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>>78137430
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/
>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed
>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/
>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#
>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.
Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo [Embed]
Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
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>>78137462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNV41l88gfYThis is what you get for making me do this again.
>>78137430
You know what I want for Christmas?
A good story.
>>78137430
shit we had a lot of good activities last time and nobody did 'em. i pert near forgot they existed, what with the long break
Reposting today's page in case anybody missed it. What do you guys think?
>>78138295
that fourth panel
those video titles
top notch yo
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>>78138295
>>78138357
also.... wait.. that second panel
is that...
>Deviants is still the biggest draw and spikes on update days but dies down considerably through the rest of the week
>Super Sexy pulls in half the number of people on update days compared to Deviants but keeps a more consistent number of visitors for the rest of the week
>Super Sexy is going to stop updating in a couple weeks
SS has been getting more and more popular. Seems I underestimated how popular it'd get on its own. Oh well, if I need to I might go back to it but for now I'm still going to focus on Deviants.
belongingtonobody.tumblr.com
>>78139448
is.. is that a spooky alien face
Do your best tho
>>78139653
yup
>>78139358
You're always gonna get those spikes on update days compared to the rest of the week. Most people don't bother going to a comic's site that they know hasn't updated yet unless the update is late or there's an indefinite hiatus.
>>78140112
awesome
and extra spookles because iirc that ship is rrl big based on other shots. did not expect it to be a single-seater
God damn, drawing with a cold sucks ass.
3-page update which closes out Chapter 4. this guy's hat is making less and less sense as i draw it.
http://luckyhazard.thecomicseries.com/comics/46
Update time!
http://amonguscomic.com/comic/blocking-it-out/
http://amonguscomic.tumblr.com/post/135094291570/update-read-this-comic-at
>>78142977
een soviet outer space, cats eat alf!
funny shit, i like how i was analyzing the backtround of the bottom left panel as you knew i would, and while i was pondering how anyone can stand to cover over something they worked hard on writing, the last bit kicked in and i got a secondary smile
>>78142053
404, m8
>>78143145
try this?
luckyhazard.thecomicseries.com
I started drawing my comic as a parody of itself because I just wanted to throw the story out there, but now I'm 50 pages in and I'm starting to take it more seriously. Should I continue through the comic at the current pace I'm going and fix the beginning later, or stop now, go back, and redo it all to be consistent and well-written?
How do you guys handle fight scenes?
Do you do one page at a time, or dump every page at once?
>>78143145
I actually saved that wall of text in case anybody wanted it, haha.
>>78143623
shit that's a tough one. i wanna say there have been things in the past that started out as parodies and slowly became something greater. Kinda like Nadesico? Except that was more of a deconstruction-reconstruction.
i say, depending on the story, give a meta-reason for things to change. for all that it sucked kind of, shortpacked "pulling the drama tab" was a clever way to address its slight cerebus syndrome (i feel dirty using all those tropenames but they're so damned useful)
>>78143479
no dice
>>78144332
I think I get the gist of it now
>>78144148
I prefer fights to get dumped as one or two big updates, but I realize that puts unfair strain on their inclusion
>>78144148
What you mean by 'handle' them? Writing (script), composing (storyboad), drawing or uploading?
>>78144475
Uploading
Man, my hands are hurting because of the stress and drawings.
It is really affecting my art.
>>78144624
Personally I would upload them at regular schedule. If your comic has a lot of fights going on, i'd consider 2 week or monthly uploads with a chunk of pages at once, or, better even a chapter.
>>78144400
dunno what to tell you then man. sorry
>>78144721
In my webcomic, most of the fights are kind of like "boss fights". With little fights sprinkled in between.
Anybody know how to used gimp or should i used another art program?
>>78145017
I use Paint tool Sai religiously.
>>78145046
It is on PC.
Or are you from the mac?
>>78145082
It's on PC. It might be on mac as well, I have no idea.
>>78145189
Hey, What is your web comic?
>>78144400
It kind of already happened? The shift started when the Plot started going down and even then it was kind of "this is stupid but hey here's what would happen," and now I want to turn it around to be better than it is. I still have a long way to go artwise but it's a start.
>>78144891
oh hey it's working now
>>78144695
gotta rest, man. take it from the creator of Sybil. You can't push this shit. it will go from 'really affecting your art' to really STOPPING your art. Like, semi-permanently.
>>78145017
the plurality of reccommendations in these threads point to mangastudio/clipstudio as the best compromise of all you could want from a program, including price, versatility, stabilizer, tools, and required processing power (though one person recently did report it was a memory hog for them, most say the opposite). Its main drawback is the painting ability isnt as good as photoshop, from reports.
