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He's smiling?
People liked the season finale?
>First half of the two parter has literally nothing happen, filling the void of time with a 5 minute scene of using force life on giant rock doors
>The inquisitors are literally treated as a joke at this point with their comical helicopter blades.
>More clone wars references, must shoe horn in MORE CLONE WARS REFERENCES
>Any chance at Maul fighting Vader ruined
>Ezra going dark side with practically no build up making him just seem whiney towards a man who has done him no wrong
>Ruined the Vader vs Ahsoka by having the choreography on Vader be complete shit to where it looks like he's tripping and waggling around his saber with no aim
>BUT WAIT! We can't kill Ahsoka! That would be too much! But we can't say she's alive either or it'll seem like we chickened out. Lets do the most annoying thing ever and leave it ambiguous!
>Nothing of consequence happened outside of practically nameless bad guys dying (Kanan is going to get his vision fixed or learn to see through the force to the point where it won't matter)
this fucking episode
>>81321645
YOU'RE NOT PROTECTING IT!
>>81321645
I.. think?
Thoughts hopes and impression?
I don't know if its just the way Rebels lighting is rendered but Mauls facepaint actually looked intimidating for once
>>81321645
He might be gassy.
>>81321679
What are the chances she'll have a love interest in it?
Reminder that Maul is a master of failure
>>81320658
Was there something other than that IGN interview with Dave? All he say is "not necessarily" which is weak as hell even before you consider it's Filoni saying it.
I mean he actually says, "I’ve been wrong in the past, but I think that she has served the part of the story that she needed to for our characters here."
Oh so she's served her part and therefore won't show up, but wait he said he's been wrong in the past so maybe there's more for her to do? Well shit, son.
That entire article reads like him cockteasing the fandom on every page. The most I'd agree with from the article is that Rebels isn't about her, so she can only play parts and shouldn't remain on center stage. So if she returns expect her to do so late in the game, similar to season 1.
Actually if Filoni wants to be entirely dickish about it, I'd love it if Fulcrum returns, complete with voice modulator, only nobody knows who it is beyond someone offering occasional missions and intel. Then he NEVER REVEALS WHO IT IS. Just leaves people wandering if she's back or not.
>>81321718
She loved Anakin.
Think about it. Why else did she go after a brown haired wannabe bad boy with an abrasive personality?
>>81321679
I'm wary.
As someone who likes Ahsoka but also likes the rest of Star Wars, it's becoming unnerving to me why they won't just kill her off. She obviously isn't in the OT. They're using weasel words to get around her violating Yoda's words to Luke in ROTJ. How long is she going to be around now? Is she going to last until the sequel trilogy? Will we see her in Episode VIII or IX?
Maybe I'm paranoid, but Ahsoka's persistence is on the verge of confirming all my worst fears about Disney owning Star Wars. She's a popular, fan favorite character from The Clone Wars, so they're willing to muck about with the storytelling to keep her around. They care more about people buying Ahsoka merch than they care about maintaining a certain integrity in their handling of the stories of Star Wars. I don't like it.
So we already knew there was gonna be a bit of a timeskip and updated character models, but now that the finale is over, what does everyone think the changes are gonna be like
Sabine I figure will just get a new paintjob/hair dye, maybe a bit of tinkering with her armor (that jetpack she wished for?)
Hera hopefully will get some improvements to her jump suit.
Zeb I figure won't change too much.
Ezra will probably look a couple years older, obviously, but clothes will probably just be utilitarian stuff.
Kanan? No clue, will he continue to wear a bandana over his eyes? Will he have blind/white/empty eyes (despite the apparent damaged model he sported in a few blink-and-you'll-miss-it shots), or what?
Chopper... will remain Chopper.
>>81321718
50-50. In that story reel there was a cute guy staring at her messing with the shitty bike.
>>81321661
>comical helicopter blades
That was embarrassing to watch.
>>81321645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC7uIPBXcf4
>>81321818
Kanan will have an updated eye protector thing, maybe even a mask. And I can see him messing with his hair.
>>81321718
What are chances that she'll no longer be a virgin?
I was surprised Lost Stars had a sex scene and everything.
>>81321818
I'm hoping for a tighter jump suit for Hera.
>>81321811
Yeah, I feel kind of similarly. Though I was never much of a fan of hers to begin with.
What did Anakin and Ahsoka say to each other during their pyramid cage-match? (cont since we had some good ones last time)
>>81321867
How did Maul even blind him?
>>81321867
>maybe even a mask
That'd be neat.
>>81321907
Lightsaber across the eyes
>>81321907
Sliced his blade across Kanan's eyes.
>>81321661
Wait were the helicopter lightsabers not seen before this episode? I've never watched the show before this episode and only tuned in for Maul/Vader. It was shameful as fuck but I assumed it was normal for this show.
>>81321907
He raked a lightsabers across his eyes. They're dead, man.
>>81321818
Kanan is going to utilize that Jedi Mask he found. He will probably look like a mix of Rahm Kota and Kyle Katarn.
Ezra's clothing is definitely going to be a darker shade. And a pretty cool new lightsaber to boot.
Sabine will probably get more Mandalorian armor and paintjob.
>>81321645
Of course he is
>>81321907
>>81321902
>You realize you have literally no reason to be evil anymore, right?
>Yeah, but unfortunately the sequel for this is already out and I'm still evil in it
>>81321692
Can you get gassy with robot ass?
