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MAIN TOPIC: Part 6 planning. Stand Suggestions are OPEN. Go nuts

READ THESE LINKS BEFORE CONTRIBUTING YOUR AUTISM
(ALSO, try not to suggest 1:1 copies of characters and events in JJBA)

>Canon Stand Info for the Ignorant and Forgetful
http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Stand
http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Stands

>Plot summaries and character list
http://pastebin.com/vbD28iMx (haha fuck it this is never getting updated)

>Abilities and Stands
http://pastebin.com/vYTvZPFP
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14_R9UFLN28p0gcpJWiXHztmrhdSswFbsi9H8uhnFrIs/edit

>Every part, in order
1 - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IdBYK9zXpJrDc4vAIHnRLmZpPiKyxiIkj25oOTaaeF0
2 - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KA0-Y_HnU_m6V5pwZ7fEtqGMnwm43NrshzANTcCxr34
3 - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hDbP7BA0XBP3_3GW0uphroYjQdcW1EW5b37w-r_lsaI
4 - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zn-D4aD-cBBfpBtfTLmVM_D9C1cGPYgDYRl_CCGbnsw
5 - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UNm7KLXgWF0LMxCCq3VZ3O_VJ8vEqj7d22RjnDqVIEg/edit?usp=sharing
6 - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l9034tpMm4EdF1NGzisA2bCXBDvUbx_vTR69hXjp_iY/edit?usp=sharing
7 - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SDhmnLrv5dtVAZx2ewx1JKTsZVoXkE8LRw-8rK2gyhQ/edit?usp=sharing
8 - https://docs.google.com/document/d/10wx78PDHPNMygoTbFvihjTjPF-DwP1Ced8XKT3YNzUQ/edit?usp=sharing

Sidestories - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JKNelCoRNbFcSjF8vwha4zaIimnTpMBDTq-gj_GP930

>Phantom Scare: Chapter 1
http://pastebin.com/bsmui6f7
>/Co/Co/ Comic
http://imgur.com/a/Un5xq

>Images
http://ccba.booru.org/

>Fighting Game
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0lqXHlZXEFTaFppZV96ejU5b2s&usp=sharing

>Voice Impressions
http://pastebin.com/DcZUTVx1

>/Co/Co/ playlist:「THE SHOW MUST GO ON」
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLWEiXuZ9FOaYfU_0hIoo6qadB1yEO_Km
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So anyway, like I was saying, right after Suzie backs off because of Gameboy looking in on their cell (entire "fight" TBA), Dora goes off to look at the facilities and begin formulating an escape plan.

Unbeknownst to her, she's leaving a trail of red footprints behind her which Suzie, who doesn't notice the footprints, is compelled to follow.
Suzie gives commentary/exposition on the various places in the jail Dora goes to look at.
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We need to keep it down to 30 or less stands. Having a story helps with that.

We need a list of character suggestions for he part too, and their purpose. From what I can remember.
>Dora (protag. Has a stand)
>Warden (main villain. Has a stand)
>Suzie (brojo. Has a stand)
>Giffany (brojo. Has a stand)
>Penny (brojo. Has a stand)
>Wong (first villain. Has a stand?)
>Clarissa's dad (starter foe. Has a stand?)
>Dinosaur Dan (bartering chip. Does he even need a stand?)
>Robert "Bobby" Hill (Penny supervisor)
>Callie Briggs (Penny supervisor)
>Gordon? (Warden in disguise? Are we using him?)
>Mrs. Frizzle (starter villain. Superjail Guard. has a stand?)
>Gameboy (villain. Superjail guard. Has a stand.)
>Gaz? (villain. Superjail guard? Has a stand? Are we even still using her?)
>Breach (high security inmate villain? Has a stand?)
>Plankton (villain? has a stand.)
>Summer Smith? (???)
>Toki? (???)
>Pickles? (???)
>Wasp? (???)
>Joy? (???)
>Robo-Dale (villain. No stand)
>Vicky (high security inmate villain. Has a stand.)
>Woody Woodpecker? (villain?)

Those are the ones I can think of right now. That's 19 stands already not counting Dan. I guess a few will be fought in PI. There's 9 in the first part I believe?

We have 11 more stands until it reaches it's maximum.
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>>84170702
I think that the reveal shot of the trail of footprints would be a good place to <=TO BE CONTINUED= on. So we could have Suzie showing her around then, and at the start of the next mini-arc, it's the next morning and Suzie's showing her around some more?
I agree that Dora getting her Stand within her first day is too fast for what we're going for, so...
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>>84170762
And of course, we still have to decide if Daffy is siring any other kids or not.
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>>84170762
Frizzle's stand was the bus, as I recall. Also you forgot Dredd. Three years in the cubes.
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>>84170762
>30 or less Stands
Nah, man. We don't need to be constrained EXACTLY to JoJo part 6's limits, that's just silly. It feels way too limiting.
Obviously we're not going to go all fucking out like we did with part 5, but such strict limits aren't going to help the story at all.
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>>84170762
>>Robert "Bobby" Hill (Penny supervisor)
>>Callie Briggs (Penny supervisor)
Wrong on both accounts.
Neither of those characters are affiliated with Interpol in this.

Callie Briggs has only been suggested for this part as a former WB executive who took the fall for a lot of shit that happened.

Bobby is just a therapist.

Neither are solidly in the part yet.

Wong has a stand, Dan has a stand.

Penny's exact role in this part is still being reworked.
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>>84170786
Sure.

I figure the opening is the ride to jail. That's the narration, the bus ride, and meeting Suzie.

Then there's "Welcome to jail!" which is what the next bit would be involving the tour, introducing characters, establishing the prison food chain, and maybe the fight with Clarissa's dad.
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>>84170827
I feel like Penny should be a very minor presence in act 1, and a bigger one in acts 2 and 3, as she'd get a couple of stories to herself as the lone one outside Superjail. Her biggest moment would probably be fighting her way in from the outside when Superjail starts to project out into reality.
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>>84170805
Well, he doesn't have a stand. But of course. He's Warden's lapdog.

I'm just trying to keep track so that it doesn't become too heavily packed.

>>84170825
Do you WANT another chaotic disaster like part 5?

>>84170827
Penny talks to both of them over her wristwatch. That was suggested last thread. They are her "supervisors" and if I recall are in Interpol.

Penny is a spy sent to infiltrate the prison. Callie is her boss who works with the heads of Interpol and is a cousin of Tom, and Bobby is her psychological counselor. That was the suggestion I read.

We are NOT having Callie participate in stand games though if that's what you're suggesting. Just because she was in one picture doesn't mean she should be in PI. We're ditching waifus as a main topic.
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>>84170899
>Do you WANT another chaotic disaster like part 5?
Don't be an asshole.
Part 5 was overpacked because of the insistence on packing in multiple villains per arc and giving them no breathing room/proper place in the story, not because there were too many Stand users period. We should have as many Stand users as we need for the story arcs to work.
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>>84170762
I'm not sure if Wong should have a Stand since he is a pillarmen, and we haven't decided his [Mode] yet. And according to wiki, 95% of the Rock Humans have Stands, though isn't necessary that he reveals his Stand
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>>84170966
It's been suggested that we try and keep a limit on stands though.

We don't want a major influx of suggestions for part 6 and have to put them all in.
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>>84170980
Cool.

Maybe he is the rare Pillarman with a Stand. Thatd be what makes Yzma want him as an assistant in the first place.

She fires him when she finds out he isn't too smartical. And gets Kronk shortly after
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>>84170879
In the early parts of part 6 she needs to visit Dora in jail, offer her a deal, and give her a communicator of some kind.

Penny could have some kind of arc of her own rooting out corruption in Strickland.

>>84170899
There was never anything about Callie being Interpol before last thread. Before then all talk about her is that she was serving time because the crimes of the WB got dumped on her to appease the human legal system.

We could make that a farce and have her be the undercover agent.

Penny was NEVER supposed to be the spy. That got shot down repeatedly and I will keep to my guns on that. She's an agent trying to get an "in" at the jail. She has to make deals, but she has to stay on the outside to have any power in the story.

If anything, Penny's investigations into the jail are a little like her going rouge because there's probably an order from someone in her ranks who is corrupt and on the Warden's side.

I hate the idea of Callie and Tom being related. That adds nothing to the story aside from an excess detail that has no relevancy to any of the major or minor characters.
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>>84171009
Yeah. And we can do that by making sure that we only put in ones we have a place for, not by
>>84170980
I'm thinking he should, since he's in control of a gang of Stand users. Johnny was able to pretty much dominate the Pillar Men in part 2 despite his mediocre Stand and lack of training.
I liked the Xuéwèi Mode suggestion from last thread.
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>>84171102
>smartical
That gives me the perfect name for his stand, and it also somewhat justifies his mouth-hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoZgZT4DGSY
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>>84170980
Maybe he's a hybrid?
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>>84170899
>Dredd not having a stand
But the dude is the Warden's right hand man. It doesn't make sense for him not to have a stand if he's so important in a prison meant for people with stands.
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>>84171102
I think he developed his stand long after his apprenticeship under Yzma.

The pillarmen in our part 2 has no knowledge of stands.
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>>84170762
I think what's more important than setting a hard limit of Stand Users is sorting them into each part of the story.

Right now we're in a bad habit of showing any Stand that's even remotely interesting into PI, which guts the first section into shit.

I agree with characters like Joy and Giffany being put in PI because they're actual psychopaths, but characters like Summer and honestly even Gaz should not be put at PI.

Right now the idea is that there's this whole arc built around hyping up Wong and Dora's rivalry before the big anticlimax at the prison break that ends with the Warden showing up.

Then we get PI, where you throw in all the crazies, and finally the riot section, which is a mix of the first two while the Warden's crew tries to clean up house.
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When will the gang fights be brought up?

In the original story, they had to fight groups of stand users who had created gangs inside the prison.

I really think that's a big part of it we can't lose. If I remember right we had a Redheaded gang, a Princess gang, a Goth gang, a Furry gang, and a Robot gang I think?

I do think this needs to remain in the new part 6, just to give it it's own "gauntlet/battle royale" sorta flair. It looks pretty lacking on stands, characters, and fights as it is.

I think we're ditching the waifu concept? That's sad, but I guess it can't be helped. I guess the gangs will be mixed members then now, except for maybe the Princess gang unless it's just called "royals" or something.

I'd say it should happen inside PI. i don't like the idea of a couple of 1 on 1 fights. There needs to be action and stuff. Dora fighting a giant group of stand wielding cat girls and the like.