>>78145294
Ennui GO!
http://ennuigo.smackjeeves.com/comics/
The brush size fidelity in Sai feels a lot better to me than Photoshop. Although I use Photoshop to add text, since Sai doesn't do that.
>>78145421
ants i tell you
i like this art. can you summarize what happened that changed in terms of seriousness? because i'm curious, and this is something worth studying.
my comic has gotten slightly more serious over time but only in a 'different sort of humor' way, I think. in the way that sealab is different from frisky dingo which is in turn different from archer.
in any case, go ahead and run with it as-is. No need to redo the old stuff, but someday once it's all complete, feel free to sort of do a 'dragon ball kai' of it.. or to use a different metaphor, a 'version of the hobbit we're all aware of as opposed to the original'
>>78145601
Fuck...I know this is dumbass question and you probably going say "Google it".
But, Where do you download it?
>>78145636
Yeah the image is a lot smaller than I thought idk why sorry.
As far as what changed, the first major plot point where someone dies happened, and that's what causes the whole story to go off. At first all the characters were reduced to their basic personality traits (loser, stoner, psychopath, the Girl etc), but now I'm at the very beginning of fleshing them out in story, slipping in exposition, etc.
>>78145721
Yeah, literally google it. It's like the first result.
There is a beta for Sai 2 as well, which is gonna have a lot more features, but its kind of a clunky demo so far.
>>78145448
ah glad to hear it!
>>78138063
Ah man this is so close to looking really really good. But those gradients with the soft smudges are kind of driving me nuts.
I wish I had a less aggressive way of saying it too.
>>78145881
Thanks for the tips.
Sorry for asking dumb ass questions.
I actually JUST finished the three page origin story for a character I created - Tether Wing. Here's the first page. You can read the other two at http://drewmaru.deviantart.com/gallery/
>>78145878
Yeah I don't think there'll be any problem with this. At most you might want to put up a guide on your site saying "hey nothing much happens til ___ so you can just enjoy the ride or skip to the plot bit or whatever"
>>78146081
hmm. one of the more legit excuses for a gender bender hero. not remotely up my alley, but not bad at all. none of the cringe you'd expect. aaand pretty decent superhero premise too.. though I hope the witch that cursed him remains part of the story, because otherwise it's like.. why isnt she making tons of these
>>78145421
>>78145878
Sorry man, but the unoriginal artstyle is so off putting i can't and wouldn't be able to get into it unless it had an amazing story and characters. Character look generic and rip-off's. (you know what i mean.) The ideas there
>>78146081
You have my attention
>>78147510
I'm not sure what you mean by rip-offs, but I agree, my artstyle sucks balls. I'll try to develop it more.
>>78147796
I thought it was cute. And while it's not original at all, it is very well done for what it is. Reminds me of kind of a pleasant hybrid of prussian moose's style and monica ray's Either way it's expressive as fuck and gets the job hella done.
how does one handle the pressures of time vs. quality
>>78140143
Yeah but it looks like SS actually has a consistent turnout and it is gaining popularity while Deviants is just netting a chunk of views one day a week.
Despite my interest in /ss/ I didn't really care much about that story. It was just a boy being pressured and molested into having sex. I would've eventually got around to doing a story. Goes to show how good a fetish is.
Maybe people wil like the extra light bondage and slight mind control that Deviants will offer. Not even my fetish but it's subtle and fits the narrative.
>>78148878
Pacing. Don't rush it but don't stay on thing for too long. Know when to move and if need be fix afterwards when you have spare time.
How many people here are writing a webcomic with an overarching story? Beginning, middle, and end?
>>78148878
pretend you have less time than you really do.
then, when you're finished on "time", you have the option to either go back and touch things up some more, or forge on ahead.
doing good work in a short amount of time is an invaluable skill, and it's not something you can learn just by being good at drawing or having lots of time.
>>78146081
If genderbending is the main focus here what makes it any different from any other 2015 comic being diverse and open minded?
>>78147028
>>78147614
Thanks. Yeah, she would be a major character. As I said, in pages' descriptions, I would only really consider continuing this if it got enough attention. My main focus is my comic, Spirit Legends, which takes up most of my free time as it is my passion project, so it would probably take a lot fan interest to make me consider creating a series out of it. Or hey, if a comic company wanted to pick it up, I'd love to work on it so I could quit my job and focus on comics.
