Remember me?
>>76327898
No.
I'm pretty sure that it's beencannedat this point
John K hate thread?
>>76328952
Remember what?
>>76327898
>WHEN I KILLED YOUR BROTHER???
>>76330100
>calling someone out for being a blatant scam artist and procrastinator is a "hate thread"
You're a lackwit.
>>76327898
>Estimated delivery: Feb 2013
>Feb
>2013
>>76330600
You don't understand! It's not John K's fault that he can't deliver a ten minute cartoon within 3 years! It's the PRODUCERS! Those goddamn suits are holding back his genius! It's not John K.'s fault, it's never John K.'s fault. Also, Billy West is probably conspiring with the producers. Fuck Billy West.
>>76330737
Those pesky Kickstarter producers
>>76330600
>>76330737
>this is what he has so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk7bn3qBgSM
>>76330828
The animation isn't even that great
>>76327898
Well, it seems that this Kickstarter project was literally the can without label.
>>76330243
I TALKED JUST
LIKE
THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS
>>76330852
His animation's been on a steady downward spiral over the last few years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fhYiA7aBMo
Basically he's an opinionated asshole who can't even do art anymore. Before, his saving grace was that he was pretty good at his job. Now he's just an old man that likes to scream and bitch.
>>76330852
It gets worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma2Syx2H4EI
>Remember me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF8gkBGrV-8
>>76328952
That was filthy
>>76327898
Casual here (i'm from /v/), can someone explain this to me so i can join the hate?
>>76331095
i'm from /v/ too though
>>76331095
Kickstarter project by the Ren & Stimpy creator that has been in production since 2012
John K was never gonna deliver regardless, but I still hate Kickstarter. Shit is so crooked.
Patreon feels borderline illegal at times too, but that trigger /co/mblr something fierce to even suggest that.
>>76331095
John K. is the guy who made Ren and Stimpy. Since then he's done absolutely nothing but bitch about how all other cartoons are absolute shit in the eyes of Our Lord and God, John K. He's notorious for missing deadlines and his kickstarter is two years overdue for a shitty little 10 minute animation that looks worse and worse with every new clip.
>>76331163
>Since then he's done absolutely nothing but bitch about how all other cartoons are absolute shit in the eyes of Our Lord and God, John K
Umm?? How is he wrong? He's absolutely right, cartoons are shit now.
>>76331187
Maybe. But out of the lot, >>76330945 has to be right at the fucking bottom.
>>76331135
The system itself can be good, the problem is people. Most people take advantage of the fact that since they now have the money, they don't need to put as much effort in, since they've already been paid.
>>76330828
>pans out and tweens the features of his face to create a change in perspective
>The face stops changing but the camera keeps moving out
come on dude
>>76330914
For a guy who talks so much about the fundamentals of animations, John Kricfalusi seriously doesn't seem to get the fundamentals of animation.
If you make every single fucking frame totally wacky and insane, the whole thing blends together into an unwatchable mess. Ren and Stimpy held on the funny faces, it didn't try and throw 12-24 funny faces at you every fucking second. A child who's just been given an animation program for the first time could figure out that mistake within half an hour.
Doesn't he do bits for adult swim commercial breaks now?
>>76327898
The fact that he ripped off so many people and got away it is fucking hilarious. He took all that money and used it to fund his back surgery. Scamming on those levels gets me hard as fuck
>>76331429
Yes, with what I'm guessing are the characters from this.
>>76331470
God knows he doesn't have very many that are even slightly usable.
>It's a "my dad was mean and controlling" episode
You know what the height of cartoon comedy is? Ugly sausage people.
Speaking of kickstarter how's The Goon movie coming along?
>>76331549
Its dead m8
So why haven't people sued john k for fraud, there already have a legitimate case
>>76331549
The kickstarter was never for the movie, it was for the full length storyreel so that they could show it to investors and hopefully get budgetting for the real movie. 400k is not even the beginnings of enough to make a 3D animated film, they need a budget of 40 million at least. Which is why they went with this strategy, which is outlined clearly on the kickstarter page.
It'll take a long time, if it ever does work.
>>76331565
who knows, people probably totally forgot about it or don't feel it's worth fighting for the 5 bucks they spent. Either way it's on them.
>>76331565
Everybody who pledged to the kickstarter in the first place fully realized that John K was a hack that couldn't make a deadline and was 80% certain to run away with their cash. It's not like this is a new or unexpected story with him. And yet they still pledged.