I do think there should be a few regular prison fights though. Maybe a few prison riots happen and some of the inmates are revealed to have stands? I just want more action than there seems to be so far. I want FIGHTS and BLOODSHED. Not some lame drama like part 3.
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>>84171550
I guess Summer could be one of the ones who gets recruited as an ally and then taken out during the escape. They could fight her in the visit-the-gym episode?
Gaz is a guard now, so if she's in at all, she should be in Pure Imagination.
If we want a "mundane" prisoner to go in the main jail, how about Pete of Mickey Mouse fame? Not sure what his Stand power should be, but it should look like his Steamboat Willie design as a bear instead of a cat.
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>>84171659
Fuck no. FUCK no. We did gang fights in part 5 and it was a mess. Nobody got characterisation and there was no room to breathe. It was a miracle that the main cast got arcs as good as they did.
No fucking gang fights. We max out at THREE enemies at once, no more, and we should aim to not have any of those unless it's ABSOLUTELY necessary.
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>>84171659
No, that's been scrapped. We did gangs in part 5, and you know what happened? Everyone thought it was just a good idea, but then no one wanted to write the fights, so then it all got dumped on one anon to do everything. We're not doing gangs again.

There is only ONE prison gang in part 6.
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>>84171659
There were more gangs than that I think? But I can't remember.

The Redhead gang had
>Summer
>Kim Possible
>Candace Flynn
in it though. I guess Vicky now that she's a prisoner rather than a guard. Maybe two more members who are guys?

I believe our Princess gang had Elsa, Rapunzel, and Princess Bubblegum in it.

I don't know what the others had except for Callie and the girl from Prequel in the Furry gang. Maybe Gumball should be a member now that the prison is now more mixed than female exclusive.

I dunno about robots. XJ-9?
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>Stand Master: Mordecai
>Stand: 「LEVIATHAN」
>Appearance: A lanky eel like humanoid with one gilded arm. The user is also given a rather grungy gauntlet appearing to be made out of wreckage
>Ability: 「LEVIATHAN」's hands bear the ability to expand the space within whatever they delve into, creating a 「hammerspace」 within which objects can be stored. The user's gauntlet, 「White Whale」, creates spaces that collapse upon being filled and directly fuse the object into the host. Medicines can be directly introduced to needed areas, foods directly inserted into the stomach, etc. The Stand's hand, 「Holy Grail」, is capable of maintaining a pocket for an indeterminate amount of time and the objects placed within are placed into 「stasis」 such that the time acting upon them whilst in the hammerspace is equal to zero.

>Stand Master: Rigby
>Stand: 「ABRASIVE」(Ratatat)
>Appearance: A large psuedo-mechanical insect that rides atop the user's upper back akin to a knapsack
>Ability: 「ABRASIVE」 is a Stand that bears no inherent offensive ability on its own merits but allows the user to take command of all 「Dust Mites」 within roughly 100 feet and convert instances of 「dead skin」 and 「dust」 directly into the insects. From here, the user can either utilize them as a workforce or can convert them into living flesh to heal wounds or create appendages. The Stand also shows traces of slight sapience.

The two of them were members of the same drug ring as Dora and ended up busted after Swiper sold out their operation to the feds.
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>>84171706
>>84171730
I think it's a good idea actually. It'd be something to make part 6 more distinct. Plus, if done right, it could definitely work.

It's a prison arc too. Prisons are full of gangs. How can you have something set in prison without them? And with PI, it's only natural that groups of stand using girls with similar interests would team up to take on other enemies. Warden can't really force others to kill inside, only encourage. There's nothing stopping them from teaming up. And a group of enemies will be a lot tougher, not to mention a more interesting fight to write. Dora has her own gang as well too, with Giffany, Suzie, Gaz, and Penny, though I actually kinda prefer Xero. Toki and Pickles might join in too.

Whatever the case, I do think it's a good idea and would be neat if written well enough. Part 6 is pretty boring already. Gang fights would definitely give it more of an edge. Actually, shouldn't Wong have a gang of his own to fight the protags with?

Quit being so pessimistic. It's a nice idea.
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>>84171906
I dunno, man. I just can't see what they'd add. There'd be no reason to fight if Dora knows them, and why wouldn't they be brought in on the same bus as she was?
Sell me on their story role.
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>>84171906
I like this. I like this a lot.

They'd need fights though, since they have stands. Where could they be put? PI?
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>>84171933
Gang fights were part 5's thing. 6 should be more distinct. I like the idea of having a breakout story that involves the protags exploring the prison and accidentally making things worse myself.
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>>84171933
Did you help at all with the writing of the fights in part 5?
Maybe - MAYBE - we'll do a couple of team up fights inside Superjail. But gang fights wouldn't give it its "own flavor"; it'd feel like a retread of part 5.
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>>84171972
Well, I still want them. Part 5 gang fights weren't that interesting. I just feel they'd be better in 6, and would probably improve the part as well. I just don't like boring one on one fights being a main thing. Feels boring.
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>>84171933
>It's a nice idea.
Then write it yourself.

I'm going to continue with what we've already set up with there being only ONE gang, and there's only ONE gang for a damn good reason. Wong fucking killed all the others and didn't get caught doing it.

And we don't even see PI until we're already like 1/3rd of the way into the part.
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>>84171906
Save these two for another part, be it 7 or 8 (yeah both have their own comic/webcomic exclusivity thing going on but there are some allowances).

>>84171933
Wong's going to have a gang, but the whole "no gang fights" was thrown out a while ago. It just straight up hurt Part 5 as a whole, and while it could be done right we're having a hard time filling up the cast list without the gang numbers.

I do agree though, right now this Part is a bit lacking. Maybe once PI is fleshed out more we'll have a better idea on where this Part stands, but right now it's a cool idea with barebones execution.
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>>84172007
Fuck off.
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>>84172016
But that's boring. At least give it a gauntlet style of fights like >>84172017

I want more fights than we've seen so far. More characters. More stands. I just don't think it's interesting at all like this. There definitely is a massive lack of action so far.

This is Jojo and crazy battles are the norm. There's only a couple so far here, and they barely qualify as actual fights. It's just not Jojo without actual insane stand battles.
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>>84171950

From a story perspective, they'd be our exposition into the drug ring and the sheer collapse of it shorty after the discovery of the jawbreaker caches and the resulting betrayal after. Shit started going south and fast with multiple high ranking members getting shut down and the two of them said 'fuck it,' took the goods and ran before getting arrested after leaving a trail of coke fueled anarchy on the way to the border.

>>84171953

Their Stands don't have much inherent danger to them so they could work in Belle Reve.
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>>84172017
>I do agree though, right now this Part is a bit lacking.
Well, that's what hapens when you have to rebuild it completely from scratch. I think once we can get a decent feel for the breakout planning, it'll slip into groove.
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>>84172082
Dude, we just started. Patience, grasshopper, shoehorning gangs isn't going to solve anything.

That said, the CUHRAZY needs to ramp up in PI. Think Dr. Suess after a truckload of acid and murder porn. The place is a madman's paradise, and that's where all the batshit insane fights should be.
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>>84172082
Fuck gauntlets. FUCK EM.

I had to do over 70% of all of part 5's writing on my own because everyone else was too intimidated by gang fights, teamwork battles, and consecutive fights. Fuck gauntlets.

I refuse to let part 6 turn into another situation where people are going to be less likely to contribute.
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>>84172172
How many fights are there in PI?

The number of stand fights increases from the previous part. How many stands were in part 5? 6 should probably be double that amount. Or at least the number of fights.
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>>84171953
>>84171950

Do they have to be fights? We could use some Brojos after all.
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>>84172270
There are more people excited for the project now, so more people likely to contriute. We might as well keep suggesting things and see if they stick. The number of stands shouldn't matter, what matters is if and how they work in the plot.

There is a lack of stands so far, so we need as many as we can get. If it leads to a gauntlet or even gang battles, so be it. As long as they work, there's nothing really to be done. PI is just going to be a gauntlet, isn't it? It's a battle royale every man for himself fights to the death. Dora will have to cleave her way through a great many opponents to get to Warden.
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>>84172370
>there's nothing really to be done
You better be prepared to write it yourself then.
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>>84172370
It doesn't HAVE to be like that though. We can have a gauntlet scene or two, but we can also have scenes of the protags exploring the insanity that is PI. We can have Interpol shenaniganry that leads to Warden saying "Fuck it" and starting to expand PI into the real world. We can have Dora grow into a hero. Saying "It has to be just fights!" is lazy and unimaginative.
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>>84172463
What Interpol shenanigans? We're basically cutting 90% of them from the plot to give screen time to Dora.

All we have is a few spies sent into Superjail and that's it. No other means of communication with Interpol. And even then our spies will have extremely minor roles. We're probably cutting Penny's part, and possibly Xero's.

Basically there's barely any interaction from Interpol other than the basic knowledge that "they're there" but nothing much beyond that. The thread didn't want them being too big of a presence.
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>>84172546
The point was we can have things other than fights, I don't care about Interpol either way. I just don't want this to be a slog like 5 because everyone wants MORE FIGHTS AND MORE CRAZY but doesn't want to actually write them.
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>>84172546
You seem to think that the majority of part 6 which was still under the moniker of "waifu ocean" is still in effect.

We tossed out pretty much everything and are rebuilding from the ground up with the basic plot out line of

>Dora goes to jail
>Jail shit happens
>Dora gets sucked in PI
>???
>Final showdown

Everything is up for grabs right now.
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>>84172307
I dunno about having two Brojos from the same series, and having them join with no conflict. It just doesn't feel like they'll add anything in that sense beyond being there as allies in fights.
Plus, Dora's sense of isolation is kind of important. We need her to feel like she's more or less alone, other than Suzy, who tried to capture her when they first met; building status and gaining allies is important, and would be less so if she has Mordecai and Rigby on her team from the start.
That said, if you can work out somewhere else for them, I think they'd fit fine. They just need a proper role.
>>84172370
You're a douchecanoe and I have no desire for you to contribute further.
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>>84170702
>>84160790
Still need to expand the Dora and Suzie encounter.