>>78149050
I'm not sure what the others have to offer, but I know I would plan for the interactions int he sorority house and keeping the secret, plus its not a genderbend. He's a feminine looking guy with the outfit having what looks like breasts. It's still a guy even after activating the powers. I have ideas for what exactly the power is, who else gets similar powers, some rivals, and not TOO much else that I'd want to go into detail on in case anyone decides to steal the ideas or something lol
I'd hate to say "tell everyone about it because i wont work on it unless i get enough attention". that's not the plan. i just dont have any immediate plans to continue it just yet. it was based on a crazy dram i had and i wanted to share an adaptation of my crazy dream, but if i had enough people wanting more then i'd probably be excited enough to continue it.
>>78138063
I like everything so far as always, but:
-the fight scene is dragging a little because so many movements are expressed with multiple pictures (like the undercut to the chin). In a fight scene, it is challenging to maintain suspense and one important tool for that is pacing. Fast turns here and there keeps the reader alert for the unexpected. The strike to the chin could have worked as a "sentence interrupted by a punch" -moment much better if done with only one or two pictures, so the reader doesn't have too much time to expect it (or at least underline how sudden attack was and why the antagonist had no time to react.)
-the dialogue is clearly intentionally cliche and I don't mind it, but I think the narration is unnecessary if it doesn't add anything we don't already see.
Overall however this comic is wonderful.
>>78138295
I forgot it was a KICK to the chin, my bad.
>>78149376 this was meant for
>>78149368
>>78149169
>>78149208
In reminded of Shezow and what it could be. Is attention all you need? Sorry I'm on my phone right now so I can't look at everything just yet.
>>78149459
Well, i mean i need a bunch of people to be interested. like a fanbase. its tough enough to be motivated to even work on my passion project. i can't imagine picking up a second seris to work on two with no fanbase. why, can you help? if u know anything then feel free to shoot me an email at [email protected]
>>78149578
I'm not super famous but I could help spread the word. I will have to say that I run an NSFW websit but I have interests outside of that.
Your comic can get a fan base that's into traps. I could help with writing or art as a second set of eyes. If you are interested let me know and I can shoot you an email.
>>78149677
Sure I'd love to talk more about it!
>>78149702
Sent!
>>78144695
This might sound weird but take tumeric pills if you can afford it. I have tendonitis is both my thumbs and it was the only thing to stop the pain.
>>78149758
Thanks! I noticed the email, but it's almost 7am where I am and I have work in a few hours so I'll respond as soon as I can. I'm curious though if you think you can only help if it's NSFW. I want planning on pushing it to adults only, but I was contemplating making it mature
>>78149860
It doesn't have to be xxx. It could be cheesecake and I would recommend that. Anything more than that is fine by me.
Happy to hear from you soon.
>>78149907
Cool thanks! I'll try to respond after work if I don't pass out. Otherwise I'll respond ASAP. Good night! :D
>>78146081
You are quite literally the worst.
>>78137502
>dont reply to bones
who?
>>78147028
There's no such thing as a "legit excuse" for that fetish. It's a fetish. If you need an excuse you're doing it wrong.
Also it's crossdressing.
And page done.
So is anybody doing any Christmas special stuff related with their webcomics?
>>78150578
If he can fit it in between drawing pages, my artist is going to do a Christmas pic and put it on his Tumblr.
>>78150578
>pickel
>>78150659
fuck. there's always one fuck up every time.
thanks!
>>78145540
>[Manga Studio's] main drawback is the painting ability isnt as good as photoshop, from reports.
While this was certainly true of MS4, it's a hell of a lot better in MS5.
For those on a budget, both MediBang Paint and the virtually identical FireAlpaca are free, and have tools specifically for making comics with.
>>78150578
I'm busy on a christmas flash.
>>78151537
If it doesn't involve Annabeth I won't watch it/
>>78143623
I just upload on my regular schedule; my fight scenes just aren't very long and I try to make enough happen with each page.
Anyhow, two pages finished this week since I couldn't finish my page last week. I think the sunset colors turned out pretty well.
>>78151581
All of the main six will be in it, don't worry anon.
>>78151610
But I just want to see Annabethand Jack together
>>78151603
In any case, I probably won't have time to make a new page on new year's week' which I why I really wanted to miss any weekly pages before that
>>78137430
Currently making this fancomic of OPM, already thinking/concepting/writing my own comic idea. Prob gonna start in a month or two
>>78151695
also if i made a webcomic where would i post it ? any ideas ( 1 chaper usualy 30 - 50 pages )
>>78151636Yeah, you won't get to see much of that sense Jack is jewish.
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>>78146081
>>78149169
>>78149208
Finally home so I can assess all this better!
A trap comic, oh boy oh boy oh boy!
>>78146081
Man, with a costume design like you are going to fucking hate yourself. That looks like a pain in the ass to draw.