If you go onto the kickstarter page and check the comments, a lot of them are jumping for joy and ecstatic about getting a grab bag full of shit like pencil toppers and stickers.
>>76331187
what are you doing on /co/?
>>76331649
Oh, and of course a professional quality 30 second doodle on lined paper.
>>76331565
Kickstarter has a clause saying that the person starting the person you're funding isn't really obligated to actually do anything. The one and only exception is that they MUST supply the backer rewards if offered. That's the only reason anyone had a case against the Pictures for Sad Children guy, but even then the legal action would need to be done through a class-action case, which is a pain in the ass to set up/
I kinda wish he would've finished Weekend Pussy Hunt. That was pretty good.
>>76331391
I think John K. is more concerned with freezeframing cartoons and thinks that's how everyone watches them.
It's also worth pointing out that he always complains about static animation but Lisa only moves her pupils in that entire webm.
>>76331391
>Signing the fucking couch gag
Thanks, John K. We didn't know it was yours. We had no clue. Truly, your ego is the smallest in all of animation.
>>76331680
Oh now who WOULDN'T go crazy over such "high quality" doodles of characters that don't even belong to him
>>76331488
>Two Dogs
Bravo John
>>76331802
Are they perhapsStupid?
>>76331715
>Kickstarter has a clause saying that the person starting the person you're funding isn't really obligated to actually do anything
It says right in their terms of service
"The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If theyтАЩre unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers"
Both Kickstarter and Early access have gone through some changes. All of it benefits the consumer. Kickstarter doesn't give people Carte Blanche, but it is up to the consumer to take action.
>>76330828
This is truly awful.
>>76331887
It wasn't always that way. I guess Kickstarter changed their policy since scams were becoming more and more common.
>>76331488
He draws normal girls ok. Not really fappable, but better than his other shit.
Did he draw the characters for Go! Go! Hypergrind, or was that someone else in Spumco?
>>76331926
it wasn't so much scams as it was people being way out of their depth and for kick starter to insure people are really committed to what they're doing in addition to have safe guards in place. Or at the very least, get more experience in the field and learn about project managing rather than have some people with a set of skills and some funding.
>>76331943
I don't think he draws the girls. Instead he relegates it onto one of his... mmmnn.... his /sexy girl/ ladies....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UojpZ_Ec-q8Katie Rice has since cut off contact with John K.
>>76332116
>"I was at her fifteenth birthday"
>that hand fiddling
>The way Katie moves her head away from John if he gets close
>>76332116
OHGODFUCK I DIDNT NEED TO REMEMBER THIS
>>76332116
1 minute in, and couldn't take it any more. John being John and Katie just looking very fidgety and uncomfortable is too much to take at once.
Which is the best western animator then, /co/? If John K is shit, then who is the best now?
>>76332416
Technically? Glen Keane, he can animate anything.
All he does is boring ballet videos though.
>>76332416
Bill plympton. Does what he wants and has turned down million dollar disney deals to be able to draw what he wants.
Check out his movie idiots and angels. He'll also draw anything you want of him if you meet him at a con. Some limitations will apply of course, he ain't gonna do hardcore porn stuff. But naked people are totally fine.
>>76332116
>Katie hinting at her bad experiences when everyone was tweeting about the Skyler Page incident.
>>76330828
This irritates the fuck out of me. Where the fuck is his sense of timing?
>>76327898
I've seen this character talk about the god-channel.
>>76327898
WWHHHAAAAT!?
John K not delivering something on time?
WHAT
A
FUCKING
SURPRISE
not like he has a notorious reputation for it or something
>>76331493
John seems to have a sense of nostalgia for old-fashioned father figures.
>>76333058
Yeah but this time so little is asked from him and he had so much time and all the freedom. And still he's not even late, he's just never going to finish it at all.
>>76331163
To add on, he thinks that cartoons are shit because they're not cartoony, ala Bob Clampett Looney Tunes. Yet he someone has the gaul to call Hannah Barbara shit cartoons like Flinstones masterpieces because he grew up with them. He is the ultimate nostalgiafag.
He fails to understand that, as sad as it may sound, the animation part of an animated production is the LEAST important aspect. Writing, voice acting, design, consistency (Which I think is a skill in itself), hell even sound effects can play a more important role than how something is animated.
Just look at South Park and Aqua Teen. They don't even have fucking walk cycles and we're willing to enjoy them.