>Dora leaves to look around
>Unbeknownst to her, she's leaving a trail of red footprints behind her which Suzie, who doesn't notice the footprints, is compelled to follow

>While going around the prison, Dora ends up in the cafeteria
>She notices both male and female prisoners
>Suzie is still following her and cuts in
>"Ah see you 'ave noticed this is a, how you say, co-ed institution. Ze Warden felt he should not discriminate when it comes to ze gender. But no need to worry about zat, zay keep a close eye on everything.
>shot of Suzie's face which is out of focus with Dredd seen behind her shoulder at an elevation, sharply in focus
>Dora notices one table looking more serious than the others with an old man sitting at the head of it surrounded by tough looking thugs

OK, who are Wong's guys? Dai Lung (Courage the Cowardly Dog) is probably one of them, and the one who sends Dora to go talk to "daddy".
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>>84172089
How relevant is the smuggling ring to the story, though? Like, people keep coming up with stuff for it, but I'm not sure how much it would add. The idea of Carmen Sandiego being her mom seems more promising, if we want to pursue Dora's backstory - showing how she got into "the life" and unpacking some of her motivations. If we use Woody, that could be part of pacifying him - Dora uses the example of her own shitty parent.
Hell, I'd originally thought that Dora would have been on a solo operation.
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>>84172706
i really do think they have potential. We're cutting out every brojo except for Suzy, so Dora needs more friends.

Maybe they reunite later on instead of directly at the start? maybe in PI? Of course, there really isn't any story for before PI. Everything discussed was just hypothetical and not even fully done and I'm not sure how much of it we're actually doing.

6 is just becoming a pain to write because nobody seems to be able to decide on anything. I don't want to suggest literally everything be thrown out, but nothing is sticking so far. We can't even determine how big we want part 6 to actually be.
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>>84172822
Me-Mow (Adventure Time) could be the one who tricks her into going into pedodad's cell.
I feel like if it's a female character who tricks her, it comes off as a bitchy move by a complete asshole; if it's a guy, it comes off as an act of pure evil, despite it being the same thing. Funny how that works, uhh.
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>>84172830
>Of course, there really isn't any story for before PI.
Before PI is the only thing there's story for, man.
I get that we need more Brojos. I agree. But I really don't think that having them already know Dora is a great idea.
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>>84172899
There is a surprising lack of AT characters.
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>>84172017
I thought they were suggested for part 8 as not!Oingo and not!Boingo not!brothers. And the only comic/webcomic restriction was lifted a while ago.

>>84172602
you forgot the end:
>shit blows up, everyone is presumed dead
>public outrage gets Nobody elected
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>>84172899
Remember that whoever tells her to go there gets a tray to the face later.

Then I guess they'd try to retaliate against Dora before collapsing in pain caused by Wong's [Death Grips] mark on them so they don't attract anymore attention from the guards that are already coming.
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>>84173067
Yeah, that's my thought. Me-Mow tells her to go in there, and later gets the shit kicked out of her by Dora, who awakens her Stand in the process. She should probably have a Stand, but not an attention grabbing one.
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>>84173138
He's too small though.

That aside, would he be the one who kills Dan before Wong can get the fruit secrets out of him?
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>>84172822
>Suzie notices Dora eyeing that table
>"Ah zee you 'ave noticed ze 'top dog' prisoner. Zat is Daolon Wong. There used to be many gangs in zis prison, until he came here. Now there is only his gang, ze prison staff, any anyone who gets caught in between. You should keep your distance from-"
>Dora is already walking over to Wong's table before Suzie even finished
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>>84172829

The ring and their distributions could end up playing a major role into the spread of abilities to the part 7 and 8 characters, after all.

>>84172949
>>84172706

We could always use them for a shenanigan fight. Like say they're still paranoid that the cartel's out looking for them and in walks Dora, someone they knew was too good to just get busted. That and given their Stands they could make for indispensable allies for the escape attempt section.
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>>84173170
Me-mow got much bigger in her second appearance.

And I think Wong killing Dan and draining him for a power-up right before The Warden beats him almost effortlessly is better, but that's for later.
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>>84173170
Me-Mow's tiny in her first appearance, but human-sized in her second. Also, you know, we've had Jerry and Taffy before.
My idea for Dan is that he's Retired by Dora since he's shooting up the place. Wong tries to get to him, but the prison staff drag him off before he can.
Then I guess he shows up dead in Pure Imagination.
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>>84173216
Ehhn. I'm just not feeling it. Sorry.
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Pegleg Pete
Stand: [SMOKESTACK LIGHTNING]
>Appearance: A black and white, rubberhose anthropomorphic bear, dressed like Pete in Steamboat Willie and smoking a cigar
>Ability: When [SMOKESTACK LIGHTNING] lights a cigar, the top of the area that it's in will be afflicted with a burning heat. As the cigar is smoked down to a stub, the heat wave will move down from the top of the room to the bottom.
I dunno. Not a huge fan, but I wanted something to play on his cigar habit and the fact that he was a steamboat captain in his most famous appearance.
I think he's got potential as a character, but if anyone has a better idea for his Stand, speak and be heard.
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>>84172899
What does [Little Girls] even do?
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>>84171450
He uses a specific type of melody that works off of his seriousness.

It's comedic because of how serious he is.
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>>84172007
Fuck you
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>>84173448

Ah well, worth a shot. Here's hoping I can at least still keep that concept for Rocko and GIRLS relevant then.
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>>84172089
That idea sucks.

The drug ring was a real life cartel. We keep it ambiguous because that was their only shipment of jawbreakers, and because thecartel isn't /co/ styled. It sets up Dora as being a legit criminal. Her being Carmen Sandiegos daughter adds to this.

Having the regular show guys ruins it.
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>>84173533
There's an idea here: >>84121098
I like the smoke one. Gives off the right kind of vibe but isn't explicit.
>>84166090
>Squidward is looking over at Toph and Dexter. Plucky encourages him to go and speak to them.
>He nervously approaches. Toph detects him, but doesn't realise it's him (his de-handsomizing threw off his body rhythms) until he speaks.
>"Ah... hey, guys." Toph jumps, then scowls. "Did you hear something, Dexter? I thought I heard a traitorous scumbag, but it must've just been the wind."
>"Toph, I -" She shoves him away. "Zip it. I don't care."
>Dexter steps in. "Leesten, Toph. He deed not mean for any of us to get hurt, and een the tower, he fought the most fiercely of all of us."
>"You think I care? He was working for them from the beginning. He brought all that shit down on our heads. He... he killed me, Dexter. If he hadn't brought those ice pops in, I wouldn't be fucking dead right now."
>Toph's visibly upset, more than is characteristic for her. Dexter starts talking - "Please, Toph, he -" but Squidward cuts him off. "No, Dexter. It's okay."
>He turns to Toph, who has her back to him. He takes a deep breath. "I messed up. I made a really, really stupid decision, and it's gonna stick with me forever. You, Dexter, Rolf... I cared about you, and if I hadn't been such an idiot, you might still be alive right now. You wouldn't have had to give your lives for no reason. I understand that you can't forgive me, but... I'm sorry. I really am."
>Toph doesn't respond. Dexter looks sad, and Squidward slumps and begins to walk away, but then...
>"No reason. Heh."
>"Squiddy. We took down the devil himself. If there's anything that there's "no reason" to die for, that's sure as hell not it."
>She turns around with a sad smile. "C'mon, man. Let's go talk to the others. Urban Rangers never look back, huh?"
>Squidward is in tears of happy relief. The three of them walk over to join Plucky, Taffy and Cartman, who are speaking to Hank, Johnny and Courage.
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>>84173667
>Here's hoping I can at least still keep that concept for Rocko and GIRLS relevant then.
I'm really sorry, but that one was also one I was going to dispute. Mostly because we had both a hippo Stand and a Stand that uses others' genetic material back in part 5, in the same part, no less.
I like your Stand concepts - you should keep 'em coming - I just feel like that one's a little redundant. Don't take it as an attack on your work, though.
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>>84172830
>>84172949
>>84173024


I fucking hate the Regular show guys in this part. Having Doras past shoehorned in just makes problems with the current problems. Also the bird and raccoon don't do shit.

They're slice of life characters who go inch deep in characterisation. If you have them as they are on the show, they're useless. Have them changed, and nothing of value is gained. Might as well have Bluster Kong or some shit.
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>>84173704
I think that idea might be based on that Australian pedo awareness cartoon where some weird ocean is used as a metaphor/visual representation of rape.

So Dora can't walk straight, or see, but she's still leaving footprints, by some stroke of luck, Clarissa's dad steps on one of them and begins following Dora's path until she bumps into him and beat the shit out of him.

Also, nice job with the continued follow up of the courthouse.
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>>84173782
Yeah, I like that. She doesn't know where she's going, and he's going to take advantage of that, but then he steps on the footprint and he's suddenly just as lost as she is.
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>>84173729
small correction: hippo Stand USER (also lawyer and porn actor).
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>>84173540
But melody doesn't let you see stands so that still doesn't make any sense. Just give the man a stand or don't make him Warden's number two. I'd prefer the former, but whatever works for the project.
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>>84173886
Goodvibes' Stand, though. And it was in the same arc as Tech Coyote's cell-using Stand.
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>>84174067
ah shit, I forgot about Goodvibes, and I was wondering which was the one that used genetic material
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>>84173729

Gotcha.
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>>84173851
Well, he wouldn't be lost since he can see through the smoke made by his stand, but he would be forced to follow the same drunken path that Dora is unknowingly making.
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I know there was talk of ex-celebrities appearing in the part. Or ex-WB executives.

Maybe Benton Tarantella from Courage and his partner? They were incarcerated. They could be pretending to do a shoot on the prison. Really they're just inmates who want to kill the others inside.

Benton would be the only one with a stand though. If we use either of them.
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>>84174656
We're kind of overloaded on Courage characters, especially if we use Dai Lung.
We already cut LeQuack from part 5, despite having the perfect Stand name for him.
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>>84174741
Then maybe Bernie Bernstein from the Powerpuff Girls? Or Control Freak from Teen Titans?

Though I feel like that might be pushing the "evil director" thing a bit too far. What I was going for was a dead guy who was still serving time despite being dead.

Not even death can keep you from serving time under the Warden's watch. There's probably an entire section of the prison meant for corpses reanimated by the Warden so he can keep watching them suffer until their sentence is over.
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>>84174905
That's kind of Dinosaur Dan's thing.

He's been serving a life sentence for the past 50,000 years at least (1 million is just too far back to go). He just hasn't died yet.
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>>84174905
Breah is already ombie-like, and I guess we're using her? Nobody has said anything to the contrary.

If you want an actual zombie though, maybe Abercadaver? Though I feel like there's better "evil undead villains" out there, I can't think of many at the moment. I do feel like there was some other evil zombie villain who was sealed away inside a coffin, but I can't think of who.

Anyway, I was just suggesting him as a possibility. His stand probably mummifies people with ribbons or something. Suzie finds him attractive.

Or we could use Phantasma here instead of in part 7. Suzie's curious attraction would remain.