>>78152050
also it looks terrible
I haven't done much lately, mostly because I've been working the seven days of the week for the last 2 weeks, and I've been piling exhaustion.
Anyway, not webcomic, but last thread there was the activity to draw OC with Winter clothes and made a pinup, and thought it wasn't enough, so I just made the full body version of the same clothes.
I'll have something for tomorrow for sure, the activity in this thread is giving me ideas, I'll try to get something done once I finish labeling every stupid patchcord I was assigned to do.
>>78151644
This looks great, but the onomatopoeias mimetize with the background too much. Personal opinion here, but I think they should have a border line.
>>78150578
I want to make an extra, I made one last year that I really liked, might try again this year, but I need to get back on track first.
>>78142977
This is great! I still need to colour the fanart I did before. I'll get into it one of these days, promise.
>>78151914
Stop jerking us around and have them fuck already, Dewd. That's the only reason anybody reads your comic, to see Annabeth and Jack fuck.
Here's the tile card for the christmas special!
>It's an SD episode.
>>78152133
Guess we'll have to keep on reading to see if that'll happen :^)
>>78152370
No, do it now. You are beholden to your readers.
>>78152387
Woah friend, I think you may need to slow down.
Don't wanna eat that steak too fast :^)
>>78146081
So, while the guy is at work, I thought I'd play around with this story and see what you guys think.
First off, maybe having big breasts shouldn't be part of the costume. His allure should come from his butt and hips, something he inherits from his mother's side of the family.
Tone back the Trunks-like spiky hair a bit.
Give him subtle feminine features.
He always has an unsure look on his face and his posture can either be feminine or lacking confidence.
I think it'd be more interesting if everyone knew he was a boy but all the guys still flirt with him and nobody thinks it's gay. Then again that Boku Girl manga started off the same way. The Sorority route is good, too.
>>78151644
Is your comic really named "song of the sea?". Because there's already a fairly well known and prestigious animated movie by that name, your comic is likely to forever stay buried in any search results if you stick with that.
>>78153252
Not the artist but the comic is called The Green Knight.
>>78152591
2gay4me
2wishfulfillment2binteresting
>>78153403
I see. The filenames fooled me.
>>78152591
I dunno, I'm not that good at designing costumes. All I keep thinking is Bayonetta, Omega Red, and Dr. Octopus rolled up into one. Basically tone down everything and have it so that the tendrils aren't all over the place. Maybe have them be like straps so they can better and more cleanly wrap around stuff.
Do away with the skirt and have a thick belt with the insignia on the crotch to keep the crotch covered.
Okay, maybe they need "breasts."
No shoes but those things superheroes wear with their skintight costumes. Overall the costume should be skintight.
>>78153438
You're probably right.
>>78153252
Nah; it's called The Green Knight; Song of the Sea was a placeholder name because at the time I couldn't think of anything
>>78152128
Yeah, I noticed that too; maybe I'll try wat you suggest, drawing borders over the crackles and snaps shouldn't tkae too long.
>>78151644
There's an issue with the shading here. It's very campfire at night lighting and not sunset lighting (I'm assuming the shadows are like that because it's sunset?)
>>78148910
you know you can still make it big with a series of oneshots
>>78137430
New page of our manga:
http://circlejerk.de/pravitate
I'm switching to a new reader soon, because the old one resizes the pages and it looks like shit.
Free manga reader software is kinda hard to get nowadays...
>>78154389
Oh, and it's read from left to right.
>>78154405
Then it's not a manga.
>>78154494
It looks more like a manga then a regular comic, though. I also call manwha manga, even though they're read from left to right, because everyone knows what I mean.
As soon as there's a word for German manga, I'll use it.
>>78154226
I don't really have it in me for one-shots but I have had thoughts of doing something similar to comics.
There's a really hot image that Aeolus did for next week's fanart and I ended up writing a story to go along with it.
I was thinking of turning one month into a 4-5 chapter fapfic with each week having a chapter and an image to go with it.
>>78149169
>I would only really consider continuing this if it got enough attention.
i know that feeling. i don't think it's a good idea to make a WEBCOMIC that you "only do if it gets attention"
individual pieces, when you feel like it and need that boost, sure.. but an ongoing comic? that's not really fair to the few who will inevitably end up getting attached. YOU Should be attached, and if you're not, no prob. do something else.
>>78150499
an in-universe excuse, dude. which is really important. if a piece of fiction is nothing but 'hey real person in the audience, look at this!' that's boring as fuck
>>78153606
i think it made perfect sense already: the thick 'dress' part of the suit adds to his hips in a more believable way that nobody's going to notice it's just costume
>>78153916
so it's not the chapter name?
