here. Always happy when people are able to follow what is happening.As for why that's the way he found out, it really ought to say more about Erin. And this whole issue is really giving her some very much needed character development.
>>81568214
Eh, it's not too bad. Just takes accepting a lot of your bullshit. The Sisters are based a lot on my experiences of growing up with a lot of brothers, in terms of crassness and secrets. The villains are...a lot like I am when I get really stressed out, taken to a far more obscene level.
>>81576661
>>81576700
I'll take that. It was nice to build up to that moment, because much like killing Scott; this scene was a long time coming. And it's only going to get worse from here.
>>81578324
Well, a good deal of it is pretty much describing action scenes, character actions and settings, also, quite a bunch of short lines separated by thick lines like MSWord loves doing.
Even then it's the first draft, I got a lot to iron out.
>>81578417
basically we can't really answer til you can say how much comic that translates to
>>81578484
it's never going to translate to a comic. like 99% of every other idea here
>>81538623
>photoshop can use lazynezumi as a stabilizer plugin
oh man, I'm trying it out and it really makes a tangible difference. Thanks dude.
>>81578548
fuck you
>>81578563
if it gives you probs talk to the creator. he is awesome and gives feedback and assistance
>>81578672
why don't you prove me wrong then faggot?
oh wait, you won't. because with each passing day and each road block your enthusiasm will wane, until you feel more dread than joy from opening the .txt file. when the next dazzling idea comes you'll abandon it and tell yourself it'll be "for later", but you and I both know that "later" is never coming.
With this new character I'll have finally introduced all the characters I designed when I first thought up Ennui GO!. The main cast will finally be complete. Pretty pleased about that.
http://ennuigo.smackjeeves.com/
>>81578799
Will do. So far it's working really well.
>>81578838
You sound really jaded. Did what you describe happen to you?
>>81578868
oh lawd, a clown. this looks like it's gonna be great
the bottom left kinda runs into the.. maybe you should move the url just this once.
>>81578928
you mean it never happened to you?
>>81578993
Yeah I noticed that too. I'll change and re-upload it tomorrow.
>>81578996
If 4chan exists and we're in it then yeah, I guess you could say we've all tasted failure, and we have it as a regular meal, what I wonder is whether the universe constantly feeds me against my will or if I'm literally blind to what do I do wrong and leave myself open for more failure.
I just don't get it, things in my life just don't work, I read the manual, I saw a video fix, I took advice from the internet on how to make friends and get gfs, I lift, I try to be nice, yet I just can't, I might as well do the opposite because it gives the same effect anyway, it's why I draw, it's the only thing I feel like I'm in control.
how do i get patreon bux for my comic?
>>81579148
>I just don't get it, things in my life just don't work, I read the manual, I saw a video fix, I took advice from the internet on how to make friends and get gfs, I lift, I try to be nice, yet I just can't, I might as well do the opposite because it gives the same effect anyway, it's why I draw, it's the only thing I feel like I'm in control.
where can I find this manual and video fix?
>>81579224
>>81579148
>>81579148
cry a river to anyone who cares, "but your being a dick anon!" if you feel miserable then get over yourself, get to know "you" before dealing with anything in life. "but that doesn't help me anon!" you know yourself the best work with what you have and pursue what you love, don't blame others for your shit.
get to work. MOVE IT.
>>81579148
>>81579224
it's a little our fault, but not our fault enough to feel bad about. just try to be the opposite of those people that have collectively fucked over your life
>>81579171
Draw porn or fetish shit for patrons
>>81579148
>29 year old NEET living with parents
>my comic is the only thing I have
>no one reads it anyways
Hello!
Hungry for Will Draw for Food?
Here's an early hor d'ourve
>>81579791
FFFFFFFFFFFF
dammit now i'm hungry
I use manga studio 5 (clip studio paint), i like to do everything by "hand", does anyone know any good brushes for texting? Or good brushes in general if it has any?
>>81580127
it has great brushes. obviously you want to use a 'pen' setting for writing. solid lines, little if any feathering
>>81542561
>>81542516
>>81542496
>>81542469
>>81542119
haha christ dude, just when I'm feeling good about my monster. This is awesome.
>>81579545
but these are the years of your life you can look back on later and laugh maniacally from the heights of success
right?