Despicable Me proved that you can not have all the bells and whistles of a Disney or Pixar CG film and you'll still make a billion bucks, because people loved the story and characters.
>>76333267
>the animation part of an animated production is the LEAST important aspect
No.
>>76333294
Prove me wrong, faggot.
>>76332116
Doesnt her webcomic Skadi allude to her relationship with John (Thork) and Kali Kazoo (Nit)? I always got the impression from rumors and jokes floating around that John takes in young, nubile girls for "apprenticeship".
>>76333328
Something can be good with shit animation, but something can be good with shit voice acting, shit design, shit consistency, shit sound effects, and hell even shit writing. So to say it's less important than any of those isn't justified.
>>76333328
Without good animation, the project won't look nearly as good as it could've been.
>>76333372
IS this supposed to be good animation? Because those cartridges weirdly colliding with the floor and melting into it look like shit.
>>76333416
That was from a TV show, so costs still had to be put into place.
I'd be cheating if I only used OVAs.
>>76333267
>the animation part of an animated production is the LEAST important aspect
/a/ pls leave
>>76327898
You know, I really think John K is best when he has restrictions on himself or his work. I think because he has no restrictions, or even people to press his buttons now, he's gotten lazier and degraded.
>>76333461
>I'd be cheating if I only used OVAs.
It's not when you're trying to prove a point about good animation.
>>76330828
This is fucking awful.
>>76332116
I'm not even halfway through this and I feel like I need to take a shower. This is really fucking uncomfortable.
>>76333491
But that is good animation, you fuckwit.
>>76333483
It's not just john K, it's normal human psychology.
If I asked you to write a short story about anything you wanted by next week. You probably wouldn't really have anything coherent or interesting.
But if I told you to write a story about Sci-fi Cowboy trio set in the Old west. You'd have characters, names, different ideas for designs, an outline of a story, etc.
It's mostly about focus and having a direction.
Given the freedom to do anything, Most people will do nothing.
>>76333372
>cars whirring around like there's no such thing as momentum or friction
>bullets flying like they're going ultra-slow
>good animation
narutofags pls
>>76333461
Is that Lenna from FFV?
>>76333359
Those aren't examples that prove me wrong, though.
>South Park
>Aqua Teen
>Rick & Morty
>Archer
>Dan Vs.
>Bojack Horseman
>Space Ghost: Coast to Coast
>Powerpuff Girls
All shows whose actual animation is either low to non-existent. But because at least two of the following are super strong:
>Writing
>Art Design/Direction
>Voice Work
People are willing to set aside their standards and watch them.
The Simpsons didn't start getting bad because the animation got stiffer, it got bad because the writing did. Since the voice work was the same, the poor art direction just made it drag it down further into people going "Cancel this shit". But if Simpsons was still funny 20+ years later, people would not mind the stiff animation as much as they do now. They only use those in arguments for why Simpsons is shit now as a cherry on the "WRITING SUCKS" sundae.
Korra has pretty damn good animation for a Western show and /co/ consistently hates on it. Tales of the EarthSea is fucking fantastic Ghibli animation but lacks the solid writing of any of Miyazaki films so it's a fucking bore.
>>76333372
There are some projects who dedicate themselves where the visual part is the more engaging part of the show. It mostly depends on the project and good animation is more suited to action, but for comedy, not so much. John K argues cartoons are shit because they aren't cartoony not understanding that things can be funny without having a funny face on it.
>>76330945
>use the belt
>get back from taking a crap X should be finished
that hit home.
>>76333578
Sinep
>>76333372
>the project won't look nearly as good as it could've been.
But that doesn't mean it won't be good.
You could have the most amazingly animated thing ever and it could be shit because the story sucks on a fundamental level. Mr didney knew this, even they they always pushed for excellence in animation a good story always came first.
"Least important" is putting it strongly but masturbating to mechanical animation and fight choreography alone doesn't make good films.
I can't remember the name of the girl from Mezzo Forte, I fapped when I was led to believe she was getting raped because it was hot. But how can it be a successful story when they want you to masturbate to the plight of the protagonist? Umetsu is a great animator but not a great storyteller.
>>76333525
Why are they driving through a circular street? The scenery keeps repeating over and over.
Look at the cartridges and tell me that's good.