>>84175175
I think he's talking about an actual dead person revived by the Warden. Dan's longevity is because he's a Scopeman. Warden might not know this though, and may be attempting to find the secret of it maybe?
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>>84175223
Does The Warden even know Dan is down there?
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>>84175271
The employees are still digging through the lower prisons, and haven't reached Dan's cell yet
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>>84175223
Forgot pic

>>84175271
I'm not sure? I assumed he did, he built the prison on top of it after all. He probably learned about Dan at some point, but probably never cared much for him outside of the mystery of how he's been down there for centuries.

Warden may have even interacted with him before. Assuming this isn't his first go around with killing games, maybe he forced Dan to participate once, and Dan survived the whole thing and won his freedom? Warden wouldn't let him leave though, just live.

Could be a good side story. I don't know.
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>>84175307
He could've at least detected his presence through a weird highly advanced security system that can read several miles underground.

I do think Warden knew about him though. He is surprised but not shocked that there's a centuries old caveman beneath the prison.
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>>84175307
>>84175314
>>84175350
Let's go with the Warden knows someone is down there, but hasn't had the pleasure of making his acquaintance yet.

Part of the reason why the Warden even still allows excavation teams to keep digging down through the old jails is because they'll reach whoever is down there eventually.
The other part of the reason is he's a jail aficionado who likes seeing how past people did incarceration and if there's anything to gleam from them.

I think after Dora smashes Me-Mow or Dai Lung's face with a tray, she gets sent to solitary.

She's released from solitary early because she has a visitor. It's Penny Gadget.
Penny offers her a deal and gives her a communicator of some kind.

Dora may have gotten out of solitary early, but she's still due for punishment and is forced to join the excavation team. Wong, seeing an opportunity, tasks Dora with finding "the first bad man" buried way down there. She does this for him, he'll help her out with something, like getting into the evidence locker.
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>>84175472
That'll work.
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>>84175472
Could we have Joy be the one to guide Dora's party around the prison (since she obviously knows many people and has gained many friendships through [SWEET EMOTION]'s core memories trick).

She would befriend them by offering herself to be the street smarts gal they were just needing for the journey. While she would genuinely help them during this, she's very sarcastic and bittersweet.

On the last part of the prison guiding, she somehow mind controls one (or some) of the allies by depressing them with serious emotional manipulation, leading to an shadow battle. Alternatively, she simply reveals herself as a back-stabbing traitor and tries to kill them through traps and mental manipualtion.
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>>84176136
I feel like that would be good, only I'm worried, don't we already have a traitor plot like that?

But otherwise, that is a pretty nice idea. I could see it.
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>>84176136
>>84176274
Also, it was suggested last thread that (after being defeated) even though she offers herself to be useful to them just one last time as a final act, they kill her anyway because of how disgusted they were at how she manipulated them.

I think it is a good way to say "your intentions come before your rensponsabilities".
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>>84173768
Yes, because no one in the history of /co/co/ has EVER been given characterization outside of canon.

We are literally pitching Dora as a drug smuggler, sky's the fucking limit.
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Something that's been bothering me...
Do we have an explanation for the emergence of stands in the /co/co/ universe?
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>>84176665
They're like an ascended form of MELODY, which is toon physics.

>>84176136
I feel a plot like that would need time to mature, and that Suzie would already be wise to Joy's tricks and steer Dora away from her.
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>>84173964
What do you think his helmet is for?
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>>84176274
>>84176136

We don't really have any other traitor plots. I was playing around with one, but it never went anywhere.

My one concern is the fact that they straight out kill her. I feel like she should commit at least one atrocity before biting the dust, it's the most Jojolike path of events.

I had an idea for placing Gaz and Giffany into the PI section. So, they're looking for a way out and the gang finds out that, somehow, Superjail and the prison share a security system.

Hunting for the Superjail counterpart, they find the security system is actually a video game being played by Gaz, who is currently deeply engrossed in play. After mistaking her for a prisoner, fight happens and they beat Gaz, convincing her to join them.

Gaz reveals that she isn't actually in control of the system itself, only the action of monitoring, and the actual defense system is connected to an independently operating AI, who we later discover is Giffany.

It turns out that Giffany is very crucial to Superjail's stability, basically standing as the "wall" between PI and the prison in a sense, using her Stand (somehow) to keep the realm (which actually has a physical counterpart) stable. There's probably a better way to put this, but that's the gist of things.

So they beat Giffany, which has the unintended side effect of causing the whole prison to malfunction, the real prison merging with Superjail. Warden makes use of this time to start expanding Superjail globally, using (Jackknife?)'s ability to expand PI, "stabilizing" it so that it can safely expand.

The destruction of the defense system also causes a prison wide riot, resulting in mass anarchy as various groups start vying for control as both Dora's group and the Warden's group try to take control over the situation, leading to the confrontation that soft-resets reality, causing the apparent "deaths" of everyone in the prison.
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>>84176136
Squidward plot was last part baby.

Nice try
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>>84176886
No, we're not doing any reality resetting.

Not even a soft one.
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>>84176886
As a sort of addition to that, I had some thoughts on the Warden.

We should spin the Warden as a Handsome Jack type figure, someone who, despite the atrocities he commits, believes that he is in the right. To him, people are awful, why shouldn't they all be locked up like the animals they are? It's fun for him, so it's a net positive.

So, to play off that, let's give him a sort of "anti-broJo" squad, a group of his most trusted friends and advisors. This has been done before, but the difference here is that, later in the story, we focus in on those groups, maybe even pitch some fights from their perspective to hype up the rivalry between Dora and Warden.

And as betrayals and mistrust starts brewing in Dora's group, the same goes for Warden's group. And when Warden has a huge big happy victory, we get a jarring shift to Dora's party, reminding us that despite all that Warden is still very much the bad guy to be stopped.
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>>84176625
Yeah. AND when we rewrite her we just use her face, but work off her heritage and the funniness of her being what she is.

We do the same thing to the other guys their only charm as comedic ass holes disappears. If we keep it then Dora would have even less reason to join them.

Fuck it man. They work better in part 8 . That's where the ass holes saving the world storyline happens.
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>>84176941
As in, the scene where everyone gets scattered throughout the world. Whatever you wanna call that.
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>>84176986
>let's make the Warden like Handsome Jack.


Holy fuck no. Borderlands sucks ass and I'm glad Overwatch assfucked Battleborne.
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>>84176851
Why are you pushing the Dredd has no stand angle so hard? Is it because cripplechan talked shit about his stand? I'm not saying we shouldn't change the one he has, but not giving him one when he is overseeing a prison for stand users makes as much sense as letting a monkey watch a kindergarten class.
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>>84176625
and Lowly Worm was Vanilla Ice, J. Geil, and Angelo all wrapped into a wormy package.

>>84176665
Besides the naturally developed Stands, Farnsworth accidentally invented a machine that created Stand-granting jawbreakers.
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>>84177058
Holy shit do you always get this triggered when someone brings up a series that you don't like?

The point is to spin parts of the story from the Warden's perspective, as a way to distinguish this part better from the other parts.

We can't stand on PI alone to distinguish Part 6. As much of a mess as Part 5 was, the whole WB angle was actually gold. Without the visuals of Superjail though, we really can't bring to life that same level of surreal mayhem, not in the same way and not to that same extent.
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>>84177132
Make it a prison escape mixed with a murderous Dr. Suess book, then. Because that sounds way more interesting than what you're saying. Keep in mind end goal is to make this a comic, what we're writing is something of a proto-script.
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>>84177208
But again, that's still not really enough.

It's a cool concept, but it isn't enough to frame the story around, and it's certainly not being well utilized now, because as is it's just a blatant Hunger Games / Battle Royale style death game, and death games are a dime a dozen as far as imagination goes.

If there is more to the PI concept than we're letting on, it'd be best if someone, maybe you, could really specify what that means, because as is it's not that interesting.
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>>84177091
It mixed things up a bit. But honestly, if you can come up with a Stand for him it would be perfect.

>>84177132
Sure I'm triggered. But your idea is retarded.

The demon thing worked because it grew organically. You can't come up with villain motivations with a shot in the dark.
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>>84177315
You misunderstand how much Part 5 suffeed because of the gauntlet and extra shit we stuffed in.

Parts 2 and 3 were more concise and were way funner to write man.
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>>84176986
The thing is, the Warden has his own agenda. Dredd and the Warden are set to clash later in the story because the Warden is ignoring The Law.

Let me dig up some stuff that we'll either modify, change, or toss out, but I still want to bring it up for discussion:

>eventually Dredd gets sick of the Warden ignoring his own rules on a whim
>Dredd rebels and begins rampaging through the prison doling out "proper" justice to all the inmates

>we see Dredd a few times, sometimes he's reprimanding or killing a prisoner with [insert stand name here], other times he's just watching
>every time he's extremely menacing, especially when Jacknife or Susie tries to slip him one and they almost get killed
>Judge Dredd eventually gets sick of the Warden and becomes The Law
>Dora tries to take him on and gets wrecked
>he only stops after using his Judge skills to eavesdrop and some other party members taking care of Dora's wounds
>he hears them talk about the Warden's plan
>he's know completely and fully fed up with Warden's shit, and assists the party in some fashion

>In the end, Dredd thinks he was rebelling against the warden and doing things his way to 'clean up' Superjail
>Turns out the Warden expected it and was pushing Dredd the whole time hoping he would snap and bring some more fun to his prison
>"Well goodness me, Dredd, I gotta admit, you took a lot longer to snap than I thought you would, kudos to your steel will, but then again...even steel can rust."

>Maybe even have Dredd attack the Warden only to get beat down, showing that Warden was in complete control the whole time. Doesn't even kill him, just beats the shit out of him and puts him back on duty
>"Well that was...fun? Officer Dredd, now that thats over, I expect you to be back on your rounds, on schedule! I pay you to work, not lay there bleeding!"
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>>84177315
Well, from what I gathered from the previous plot, Warden's plan was inspired in Leterally's work (it even mentioned using his assets, but that was never explained), ultimately he planned to make his imaginary realm (Pure Imagination) real, putting the whole world in jail.
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>>84177315
Okay, think of it like this.

You get thrown into the office of the prison warden. He goes on and on about how interesting you are and how much fun you'll be, and then you notice his eyes are wigging out. Like, technicolor spirals. His movements are all janky too, like an old cartoon's. Suddenly you feel this slab thing grab you and shove you forward towards the warden, whose face has grown into this gigantic cloud thing.