>>78154540
wahllose Zeichnung
call it wahlzeich
all the bucks
>>78154389
hey can you share your steam/skype , i tried to contact you via Website form it didnt work.
>>78154590
Yeah, I know that feeling too. "Why am I wasting hundreds of hours of my life on this project if there's only a couple of dozen people who bothered to follow it, and even they are barely interested in it."
>>78154553
shit oneshots are a lot easier for me.
>>78154878
That's the catch, isn't it? You won't get much attention early on unless you're something special that 99.999% of other webcomics aren't, so multiple years of work are basically always required for something like this if you really want it to take off.
>>78154878
yeah.. so like, fanart? I only do fanart if it gets attention and interest
but my own shit, -i- like it, so i keep doing it no matter what
>>78154942
The problem with getting followers by drawing fanart is that they're only really following you because you drew them fanart, not because they're really interested in you comic.
>>78155072
Fanart only works if your original content is derivative.
I tried making SU fanart and I got views and likes, but my content was completely ignored. When I dropped the fanart I was back to square one.
>>78148159
Thanks. I've been using that style mostly because it lets me churn out pages relatively quickly. It doesn't take a lot of effort. I want to be able to draw better, but I've found that I get caught up with being absolutely perfect and then all the stuff I'm working on comes to a halt because I start hating what I'm looking at. I'd love some critiques or advice.
>>78155072
exactly. so if you just feel like getting satisfaction, do cheap crowdpleasing stuff. don't do a longterm comic unless YOU are really into it and would keep doing it even if nobody watched
>>78155210
they just look like two different people is all. i would reduce the massive cheekbulge a bit but keep using it on anyone who should be a little chubbycute, and not-use it on anyone who doesnt
>>78155355
I've already dropped 1000+ follower r34 blogs, so yeah, this is the decision I've made.
>>78139448
update
extra blog:
dumcasta.tumblr.com
miscellany art and some discussion in maybe a couple hours.
>>78156467
Is she supposed to be happy or sad?
>>78154104
Yeah; I had issues with the lighting because I wasn't sure if the placing of the shadows would be determined mainly b the fire or by the sun.
Do you think it would be better if I made the shadows a darker blue and made the sky more blue-to-orange like the sunset sky sometimes is?
>>78154817
I'm not sure what the chapter's name will be YET. I still have to see about that
>>78156660
I think part of the problem is that sometimes literal translations of things don't work in cartoons. I know that sunsets tend to make more orange light and shadows. Yours don't feel warm like that. I'd say just Google sunset shadows or the like to get an idea of how it'll work. Making the shadows lighter and softer might help though.
>>78156499
>YES! That fucking white boy is dead!
Thank anon, You make me happy!
>>78156467
wtf is that expression?
>>78158034
>>78156499
looks like that's just the upward curve of her beak thing, she's clearly in distress.
What's driving you to draw your comic, anon?
>>78158433
The hope that someday it gets me money.
>>78158433
Because the experiences in my life give me a unique perspective that I need to share with the rest of the world.
>>78156467
>releasing story heavy webcomic in 4 panel updates which consist of tiny squares
Is this just a webcomic for yourself and you don't give a fuck?
>>78158433
It is hobby, I like making stories even through I always mess up or my art is bad.
>>78158433
Deep down inside of me beneath all the scars and abuse and self-loathing and crying fits there's an unwavering band of light telling me that what I'm doing is good, and if I keep doing it one day I'll be good too.
>>78158633
Are you suggesting a four panel format is inappropriate for a heavy story driven webcomic? Because that would be a pretty stupid thing to claim, given there are obvious couter examples to prove you wrong.
Also, anon, the page you're replying to has two panels.
Here's a WIP!
Changed up Jack's eyes so he can look younger, because he is only 16. Took some cues form olden anime.
>>78155210
You drawings look pretty and refined. However, you're using very simplistic version of construction. Your characters are basically 2D people living in 2D world.
I recommend watching this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KfmA6cEpU0
If you improve your construction technique, you'll be able to draw characters that give the illusion of 3D better. You'll also draw better characters with almost the same speed you're using now.
>>78158552
Lame
>>78158604
I like it
>>78158645
I like this too
>>78158653
Listen to that light, anon
>>78158779
>Using youtube.
>>78158433
how would you feel if someone created your universe then stopped writing your adventures? i can't stop til everyone has a happy ending
>>78158834
Plenty of good artists on youtube.
>>78158766
Did I miss a page? When does Jack run into Angel?
>>78158757
No, he's suggesting that nunc's comic is unreadable because 4 panels make it terribly paced, and the fact they are each the same size makes each scene exposure monotonously similar.
>>78158766
>your a mormon!