>>76330914
Its not a decline. His true style has emerged. After the shit he pulled during Ripping Friends everybody bailed, leaving him on his own. They were why his old stuff was so much better. They were why his older flash like Weekend Pussy hunt is far better animated than this crap.
>>76333582
What the fuck even is Cans Without Labels? Is it supposed to be funny? From what I gather from the clips it's 10 minutes of an old man abusing children.
It obviously comes from John's experiences but it's not a funny spin on them it's just weirdly macabre.
>>76330828
>>76330945
This wouldn't have been so bad if it hadn't taken so long to come out.
>>76333372
And as any OVA dubbed before the year 2000 will show, no amount of good animation will save unlistenable voice acting
>>76333689
But, don't you see? The comedy comes from the random clusterfuck of expressions and convulsions of the characters! Actual writers are for CORPORATE TOOLS. Or so it goes in JohnK Land.
>>76333578
Rick & Morty has God-tier animation though, just because the art style is crude doesn't mean the animation isn't top notch.
>>76331391
I can't get over how awful this is. It's so... over-animated.
>>76333932
No it doesn't
didn't he end up spending it on some back surgery?
also he's at least been working with adult swim shorts so maybe we'll see it eventually there...
>>76333932
The most impressive animated bits in the whole show are things that are not-character related. Explosions, the water and earthquake animation when the Giant Head was approaching Earth, etc.
The actual characters themselves are typical puppeted, rather lifeless looking animation. There's no stretch and squash, everything is perfectly on-model (Because they re-use a model), no sense of exaggeration. It moves from Point A to Point B to tell you that, "Morty is running", but there's nothing God-tier about it. Wander Over Yonder is made with the same program and methods but is much bouncier than R&M. Unless you can provide me a clip that shows the characters in some God-Tier-looking scene and not just a really nice looking explosion.
>>76333689
It's not even weirdly macabre; it's nothing.
>>76330474
>overblown personal opinions are fact.
>>76331488
>90s rave character
>>76332116
Has John K ever had sexual harassment allegations thrown at him?
>>76334227
Well it's not overblown. John K is known for not finishing his cartoons on time, whether it be due to perfectionism in the Ren and Stimpy days or laziness in the Adult Swim bumpers and this piece of crap >>76330828
It's kind of hypocritical honestly compared to how much he talks about proper drawing and design on his blog.
>>76331488
MY god these are all terrible.
>>76334196
>The most impressive animated bits in the whole show are things that are not-character related. Explosions, the water and earthquake animation when the Giant Head was approaching Earth, etc.
>The actual characters themselves are typical puppeted, rather lifeless looking animation
You are wrong.
>>76330828
And this is why I went back to preferring Disneys design philosophies.
>>76334570
You are a faggot.
This probably took a day, and made Y100000000 https://youtu.be/vSl45sklBVY
>>76327898
George Liquor, isn't John K. the only person who wants this for whatever reason?
>>76332928
>John K
>sense of timing
It's like you didn't even watch Ren and Stimpy
>>76334646
John K has a very serious daddy complex of some kind or another. He doesn't seem to realize that nobody else cares about his alternating adoration/demonization of his shitty redneck dad.
>>76330828
It's like he's over-animating to a ridiculous degree to prove a point now.
And please tell me he's not going to use that completely unnecessary and jarring CGI in the final version.
Japanese animators > Western animators
>>76334925
Everyone knows that.
>>76335012
Then what's up with /co/'s boner for Western animators? There's very few that actually have any merit compared to the Japanese.
>>76335030
Very few Japanese animators have any merit either. Most people compare singular Western animators to Japanese animation studios and believe that a single animator from that studio is responsible for all the output.
>>76335030
>There's very few that actually have any merit compared to the Japanese.
The japanese have no merit. They just pump out animation like it was made in a factory.
Reality is both west and east have good things and bad things about them. Neither is empirically better or worse than the other. Though plenty of knuckle draggers will argue one way or the other.
>>76334925
Fuck off Famicom.
>>76335030
>Then what's up with /co/'s boner for Western animators?
>What with the western animation board's boner for western animators?
hmmmmm
>>76330828
>>76327898
The thing that hurts me the most is that is actually a pretty funny anecdote to hear. But at this point that horse is beaten to death and beyond saving.
>>76334845
redneck dads are the only dads worth having as characters and otherwise the most relatable ones
better than the alternatives of fat deadbeat dad, or boring dad
>>76335127
>very few have any merit
There's like thousands that can draw better scenes than your average Western artist could.