>>81321951
No. It was new.
The only reasons people aren't bitching about it more are that a) they all died, one specifically because of the helisaber malfunctioning and b) the rest of the episode was pretty compelling.
>>81321818
>Chopper... will remain Chopper
Chopper will get his new leg
>>81321934
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>>81321987
Ok the red flash didn't click with me
>>81321992
TIMELINE SPLIT WHEN
>>81321951
Spinning yes but not able to lift with them. An anon last thread or so suggested it's a new upgrade since the Inquisitors told Vader that the Jedi were growing in their power and Sheev is more likely to give them new techno toys than actual Dark Side powers. Hilariously the upgrade is more useful for them to get the fuck away from people than for attack, but then the Inquisitors are the hunting dogs of the Empire. They sniff out the Force Sensitive, run them to ground, and if they prove too much they call in Big Daddy Vader to deal with it.
When are they finally going to kill Maul off?
>>81321995
Anon, you can't get anything BUT gassy, and unfortunately it has to eventually go back up. So basically he has farty burps.
And now you know.
>>81321818
>Ezra will probably look a couple years older, obviously
I doubt it'll be a couple of years. They have five years until ANH. This 'timeskip' will probably be only a few months.
But as for Ezra and Kanan's appearances, I hope they'll look more Jedi. Not completely, mind you. But take on things that lean towards it. Like perhaps Ezra getting a fucking haircut and wearing a Padawan braid.
>>81321992
he doesn't believe he is evil.
he is only one working for legitimate government versus terrorists.
kanan ezra and freinds are no better then ISIS
>>81322060
>IIDF detected
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>>81321907
>>81322016
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>>81321976
I doubt it'd be a mask, that'd cover up his expressions too much.
>>81322054
Yeah but a year plus has passed in both seasons already, and does Ezra's current model look 16-17 to you?
>>81322054
>Padawan braid
This will never come back.
>>81321645
The purest smile you'll ever see in the galaxy
>>81321661
>Ahsoka
>EVER dying
Fuck, mang. Is anyone stupid enough to believe that anything bad will ever happen to her? She has higher chances of turning Vader to the light and having a whole new canon erected for her than dying.
>>81322086
I mean a mask during battle. He'd probably take it off for more personal scenes.
>>81322086
>I doubt it'd be a mask, that'd cover up his expressions too much.
All the more better to save animators time and money.
When will their budget increase?
>>81321586
Why couldn't the rest of the season be as strong as the finale or nearly as strong, or at least lead up to it more?
The previous episode was literally about GIANT FUCKING SPIDERS.
>>81322086
>Yeah but a year plus has passed in both seasons already
No it hasn't. It's barely even been a year. Ezra's still 15. The show's time is not parallel with how the seasons air. Otherwise TCW would've lasted seven years.
>>81322095
Thank god. I always hated those braids.
>>81322086
Is Kanan being blinded going to be our in to seeing the Miraluka introduced to the new canon?
It would be the perfect opportunity. Maybe someone, Hera or Sabine or someone, has heard of a mysterious species that 'sees' with the Force, and they head out in search of them hoping to help Kanan.
>>81321811
Just wait until they edit her as one of the wing leaders in ANH and RoTJ.
>>81321679
It's weird, but I hope that the book doesn't have "too much" content. Obviously I want something that does a good job explaining Ahsoka's actions and development between TCW and Rebels, but I feel that there's a good deal of story there and am afraid that if too much is covered that the potential for organically expanding on her character, and therefore the odds of more future Ahsoka-related content, will be diminished.
>>81322161
Except 'seeing' with the force is something they teach even younglings. Miraluka ain't never gonna happen.
>they'll never go full bad end
>Ezra will never seek Maul out and submit to him
>there will never be episodes of them going out and fucking up empire stuff
>they'll never accidentally meet the crew and they see how cruel Ezra has become
>Sabine won't get wet in her undies watching Ezra be a badass wannabe sith
>the series won't end with Vader hunting down and killing Maul and Ezra
Why can we never have morally ambiguous protagonists?
>>81322161
>Maybe someone, Hera or Sabine or someone, has heard of a mysterious species that 'sees' with the Force, and they head out in search of them hoping to help Kanan.
Kanan already punked Maul while blind, I don't think he needs that much practice to get the hang of seeing with the Force.
Scanner person here! Sorry I'm so late in posting these. Here is Star Wars: The Force Awakens Visual Dictionary. Some of the pages were improved since I was posting them, so these are the best and final ones. The MQ are exactly the same images just different file formats. The high quality one is very high quality and sort of for archival purposes in case someone wants to make a change to the files.
Star Wars The Force Awakens - The Visual Dictionary (MQ).pdf
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Star Wars The Force Awakens - The Visual Dictionary (MQ).cbz
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Star Wars The Force Awakens - The Visual Dictionary (HQ).cbz
http://www62.zippyshare.com/v/UT4yk5UF/file.html
>>81322187
>tfw you actual thought they were going to save her
>Maul alive
He got cut in half and tossed down some shithole. What and how the actual fuck?
I'm kinda glad I never saw a single one of the cartoon spin off shit..I'm just glad all that stuff is noncanon to the films cuz goddamn.
>>81322240
Thanks, friend. I was waiting for these.
>>81322227
Is there anything sadder than maul? He's like fucking king of the jobbers at this point. Surprised that Ezra didn't just beat his ass unassisted.