>>78158928
He ran to her house. I should probably have a captioon that says "Angel's house" or something.
>>78158959
Thank your Grammar anon.
>>78158959
>"he's" not saying a four panel comic is inappropriate for a story heavy comic, "he's" just saying a four panel comic is inappropriate for a story heavy comic.
Well... which is it?
>>78158433
Being able to tell the story that I would want to read.
>>78158914
Did you actually sub to him?
>>78158993
Yeah, do something to show that Jack is now at Angel's house. I would do the classic "Later, at Angel's house..." thing but you do what fits best in your comic's style.
>implying Dewd's comic has a style
>>78158766
he is more chipper now!
Angel has learned to make sure her panels aren't too exploitable. also she is hilarious
>>78158993
btw you also have 'your' in the first panel
>>78158757
Other comics are better drawn, have better stories, better panel layout, and better dialogue.
I'm not trying to shit on him, because from how often he updates it's clear he likes his work. If it's for himself, then it's not my business. If he wants to cultivate a readership, then why wouldn't he try to improve the panel layout and pacing? There are obviously glaring flaws there.
>>78158959
when it comes to following one panel to another, I do a lottt better if the panels are all similar and neatly lined up
>>78159091
Are you familiar with a webcomic called Endtown, anon? It's pretty good, you should try it.
>>78159091
>why don't people think the way i do? isn't it obvious they should do the things i'm suggesting if they want success?
i know you're trying to help but you need to understand how messed up that kind of thinking is. that's a hair away from "why do you dress X way if you don't want people to react Y way?"
>>78159026
Yes
>>78159091
This started become like a "Dewd witch-hunt" but with nunc comics?
>>78159250
it's not a witch hunt, people just have really narrow-minded understanding of things where they think that their idea of quality is not only fact rather than opinion, but OBVIOUS fact. So instead of phrasing things as helpful suggestions, they act like they're stooping down to help someone who has missed something right in front of them. even if it's good advice, nobody responds well to that
>>78159091
If you've got issue with the story telling or dialogue, why not bring those up?
Why bitch about something completely irrelevant like panel format?
Furthermore, if you have an issue with panel format, why didn't you tell him that when he posted a four panel page and instead waited until he posted a splash page with a mini insert?
I'm replying to Bones, aren't I?
>>78159330
you're not helping either. keep your jimmies unrustled
>>78159330
We are not using Bones as a Boogey-man.
He is just a angry critic.
>>78159140
I'm not here to convince you, so let's leave it at that. Your viewer #'s speaks for itself. Keep doing the same you if you have no qualms with what you already got.
>>78159007
Are you fucking dense? There is nothing story heavy about a ship flying around in space shooting at other ships. By depicting a space fight in 4 panel format with little change between scenes and nothing to anchor the characters as being somewhere, even the void of space, all you've done is made the world's most boring dogfight.
Of course, it's more polite to phrase it like that than to simply call it dogshit which isn't helpful at all to nunc
>>78159095
That works when you're doing a Penny Arcade kind of comic, but doing a story where a lot of action or travel happens you need to be able to differenciate panels from one another. Keeping them all the same size will prevent them from having their own sense of time.
Take for example this really old strip from Atland, where even just changing the widths of 4 panels affects your sense of time while watching the scene play out.
>>78159330
>Why bitch about something completely irrelevant like panel format?
Do you even comics?
>>78159330
>panel format
>completely irrelevant
Are you on this board only for the cartoons and memes?
Nice to see good ole HYWC is still showing their love with hate.
So comfy.
>>78159449
We also show our hate with love!
>>78159408
so if it's not story heavy then what's your gripe?
I disagree with the rest of what you're saying. also that example you gave is A) hard to read and B) not a good example of what you're saying at all
From a comic tournament I'm in right now...
>>78159398
it's incorrect to be results-oriented in an area of life with a heavy amount of random chance and personal taste involved
>>78159411
>>78159438
it's one of the most irrelevant parts. you might as well bitch about framerate in games
>>78159411
I do even comics. Which is why I know there's nothing wrong with a four panel format.
>>78159449
eh you missed out. we had some snuggleness going on while you were gone
>>78159542
No wonder your comic is shit
ITT: poseurs
>>78159591
>No wonder your comic is shit.
What is your comic?
>>78159518
So you ARE dense then.
>>78159543
It depends man. Theoretically there's nothing wrong, but there's a lot you can do with paneling to change everything the reader gets from the scene. Four panels doesn't just mean 4 identical squares.
>>78159568
Aww.
Does anyone have experience with printing some comic books?
I want to print some short story comic books and sell them at a local convention. I'm wondering if theres any profit in it, and how much it'd cost to get like 100, 25 page comics printed.