>>76327898
Yes, super relieved I didn't donate
Word's going around that only a few more scenes of this need to be finished. John.K is already working on a new couch gag for Simpsons Treehouse of Horror so there's that too.
>>76333461
Isn't this from a thing where there's a porno cut of it made by the animators?
>>76334925
>Japanese animators
They're called "slave labour", anon.
>>76335342
yes
>>76335132
>Reality is both west and east
East, West, all in-betweens done in Korea.
>>76335386
But that sword was folded 10,000 times with pure japanese steel!
>>76335458
>japanese steel
>pure
>>76335030
Because we're on a board for western animation. What business would we have discussing Japanese animators and their work? Are you retarded?
>>76335690
But western animation is shit.
>>76333344
Isn't she working on another comic now? The Camp one? I'd love to see that done as a few shorts or something. Skadi was pleasant to the eye if a bit over exaggerated. The camp one feels like she's perfecting her own style away from John K.
>>76335690
>>76335711
why are you unable to agree that 95% of western AND japanese animation is absolute quick-buck garbage
and that most of it is done overseas anyways by sweatshop animators
>>76335756
because that would have him admit he was wrong and his ego can not stand that.
![8b7399ecf28a6aac8bccdbe31422a0e5[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BKWROm2.jpg "8b7399ecf28a6aac8bccdbe31422a0e5[1].jpg")
>>76335711
And japanese animation isn't?
>>76333614
>Circular street
Have you never been on bridged highway in a big city? They're a lot like that.
>>76334626
so genericism then
>>76334183
Has he? I've only seen the bumps that finally showed and I assume those were years and years in the works. There was a version of one leaked or released years ago and the final product aired like a year ago. That short was seconds long. If John is really doing shorts for AS, its going to be years before they air. The Yogi/Ranger Smith stuff was very late but worth. The Jetsons ones were late and he had nothing to do with them aside having his name on them, he even hates them. Adult Party eps were finished a year late, late enough that Spike's animation block had been long dead.
>>76335030
Whats up with weebs who come here complaining about western animation?
Wakfu and toonami should just be put on /a/.
>>76335711
>Japanese Animation
>no blinking, no movement, characters speaking is just a picture with a moving head
>animation
>>76336687
>western animation
>all rip off and shit designs from a shitty show that became popular in 2010
>little to no shading
>animation
>>76335934
But look at that animation! See how you can tell that there is so much going on!
Just look at those intense facial expressions.
You can really tell what the characters are supposed to be feeling.
>>76330828
My must this guy insert his daddy issues into everything he creates?
John K is the M. Night Shyamalan of animation.
>>76335307
What about Clay Puppington dads?they're the most relatable to me
>>76336732
>Talks about designs
>Talks about shading
Do you even know what the fuck animation is? Considering you're a weeaboo faggot, probably not since you get maybe one good looking scene every 30 episodes of your shitty adapted-from-a-shitty-manga show.
>>76337130
Anime has more shading than you average shitty tumblrina show.
Fuck off.
>>76335558
Japanese animators are great at getting expressive scenes out of a limited budget, they handle shooting on 2s and 3s a lot better than many Westerners.
>>76335342
Yes, the animation company at the time exclusively made hentai. So the x-rated scenes had to be in there.
Do the /a/ fanboys in here know that anime gets extremely low profits, even in their own country? It's pretty damn rare for an anime to actually be super successful, and when it is, they milk the shit out of it. Fullmetal Alchemist, Naruto, Dragonball. There's a reason why Toonami's blocktime keeps getting cut more and more.
>>76337154
>Shading
>Animation
>Shading
>Animation
>Shading
>Animation
>Tumblr
Drown yourself.
>>76335342
apparently that was the only way the director could get funding
>>76337161
why doesn't the west take any influence from the japanese though
>>76327898
>this scene would have costed millions if it were animated by the west.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ux1eQqG-Eg
>>76337281
We do, we just do it in the worst way possible.
Also see:
>Original Teen Titans
>Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi
>Bee & Puppycat
Is the original Ben 10 anime influenced, or is it following more Bruce Timm art?
>>76337286
That's what happens when Koreans will accept peanuts for their work.
If it weren't illegal, studios could offer peanuts for work as well but they won't get anyone of talent who will take the job. They'd rather ditch that profession than get paid shit for it.
>>76337303
Didn't that take like 7+ years to get made? Also the story is extremely boring. Visuals are the only thing it has going for it, if they weren't great, nobody would even glance at it.