>>81322246
>>81322246
Cool story bro
>>81322205
>another fun, cool idea from the EU gets tossed in the trash
But look on the bright side, we have helicopter sabers!
>>81322246
enjoy your bland unexpanded universe
>>81322246
>noncanon to the films
Have I got news for you my friend!
>>81321811
>They care more about people buying Ahsoka merch than they care about maintaining a certain integrity in their handling of the stories of Star Wars. I don't like it.
I figured this would be a problem from the get go. Disney doesn't really give a fuck about SW. They're kinda treating it like Marvel, and I have not liked it one bit.
>>81322246
>I'm just glad all that stuff is noncanon to the films
>He doesn't know
>>81322246
Nice b8
>>81322274
hahahaha LOOK on the bright side hahahaaa look... jaahaajaswwjaio0ais02i9jkusahjkabshdbasbdukwgdba aaaaaa
>>81322299
it was too easy honestly
I hope s3 gives us Vader vs Maul, no actual death could be as satisfactory for Maul than that, and I doubt they'll leave him alive and in limbo
>>81322274
>why won't they use this species from my favorite video game that they have no reason to use? fuck disney!
>>81322287
I doubt they're going to bring anything from the cartoons into the films
>>81322299
Pretending to be retarded is not bait. Just being genuinely retarded.
>>81322205
I don't see why not. There are other Force Sensitive cultures. The Dagoyan Masters, the Night Sisters (if they even still exist). We've even seen species or at least beings who have adapted to the Force in strange ways. That frog faerie Threepio and Artoo met, for one, and the fish monster that gave the Night Sisters their Waters of Life.
A culture derived from humanity stuck in a world where, for whatever reason, they were rendered blind and have learned to see with the Force isn't entirely far fetched. In fact I can imagine an episode where Kanan has to hunt down these people having heard of them from old Legends (har har) to help him deal with his own blindness.
>>81322329
>implying Maul isn't alive by the TFA era
Maul will cheat death until everything in the galaxy just dies out except for him
>Maul gets his ass kicked by a recently blinded man
Hilarious.
Anyway... Ashoka doesn't die and just limps away? Is that really the best they could do?
>>81322366
Well he has to die before ROTJ since the Prophecy of the Chosen One states that Anakin has to destroy the Sith.
Unless they're going to play fast and loose with the Prophecy, or chuck it entirely. Remember, it's not in the OT.
>>81322366
Maul's actually my next door neighbor, he made it all the way to our galaxy. Still trying to get revenge too.
By the way, you all can expect a Season 2 soundtrack for Rebels relatively soon.
In case you missed it, Twilight of the Apprentice (both parts) have been added to the MEGA(which is not located in the main pastebin)
>>81322086
Have a higher quality screencap
>>81322240
Thanks! Adding these to the pastebin soon, just gotta re-up to MEGA
>>81322366
>Maul is sitting in an empty void
>he's been there so long he's lost touch with reality
>he sees his hands now and believes them to be other people
>he starts plotting his revenge against his hands
>he completely fails this and his hands somehow kick his ass
>>81322341
https://youtu.be/P-bJu__WXmY?t=3m22s
At least we know one man Kanan will never lose to now.
>>81322414
*which is now
>>81322399
Maul's not a sith though, he just acts like one :^)
>>81322422
>Witwer throws in some embarrassingly weak screams to cut down my respect for my favorite childhood brute
>>81322399
Wasn't he supposed to "bring balance to the force"? Not to mention, Maul's renounced the sith
>>81322470
And ahsoka is not a jedi! So yoda and obi can be the last jedi while she's still around!
>>81322470
He think he tough?!!?!
>>81322336
Rebels is jumping in time to be right behind Rogue One and ANH with the 3rd season. Pablo already said elements from Rogue One will be showing up in Rebels, so it's entirely possible that Rebels stuff will get mentions in Rogue One as well.
>>81322497
Well Obi-Wan and possibly Mace also seem to think it involves destroying the Sith.
Reminder that we never actually see what the Prophecy is. We never actually hear the actual words of it spoken. Do we even know right now what it was? Has Lucas ever bothered to tell us?
Dat teamup tho
>>81322497
Balance to The Force = Destroy the Sith
>>81322582
all sides of the force in one image
Google Doc When?
MEGA When?
>>81322574
Lucas used to say it was the destruction of the dark side. But, he changed his mind a lot and that just happens to be my favorite george ramble.
>>81322557
Source?
>>81322444
Nigga Iggy Bot will destroy him!
>>81322620
The newest Recon
>>81322605
>MEGA When?
See>>81322414
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>>81322293
Why do so many people have trouble admitting she's definitely dead?
Filoni already confirmed it.
Just because they tried to do it all "classy and artistically" doesn't change that she's deader than dirt.
>>81321750
Being an edgy failure is why I love him.
I mean he just tries so hard you know? And gets so far... but in the end, it doesn't even matter.
>>81322643
Good. I'm fucking sick of kid hero Ezra. A more mature, yet drawn to the dark side Ezra might save the series.
>>81322602
Fixed :^)
>>81322646
I'm still not used to his elongated face.
>>81322582
Old washed up Sith, Part timer Jedi and literally who a year ago.