>>81579791
now if only food could do the drawings for us-
>>81578563
desu your characters look p fuckable
>>81569902
>am i cool guys? do i fit in?
>>81581146
agree
>>81581012
>>81581095
oh man dem eye lasers.. a lot more powerful than i thought
>>81580969
night terrors eh? the plot thickens.
>>81574605
execution
have decent to great art to start with, for that work on your fundamentals, THEN styalization
have okay to great writing, practice prompts, read all forms if literature, and bounce ideas off others, like we do here
make sure your elevator pitch (=quick summary or premise) sounds interesting, equally, your pages and opening, once you have someones eyes, the art and writing should take care of the rest to make them stay
something like that, id like to think
>>81566710
sorry i couldn't resist... :x
>>81582911
I don't really get it*, but thanks!
*like, she's asking if Skeggöld wishes she had a beard so she could shave it?
Pic unrelated.
>>81583189
please forgive my dirty ass mind, i read your whole page as skeggold shaved her cat fur
like it was all one big bald eagle joke, lol i read that all wrong, so sorry
making progress~
>>81583763
>those hips
Wasn't this supposed to be a "guy" robot?
>>81583827
he doesn't have any defined "sexual orientation" but I wanted the design to be as friendly and approachable as possible. hence why the delicate figure and small body build.
also, gotta put them servos and sensors somewhere
>>81583953
Yeah I didn't mean to imply it had a real sense of gender identity or anything, just that as a reader, my first instinct would be to refer to it as "she" and read its speech with a female robo-voice because of the wide hips, narrow shoulders and bust-like chestplate. Why's it a "he" in-story?
>>81583953
Your design is too simple for its own good and has all the natural signs that read as "girl" to a reader. If you were going for delicate but androgynous, you missed it by a mile. This robot is very feminine.
>>81583953
>>81584538
you could just make it a 'girl' robot, actually. or hell, have it switch. it's a robot.
it's not like I thought of addressing its sexual orientation any time soon, I got other topics that are more interesting to me right now and that I'd like to tackle in the story. for now I don't know if it's important. but who knows maybe one day Tomo could wear clothes.
here is an early draft of Tomo
side note: I'm giggling like a loli, in a few hours I'll be receiving my brand new Cintiq HD 13 in the mail.
>>81581146
Becky is not for sexual
>>81583763
I want to FUCK that robot, if you catch my drift
>>81585752
NO.
>>81583953
>>81584137
>>81584538
>>81584678
he's a cutie
either gender is fine for it
its a robot so it doesnt really even have one in the end
Annabeth gettin creepy.
>>81586298
Also...
>>81586320
practice drawing from life dewd, especially on hands
>>81586320
>>81586298
i challenge you to draw realism for 1 week.
bet you wont do it. prove me wrong.
>>81586298
That doesn't look any different than normal other than you doodled red ink on it.
>>81587952
Yeah, I was planing on giving annabeth some more reddish lines for his muscles, I thought it would make him look more, jungle-boy-ish.
>>81586320
Try going to pixellovely. It'll help you out alot
>>81588637
Thanks, I'll try it.
>>81587570
>>81587757
>>81588637
Dewd is borderline retarded. He's mentally incapable of getting good. Just let it go.
Filter him if you must. It's not nice bullying a halfwit.
Hey /hyw/,
I posted this is the thread before last, got some feedback, and adjusted. I'd love some more feedback, I've been told its very tapestry-esque.
http://www.napapiiricomic.com
>>81589390
and here's a sample from my soon-to-be colorist who is going to fill all those horrible white spaces.
>>81580969
You're good blood. Your monster also looks awesome.
Questions I challenge creators to answer:
>Why are you creating a comic?
>What is your end goal?
>Does your story have a message?
>Are you trying to teach or tell?
>Do you have an end in mind for your story?
>>81589390
What could really help you is black placement. Areas of solid black that help draw the eye around the page. For me, all the trees in the background of this
>>81589446
and the undefined parts of the dead bodies in the foreground and midground should be solid black. It'd help frame the shot and draw attention to the characters.
Your pages don't have any solid blacking which makes them look busy. and unfocused.
>>81589501
I'm making Ennui GO! because it's fun, I'm using it as an excuse to practice cartooning and hands, and I'm making some money off of it.
If I can, I'd like to be able to make enough off of the comic so I could pay my bills, so I wouldn't have to do as many fetish commissions.