>>76337303
Western animation can look this good if they're willing to go bankrupt in the process, just look at thief and the cobbler
>>76337459
As proven by Don Bluth Studios.
>>76337336
I really hated that about the 2000s when the anime boom hit, no one really understood what makes anime, anime. And those that did had a dated understanding from when they watched old 80s/90s shows.
Then you had shit like this at your library.
>good animation takes a long time to make
>and is absurdly, cripplingly expensive
is it any wonder most stuff is just trash
>>76335558
Young Adult Morty is such a pain in the ass.
>>76337742
if only we could make shows with the intention of them being 30 minute toy commercials like we used to.
>>76337303
Japanese animators have gotten really good at making the most out of the fewest frames. The special effects, the quality of each drawing makes this look real fuckin good but if you look at the movement it's still choppy compared to disney, don bluth, richard williams... etc.
>>76338011
The interesting thing is that if you freeze-frame it, the digital effects are running at twice the framerate as the 2D animation.
>>76337456
>Also the story is extremely boring.
Story? What story?
It's literally
>I was in a qualifying race
>Then I was in the big race
>Then I won the big race and fucked the blonde girl
>>76331391
>>76334121
I have no personal opinion on John K. really but I think the gag's pretty funny. I'd rather watch twenty minutes of that than whatever followed it.
>>76338144
Exactly. They try to trick you into thinking there is more to it by cutting to a Hospital and some federation building, but only because doing 90 straight minutes of pure racing would have literally killed their artists.
It's rare for an anime with spectacular visuals to have a story that can compete with it. Usually one has to suffer because they often don't have the budget to actually make revisions. They have to do first draft and done, and its usually written by people who are more illustrators than actual storytellers.
>>76334807
I did? When I was really fucking young. I barely remember it.
>>76335719
Yeah, it's like a collaboration with the PA guys or something. Camp Wedonwanchya or whatever
>>76338738
Collab? Looks like it's just her doing it. Good luck to her either way.
>>76334807
Isn't it more the same old stale-bread case of John probably having to work his ass off at first and with a team to keep him in check to produce results? And he had genuine talent, but then he got control with success, and used it to molest women and get lazy, and then lost all control and got shuffled aside when he showed he couldn't handle his shit?
Sort of sad. He could have been on of the greats, but blew his load on being a creep, having daddy issues, and acting like he had a goddamn leg to stand on while the rest of the animation world left him behind for being too slow to keep up.
>>76338843
Yeah, no kidding. I remember Ren and Stimpy being pretty great with the comedic timing. Now his work is like a fucking parody of itself. I think he's got a bad case of George Lucas Syndrome
>>76339119
I love at least that everyone John has burned, insulted, or perved on seems to generally preserve his art style, improve it, and then just walk off to success while he fights with making a 10 minute short.
>>76336243
John pls
>>76330828
Nice, the animation is all customized frame by frame, instead of only customized key pose to key pose. Already better than most if not all cartoon animation out there today.
Lol no one hates John K more than Kyle Carozza, who never worked for John. Shits on him constantly and then has the audacity to use his art style. And then he bitches and complains when people say he used the same art style. Thankfully his webshow is in the shitter
>>76330828
>mfw animation has gotten so shitty that people think this short is "over-animated"
God damn.
>>76341072
John K we told you to get out already
>>76340797
Yeah well, I don't know who started it, but John's publicly tore apart Kyle's work on his blog.
>>76331187
He even bitches about the good ones, and not just modern ones.
He'll go on and on about how Scooby Doo is everything wrong with animation history, and then turn around and praise something like Uncle Grandpa and claim how Gumball is just an extension of the cancer that is Ducktales.
>>76330474
hate thread is a hate thread, whether it's warranted or not.
>>76335030
Most French animation I've seen is miles ahead of the flappy mouth shit from Japan.
>>76333932
No it does not, it's animation makes Mir's Episodes of Korra look good.
>>76334925
The 1940s will like to have a word with you.
But now of days out side of a few people like Eric Goldberg it's true.
>>76335030
Bob Mckimson says hi.
>>76335127
Toshihiko Masuda will like to have a word with you.
>>76335362
2600 yen a hour is not slave labour.
>>76335934
Thats Filipino animation.
>>76337017
No.
>>76337217
Blue Jacket Lupin will like to have a word with you.