>>78159877
It's all reliant on economy of scale first and foremost, and beyond that, how fancy you want the printed books to be. Getting 1000 books printed is cheaper per book than getting 100 printed. Basically it requires contacting a number of printers, figuring out your options, and then just comparing prices, and figuring out a profit margin.
>>78159793
>someone i can quote agrees with me, therefore i am right!
i bet you add a lot of 'citation needed' tags
>>78159925
Cry more, shit artist
>>78159925
It's like dobson 2.0.
>>78158959
> 4 panels
As someone who started out with the idea of a simple 4 panel format, I found it really restrictive.
If you do it like Endtown/Ava's Demon and have a really tight schedule you can make it work, but otherwise I'd take the suggestions here and make it a regular page or something analogue.
>>78160051
What's like Dobson 2.0?
What the fuck are you even trying to say except for quoting memes?
>>78160051
>dobson 2.0.
I am not that guy, But you need better comparison. You don't need to mention him in every fucking thread.
>>78160091
Nothing, just memes man. You're right, 4 square panels is the key. Keep it up.
>>78160155
Maybe you could come up with an actual argument as to why four panels is bad?
I don't think you could explain why Dobson is bad either, but it'd be fun to watch you try.
>>78160191
they don't have to defend it, it's a valid suggestion
but it wasn't phrased as a suggestion or opinion
>>78160191
My two cents: every page should make something happen, advance character or introduce a new element.
Half-pages are a handicap because of this. As I said if you have a tight schedule you can mitigate this fact, but if you don't you're forcing the reader to go through twice the content to get a page's worth of advancement.
>>78160237
>they don't have to defend it it's valid
If it's valid then it should be easy to defend. I'd like to know why Endtown sucks because it has 4 panels.
>>78160278
If something important happens in one or two panels, why would you add extra unnecessary panels just to make it four?
>>78160365
i think only CYOA type comics can get away with a one or two panel update
>>78160392
I agree with this post, UNLESS it's a splash page type deal. But you can't be doing those all the time.
>>78160365
There's nothing wrong with full page spreads or establishing shots, but since you are releasing single pages, what you accomplish on every update becomes important. If you make it less panels, you either have to compress the pacing or wait till the next page.
I don't think it's super big of a deal and there's really no scientific evidence in favor of 'standard' page, so take it with a grain of salt like all the other advice you see in here (and don't ignore it either).
>>78159541
Lookin
>>78159557
Pretty
>>78159579
Goooooooooood!
>>78159877
I get my own comics printed, and sell them at conventions. There's probably not a lot of profit in it, as the costs of table, transport, etc all take their cut.
As >>78159904 says, getting 1000 printed will be cheaper per unit than getting 100 printed, but are you certain you can sell 1000 copies? 100 is a good baseline for an initial run to test the waters. You could probably even do 50 or less if there's little difference per unit than printing 100.
Shop around for printers, to compare costs, and also see if they actually know what a comic book is supposed to look like (I've heard stories of people getting a comic back from the printers and it was all single sided pages spiral bound).
Cost wise, your cover price should be around three times what it cost to print (my comics cost me about £1 to print each, I sell them for £3). However, bear in mind what similarly sized comics cost (currently £3 is about average for a 24pp, A5 small press/indy comic in the UK); you don't want to be trying to sell your comic for $9 when everyone else is selling theirs for $5.
Your comic will need to have 24 or 28 pages, or any multiple of 4. You might want to run off a copy or two at home, just to have some idea of how it's put together, and to have something to show the printers.
If you're based in the UK, I can recommend some printers who specialise in making comics.
>>78137430
cant work on my webcomic right now, in to much pain, wish i could, all i can do is these quick chicken scratch sketches
here, have a batgirl sketch i did last night
i will get to a dentists and get these teeth pulled and get back to work on my comic as soon as i can, until then mind numming pain that turns my brain off and burns the entire left side of my face and ear and fucks with my heart, also feels like a butcher knife and crowbar lodged into my top and bottom jaw, i think im dying bros, think im about to pull my own tooth with a pair of pliers... fuck this gay earth
its hard for me to be on the computer to long, peace yall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF2tULbsE3g
Never been on this board before but made a comic for uni and would like outsider opinions on it.
http://beanyellow.tumblr.com/post/134869287354/comic-done-for-uni-about-chimps
>>78160985
>http://beanyellow.tumblr.com/post/134869287354/comic-done-for-uni-about-chimps
nice art
>>78160596
man i just printed out CD covers and handed out data CDs with all my comic files
>>78160985
hoho! reversal!
>>78161140
That's just not the same as having a real book.