No real message to Ennui GO! If I had to invent one it'd be to keep your humanity after you get successful.
Definitely trying to tell.
No real end in mind for Ennui GO!, but I do have definite points I'd like to get to over the next few years.
>>81589555
I've been slowly adding solid blacks its all hand drawn and scanned, and I'm afraid of using digital means to add solid blacks, in case it makes the ink blacks look off grey. Page flow is my weakest point. Have a gunslinging kobold for your critique.
>>81589817
Bring your scanned inks into photoshop. Go to image > adjustments > levels. By dragging around the little black triangle below the square graph, you can bump up the darks on the page to a point where they look jet black. You can also do this to bump up the whites on the page.
>>81589501
I create west tree because I see all of these cartoons doing stuff I hate and I thought I could do better.
My end goal is to inspire as many people as I can to draw.
And maybe get a west tree cartoon.
The message is don't think about things too hard and keep on trying and maybe even keep on making things up as you go along until you get it right.
Also, there will always be some sort of evil one way or another in the world, but if things are peaceful, just relax.
I'm mainly trying to tell, but if people learn something from it, good for them.
Yes I do, but it has changed several times.
One end had sarah become the final boss and jack had to beat her using a giant sperm spirit and then have fight sex.
But obviously that's gone now.
>>81589501
>Why are you creating a comic?
Because me and the other guy got into webcomics in the early 2000s and severely misread the way it works but it is too late and we work on plenty of other side things.
>End Goal
We'd like to be a small imprint group within the next ten years, just because that'd be a thing that feels worthy and good to have our names attached to.
>Does your story have a message?
Nothing heavy, but I do think the theme of secrets, lies, and belief are a pretty common motif throughout that the message of "suffering comes often through failures to communicate" might be seen as the message.
>Teach or Tell
Telling a story.
>End in Mind.
Yep. Got the end scenes I want each story arc to build to in mind. The current arc of the Sisters has been doing pretty good at hitting those act breaks.
>How do you prefer your comic sites?
Simple. Standard reading interface, forward and back buttons, regular-ass archive.
>What features?
As few as possible. If it doesn't work with all scripts disabled I will not read a comic. Period.
>Anyone know RSS?
I don't use it, but it is a feature on my site after popular demand.
>How did you design yours and why the way it is?
Simple, because that's what I want in the comics I read.
BOO!Do your best
>>81589501
Because out of all the things in my life that I wanna do, this fucking comic is the closest thing I'll ever be able to make because I won't have to start from scratch everytime I move out of town each 2 years like EVERYTHING in my life.
I just want something to call my own, something I can say ''I did this, it was me'', some sense of accomplishment for once.
I guess? The more stories I come up with it the less I feel like they're about anything other than what the characters are going through
mostly tell, something entertaining at the very least
Yes
>>81589501
>>Why are you creating a comic?
I make things. Such is my function; such is my fate.
>>What is your end goal?
To make something cool and become a good artist.
>>Does your story have a message?
No. I have nothng important to say.
>>Are you trying to teach or tell?
Whichever one involves drawing more boobs and explosions.
>>Do you have an end in mind for your story?
Yes.
>>81586298
>>81586320
annabeth did you finally catch some horrible disease by wrestling around in the dirt with random critters?
>>81588161
uhh well it looks like scrapes.
>>81589501
>at first, to get some drawing in regularly. later, because i can't stop
>everyone has a happy ending
>eh.. nudity is cool? young people can be adults too if they try?
>not really
>see answer for 'end goal'
>>81589501
>Why are you creating a comic?
Practice in storytelling/ comic making/ drawing in general
>What is your end goal?
To have completed something that I enjoyed making from start to finish.
>Does your story have a message?
Helping others achieve their goals can be empowering.
>Are you trying to teach or tell?
show
>Do you have an end in mind for your story?
Yup. It's a LONG way away, though.
here's the comic, by the way
http://www.smackjeeves.com/comicprofile.php?id=156436
>>81594410
>Nudity is cool
What a strange moral.
>>81589501
I love webcomics as a medium but I haven't seen any good ones lately that aren't dying or dead. I've been nursing this story idea since I was around 11 and I'm really excited to see it come to fruition.
My end goal is just to see it finished, but a small following and/or chance to publish would be amazing. I also hope I get decent with my art with all the practice, especially with atmosphere and consistency in the faces.