>>81322602
They should of tried fusing with each other
>"I served with Commander Tano from the Battle of Christophosis to the Siege of Mandalore"
>"The last time I saw him he was rushing off to save the Chancellor"
>Ahsoka knowing Maul
Fuck, are they ever gonna show us what happened? Like, I don't give a shit if it's a novel, comic, or a goddamn direct to DVD 2D animated film
There won't be any /ss/ with the female inquisitor for Ezra---- Sigh....first lothal governor dies and then the inquisitor sister, why all Rebels babes must die too soon?
>>81322422
be honest could you beat your own hands in hand to hand combat?
>>81322414
>By the way, you all can expect a Season 2 soundtrack for Rebels relatively soon.
Source?
>>81322654
>Is she alive? Is she dead? Unsurprisingly, since her fate was left ambiguous on the show, Filoni wouldn’t give an answer. But he would say this: “I’ve already been devising certain specifics around the future of that character, where she is, what’s happening, if she dies, how would she survive if she did? All of those questions. I think they eventually need to be answered—but I wouldn’t look to that, frankly, anytime soon.”
No he didn't.
>>81322665
He will just be entering his annoying teenage years that we saw Anakin in during AOTC/ROTS. That is nothing to be happy about.
>>81322682
Read Sons of Dathomir
>>81322654
pretty sure he left it open to interpretation so he can resurrect her for views if needed.
>>81322695
So she's basically in the Filoni safe zone until someone decides what to do with her?
>>81322399
People need to stop taking the OT as gospel though. For two reasons.
First, it works as a self-contained thing. You can take it by itself, with the prequels, with the other shit, whatever. Hell I don't have a problem watching the movies as Lucas' story and enjoying the spinoff stuff in its own way. Point is, nothing can actually ruin those movies because everything is derived from them.
Second, there wasn't even a plan with the OT. Lucas made it up and changed things as he went along. I mean, so you remember the "certain point of view" scene? The one that everyone memes about? That was Lucas covering his ass!
These movies do not need to be so revered or taken so literally. And people really need to stop fussing about canon, Disney or Legends, cause that road only leads to frustration. Just enjoy what you enjoy and interpret things in whatever way suits you best.
>>81322723
Yep, pretty much. And you know they're not going to say she died with that tease.
>>81322654
>Filoni already confirmed it.
Where? All he said was it was up to our interpretation. He has no problem admitting a character who died offscreen is dead straight up .
>>81322585
How much of Ahsoka's comments to Vader do you think Ezra heard? and how much did he understand? Without context, how much of it would've made sense?
>It was foretold that you would be here. Our long awaited meeting has come at last.
>I'm glad I gave you something to look forward to.
>We need not be adversaries. The Emperor will show you mercy, if you can tell me where the remaining Jedi can be found.
>There are no Jedi. You and your Inquisitors have seen to that.
>Perhaps this child will confess what you will not.
>I was beginning to believe I knew who you were behind that mask, but its impossible. My master could never be as vile as you.
>Anakin Skywalker was *weak*, I destroyed him.
>Then I will avenge his death.
>Revenge is not the Jedi way.
>I'm no Jedi.
The conversation comes out reasonably interpretable as "Oh this guy killed Ahsoka's Master".
>>81322694
I'm preparing to upload one, duh. Why else would I be called SoundtrackAnon?
>>81322054
4 years actually
Most important question of the episode. What is knowledge??? Also who was the holocron voice?
>>81322054
The timeskip will be 5 years so that they can actually have events happen during A New Hope.
>Get all 100 X-Wings to the Rebel Alliance
>Death Star plans stolen and transmitted to Tantive IV
>Dantooine evacuated
>Hoth scouted as a base location
>Relaxing vacation on Alderaan
>Get captured by the Death Star, meet Moff Kallus
>Escape thanks to Obi-Wan shutting down the tractor beam
>>81322782
I thought you were talking about an official release. So I decided to Google and it looks like we're actually getting one for both seasons.
>>81322424
That's nice, but you do realize that was combat training. He still needed Chopper to lead him around, and later Ezra.
He can sense things but he's not a Force dolphin or, frankly, Daredevil. They gave him something he'll have to adapt to, not something that, "Oh we just took your eyes but you have the Force so it's basically like we didn't." He'll have to learn new methods, and basically connect with the Force in ways he's never had to before beyond, as they showed, training to deflect attacks.
This is something meant to lead into development, something for them to show, not just shrug away, otherwise they might as well just get him some cyborg replacements and call it a day.
>>81322695
I hope they never answer it. Answering things just leads to disappointment. There needs to be some mystery in a story to keep it interesting, even after the story finishes.
>>81322746
Certainly, given some of the mediocre stories in the new canon, you can't blame certain fans for preferring the old EU.
>>81322654
I wish she was definitely dead, at least there's a commitment in that. She's not dead though, she will resurrected at some point, maybe in Rebels or maybe in a comic 10 years from now. It's inevitable.
>>81322695
>Is that what you saw? That’s so interesting. That’s so good. You know I think it says a lot about who you are, which is great. You’re an optimist, and I think that that’s strong, I think that that’s strong.
He's making fun of people who can't accept she's gone.
>I think there are still more stories to be told. I think there are stories to be told prior to Rebels with her. I think there are a lot of stories that happen right at the end of Clone Wars that we’re unaware of yet.
All future material about her will revolve around events prior to Rebels.
I really like Maul but how come they used him in Clone Wars in the first place? I always thought he had a pretty definitive death whenever Kenobi cut him in half and tossed him down a shaft. Why didn't they just use an original character donut steel?