>>78161110
Thanks, I really enjoyed drawing it.
>>78161246
Reversal?
>>78161297
well that's not fair, i guess people dont go hunting chimps
but we would if there were more than like 6 of them
>>78161140
You can't read a CD on the train or bus going home from the convention, not unless you brought a laptop with you.
That said, if you have an unusual/unprintable format (e.g. infinite canvas, animated panels, branching storylines etc) then a data CD makes some sense.
So, the only way to have activity in here is when shit starts flying?
>>78161331
Ah I see, I thought "reversal" was a /co/ colloquialism
>>78161291
tru dat. but I had over 1000 comics,.. and i was giving it out for free to all my friends for christmas.
>>78161333
>Reading while moving
carsick city
Any tips for hand lettering and not getting ink blots at the end of them?
http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/135103310180
getting those feelings on
hooh boy
im getting slow at this
>>78162517
SHE IS BACK!
>>78162495
i dont suppose 'tablet' would be a satisfactory answer..
>>78161863
yeah that's pretty much how it works
>>78162517
man how many times have i not realized how much i had a heart-on for a girl until she or i moved away...
Working on character designs presently. I'm quite new to this, so it's somewhat slow going, but I'm having plenty of fun anyway. Might share some more, should anyone be interested to see.
>>78163034
oh yeah, the famous wizard cubeclops. he's just the best guy around. but can anyone find the key to his heart?
Finished this page!
>>78163118
>your
>your (again)
>uncolored background people
>>78163247
Oh yeah, the grammar mistakes, I'll fix that right now.
The uncolored background people was a stylistic choice though
Has anyone here actually made it to a professional level? I'm asking because I feel like a webcomic with a strong readership would look pretty good on a Darkhorse of Vertigo resume
>>78163696
That's my goal. I expect it to take several years at a minimum, if it ever even happens.
>>78163696
>professional level
no, Nobody in this thread did.
If we did, We will not be in this thread.
>>78163282
stylistic choice my ass - it looks like you aren't even trying. if you're trying to create a shift between fore/middle ground then it would be helpful to lighten the value of the lines as you recede into the background. the white doesn't work here because its a lighter value than the background and the outlines are pushed to the foreground because they're solid black. at least lay down some light value instead of none so it doesn't read as empty space. there needs to be some readable hierarchy in terms of back/middle/fore ground.
will making webcomics get me some phat nerd pussy?
>>78163696
I'm getting extremely close
>>78163904
I will keep that in mind anon.
>>78163921
Only if you pander in the right way.
>>78159877
I do a ton of cons every year.
Original content does not sell. At all.
I was bored.
So, I draw LP (Lovely posion) with her parents.
>>78163921
You know, that made me think of a pretty good question, has anyone tried working on a comic or project with a significant other? or met someone through a project?
>>78163999
My girlfriend and I started dating because we both made comics, and we started having jam sessions to get our pages done together.
>>78164037
>>78163999
>Tfw no girlfriend
>No friends
>Nobody is interest in comics except this thread
Goddamn it.
>>78163964
If you get a big enough fanbase it does, but that's top 2% of webcomics, maybe just top 1%.
>>78163927
do you seriously think you're almost at a professional level? you make me wonder if you're trolling half the time.
>>78163964
Anime cons or comic festivals? Original shit sells like garbage at anime cons, but you get more people picking up your original stuff at festivals at least in my experience.
>>78163696
I've done interiors and page tests for Boom, so depending on what you want to consider "professional", yeah.
>>78164156
Well yeah this is definitely true. Festivals and coffee/tea shops are much better for original comics and zines.
>>78163099
Only the fairest for my sweet prince.
That one's more a crab-ish cubeclops priest, though. He doesn't take much offense, though. Likely not bright enough to feel offended either way.
And this thing is something different entirely, since I don't have many drawings of the crab-cube-clops at present.
>>78164182
Abaddon?
>>78163696
it looks good on a cartoon network resume
>>78163974
this is adorable somehow
did you mean poison? because i think posion is a cute name too
>>78163999
i know i always assume partners are couples. in the case of johnny wander I was right! and that was the one I was least sure of
>>78164080
hey guy in the same boat, i didnt notice you there in the same boat as me. mustve been sitting in the back of the same boat as i'm in. let's be friends.
>>78164385
subtly good fingershapes. just the right curves.
>>78164422
Nah.
>>78160581
Thanks!
>>78163999
My co-writer wrong fanfiction for my comic. Then he started writing on it. Now we live together.
>>78163696
>a webcomic with a strong readership
that doesn't equate to skill
Look at the assholes who do QC, SYAC, MSPA, etc