It has no message. I'm just trying to tell a story I'm attached to in a visually pleasing and entertaining way.
And I have an end in mind. I need to work out some of the details but they should come pretty easily as I write the rest. It's kind of "fate of humanity" deal but not quite as generalized.
>>81594937
it feels like one i shouldn't have to state, and yet i consistently see it needing to be said. this must be how theoh you knowfeel when they look atregular people
>>81594270
Huh, eh that's cool, I just want to make annabeth look less human.
>>81595189
well here's the thing, if anna is half metal demon or whatever, if anything shouldnt there be like, silver scrape lines?
>>81595221
Well, that would be hard to tell on Annabeth's already grey-ish skin, also, it's already confirmed that Annabeth has red blood.
>>81595047
Oh, I don't have anything against the moral. It's just odd in how extremely specific of a "accept things you aren't used to" message it is and, frankly, I'm interested in how you can make that the core message of your story without it being forced.
>>81595286
>accept things you aren't used to
oh hell no, shoot me if i start putting out that message
the message is 'be used to it, it's normal and practical'
and you make that the message by just having it happen sometimes and being like 'what? that happens. go read a fantasy book or watch an anime'
>Why are you creating a comic?
For practice
>What is your end goal?
I have a long comic I want to make. My goal is that comic.
>Does your story have a message?
Yes and no. It's really just a way for me to deal with the aspects of my life that I am unhappy with.
>Are you trying to teach or tell?
That is an odd way to phrase that question.
>Do you have an end in mind for your story?
It'll jump the shark. When I get bored with it, I'll reveal all the stupid aspects of it and then end it.
>>81595373
Oh, well, that's even stranger than I thought.
I hope you can make your nudity acceptance message work without coming off as a broader acceptance message.
>>81595577
what i try to do is just be confident in things that other people are nervous about, whether nervous that they're being naughty or nervous that they're getting away with something.. just negate that concept in the viewer's eye by not apologizing at all. basically peer-pressure them. that's what the opposition did in the first place to make it taboo.
>>81595956
this nigga writing the exhibitionist's manifesto
>>81596053
shit there's a reason nudists never make a fuss no matter how legitimately oppressed and mercilessly mocked and slandered and slurred we get compared to other special interest groups. nobody wants to be the big issue guy, the big in-your-face enemy forcing you to talk and act differently. at least nobody sensible.
>>81589501
>Why are you creating a comic?
I either suck at or hate everything else. I can make a shitty comic or I can sit around waiting to die.
>What is your end goal?
to make a comic and not die of boredom. Make enough money that I can continue to live.
>Does your story have a message?
I guess. More like a question that's been haunting me. I doubt I'm some incredible philosophical intellect who will have a more satisfying conclusion than "just 'cause", but maybe I can get myself and my readers some new perspective on that answer to make it easier to deal with.
>Are you trying to teach or tell?
I'm trying to ask, I think.
>Do you have an end in mind for your story?
Sort of. The final dramatic showdown is all dreamed up, but I'm not entirely sure which way it ends up going. I'm half and half considering not making an ending and just having the pages stop with the protagonist and antagonist squaring off, but I'd be annoyed if I read something like that myself.
>>81596506
Thanks, just checking.
yo dewd, today's comic. i forgot to comment on it when you posted it here, but it makes-a me laugh. it reminds me of this idea i had for a sorta fairytale parody about like, the various verminfairies blessing some baby with a lack of fear of bugs and rats and things, so he'll always be their friend.. and he grows up to be a master exterminator because of his lack of fear.
I think I should get drunk more often, it's the only thing that turns off that part of my brain that goes ''no dude, don't do it, now get sad because you didn't do it''
Uh oh.
http://vigormortis.co.uk/
>>81592750
same
why scripts disabled though?
>>81598729
lovin' this. glad to see it's going somewhere
>>81589501
>why are creating a comic
i live to make, especially stories, its why im in school
>what is your end goal
for this one project, just to be more responsible and drawing practice
>does your story have a message?
not at all
side note i mostly prefer audiences to make up their own mind
>are you trying to teach or tell?
tell i guess, but like mentioned i just wanna do a fun lil side project for kicks and practice
>do you have an end in mind for your story?
i usually do, but not for this one, just a general gist