You fall into the cloud and land in the middle of a massive death pit. Through sheer luck you manage to avoid the death games and escape beyond the boundaries of where you're supposed to be. You are now wandering aimlessly around Wonderland on a bad acid trip where nothing makes sense and an insane man can literally change the laws of physics on a whim. Your only goal is to get out, but if said insane man gets even a vague idea where you are he can crush you with a snap of his fingers.

The only thing keeping you alive is that the warden thinks it's fun watching you try to traverse his personal acid trip playground, and he's throwing shit at you like it's a game of Garry's Mod just to see how you'll react. PI shouldn't just be a prison, it should be TERRIFYING. If any other character had it the plot would be over as soon as Dora went in. The tension should hinge on whether Warden is going to get bored, because when he does shit's going to crumble fast.
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>>84177411
My issue isn't that the plot's not crowded enough, it's that it's not interesting enough.

If there's one good thing from Part 5 it's that the plot found a good consistent theme and stuck with it. The "hook" for Part 6 isn't, well, good enough yet.

The best executions of the concept I've seen so far are Vicky and Joy. Why? Because they're the only characters, outside of the Warden himself, that in my eyes really embody that sense of no holds barred insanity. Everyone else feels too reserved, too sane for this part. We have 3 crazies in a cast of straight men, and it does not work.

If we want to go for a tighter, more character driven plot, I'm all for it. Dora's a great character concept, and I actually want to see her develop as a person. Dredd's turn, the themes of maturity and responsibility contrasted against innocence and immaturity, these are all cool things, but we need to make a decison on whichh way we're going to go for this part.

And don't fucking say "both", because if we focus on the insanity the first third is going to suffer, and if we focus on the characters the second third (the PI section) is going to suffer. Something has to give.
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>>84177626
Why should the physical prison be a whole third anyway? The second Warden shows his face people are going to guess Superjail is involved, why not just get straight to the insanity and use the sane protagonists to highlight the rational and measured vs. imaginative and spontaneous theme?
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>>84177626
Mind if I cut in?

Part 6 isn't supposed to be crazy until they enter PI, and that doesn't happen until a 1/3rd or 1/4th of the way into it. The reason why the first part of the story is reserved is because anyone who catches the Warden's interest gets disappeared forever, and the prisoners know this, so they do their damnedest at being boring.

The Warden should be a little depressed during the first act before PI. No one new or fun has been thrown into his jail for a few weeks and he's getting bored. Then Dora arrives and beats up the pedo dad. Suddenly the Warden gets that look in his eyes and begins plotting what to do with Dora.

We need more scenes with him during the first act to establish him before he shows just how crazy he is when he sucks Dora, Suzie and whoever else into PI.
We also need these scenes to hint at his relationship with Strickland and how he's dodging Interpol's questions to setup that he's up to something.
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>>84177524
But the Warden is one character. That's the problem. If the main hitch relies on his constant antagonism, then everything else starts slipping away without him.

We are still writing Jojo. It's character vs. character driven, fight to fight. It can't always be "everyone vs. Warden", and the Stand battles that we do have, as already stated, are not cutting it.

If we're diving for full insanity, cutting the meet of the base prison section, then there are a LOT of characters that need to be cut immediately. Cut Gaz, cut Summer, cut Clarissa's Das, cut the Wong and Dan subplot, cut everything that isn't insane save for a few sane folks to play off against them, probably leaning more towards "edgy and annoyed" rather than "confused and scared".

And that would all amount to basically resetting the plot for a second time.
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>>84177754
But you cannot do both, as I've already said. It hurts the first third a lot of we restrict the crazy, because Bizarre is the heart and soul of Jojo and if we have to throw all the good stuff to the end then no one is going to bother reading to that point, and as you can already tell no one is going to want to submit stands for it.
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>>84177877
Keep in mind we JUST started working with part 6. You make a fair point about the Warden thing, I will admit, but we're on step 3 of a 300 step process. Give it a little time to grow before trying to force things.
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>>84177933
Don't we have a ton of unused stands in the docs? And we shouldn't try to shove as many stands as possible in either, that's part of what made part 5 such a bitch to write.
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>>84177954
That is true, but it's some things to keep in mind as we move forward with the story.
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>>84177990
Well, let's skip to the end. What IS Warden's end goal? Does Dredd know? Does Dredd support Warden's plan, if he does know? How does Dora beat Warden? Why the secrecy? Why not just expand PI from his basement where no one will be watching him? Having a solid start and end to the race can help establish the route, and part 6's ending is way less clear than the other parts' was.
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>>84177933
What's with you obsession with anting this part to be balls to the walls crazy from start to finish?

Crazy is just boring if you have nothing to hold it up to and say 'this is normal, this is how things are supposed to be". We need something to give contrast to the crazy or the crazy will get boring fast.

>>84178056
There was an episode of Superjail where the Warden took over and imprisoned the whole Earth. We can assume this is his end goal. Dredd does not know about this.

The Warden cannot just expand PI, he needs something first. It might be that the more stand energy is released inside of PI, the stronger it gets.
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How about someone calls the jail for stand users "Strickland's Contaminated Contingency".

Penny might call it that while discussing it with someone and how the jail is not being run properly.
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>>84178172
Okay, that's a start. But why would he need to ally with multiple organizations that would watch him like a hawk the second something goes slightly screwy? He has to need something from them, or he's just a retard. Warden may be a crazed manchild, but he's not dumb enough to needlessly ally with people who can shut him down in seconds.
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>>84177933
>no one is going to want to submit stands for it.
We have a bunch of Stands in the suggestions doc for part 6, I would prefer if those are checked first before adding more to the list. And I'm kinda short on Stand ideas right now.

>>84178056
>What IS Warden's end goal?
suck the world inside PI, or project PI over the real world, we never decided which one is the correct
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>>84177985
My concern isn't with the Stands, it's with the users. The balance between crazy and sane is really lopsided towards sanity right now, which hurts when the pitch for this part is literally "crazier than Jojo-crazy".

>>84178172
My issue isn't the existence of balancing parts, but it's that if we do lean on PI as a central part, as we likely will, it's going to be apparent that the prison segments exist mainly as contrast more than everything else. Think about how Stardust Crusaders sort of wanders aimlessly before they make it to Egypt and the plot finally starts to really pick up.

And that isn't necessarily bad either, it's just that it's hurting the creative process if all energy is going towards ideas that won't be written down until after the first fourth or third.

Last topic I was trying to sort all the suggested characters into "prison" or "PI", but that never really went anywhere, mainly because we don't really have that many neutral inmates right now. Just Dora's crew, Wong's immediate crew, and the Warden's crew.

And if we're going with Waifu Ocean characters.... they all need to be resubmitted. There's no other way, there's too much in there to be sorted through effectively. Just browse through the list, pick and choose what you want to see, and resubmit it, stand concept and all.
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>>84178254
He needed the money and labor to build the jail.
He needed people to do all the boring jobs in the jail.
He wanted cool propane technology because it looked fun.
His motives are the world is a crazy place filled with dangerous psychopaths and he will bring his own brand of order to it.

Let me dig up some other old stuff:
>Dora finally escapes
>she's ecstatic she got out
>Warden taps her on the shoulder
>"Thought if you could get out, I should let a few others on a field trip too!"
>opens the floodgates and all kinds of nasty shit spills out of the portal Pure Imagination makes

>it's end game for part 6, whatever the fuck is going on with the ending is happening
>Dora is staring at the chaos in horror
>Warden is ecstatic
>"Oh, yay! Everything is coming together, and now the entire WORLD is going to be my shiny new Superjail! Oh, but Superjail seems so underwhelming for such a mag-NI-ficent prison..."
>Dora tries to attack him, but he practically flicks her away
>"Ultraprison? No, sounds a tad too feminine... oh look, here comes some sort of Hell beast!"
>said beast attacks Dora
>"Hmm... Hell was one of the greatest prisons ever devised... but my prison will be even BETTER! I've got it!"
>he pulls out a megaphone or something
>"Attention, everyone! I have WONDERFUL news! I'd like to announce that we're expanding! From now on, you all won't be living in Superjail anymore!"
>"Your new home will be in my new prison, SUPERHELL!!"
>he cackles merrily as Dora fights for her life against whatever the fuck Pure Imagination throws at her
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>>84178529
Okay, we're getting somewhere. Why does he need the jail? Is it for giggles, stand users no one will care about when they go missing, or is it so he can tap into Dan somehow? Is he putting the world in PI, or is he merging PI with the world? Why stand users?
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>>84178336
I have an idea.

Let's say the world inside of PI is an overlap of the Warden's immediate surroundings.
He sucks you into PI and you end up in a pocket dimension that is copying the Warden's surroundings at a radius of about 2 kilometers from his person.

The further you get from wherever the Warden is in the real world, the crazier the PI world becomes and the more the laws of physics break down. So once you're in PI, you still have to remain in the jail it's copying from the real world, or else you risk being erased from reality.

Inside of PI, the Warden has total control of the copy of the main dimension's layout. He can't build the layout, he's reliant on the real world equivalent existing, which is why he needed an actual jail and couldn't just toss people into PI before he had a jail. They'd wonder off and disappear, taking their STAR energy with them.

The Warden needs to collect/imprison/kill as many stand users as possible inside of PI to absorb enough STAR energy to begin having control over the real world with it.

He's looking for a STAR energy amplifier to accelerate the process.

We should probably have it that a death in PI isn't a real death, like how in Superjail the inmates who die in one episode always come back for the next episode.
Dying still hurts and the Warden doesn't advertise that no one can die inside PI without his say so.
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>>84178685
It's nothing to do with Dan.

I think I answered a lot of those questions with my last post.

He wants to invert his stand so that he has control over the real world with it, then expand its range until the whole world is under his control.

The Warden read Daffy's book. Daffy wanted to turn everyone in the world in literally himself to put an end to all the wars and violence. The Warden wants to continue that noble goal in his own way by imprisoning everyone in the world.
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>>84178685
In the earlier draft the Panopticon was choosen by the Warden because the surveillance system in the central tower was still operational. When combined with PI, Warden can target anyone inside the Panopticon's walls and absorbs him inside PI. During the story, he would have a scientist to further modify the surveillance system and then invert it with the help of Jacknife's Stand, so its range becomes worldwide.
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>>84178917
>>84178928
Okay, great. Now we have a plan and why he's doing it the way he's doing it. Now how do you stop it once it inevitably starts? I'm thinking Dora tricks him into not going all out by saying it would be boring because he'd win right away.
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>>84179006
I think what happens in PI is linked to the Warden's mood and psyche. If they manage to distract him long enough, inverted PI should begin to destabilize since the real world would be pushing back against it.
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>>84179006
Besides downright killing him, that's what we have to define.
Is PI an alternate dimension? or is really the world inside his mind? if its the later, in the finale the mass rioting could hinder the Warden's thought processes, leading to him losing the control of his own mind.
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>>84177985
How many of the character suggestions are keeping anyway? All I'm seeing is Toki, Jacknife, and some Ruby Gloom characters.
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>>84178738
The fact that the Warden also has stand users on his payroll working inside of PI also furthers his goal.