>>81322820
Forgot the link.
https://twitter.com/amy_geek/status/713459710502899712
>>81322424
>Something Long-Time Die Hard fans have wanted
JUST SAY IT'S THRAWN YOU FAGGOT.
>>81322497
>Not to mention, Maul's renounced the sith
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa
Except for Vader, no one renounces being a Sith. The Season 2 finale made it pretty clear he is very much adherent to their teachings and traditions. Darth Maul is still a Sith Lord and will remain so till he is dead.
>She will never be a mother
“The Grand Inquisitor was a Jedi Knight,” said Filoni “He is one of the temple guards that arrests Ahsoka when she is accused of treason against the Jedi Knights. And he is also one of, more importantly, the Temple Guards in Clone Wars that is with Anakin when he fights Barriss Offee and arrests her for treason. So he is one of the two guards, I believe, that escorts her into the giant courtroom where Palpatine is overseeing everything. So he hears Barriss’ complete speech about the corruption and the state of the Senate and Jedi Order. And that is kind of like a seed that gets planted in his mind about she’s right. And when Order 66 comes out, he further realizes how right she is about all of the corruption. So it was like the beginnings of his descent into the Dark Side.”
WHAT THE FUCK
>>81322582
>Maul could have been a good guy
>We could have got fun adventures of Maul helping the Rebels
>We could have had Ahsoka getting red and blacked
So much missed potential
>>81322810
Knowledge is power.
The holocron voice isirrelevant.
>>81322863
>Maul could have been a good guy
>We could have got fun adventures of Maul helping the Rebels
>We could have had Ahsoka getting red and blacked
>So much missed potential
To make the show stupid? Yeah, I agree. Because all of that garbage is stupid.
>>81322845
this
>>81322854
Did that lightsaber REALLY hit her??? I mean they didn't REALLY show us. I mean..
>>81322844
Anon, we didn't see a hint of Revan on Malachor, why would Filoni give us Thrawn? He's a cruel master, not a loving one.
>>81322861
POTTERY THAT ASCENDS LUCAS
>>81322845
Wookfag pls
>>81322854
Just the way I like my Mirialans.
>>81322845
The Season 2 finale made it clear he hates the Sith now. Of course he still follows the dark side, it's what he is. He didn't redeem himself, but he sure isn't a Sith anymore.
>Formally Darth, now just Maul.
>>81322844
Spoiler of Pain:It's gonna be Mara Jade.
>>81322833
Are you so retarded to think they would kill a character THIS important offscreen and not even clearly say it happened? I think that Ahsoka dying would have been a good writing choice but they'd never do it this way
>>81321804
She loved him in the way a little sister loves their big brother.
>>81322871
The Voice is was already revealed in earlier threads.It's Ventress who wants someone to aim the Temple at Vos' dumb ass.
But seriously Filoni revealed it's a powerful, dominating SIth female we haven't met. He's written a backstory and even created a name for her but he wants to be sure everyone at Lucasfilm is cool with it before he reveals she isDarth Icky,
Also if Ezra keeps trying to open the holocron odds are the voice, whatever it is, some kind of Sith AI based on the original woman I guess, will no doubt still be there to talk to.
>>81322894
>Lightsaber slices her in half
>Don't show it
Damn it, Rebels.
>>81322820
>>81322842
Ooh nice! Maybe it'll have some unreleased tracks and they can be combined with the other ones!
>>81322897
Which means we'll see something come out of that temple.
Something to mirror the approach to the Jedi Temple in RotS
>>81322913
I'd be okay with that too.
>>81322863
Honestly I was very opposed to redeemed Maul but hearing him talk about being old and hating the Sith made me think it might work, I know he was manipulating Ezra but I think there was some truth to it.
He could still turn, on the other and it could also be pretty cool to bring him almost to that point and then be like nah darkside4lyfe and go out still loyal to the sith teachings.
>>81322854
Spider legs Seventh Sister when?
>>81322911
And then there was Ventress, trained as a Sith Assassin but Dooku was taking her lessons into Apprentice territory hoping to use her to kill Sidious so he could be the new Master, only that didn't end so well.
By the end they accept that she's redeemed herself.
>>81322714
That has nothing to do with Ahsoka or the Siege of Mandalore. Did you even read it?
>>81322841
Because he was a well-liked character almost universally regarded as wasted potential.
I still want Obi-wan to kill Maul
>>81322960
>Spider legs Seventh Sister
At this point nothing they do with Maul would surprise me. He's really become a fascinating character who could go anywhere.
>>81323035
Unfortunately Filoni does seem sincere that they are all dead, like Inky. Claims they weren't in the OT and the fire of the Jedi is truly perceived as dead so the Inquisitors were deemed superfluous. No rival witches and warlocks in Sheev's eternal Empire.
>>81322982
We know Ventress redeemed herself because her story is over. Maul story is not yet. Right now he's still a pretty evil dude.
>>81323024
You and me both.
>>81322911
>Formally Darth, now just Maul.
*Formerly, and he was bullshitting so they'd do what he wanted. He sheeved them.
>The Season 2 finale made it clear he hates the Sith now.
Well no shit. Of course he wants to kill other Sith Lords. Why do you think the rule of two exists?
>He didn't redeem himself, but he sure isn't a Sith anymore.
