Now that the show's been out for a while, let's have a discussion about Daredevil. Which adaptation is superior: The Netflix show, or the movie?
They both have their strengths and weaknesses, but I feel like the easiest, non-controversial way to break it down is quality (film) vs quantity (TV show). Would you agree with that, and if so, what's the optimal balance for a comic adaptation? Would we be better off with shorter miniseries?
Ben Affleck will tell you to forget about the movie and watch Batman V Superman, coming soon to a theater near you.
>>78069315
Is this really acceptable? Actors BETRAYING Marvel and going to work for DC?
The Director's Cut of the movie is superior to the TV show. The movie gets Matt's character better (his violent nature, his contradictory relationship with his father and being a lawman/vigilante, the self-sabotaging lifestyle, the strain his night time activities have on him, the way his senses are depicted), especially his origin and dynamic with Foggy. The movie feels like proper adaptation of the comics, the show is like a crime drama that on the side happens to attempt to be comic bookey in the vaguest sense of the word. The movie's largest issue is that it attempts to cram in Elektra, Fisk, Matt's origin AND antagonism of Bullseye, all in one movie, when it clearly has no time to develop them all. As a direct result, it's pretty goofy at places. That said, the movie does a better Fisk and his downfall.
The TV show suffers from stretching the story too much which led to padding and filler to most of the episodes because X, Y and Z could not happen . Ben Urich also gets to do some properly investigating that leads to something in the movie, unlike in the show where his time is spent mostly to hold Karen's hand, MUH SICK WIFE and getting fridged so Karen could have character development and cry some more. The show also has a bad habit of introducing characters and barely developing them before they've already being written out. See: Gao who is there just to look mysterious and spout exposition in the second half of the movie, the Hand guy, Night Nurse who just disappears without explanation until to pop in again for five minutes before going away again, Owsley's just a bitchy old guy at meetings who doesn't really do much of anything and then dies like a bitch, etc.
>>78069428
>Actors BETRAYING Marvel
>BETRAYING
No one is betraying no one, Marvel is a company, and Ben Affleck is an actor, this is just a business.
There is literally nothing about the movie that is in any way better than the show. Not the writing and certainly not the casting. I don't care what anyone says, MDC was a horrible casting choice for Kingpin. If you defend this and hate on the series version of Wilson Fisk, you don't know shit about the character. That being said, MDC is still the best actor in the movie. There isn't any problem with the pacing in the series, people just can't grasp that it was never supposed to be anything more than a detailed origin story for Matt Murdock and Wilson Fisk, along with building their world in the MCU and leave the door wide open for anything to happen in the future if the shows continue. It did exactly what it was supposed to do and earned itself a second season basically co-starring the Punisher. The first Netflix MCU series is a drawn out origin story establishing an entire world of possibilities, just like the first MCU movie was.
>>78069590
>people just can't grasp that it was never supposed to be anything more than a detailed origin story for Matt Murdock and Wilson Fisk
That does not excuse poor pacing with blatant filler to stretch it into thirteen episodes. Especially in a Netflix show you have no excuse to have characters constantly spit out already well established plot points in superfluous, repetitive, drawn out conversations that add nothing to the ongoing plot, especially when the Stick episode was so tightly plotted out compared to every other episode. The show had maybe eight episodes worth of actual plot stretched out to thirteen.
>>78069868
It wasn't poor pacing, it was intentional and worked with the goal. You probably hated Breaking Bad, too. The Wire?
>>78070068
>it was intentional shitty on purpose you guys!
It's just bad writing. The Wire was able to play the long game and not make entire scenes feel entirely superfluous filler. And while Breaking Bad is entirely overrated and pretty dull in retrospect, it at least managed to string you along with good cliffhangers and make the plot feel like it was moving forwards without sitting on its ass because the plot point D could not happen until episode 9.
>>78070120
It wasn't shitty, you just can't grasp the intentions. I already said this.
>>78069449
Some of those things were clearly meant to sow seeds. Even if they didn't think they would get more seasons, they knew they would have the Defenders, and it's a shared world. Madame Gao, for instance, was obviously meant to set up some Iron Fist shit.
