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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/
>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
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>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/
>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
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>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
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>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
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>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.
>*-We also got a DISCORD CHAT going on, ask for an invite in the thread.
>Wise words from John Cleese:
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>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/
>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf
>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/
WIP
Working on my first few pages now. I've been planning and writing it carefully for a while and believe I have it all well put together.
First time doing all drawing, inking, and coloring in my comics. Hope to have this and my other pages done in a few days if I have enough energy after work.
Hate webcomics
>>83647619
whoa dude, top quality
>>83647703
i'd rather not, if you don't mind.
Taking a break from my occult detective comic to freshen up my mind. In the meanwhile (which may turn out to be quite a LONG while), I've turned my focus on another idea I've had in mind for couple years already.
The working title's ''OUTRAGEOUS''. It's about a group of shameless internet content creators who're willing to do absolutely anything for views, money and fame. There's no line they wouldn't cross nor a boundary they couldn't break. If there's money to be made, they are already there.
I'm really excited to write this one and to really explore the morality of these people, and my own on the side. Also, diving into the fakeness of our ''media reality'' has been awesome so far. I'm not trying to demonize the media, btw-- No, I embrace it through my characters. It's a gold mine for them, so there's no time for them to get ethical about it. I leave the ethics to the reader.
It's a one twisted show, I tell you that. And the characters are the kind you love to hate, unless you're easily offended.. then you'll probably JUST hate them, period. It's a dark noir-ish comedy/ drama, that also pretends to be a little like a documentary from behind the scenes of the content creating business.
>>83647703
Then why are you here?
>>83647967
i'm pretty sure he was asking us to hate webcomics
>>83647748
sounds like something the world needs to hear, but that i'm kind of tired of being reminded of. have fun!
Reposting because I didn't realize I was 498 in the last thread.
The Sisters updated.
4 Pages.
https://tapastic.com/episode/372097
http://thesisters-comic.com/
Introductions are had. And obvious threats loom. Plus Guy's there. The weirdo.
>>83628316
Give them an opinion or base them on someone cool. Craig would be boring as fuck if he wasn't blatant Zak Bagans. He'd just be another romantic partner getting pushed aside for powers type character; likely meant to have as boring a speech as anyone whose fucked a cape on a CW show. But he's Zak Bagansy instead, so he's not like that.
Give him something to play off too. Dan and Craig play off one another despite being radically different sorts of people; so when Dan is casting disparaging remarks at Craig, Craig is asking why Dan didn't wear the T-Shirt he made him. Just two friends bashing on one another like friends do.
It isn't hard to make someone interesting. Just find that dynamic that they shine in. A fisherman might seem boring as fuck to you, but if you get him drunk and he starts talking about having once slept with a girl back in the war and he starts cracking jokes about it; suddenly he's not just some fisherman while still being a guy who fits in a sailor archetype. Flesh things out without making it feel like there's an intimidating amount of depth.
These people exist within the world for people within the world, based on interactions with people in the world. Think like that and it gets a bit easier because it is less about writing someone who appeals to audiences and more about writing friends properly.
>>83642402
That's a chill little video.
>>83647703
As an art form it is low barrier to entry and over saturated, but so are most fields. Judge them by the best and ignore the worst. People don't consider Sonic OC Fanfic when they're talking about Steinbeck.
>>83648290
Nah, no one ''NEEDS'' to hear this. I'm not taking some grand stand with this thing. It's a story about the cruelness and ballsiness of the main characters rather than the horrors of the media and society.
>>83635534
>>83633489
How is being positive about your own work sad? I didn't say better than anyone else. You don't know it could have been 2 comments.
No wonder feel poster has moved in. You all deserve it.
>Pirated version of PS doesn't allow me to make text bubble because it's all sorts of fucked up
Anyone know any other ways to add em in using gimp or something? Would appreciate any help with this
>>83650051
pirate a better version. it's not exactly hard
>>83650123
Yeah but the whole process takes forever, and it's been too long since I've uploaded my last page
>when you want to work on y our comic but lose all motivation when you pick up the pen
>>83650183
well how were you doing them in the first place? photoshop has a lot of redundant tools, you could use a different one
like for example select, fill with black, go to selection - contract by however many pixels, fill with white
Wip.
>>83647619
Sweet.
>>83650275I've never done them, this is my first comic, and my first page with actual text. I'll try that though
>>83648764
I really dig the style of your comic. The slightly muted colors really help bring it down to earth too.
Correct me if I'm wrong but are you just hosting your comic on tumblr? Is it worth creating a website to host a webcomic or does anyone know if you should just stick to a webcomic hosting site?
Fuck it, tell me what you think, /hyw/:
http://wings-over-ethereal.thewebcomic.com/
I'm sick of lurking and being too scared to share. Tear my asshole apart if you have to.
>Spend 30 minutes drawing something
>Realize it's just going to be covered by something else in the panel
This is for Carrion Girls guy.