Woe be anyone working inside of PI who wants a vacation.
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>>84179125
I'm for a world inside Warden's mind. Could be interesting having faceless Strickland agents pop up in PI's outskirts because Strickland starts hounding him in the real world, or having the real world otherwise influence PI.

Also, we should think about Suzie. Does she get thrown into PI with Dora, or later? If we said later it would give her time to investigate things in the real world, which could be interesting.
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>>84179125
I'd rather it be an actual separate space from normal reality that's copying from it so that there are actually things the people working there have to do and so that The Warden can't just run the place himself.
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>>84179312
I like that. Make the Warden omnipotent, but not omniscent. Which is why he needs guards and security systems covering everything just like a real prison.

And if Warden tries to make PI and real world blend together, that in and out of itself may have unintended consequences.
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>>84179667
It also means the Warden has two sets of security staff.

There's the mostly boring Strickland boys running the real world prison.
And the exciting merry band of stand users running the [Pure Imagination] prison.
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What epilogue are we working up to?

I know Warden and his prison explode and the inmates are scattered around the world, and Nobody winds up elected. But what else is there? Who dies? What happens to the cast?
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>>84180356
Dredd hangs up the helmet and starts a private security firm.

Judge Dredd: Mall Judge
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>>84179151
>>84170762

There is also Professor Membrane, who was suggested to be Superjail's scientist. And looking at the doc's suggestions Sideshow Bob was suggested months ago as one of the villainous inmates.
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>>84179667
>Inside the prison Warden is omniscient, but doesn't have any significant power
>In Pure Imagination, He is omnipotent, but not omniscient
Sounds good.

>>84180356
In the previous version, Dora and the surviving members of the party meet again with new identities and catch in the radio an announcement related to part 7
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>>84180356
I thought someone was supposed to show up at the end with a kid looking through a gallery of photos of the jail's destruction.
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OK, so that's the Warden's business, we still need to actually work our way up to that.

Anyone have any ideas about what else is supposed to go down between Dora and Frizzle on the bus ride to the prison?

What about how Dora fights back against Suzie before she backs off when a guard is watching them?
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>>84180889
If Dora is manifesting her Stand's powers before properly manifesting her Stand, maybe she creates an explosive footprint in the cell and that calls the attention of the guard
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>>84180889
I was thinking Dora gets gassed somehow right as Frizzle drives the bus off a cliff. When she wakes up, she's at the prison. We could make it ambiguous if it was a stand's doing, or we could just show the bus flying off towards the prison, either way.

Suzie shouldn't be too crazy. It can't be intense enough that Dora needs her stand, and it also can't be so intense that the two can't be friends after.
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>NAME (sperg from billy and mandy or any other b'bully' character)
>Stand:「CRY CRY CRY(CRY 3)」(Johny Cash)
>Appearance: A thin metal humanoid whose lower body is a scale that shows a meter for misery
>Ability/abilities: CRY3 lacks offense do to it's user being more focused on torturing the opponet themselves
The stand's ability is primarily to make anybody in looking distance under it's effect
>The stand has the ability to amplify both mental or physical suffering more than it actually is
> secondary ability:「HURT」: When the victim shows sign of misery to CRY3 MISERY is gained by CRY 3 and allows to further enhance it's abilities

>Stats (If you have them):
>Destructive Power: E
>Speed C
>Range B
>Durability B
>Precision C
>Developmental Potential D
>Suggested Role/Part: part 8 maybe?


>Stand :「 JUST ANOTHER PART OF ME」 by Michael Jackson
>Appearance:A robotic sheep followed by a small toy robot that resembles an action figure of a stereotypical superhero
>Ability: The sheep provides "good Vibes" in a sense alms down anybody in the range of the stand as long as they believe they >are stressed
>The action figure has the ability to use it's super hearing to hear the thoughts of another person to hear the issues plaguing the >person or just to track lost people

>Destrutive power :
>Destructive Power E
>Speed D
>Range D
>Durability A
>Precision B
>Developmental Potential E
>suggested user; maybe a kindhearted character that saw stands as a mean to help mankind and decided to Use JUST ANOTHER PART OF ME to help the betterment of others
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I'm thinking we need scenes with the Warden and Dredd interacting. Partially because the differences in their personalities would be hilarious to play with, and partially to further justify why Dredd would both join and eventually leave Warden.
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>>84182032
Warden and Dredd are more alike than you think.
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>>84182270
In terms of end goal, sure, I can see it. But Dredd's seriousness playing off of Warden's... Warden would be pretty funny, you have to admit.
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>>84182383
They have similar wants and desires I think? Their personalities clash, but overall they want they same thing. I can't really see what would cause conflict between them.

Warden might try and troll Dredd, but Dredd would probably shoot him down all the time.
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>>84182032
>"Sir, I don't see the utility in letting these Stand users run free in Superjail. I think it would be far more efficient to contain them in some kind of... cubes."
>"And thaaaat's why you're not the Warden!"
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>>84176792
Suzie would be untrusting of her at first, but they decide she's worth it since she knows the less known parts of the prison.

In the story, I imagine her describing the morbid history of the prison and its analogy to Dante's inferno/purgatory, mainly acting as the voice from with we use to describe the prison. Maybe she just appears when they advance to another part of the prison to aid them. Maybe she just wants to escape the prison at their cost.

>>84176886
As I said in >>84176586, she should commit an atrocity on the last parts of the prison. Maybe something like almost killing them on a place she knew was dangerous. I don't know if she really needs any intention for doing that since most JoJo villains just like killing.

>>84176932
Please elaborate.
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>>84184405
Are you meaning the regular prison, or Superjail?
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>>84144016
>Dora recoils from the door handle in disgust. Suzie lays her hands on Dora's shoulders, but is shaken off. Dora turns to see a neon green slug crawling over Suzie's shoulders.
>"¡Mierda! What the fuck is that?" Suzie smiles and strokes it affectionately. "Ah, you can see my [Slug Bait]. Beautiful, ees eet not?"
>Dora thinks to herself. "So this must be a [STAND]... I guess eating that Jawbreaker must have let me see it." She tries to grab it, but can't touch it.
>Suzie tuts. "Oh, do not be silly. Everyone knows zat you cannot touch a Stand, though..." Slug Bait wraps itself around Dora's hands. "Eet can still touch you, of course."
>Dora tries to pull it off, but of course, she can't. Slug Bait crawls up her shirt sleeve, and she starts jerking around, trying to get it out. Suzie titters.
>The Stand comes out of her neck hole, crawling onto her face in visceral Araki style. Parts of her shirt have started converting into nasty fleshy shit. "Get this thing off of me!"
>Suzie doesn't. "Oh, that is not very nice... Slug Bait is not just a "theeng", you know."
>Dora tries to attack Suzie, but stops short - the neck of her shirt has been converted into muscle fibre, and is now contracting, choking her. She stumbles, and drops down to one knee, tugging at her shirt neck.
>Slug Bait has converted even more of what Dora's wearing into flesh, and it's all grabbing at her body. Dora has managed to get her hands into her shirt neck so she can breathe, but it's shallow.
>Suzie is smiling. "I see we are going to have so much fun together..."
>Then, her eyes widen: Dora has hooked her foot round Suzie's ankle. She yanks her leg back, pulling Suzie off her feet and causing her to land hard on the floor.
>The flesh on Dora's shirt immediately loosens. Slug Bait convulses and falls off.
>Dora thinks. "So if you hurt the [user], you hurt the [Stand]..." Suzie is angry and getting up, but Dora is up faster. She kicks Suzie in the stomach and knocks her back down, winded.
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>>84184944
>Dora now has her foot pushing into Suzie's windpipe. "Can you say "miserichordia", perra?" Suzie chokes something.
>"What was that?" Dora demands. Suzie points at the cell door.
>"L-le gardien..." Gameboy is outside - not looking in yet, but he's right outside the door.
>Dora jumps back onto the bed. Suzie starts coughing, causing Gameboy to look in on them. It stares for several moments, and then loses interest and moves away.
>Dora sits back. "Why? Why'd you warn me? If that thing had come in, he'd have got me away from you."
>"Because... I deed not want you to leave. I just wanted to be friends with you, but everyone else has always tried to leave me. I deed not want zat to happen again."
>Dora crosses her arms. "Well. I know all about being abandoned by people you thought you could trust." Flashback panel of Swiper leaving Dora to the cops. "Maybe we should take it from the top, huh?"
>Suzie smiles, and offers her hand. "Creepy Suzie."
>Dora shakes. "Dora. Dora Marquez."
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>>84183293
>>84182383

Dredd is supposed to be 2serius4u. Half the joke in his comics is that hes too fucking serious. His movies do not do him justice. Maybe the sylvester stallone one.

We need to have a "You betrayed the LAAW" Moment.
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>>84184405
I mean that Squidward beine a traitor has already been done. The best way to do your waifu here is to make her betray way too early.

Redoing last Part's plot is unnecessary
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>>84184944
Dubs of talent.

I love it.
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>>84185252
I had assumed she was gonna be just an arc villain, myself.
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>>84185237
Speaking of which, we also need Dora and Suzie - on descending to meet Dinosaur Dan - to get in a "What I want to know is where's the caveman?"
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>>84184357
>"For the last time, Dredd, I'm not adding those awfully boring cubes you keep suggesting, and you know why?
>(groans) "because you are the Warden"
>"Exactly!"
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>>84185849
Having banter about Iso-cubes seems like a fun thing we could do.
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>>84184944
>>84184951
Nice work. Then I guess we go into >>84172822 and >>84173173

We still need to expand on Dora's "tour" of the jail.

>>84184405
Maybe Joy is who first greets them when they end up in PI.

She keeps trying to get them killed, but is later killed herself, then comes back and reveals to the two of them that you can't die for real in PI unless the Warden allows it.
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>>84186277
I'm unsure about having her in PI now if we want to ramp up the insanity.
Maybe she could offer to help them with finding ways to break out?
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>>84187816
If she actually knows how to break out of PI, why wouldn't she have already done it?