>>76337415
Most Korean studios get payed 12,000 won a hour, not peanuts by any means.
>>76338011
Watch this, it was made in Japan and it is not choppy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR4bKHlhmjk
>>76345747
The French are pretty fucking god tier. I really wish more were into the animation department there.
>>76346030
Aw gee whiz guys, this anon posted at least one example to all of our arguments, I guess we've all been proven wrong, well boy howdy!
>>76346139
Thank you.
>>76331187
Yea, that's why nobodies watching them. Fuck you. You're the one that's shit.
>>76346530
No, fuck you.
Theres also this to remember.
>>76346801
Picture from archive.moe
>>76332116
jesus christ. he seemed so normal in that howard stern interview. what happened?
>>76346801
What if someone decided to bring in the good animation artists from America, France, and Japan to congregate and create something
Would it go well?
>>76335386
Sorry to be that guy but sauce?
>>76347155
sounds expensive as shit and probably not
>>76347155
Maybe, Nemo got US and Japanese staff working on that movie but in the end the final film is 98% Japanese and was a mess in the end.
On the other hand Tiny Toons did the same thing as Nemo's end result and that was a masterpiece.
Something like Ulysses 31 & Sherlock Hound were only funded by the likes of France & Italy (Dic did have more to do with Ulysses 31 then RAI did with Sherlock Hound) when Blue Jacket Lupin III was only broadcasted early in Italy as they had nothing to do with it's production (Blue Jacket was funded by 5 years of outsourcing fees as Japanese sponsors refused to give TMS any money for any Lupin III projects except if it was a kid friendly special).
There is also this from archive.moe to look up.
>>76347372
Blood: The Last Vampire.
>>76347674
That webm is from Akira however.
>>76347674
thanks! this would've bothered me all night
>>76347717
The site where I usually get the webms from are down.
>>76347626
Interesting. It still would be nice if we could do more foreign animation collaborations.
John K has daddy issues and it really shows in his work.
>>76327898
Cans Without Labels is the best movie I've ever seen. Ever. Cans Without Labels is the most ingenious cartoon of this century, of any century! John K has created the perfect film: flawless in every way. He has sculpted a masterpiece, flawless and perfect. In fact, you can call it a masterpiece of flawlessness.
Cans Without Labels is the greatest thing to happen to animation since the invention of paper, and the most important thing to happen to mankind since the invention of fire. A one-of-a-kind experience, NOTHING on earth compares to this heartwarming, majestic, epic and beautiful work of art. If the greats from the Renaissance were alive today, they would KILL THEMSELVES for being so SHITTY compared to John K!
John K's poetic storytelling about an old man abusing two kids should be compared to the greatest works of animation. In fact, if I could, I would take a SHIT on every cartoon ever produced, because Cans Without Labels is the best FUCKING THING EVER!
>>76347799
he also has lady issues
he "dated" his stalker and apparently he's very controlling/manipulative
not sure about that considering she's the crazy type
>>76331565
He's a special person anon, you can't just sue the mentally retarded without looking like a total faggot penny pincher.
>>76347778
I see then.
Blue Jacket's funding really started 6 years ago but outsourcing fees did not start to be a thing until 2010.
>It still would be nice if we could do more foreign animation collaborations.
Until then study the list.
>>76333932
stop mistaking the content for the delivery
>>76333932
quite possibly the most backward-ass thing i've heard on /co/ ever
>>76330852
are you fucking surprised?
>>76331488
Roxy's pretty kwai
wasn't she a mascot for some old navy commercial actually? in like 2000?
>>76339119
Please quote John K ever saying that's he's a be all end all of animation.
>>76333416
It's not melting into the floor, it's being hidden by the darkness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6La_U4g1Src
There was a point in my life when I genuinely believed he'd finish this. I really wish he did, this eight or so minute cartoon would have been 1000 times more entertaining that the shit he's done for adult swim and Tenacious D in the ten years since.
>>76335558
>>76332116
oh my god. i am so uncomfortable
https://data.archive.moe/board/m/image/1433/41/1433410246702.webm
God, Cobra looks good for the tiny budget it had.
>>76349194
>>76349264
>>76349194
I think they just worked for nothing.
Since when did the Earthworm Jim show have good animation?
Just saw George Liquor and those kids on Adult Swim.
>>76349295
>>76349194
>>76349264
>>76349295
COBURA~ leavin' me blue
COBURA~ missing you true
>>76349548
>Posting webms
>On /co/.