Why the fuck would he? And of course he's a Sith. Their teachings is all he has. It's part of what he is at his core. He want's power as the result of his Sith upbringing and the ways of the Sith IS the greatest way to power. So logically, he's a Sith. He cannot stop being a Sith. For any Sith other than Vader, being a Sith is like a vicious circle or something. It will never stop for an individual Sith Lord.
>>81322958
He wouldn't even have to turn to the light. You can't tell me having a former Sith Lord wouldn't be a major asset to the Rebellion.
>>81323024
He killed Darth.
>>81322182
I don't think Ahsoka or Maul will be going anywhere any time soon.
Maul will persist because there's probably some level of debate going on regarding whether or not they want to use him for an Obi-Wan film. I'm assuming that they'll eventually come to the conclusion that too many people in the mainstream audience won't buy Maul's return, and THEN he'll finally be killed off.
>>81323024
This. It has to be this way.
>>81322861
So... any waifus left? I lost the one I want pegging me and the one I'd prefer a stable, loving relationship with.
>>81323081
>We know Ventress redeemed herself because her story is over.
Ventress' story didn't end with her redemption. She went through seasons of trying to find her own path, some place to belong, before she ended up being wasted. In every sense of the world
I just realized something in the phrasing of Ahsoka's and Anakin's conversation towards the end.
Anakin says her name two times, and then Ahsoka says that she won't leave him this time.
Anakin then says 'then you will die'. Notice the then. It's almost like he was pleading for her to leave without saying anything, and they were so in tune with each othe Asoka picked up on that, prompting her to say she won't leave this time.
>>81323089
>You can't tell me having a former Sith Lord wouldn't be a major asset to the Rebellion.
He'd be a huge liability since he's only in it for his own goals and he's already proven he's willing to betray his allies for it.
>>81323116
I would prefer Ventress's story being more of a drunken comedy of a bounty hunting career.
>>81322844
It's probably the founding of the Rebel Alliance
You know the ACTUAL Rebel Alliance, with Mon Mothma and all that
>>81323078
This is what annoys me about Star Wars. How constrained things like the prequel films, TCW and Rebels have to be because they're all prequels. You even get that same feeling with things like the KoTOR series. The Sith can't win in that because the Republic exists.
I can't wait until we get a sequel cartoon where we don't know what will eventually happen to everything.
>>81323109
Leepest Dore
>>81322982
>And then there was Ventress, trained as a Sith Assassin but Dooku was taking her lessons into Apprentice territory
>>81323081
>We know Ventress redeemed herself
She was able to be redeemed becuse there is apparently a point of no return from the dark side. Ventress never crossed it. Maul on the other hand as been a full fledged Sith Lord for decades. There is no turning back for him. He's LONG past redemption.
>>81323114
>having two waifus
not how it works nigger
>>81323117
Thanks George. Beautiful.
>>81323109
It's the uniforms, anon. Itchy butts. Very common.
>>81323109
>That sad moment when I pose like that irl
>>81323114
Hera. ...or you go full headcanon and keep her alive in your thoughts.
>>81323086
>like a vicious circle
Yes. All of them seem to think "I'm not like the other sith lords" but they totally are. None of them can break the cycle. They think they're different, that their motives for wanting power, for killing their masters, for training their apprentices, are different but at the end of the day they all do the same shit and cant seem to stop.
Vader almost fell into this trap too.
Too bad Filoni decided to kill off SS.
Kinda wasteful, throwing away a perfectly good voice actor like SMG
>>81323117
I'm disappointed he didn't call her Snips
>>81323190
Maybe Maul will form a Sith Order that is comprised entirely of people who have survived bisection.
>>81323190
Things got really too kinky between her and Kanan during recording sessions. They had to do something to keep things from getting really steamy in there.
>>81323190
Its just like before when George wanted him to kill off Asoka and he couldn't do it, Asoka is still alive and Filoni sacrificed SS instead.
>>81322667
>Fixed :^)
Fixed :^)
>>81322949
>>81323227
Noble cause. It can be the Wounded Sabers Foundation.
>>81321831
>>81321661
>complaining about physics and something being campy
>in Star Wars
Wew lads
>>81323086
>He want's power as the result of his Sith upbringing and the ways of the Sith IS the greatest way to power.
He actually just seems insane. He mentions to Ezra (truthfully) that the Sith took everything from him, used him, killed his brother and his mother, etc.
He's been tortured by Sidious, and had the Sith teachings burned into the back of his brain but why does that permanently make him a Sith?
Consider this: Why was he on Malachor anyway? Why did he want to activate that temple with the Holocron? The voice in the Holocron was likely Darth Traya... who wanted to *destroy* the Force. Why can't Maul's motives now be to destroy the Sith? Maybe his plan was to use the temple to do just that.
>>81323275
Like Grevious's foundation for the survivors of the singularity engine
>>81323035
>>81322960
Seventh SisterSeven vaganias
>>81323275
Well, they're still gonna engage in wholesale slaughter, Dark Side shenanigans, and trying to shove a glass rod into the Empire's dick and break it, but now it's a non-profit.
>>81323086
>he was bullshitting so they'd do what he wanted. He sheeved them.
No doubt Maul pulled off a Sheev style ruse, but how what was a ruse and what was true?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm inclined to agree with you for the most part. But the only way I'll know what's going on in Maul's head is in S3.
>>81322958
I like the idea of a Maul who's still evil, but actually cares about his apprentice instead of seeing them as a tool.
>>81323163
Point of no return? She murdered people for a living. That's what an assassin is. She was never a nice person. All taking her training to the next level was doing was adding to her power, not her capacity for brutality.