How DO you break out of PI?
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>>84187840
cracking the Warden's mind (even more)?
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>>84187840
Only Jackknife knows on account of him being Jackknife, but I can't remember if that's a result of his stand or because he's that good.
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>>84187840
I imagine there's another PI inside PI that takes them out to the real world. Fake!Warden guards it however.
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>>84184574
Superjail since its the one we could use a guider to explain it.

>>84185252
>>84185350
It won't be like last time though, she's not going to be a party member really, just a "friend" that aids them with information while they aid her with force. Again, she's mostly the one that will intorduce them to the parts of the prison and their origins.

>>84186277
>>84187816
>>84187840
Nice ideia, maybe she knows a way but doesn't have the strength to do it herself.
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>>84185252
Also, she's not my waifu, the closest one to be my waifu/daughteru/friendu here is Sadness.
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>>84188032
No, that doesn't make sense. PI is a copy of the real jail that the Warden has total control over.

So every cell in it is it's own personal prison, the cafeteria is a battlefield, the excavation levels are different environments, the watch tower in the middle of the place is like the burning eye, and whatever else that's in the real jail is in there too, only twisted, warped, and often times totally different.

The Warden can pull people into PI, but we haven't determined how he does that yet.
However he pulls people into PI, the opposite of that is probably how to get out.
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>>84188127
I'd say there has to be a singular point Warden has set up where he can make the switch. Probably in his office. Once you hit that point, it's a simple matter of finding the "door" and hoping you step through it. Assuming you're right by the door, it should be almost impossible to accidentally get into PI, but fairly easy to get out. The problem would be Dora not knowing where the door out is or just the inherent difficulty that comes with getting into the Warden's office.
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>>84188127
I had assumed Warden still had his Jailbot Doorway punchghost that drags people inside.

An inanimate version is featured inside the realm.
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>>84188242
We can work with that.

The Warden pulls people in PI with his jaibot punchghost stand and inside of PI there's a stature of it somewhere with a door to exit PI.

It's probably on top of the central tower.
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>>84187840
Shit, I meant help with finding a way out of the main prison during the initial jailbreak attempt.
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>>84170762
After WOY finale I have a suggestion

Stand User: Lord Dominator
Stand: [The Universe On Fire]

Power: Upon looking at it, a person gets hit by visions of Dominator destroying everything they love and then everything left, then other planets etc. The more a person looks directly into the stand, the more it grows in power, feeding on the fear it's causing and evolves into stronger forms - first her old armor, then starts turning the area into her now-destroyed ship. The final form is that of her ship.

Looks: In the basic state it looks like one of her probe bots merged with a helmet of her armor. As it grows in power it becomes more like an arakified version of her armor. if it grows in power later it attaches itself to a building starts turning it into D's ship. The Stand can be weakened not by overcoming your fears and insecurities in front of it. However, not being afraid of it in the first place does not weaken it.

Destructive Power, range, durability: Start at E but can grow all the way up to A.
Speed, Development Potential Precision: Starts at respectively A, A and B, but at the Stand grows, drop to D, E and E.

Role:
A defeated villain now in jail, who is trying to use her Stan to regain her former power.Likely to be beaten before she gets to remake her ship (maybe by Suzie?).

I was thinking for [Back In the Day] as an alternate name, but I don't know if it's not too related to what the Stand does and the song is associated with Duck Dodgers, so that didn't feel right.
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>>84188911
>It's probably on top of the central tower.
Finding the tower is easy, getting to it...not so much.
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>>84189106
>The Stand can be weakened not by
erase not from that sentence.
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>>84189143
And climbing it is even worse.

I think as soon as someone tries to climb the central watch tower, it triggers environmental changes throughout PI.

So other inmates would be just as likely to try to stop you from climbing it since they don't want to get swept up in it.
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>>84189354
I was thinking that to get to it, you have to think like the man who designed PI in the first place. The direct route is most certainly NOT the most logical one in this instance.
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>>84189404
I think it'd be easier to scale the walls of the jail and then use something to glide to the top of the tower rather than try to make your way directly to it and then try to scale it.
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>>84189354
Tower climbs are liable to become gauntlets, though. How do we work around that?
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>>84190054
Look one post up from yours.

And this tower isn't like the WB tower, it doesn't have floors to traverse. It's basically a room (or collection of rooms) on top of a tall pole.
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>>84190054
Trying to climb the tower normally would probably just get you thrown out of the tower into a death pit. Climbing it should be more of an adventure game-tier puzzle than an actual climb.
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Just finished part 1 and episode 2 in to part 2. I like the new theme song, and the new jojo.
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Hey, people. Anyone remembers what were the /co/rge Plucky and Daffy's stands? And Kuzco, to go with it.
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>>84190145
>>84190054

Easy. Make them try to use a pulley of sorts, while the Gaz fight happens.

Make Gaz a vertical fight that they fight while tied to ropes against foes who seem to stand on walls. It adds suspense to a pretty vanilla fight.
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>>84190864
Daffy's was [Metamorphosis]; a space station-sized Stand, can't remember the exact details
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>>84191044
They try gliding to the tower from one of the walls, but that turns out to be only the way to get to the tower, not get up on top of the tower.

It's like a great prison escape thing there they have to build an airplane.
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>>84190864
Plucky's stand was named [THE GODFATHER]. I think it was the same as Fortunate Son, just with a different name. Alternatively it placed drills on things instead of holes. Plucky had become the Toxic Revenger, a celebrity, in order to take care of his mother.

Daffy is Duck Dodgers. His stand was named [METAMORPHOSIS] but it was sorta tentative due to it's nature. It basically gave him a readout of things that might happen in the immediate future and how likely they would happen given in percentages. "How did you almost know what I would do?" "My stand grants me approximate knowledge of many things." It can also fire a death laser based on estimating where the opponent will be. It can't fire directly at them, only where it thinks they'd be in 5 minutes, it's charge time. While mostly accurate, the stand can still be fooled.
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>>84191744

Thanks, Anon. You did good help.
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>>84190469
Nice blog faggot
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>>84191744
>In the main timeline, Plucky's brother Woody was a mafia boss with a Stand that planted drills on things
>In the /co/rge timeline, Plucky has a Stand named after a book about the mafia with a Stand that plants drills on things
Meanwhile, Woody Woodpecker has a Stand called [ATLAS SHRUGGED], which can plant holes on things.
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>>84192076

What is his AU name then? Dyatel Voodi? (Russia's name)
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So what's solitary like in the Warden's real world prison?
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>>84192769
Just a hallway full of large, metal doors with a ridiculous number of chains and bolts on them.

Rooms are poorly furnished, padded, though the material is scratched up and sometimes peeling off, and full of weird shit. Mannequins and surgical equipment are common features. Occasionally there will be drab colored or rusty metal cabinets that are empty, or filled with murky jars. Not all rooms have the same things. Sometimes there will be just chairs in a room, or a single mannequin. Other pieces of furniture are rusty and worn. Tables will be rusted metal and sometimes have wheels. There is a dirty bedpan or bucket in every room.

"Beds" if you can call them that are just frames with some strange, flexible material poorly stretched over it. Feels like flesh. Sometimes they have stitches on them. The walls have been known to ooze green slime. Certain rooms have vents from where horrifying noises emanate.

Every rooms has a one way mirror in it. And due to the air purifier failing in that section of the prison, it's covered in a slight fog and smells horrible.
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>>84189106

Is that a re-work of her powers? Because she has been suggested as one of the top guards in Superjail.
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>>84193039
It's also dark, dark enough to mistake a few of the manikins for the prisoners who are, according to the paperwork, supposed to be there. As you can imagine, they are all actually in PI.

Speaking of paperwork, according to it most of the prisoners in solitary kill themselves pretty quickly. The higher ups want to look into why, but when they see the types of psychos that go in there they brush it under the rug.
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>>84192769
What I'm wondering is what solitary/supermax is like inside Pure Imagination. Would it just be a separate part walled off from the rest? Would Dredd have persuaded the Warden to install boring ol' Iso-Cubes to deal with the prisoners with the most potential to threaten him?
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>>84193039
Because Dora is going to be doing some days in there after fighting pedo dad and bashing someone's face with a tray for all to see.

They let the pedo dad thing slide since it gave the Warden the final "justification" he needed to send him into PI, but openly fighting in a crowded area will get you thrown in solitary. Especially if Dredd is watching.
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>>84193614
It's probably just a place made out of flesh, blood, gore, and rusty sharp objects if we're going with this. >>84193039
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>>84193680
She did that in regular jail tho. Not PI
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>>84193746
I'm talking about solitary in regular jail.

She fights the pedo dad.
She smashes someone's face for sending her to his cell.
She gets thrown in solitary.
Penny pulls some strings with the people she knows to get Dora out of solitary early to make her an offer.

That's the tentative plan right now.
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>>84194048
So we get, like
>Dora's being escorted to her solitary cell
>She's looking through the door windows, at the people in them slumped on the chairs or in their beds
>She realises something, and looks closer
>The guy in the cell she's going past is just a mannequin
>We get a "what the fuck is going on" moment, though she doesn't say anything
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>>84194145
I like it. The mannequin should look like someone who shows up later in PI, just to drive the point home that shit's fucked.
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>>84194145
Yes.

How long should her sentence in solitary be? How long should she actually be in solitary before Penny arranges a meeting with her?

Penny probably can't visit her through normal means, someone she knows should have an ability to get her into the prison, or an ability to project her into the prison like a hologram.
We could introduce a rodent in the wall to make the offer to Dora.

Dora mulls the offer over while in solitary and Penny arranges an early release from solitary to show Dora that she can keep the promises she makes.
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>>84173729

Eh, given Jojo as a whole, that kind of thing comes up pretty often. Soft Machine and Spice Girl were pretty much the same Stand and then we had Goo Goo Dolls and Green Green Grass of home an arc after Little Feet. All that really changed was activation requirements.
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>>84194289
So anyway, I want to have a covert Interpol agent in this who isn't undercover as a prisoner, but is hiding in the walls of the jail.

I want them to be someone small, someone from the Rescue Rangers or Bernard and Miss Bianca from The Rescuers would be my top choices for the role since Dora is still kind of a kid (Physically anyway. Young teen?) and she is in a lot of danger, but any character could fill the role as long as they're tiny enough to slip through the cracks.
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>>84194289
I guess we just have her thrown in solitary at the end of day 2, and then we cut to the morning 2 days later, when Penny arranges the meeting.
I was thinking that she would actually arrange the meeting via normal channels, since that'd be the only way to get Dora out of solitary to speak to her in the first place.
What happens to Suzie in all this?
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>>84194646
I was thinking she'd be, like, 17 or 18, so that it's reasonable for her to be in an adult jail.
I kind of like the idea of using Bernard, but I'd like to see what story utility he'd have first.
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>>84194690
She's surprised and overjoyed the Dora came back to her since most people who get sent to solitary never come back.