I tried. Didn't recognise the filetype.
Also, this scene. This fucking scene. This is what I loved so much about the series. It's a TV anime on TV budget from the early 80s and yet they'll give you something like THIS out of the blue.
>>76349615
Use CloudConvert and set the file type to VP8, and make sure it's under 3 MB.
>>76349662
Gotcha. I go on /co/ tons, just don't really post webms or see them much. Thanks for the heads up.
>>76349539
COBURA~ only memories after you~!
I love people here cherry-picking good looking anime scenes as if sakuga isn't a technique that exists. Also comparing movie animation to tv animation lol.
>>76327898
I thought I recognized that fucker! I gave him like 30 bucks back in 2012 to make a cartoon and he never did it!
Guys, what if John K animated a Bobobo short?
>>76349761
I'm fairly certain the Space Adventure Cobra clips are from the TV series. I would recommend you check it out but I don't think it appeals to dumb faggots.
>>76349615
>>76349496
>>76349295
>>76349264
These ones are definitely from the TV series.
>>76349892
I'd recommend Cobra to pretty much anyone. Even if you rabidly hate all anime, just give it a shot.
>>76349892
And I'm fairly certain you're not the only faggot posting webms, so stop acting like the world revolves around you and that my comment is directed personally to you.
This one is though. Picking one series that is well animated doesn't mean anime as a whole is. It just means that particular series is.
It'd be like me using Superjail as proof for why Western shows look good because "look how fluid this one particular show is!".
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>>76350172
No one said anime as a whole was, but there's a huge shit ton more anime to pick from covering literally everything that's as high quality as the very short golden age of Western animation that only lasted for a few decades in the first half of last century which goes contrary to what people who state things like 'The Japanese have no merit'.
Sure, there's also a ton of shit, but compare the output to what Hanna Barbera was pushing out. You have to go to Chargeman Ken levels of bad to match that.
>>76349194
>>76349264
>>76349295
my nigga. Space Cobra is the shit
>>76349914
yeah, the movie was pretty bad, from what I remember.
>>76349194
>>76349264
>>76349295
Cobra is great.
>>76346030
Famicom get the fuck out
it's the same shit from you every single time
Remember when anyone who mattered thought John K was influential?
Yeah, me neither.
>>76350971
That's because you were likely born in 2000
What the fuck? This guy.... Holy shit. Someone needs to tell this guy that it isn't the 70s anymore. Ren and Stimpy had more effort than all of this. Over 100 grand for just a few minutes of animation that looks like this? I feel sorry for all of his backers.
>>76349194
Do you have a source that Cobra had a tiny budget? Last I checked Cobra's budget was lager then what most anime had at the time.
>>76349539
COBURA~ is in You Tube.
>>76349438
When Rough Draft took over.
Akom's efforts are still better then Mir's.
>>76349328
TMS was a studio known for being expensive, it's why Warners & Disney used cheaper studios like Akom, Dong Yang & Wang.
They got payed alot of money.
>>76350971
John K is not Bryke.
John K is the only man who can catch up the the Japanese and was neck and neck with them at one point.
I donated $75. I'm not too upset because I got my shit.
Thing is, cartoons are John K's life and he has wanted to make this particular one for years. There's no chance of him NOT finishing it, unless he dies. I knew he was going to take fucking forever from the start. He draws slow as hell and constantly redoes things.
>>76348443
Yeah her and the heartaches were used in commercials
>>76341072
If the exaggerations over-represent the amount of movement necessary for an action like slightly turning the head, it's over-animated
>>76349472
Woah, really?
Is it.... habbenin?
>>76333344
Do you know which comics in particular? I used to follow this whole group online but never paid attention to Skadi.
>>76340797
>implying that you need to have worked directly under John to hate him
kek
>>76338192
I'd MUCH rather watch a full episode directed by Sylvan Chomet, the vastly superior animator.
In fact, letting the guest couch gag directors do full episodes is the only way I'd ever get back into the Simpsons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1asueMme_k
>>76331680
I always work on lined paper / something similar.
It removes pressure.
Bunch of anime faggots strutting around, critiquing John K.
No, I'm not John K.
Promise.
>>76357261
Toshihiko Masuda puts both of them to shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQrKZcYtqg
He is the one who needs to do a Simpsons episode, not those 2 other guys.
>>76358049
Shit taste confirmed.