Maul won't reform because the Sith way is sadly all he's ever known. He doesn't even remember his real name anymore. He only learned he had a brother when he met Savage and only learned who his mother was before Son of Dathomir started.
Ventress was barely a child when she was taken from the night sisters, lived among pirates, was trained as a Jedi for a fair portion of her childhood, and then fell to the Dark Side when her Master was killed. She also had the Night Sisters to help her find her way. Maul lost all of that. He's alone and all he has is his training and his need for revenge.
As much as Maul hates what was done to him and the family he was taken from he doesn't really remember anything nice or any other way of life. Their loss is just something that adds to his hate and anger. Ventress was able to reconnect with her past and find a way to give up the Sith way, even though she lost it soon after. She kept trying to find something better. That's just not something it's possible to imagine Maul doing but not because he's crossed any morale line. It's because he has nothing better to live for. He's too set in his ways.
>>81322982
True, I'm sure Dooku wanted her to be a real apprentice, but I don't think he had thought about overthrowing Sidious until he called him up and made him try and kill her off.
Once he got together with Savage, then he went full blown "I gotta kill my master" type Sith, but until then I think he was reasonably content to serve Sidious until the Clone Wars were over and rejoin him on the "winning side" him as planned.
But after Savage went rouge it seems that he never found another opportunity to turn against his master (and god knows Grievous wasn't exactly apprentice material) so he just put that on the back burner thinking, "Eh, I'll kill him and take over the Sith eventually."
>>81323116
That's definitely one way to view it, I'd be hesitant to call people who view it as a true redemption wrong, but I don't think she was truly redeemed even if she died die for love or whatever. But then, so did Vader, and that guy got to be a force ghost, so who am I to judge.
>>81323163
I'd agree with you (I don't think Maul will or should be redeemed) but then again... Vader was an evil Sith for two decades, and he redeemed with a slap on the wrist. Though I suppose being the Chosen One has its perks, which is something Maul can't exactly say.
>>81323217
Lucas' Commandments include never doing anything to diminish Vader.
>>81323086
Clearly he must be defeated until he gives up and becomes a family man.
Hey... look familiar guys?
>>81323301
>>81323319
Yes, they'll help people. Make a real difference in the galaxy.
I'm crying...
>>81322557
I'd really hate for Ezra and Kanan to be alive during ANH. I'd also really hate if Rebels continues through ANH without a complete overhaul of the show.
>>81323355
....huh. Wonder if that'll be explored or not. Is the Mother still canon?
>>81323355
huh, so the sith lord modeled sections of her temple after that one weird force monolith. Guess she went there at some point?
>>81323355
I have one of those on my bookshelf.
It makes the Sheev laugh every time I open it
>>81322274
>Technique was shown being taught in a new hope and eps 1-2
>hurr wow thanks Disney you fucked my thing I liked
Typical EU fanboy.
Maul's continued, highly implausible survival could just be Disney making sure they have a way to revive the Sith post-ROTJ if they really want to do it.
So returned to the light side inquisitor has knighted Kanan, he is now a jedi Knight. Maul is alive, characters has done major stuff and so on. They are really cutting it close to the OT now and I'm curious to what will happen in the few years that remain to new hope that will make no events or characters referenced in the OT. Best be a good explanation. The universe is big argument won't work anymore for this. Unless they decide to retcon which I think actually perhaps isn't a so bad idea.
How are they gonna hide the implications that Ezra will turn out to be Snoke or have some relation to him?
Also this scene made it canon that lightsabers can run out of energy
>>81323355
Difference between Sith and Jedi temples.. the color used.
>>81323382
No, and thank god for that.
>>81323341
>but I don't think she was truly redeemed even if she died die for love or whatever.
You have to understand the Dark Side and the Sith. The Dark Side is greed, jealousy, anger, hate, fear. The Sith view only themselves as important, they only help others when it ultimately serves their own goals.
The Sith cannot be selfless. It is not in their nature. Doing so as a Sith would be a sign of weakness, a cardinal sin in their philosophy.
By Lucas' own rules an act of self-sacrifice like that is one of the truest acts of good one can do. It doesn't erase the wrong you've done, it doesn't remove the stain of your legacy, but it is an act that proves you are beyond what the Sith are. It is truly an act of redemption, as true an act as anything you can do in Star Wars.
>>81323413
>How are they gonna hide the implications that Ezra will turn out to be Snoke or have some relation to him?
They won't, because he's not Snoke.
>>81323295
>but why does that permanently make him a Sith?
Because if one follows and adheres to Sith ways means they are a Sith. A Sith can't not be a Sith. The desire and lust for power and dominion is what they live for. Their teachings and traditions are what gives them what they desire. It's effectively their nature. When one has embraced the Sith ways there is no coming back.
Except for Vader obviously because he's force Jesus.
>Why was he on Malachor anyway? Why did he want to activate that temple with the Holocron?
>Why can't Maul's motives now be to destroy the Sith?
Oh I've no doubt he wants to destroy the Sith. All of them except for himself, of course. Which is a very Sith thing to do. Though considering the weapon was designed to destroy all life, perhaps he simply didn't know that is what it was for. Bear in mind, it has been abandoned for thousands of years, and such kinds of details can be lost in time. But I find it more likely that he was intending to use it like a DeathStar and probably just shoot the shit out Corsucant with Sidious on it.