I had a dream where Skeggold had to combine her warrior skills with magic in a frightening and monstrous way to fight a robotic magic-hunting robot from the future. She was calling out instructions on what to do if things started going south to some girl who was not Skalmold but I believe an original character do not steal copyright my subconscious, as she headed off to fight, but then my roommate's dumb fucking dog started howling and woke me up just as it was starting to get good. That's it.
>>83651064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Qa2J4j3_8
>>83651090
that's why i started putting my woid bubbles in first
>>83651694
>nobody will ever dream about my characters
fucking feelsposter has ruined it but i like posting things like that once in a while. it's meant to be envy, describing something as an honor.
>>83651064
feel like i've stepped a lot further back in time than 8 years. But that's a good thing
shit i shouldnt criticize the art til i've skipped ahead to the current day, let's see...
oh
very little difference. well nothin wrong with that, don't fix what's not broken. i actually see you did fix one thing, early on you were drawing your eyes too high on the face, now you're not. well done.
man what ever happened to trying to tell big epic stories in webcomics? nobody does it anymore, but i feel like i used to really like them. the problem is getting really hooked when i'm just not how i used to be.. but i WANT to be like that again
>>83650592
>Worth creating a website to host a webcomic.
Yeah. Do that if you know how. Us at the Sisters just don't know tech to save our own lives, otherwise we would in a heartbeat. But we're glad you like the style.
>>83651799
Can't help it. I'm a sucker for edge.
>>83651990
>very little difference.
I went back and remade the old pages a few years ago. I know that's frowned upon since people tend to enjoy seeing artistic progression but it was REALLY bad. (I compromised by having a downloadable rar of the old pages available.)
Pic related is the true 2008 artwork.
>man what ever happened to trying to tell big epic stories in webcomics?
I've felt that way about lots of mediums these days, not just webcomics.
>>83647619
That's top tier action scene right there
My replacement tablet arrived yesterday so Ive been drawing non stop. Just finished this background for a work in progress comic.
I'm taking forever
>>83647619
Very nice!
There's a whole lot of the same poses and angles being repeated, though. Not a big problem in just one page, but I could see it getting a bit dull if you don't switch it up more in the long run.
what is the key ingredient to a successful webcomic
>>83656166
Lemon juice.
>>83656166
fans
>>83656166
waifus
How do I make almost entirely flat characters interesting?
>>83657228
how do you make shit that's not shit?
>>83657240
there's gotta be a way.
so many real people i've met would be completely flat if you had to tell a story where they're the primary focus. nonetheless their life story as a whole, and how perfectly it fits into telling a story about the nature of our world could quite possibly be interesting.
>>83656166
The big meme is a reliable schedule
As I don't make a webcomic or read webcomics, I cannot verify the veracity of this.
>>83657268
give us some examples of these people to give us an idea
>>83657282
Inconsistent update schedules are definitely a turn-off for me personally when I'm reading a new comic.
Unannounced hiatuses are worse, though.
how do you stay motivated to keep working on your webcomics?
post comics
>>83657774
Recently got fired from job as a web developer. I really don't want to go back into that field, so I'm putting all my effort into my comic and hoping for some patreon bux.don't try this at home this is a terrible idea
>>83658293
I write smut following my unemployment last month. Good luck, dude and keep at it. I'm rooting for you. Once you're your own boss, accountability is everything. Thankfully I have a few bitcoins in case I get in a bind.
>>83641968
Well, all the stuff I can find about depilatories in the rest of Europe seems to be from way after the viking age, and from what I can tell, while it was common in art (inspired by the Classical ideal?), its spread throughout the actual populace was much smaller (and it might have been considered shameful and low class because of its association with prostitutes, who shaved to avoid stuff like pubic lice).
Being a dark age culture, there's very little to say that the Norse didn't remove their body hair, but there's even less to say that they did. If they did so commonly, I'd expect razors to have been a common grave good for women, much like ear spoons and combs, but I'm pretty sure that isn't the case. I guess they could have used tweezers, but given the impracticality of doing so and how women wore clothing that covered up everything from the neck down so nobody would ever see anyway, I think it's more likely that the Norse just didn't care very much about hairlessness below the neck.
>>83658293
>he got fired
>>83658378
plus the norse were a hairy lot, have you ever seen a scandinavian girl's nipples?
Bump.
how do I love my comic when I can't even love myself?
>>83657228
Make them pretty.
>>83657774
By having so many stories planned that I'll probably die before finishing them all.
>>83652293
oh. so sometime between 2008 and when you went back and redid the 2008 ones, you started drawing eyes too high, and then sometime between then and now you stopped again
oh well, good show
>other media
yeah youre right. i was watching CLUTCH CANYON just for a laugh, and i remembered how even back during the stupid ages of animation, there was always serious drama for some reason. except it was terrible and boring. and now we need that and nobody's doing it
>>83654164
i choose to believe this is an out of focus near-upskirt shot
done page for now.
>tfw people always make fun of you're art and don't focus on the good parts
>>83657774
i just keep drawing every day and that gives me hope that one day i will become good enough to draw something that is not going to make me gringe the next day
also it's not like i have anything else to do with my life right now
what i lack is confidence i don't know how some people can just draw a comic for years without improving the art over the years, just the thought of something like that scares me
so all i can so is keep practicing until i reach the level that i want to have
>tfw people post stupid feels memes instead of webcomics
>>83663143
>>83657774
I don't really.