The problem with normal channels is how does Penny get to the jail? How does she leave the jail? How does she slip Dora the communicator without anyone catching her?

I thought if it was a secret meeting via some other method in solitary, Penny would be able to show that she has the ability to back up her promises by getting Dora out of solitary early.

>>84194711
Whoever fills this role I'm proposing would be like a secret supply line for Dora. She does what Penny asks, and she gets things through them in return.
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>>84194942
Yeah, that makes sense, I guess. Hard to think how
Then again, if Frizzle's bus travels to the jail supernaturally, how does Penny get there in the first place? How does she organise Dora's release?
How about she shows up as an official Interpol agent, secretly communicates with Penny via Bernard to avoid drawing attention to herself, and then... I dunno, uses some kinda Stand trickery so that she can stay in the vicinity of the prison without the Warden knowing?
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>>84195198
Penny has contacts among the Strickland staff at the prison. They are only there to do their jobs though, so she can't use hem for spy stuff, but she can ask them to do things that wall within their job's coverage.
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>>84194942
>how does Penny get to the jail? How does she leave the jail?
Well, She is Interpol, one of the two big groups that are supplying the prison. Denying her access to the prison will raise further suspicion

>>84195198
I'm pretty sure the real world prison is in a tangible place
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>>84195490
The real prison is a place. A secret, secluded place that is almost impossible to get to (I was thinking they put a mine field or something around it), but a place. Penny, being with Interpol, would know how to get there.
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>>84194942

Penny's Interpol's "official" face into the project while the expendables and the deep cover agents get inside. She knows that the Warden's bullshitting her but can't quite prove it from where she is and doesn't want to directly tip him off.
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>>84195490
>>84195648
OK, so Penny could get to the prison by riding on one of the Strickland trucks bringing in supplies. She's Interpol, but dose she want the Warden to know she's come for a surprise visit?
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>>84195449
This makes sense
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>>84195715
>>84195648
Why not have Bluster Kong be her mouth and Eyes and ears until he kicks it. At which point Penny comes in?

Or idk if that works.
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>>84195881
Wasn't Bluster Kong killed in the previous part though?
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>>84195881
That doesn't make any sense to me.

Where Penny comes in is tentatively decided since she gets Dora out of solitary, it's just the how that we're trying to figure out.

Does Penny come to the prison in person and her arrival sends the Warden into a tizzy since he's at a delicate stage in his plans, so Dora gets out of solitary early at Penny's request to keep her from further snooping?

Or does she send one of her tiny operatives with a communication device in to talk to Dora in her solitary confinement cell and give her the communicator? Then Dora gets out of solitary early as a way for Penny to prove she can actually back up the promises she's making.

We're trying to figure this out right now.
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>>84195981
Why can't it be both? Penny visits and has an agent discreetly give Dora a communication device shortly afterwards?
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>>84195881
That adds nothing, and doesn't fit on the timescale we're working with.
Even if we did had an inside man, we wouldn't use Bluster Kong, because he probably died when the WB tower came down.
>>84196114
This works best, I think - she's doing a two-pronged approach. A public investigation from her, and a secret one by Dora.
Not sure how she'd get Dora out without getting the Warden's attention on her, though.
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>>84196114
I keep running into logical problems with the official visit path.

An official visit would consist of Dora and Penny being separated by bulletproof glass and only being able to talk to each other through a phone. There's no guarantee Dora would even pick up the phone to listen to what Penny has to say, and there's also no way for Penny to slip her the communication device. [Technologic] can take things apart, but it can't reassemble them as far as I'm aware.

The option of a small secret agent speaking with Dora through a hole in the wall eliminates the problems of getting her the device.
I think it would also allow us to flow into introducing therapist Bobby organically since he'd be who help organize her early release. She'd meet with Bobby in his office, he'd tell her something about way to work out her aggression and manage her anger and give her some options of prison activities to occupy her time with. One of them would be the excavation team that digs out the old jails below.

Wong would have a bunch of his guys on that team too, and so that gives Wong reason to speak with Dora.

If Dai Lung, Me-Mow, and Suzie also go down there, Dai can finger trap them together.

I also thing they'd all be wearing bomb collars and Gameboy would be their supervisor for the excavation.
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>>84196651
I feel like the handcuff thing should happen later on. It's a bit too early for it.

Dai Lung's stand might not even be brought up. The very first idea had Wiggum handcuff Suzie and Xero and have them fight for their lives, then it turned out Xero wanted Suzie dead.

While that's not the idea we would go on, I'd prefer it if our handcuff fight/scene was more prominent. Maybe happening in PI?
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>>84196651
>An official visit would consist of Dora and Penny being separated by bulletproof glass and only being able to talk to each other through a phone.
So have her officially visiting the prison, not Dora.
>[Technologic] can take things apart, but it can't reassemble them as far as I'm aware.
Say it's evolved in the years since part 4. That's what the Potential rank is for.
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>>84196760
As far as I'm aware, Wiggum isn't in this part anymore.

And we can't have everything happen in PI.

Once this whole cave man business is done with, then we'll be going to PI.

>>84196886
That still brings up the problem of arranging a meeting without the Warden knowing.
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>>84196576
Probably has to do with the fact she took down a user without a stand of her own.

That makes her notable enough for an interview to not be seen as odd.
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>>84197535
And don't forget she was also involved with a Jawbreaker smuggling ring, something that Interpol has been trying to crack down since part 4.
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D.W's stand

>Can't Touch This
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>>84198523
We've been having trouble finding a place for her. I'll just go ahead and say that she'll be in Corge.
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Question: Are comic/animated Sonic characters still allowed in? I remember there being some kerfuffle over Knuckles' inclusion.
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>>84198523
>>84198604
Who?
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>>84198885
Yeah, but we have enough now with Robotnik goons, Knuckles, and Tails.

Tails is a bit ambiguous though. He's in part 8 unless we have any other suggestions. Part 8 hasn't been written yet, so he can be exchanged if we wanted.
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>>84198963

Damn, wanted to have Sticks as the Prison Crazy.
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>>84198885

I still find funny how people complain about Knuckles being included in this and yet no one made a fuss about Beetlejuice and Lydia, as they are originally /tv/. Not to mention Jay and Silent Bob, and Carmen Sandiego who is /tg/.
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I had an idea for how to make the handcuff/Chinese finger trap thing work.

During the riot/gang war happening after Dinosaur Dan is killed, Dai traps Suzie to Me-Mow to make sure their hostage doesn't get away.

When the Warden appears, Dora, Suzie, and Me-Mow because she's stuck to Suzie all get sucked into PI.

In PI, the first non-hostile thing they encounter is Joy, who easily undoes the finger trap. From there she starts leading them astray into the more dangerous parts of PI because it amuses her and because she knows no one can die here, but the newbies don't know that, so it brings her entertainment to watch them think they're about to die.
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OK, I just had another idea.

Dora's map leads you to places, right? In the Warden's hands, it gives him a map to the still un-plundered jawbreaker caches, he sends Frizzle out there to collect a huge number of stand jawbreakers and bring them back to him.

Dora relays this information to Penny and Interpol goes to intercept Frizzle.

Something something something. Fights and stuff. Something something something.

Dredd finally turns on the Warden when the Warden makes his intentions clear that he plans to use the jawbreakers, which is illegal.

The Warden now has a shit load of stand jawbreakers and dumps them into PI, causing it to absorb a huge amount of STAR energy and begin inverting so that he has control over the real world.
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>>84199786
>make up STAR energy for the sake of a pun
>it becomes official terminology
Kek. Amusement aside, this actually works. Did we ever decide exactly how PI is absorbing the STAR energy, though? Is it just passively taking it in, or does the continuous cycle of death release it?

There was also an idea a while back that Warden tried feeding jawbreakers to robots like Wall-E to see what would happen. If PI isn't absorbing STAR passively, maybe he feeds the jawbreakers to a bunch of robots specially created to be destroyed over and over? They would be programmed not to escape, and with a combo of Propane Tech and PI wizard science Warden could probably create a machine with enough of a soul that it could gain a stand.
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>>84200038
I'd say it just passively absorbs it from stand users. It never deprives them of their stand since it wants to keep them alive to keep absorbing it.

Death probably releases a huge amount of star energy, but more than half of that is used to keep the person from dying for real since keeping them alive nets more STAR energy in the long run.

I imagine Bobby has an override code for every Strickland robot or robot running on the Strickland operating system.

"Override code Hill-1: Ladybird." and all the robots become loyal to Bobby letting him commandeer a spare Propane Nightmare and use it like how he imagined how his dad used it.
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>>84200038
> bunch of robots specially created to be destroyed over and over
>create a machine with enough of a soul that it could gain a stand
>Scud is slated to appear in part 7
You are onto something, Anon. And is nice to known that the people that worked in part 3 are still on the ride.
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>>84200203
Bobby as an adult with his father's Stand fighting alongside RoboDale?

I love it.
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>>84200038

>There was also an idea a while back that Warden tried feeding jawbreakers to robots like Wall-E to see what would happen. If PI isn't absorbing STAR passively, maybe he feeds the jawbreakers to a bunch of robots specially created to be destroyed over and over? They would be programmed not to escape, and with a combo of Propane Tech and PI wizard science Warden could probably create a machine with enough of a soul that it could gain a stand.

I think Professor Membrane could have a role in this scenario as well. The Warden would trick him to create robots to consume jawbreakers with the excuse that the Warden wants to study the nature of the Stands, but in reality he is planning to create that machine for his own sinister deeds.

Wall-E would be one of the robots that survived the experiments and is kept around by Membrane, who got fond of the little guy and elected him to be his personal assistant.
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>>84200293
We really need to establish RoboDale in the prison.

What does he do? What's his job there? Does he patrol the outside of the prison?
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>>84200399
Since Strickland is the one supplying the workforce and technology, He was probably stationed as a guard
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>>84200517
Why would Dale want to work in a prison?

Is he only working there to keep an eye out for Bobby?
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>>84200301
There was an idea that Wall-E's roach got a stand and helped the protags by following them around. I think it's still in the docs, something about healing people when they sleep.
>>84200612
I was never big on RoboDale myself, but since people want him I would say either that or a hostile takeover of Strickland. The new brood are Nobody's puppets, natch.
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