Or perhaps the Holocron needed to be placed in the obelisk in order to be opened later.
>>81323117
I noticed that too. Felt a slight pang for him for the first time ever.
slightly related, what the hell is his helmet supposed to be made of that it was so resistant to a lightsaber? more mandalorian iron?
>>81323401
He's gone from show up and die in one movie while barely even speaking to literally invincible but also totally inept failure full of conflict.
desu I really like him now. I hope he keeps living improbably and keeps trying and failing to fuck up Sheev.
>>81323458
well I hope he is because otherwise snoke has nothing interesting going on
>>81323341
Sith 101, anon. Find yourself a Secret Apprentice to train up and help you kill your Master and take his place. Or the Master can train a Secret Apprentice if one is deemed of greater potential than the current one, which is what Sidious did to Anakin over years and years, slowly working to corrupt the Jedi teachings and plant the seeds of Sith ideals.
The only reason for Dooku to start training Ventress as an Apprentice was ultimately to make his own play for power. Because the Master embodies power and the Apprentice craves it.
>>81323327
>Point of no return?
Yeah. She pretty much outright implied it in Dark Disciple.
>>81323413
Snoke is Kanananananan
>>81323401
This is highly believable if you look at thing's from Disney's perspective.
Disney is trying to manage Star Wars like some bundle of assets. It has characters, settings, locations, ideas, even lines of dialogue that will translate into money. What Disney wants is to maximize its profits. It will keep open any possible option that leads to this.
Why else would they not let Abrams blow up Coruscant? They need Coruscant. Coruscant can make them money. They're saving it.
>>81323530
>She pretty much outright implied
That's not exactly a very definite statement.
>>81323292
This has gone from falling large distances and surviving to falling large distances and flattening on the pavement to picking yourself up and re inflating yourself to keep chasing that roadrunner.
Is it 100% official that Rex is the gramps on Endor yet?
>>81323401
They could always just have someone find a hidden Sith Temple or lost holocron. No need for a living Sith for their legacy to survive.
>>81323596
That's an OC donut steel character. Rex would be dead by then anyway.
>>81323549
Well, at one point she went on to Vos or someone that if she had kept going on the way she was under Dooku, the dark side would've consumed her. That's why she insisted on training Vos to a certain point. Her intent was to get him to use the dark side without crossing the line and completely loosing himself to the dark side. Apparently neither she nor Vos did cross that line. But Maul being a Sith Lord obviously did long ago.
I for one liked the helicopter lightsabers.
Kinda highlighted how the inkies rely on technology because their training is flawed.
>>81323596
Filoni has stated he's aware of the fanon idea and would love to make it happen.
>>81323181
>That sad moment when I pose like that irl
that's super cringy
>>81323596
>Is it 100% official that Rex is the gramps on Endor yet?
It's very implausible. Unless he was carbon frozen, it can't be him. Rex is already 56 physically. By then he'd be definitively elderly and too decrepit to engage in ground warfare.
And that guy doesn't look the least bit Maori.
Why do I want to see Ezra to accept dark side candy from nice old man Maul and they get into his van so they can have nice dark side fun time together
>>81323481
>The desire and lust for power and dominion is what they live for.
Nihilus lived to consume, and that trait was orthogonal to him being a Sith. He was just a fucked up being
Traya lived to *end the force*. This is self-destruction even though she was a masterful Sith lord by all accounts.
Maul seemed to know enough about the temple to understand what it did.
>>81323635
I like that it gave a reason for their spinning since combat wise the spinning was sort of stupid, as seen by Inky's death.
>>81323624
She talks about the Night Sisters learning to balance the Light and the Dark. They aren't Grey but they can use either side and not become a slave to it. For instance they can use the Dark Side but they still have love and loyalty, even if it's primarily to their sisters. Neither are they so enamored with the Light that they aren't adverse to killing a mofo if it suits them.
>>81322829
He may not, I sure can. I remember when I first found out what the NJO series was about.
I can honestly say vector prime burned me on Star Wars for a pretty long time.
Chewbacca getting a moon dropped on him, what a fucking joke. And then of course the gasping breath of 90's tier uber-edge with the S&M aliens from the galaxy over, who're super duper strong and force immune, and hate technology and only use biotech, and they like piercings and their armor is lightsaber proof ;), and fucking Christ how did anyone think this shit was ok?
It's fucking inexcusable.
A lot of fanfiction is legitimately less try-hard and cringe inducing than this.then again it is kinda fan fiction now, from a certain point of view. Heh, who's laughing now, RA Salvatore?
>>81323596
Rex would be ancient by the time of RotJ
Accelerated aging and all that
>>81323665
>Why
because you're a faggot
Sam Witwer is cute! CUTE!
>>81323596
>It's a "Phasma tries to be popular with the boys" episode
>>81323700
Objective Truth
So what wasAhsoka's funerallike? I'm certain they told Rex and decided to have a proper service and everything.
>>81323655
RotJ isn't even a full decade after Rebels though.
>>81323682
He only ages twice as fast as normal though.
>>81323667
>Maul seemed to know enough about the temple to understand what it did.
That remains to be seen. Self destruction is not a Sith trait. If he knew that the temple was a weapon meant to destroy all life, I doubt he'd have bothered with it unless he was able and knew how to control it and use it on a lesser scale comparable to a Death Star.
>Nihilus
>Traya
>Legends
>lol