I'm seriously considering ritalin.
>>83657774
$2.5k a week on patreon helps shame i only release once a month
>>83663556
What do you do?
>>83663574
baited
>>83663597
Okay?
>>83663574
draw webcomicsthe dosh is for creating plushies thoughnon fuckable and fuckable
Ok, I've had this joke in mind for a while now, and I am so glad that I'm able to draw it out now.
It was originally gonna filler strip, but I'm really bad at getting to those.
>>83663618
that joke has been way overused lately
>>83663649
I have never seen a strip talk about a frog girl eating her own eggs.
>>83663671
harpy
snake
frog
and even for some weird reason chinchilas
its overused
>>83663671
let me see if i can find that harpygirl image
>>83663649
>>83663671
true, it's been way overdone with bird people, but i've never seen a frog doing it. also it's fucking cute. that stepladder. also she's supposed to be an akaname, so it's fun to be reminded she eats gross stuff.
>>83663618
5th panel you want to say 'i've been storing them'
cmon jack theyre not fertilized it's not weird.. at least i hope they aren't..
7th panel: performs* male's* and it doesn't make sense to say 'another human woman', just a human woman
9th: you're* missing an if between that and you
also yeah everyone should taste their own once..
>>83663707
well i think the few mammals that have periods usually do lick it up, since there aint nothin else you can do with it.
then again rabbits have to eat their own first-shit in order to make it into a proper second-shit later, so animals are not good role models
>>83656166
Lasagna
>>83663707
Well, still there's the punchline that implies that she thought Jack, and all males, eat their own sperm.
>>83663754
Thanks typo bro.
>have a dream about a /hyw/ comic
>post about it
>the author doesn't even acknowledge your existence
Page 5 pencils/roughs.
Highly likely to revise some of the dialogue; any suggestions for improvements will be appreciated.
Low energy this week, so behind schedule. Last weekend was disrupted with exhibiting at a local anime con, and pre- and post-convention preparation and recovery. (Covered costs, but sales on Sunday were practically non-existent.)
Also my Wacom pen is acting up, so I've had to spend a chunk of time fighting it to get it to behave. The primary nib has come down with a case of the flickering right-clicks; I can configure it to draw with the eraser end if necessary, but still, no need.
>just finished sending off my pitch to HW
Way too close to deadline, even though deadline is on the 15th.
I'm sure it's going to be a crazy hard ride even getting noticed since I'm a nobody and don't know anyone with a comic on there, but it motivated me to actually work on a lot of content for my webcomic.
>>83664468
hehe, back pocket
flickering right clicks eh? i've never had a tablet pen's rightclick button on the body behave properly but i've never had issues with the nib
i see no dialogue problems, but.. oy, have fun drawing that pile of manticorpses
Space Cunts 2
My comic is "Overfiend Comics" btw, there's a lot of stuff there but the site is shitty
>>83664823
hehehee. god dammit i laughed. how do you even
One more
>>83665089
okay that's it, i'm reading your archive
oh yeahh i remember your old stuff, you linked that before didn't you
>>83665108
I've linked two or three, a friend of mine I think might have shared it around.
>>83665130
i definitely recall the thomas the tanked engine ones
>>83665130
hey
hey
did you stop alt-texting part way through? because now i don't see any anymore but i wanna make sure it's not just me
I don't have any great objections to the dialogue, but I feel like the final panels are a bit weak. Tried doodling in what I'd do differently (couldn't express it well in writing), hope you can use it.
Maybe have Fili go "wait! I found one!" in the bottom right of panel 4, so 5 just has the punchline?
>>83665489
Yeah I forgot where and never got back to it :(
>>83665624
no prob, i'lll just stop checking.
>>83665608
>>83664468
I dunno, I think the joke works better when ending at Panel 6. It's already funny that the drop rate is so low; and that you know they'll have a large number of Manticores to kill, but past panel 6 I feel the joke goes on for two
>>83658293
Best of luck, Anon!
>>83657774
I feel kinda sad when I go a day without working on it; I knowing it's not even that great, it's one of the most fulfilling things I do. Plus I'm aiming for it to be a top-tier Epic Fantasy by the end, so I'm always happy to see noticeable improvement.
>>83648764
Just cough up with yours. I always feel like Sisters goes back so fast; I don't mean it as a negative, I mean that I'll always wait a month-or-two to binge read, but it's so good I'm always like "aww, done already?" by the end
>>83652052
You guys should really look up WordPress; I' technologically handicapped and even I can get a passable site from that. That said, Sisters reads really well in "scroll" format; mine does not.
>>83647619
Great to see some new people here, ESPECIALLY someone who can pull off such a great action scene
>>83657228
Large breasts are overrated anyway.
>>83666374
>the last one
i was waiting for SOMEONE to make that joke. i couldnt think of one myself.
>>83663611
So it really has nothing to do with webcomics.
>>83666374
Green Knight guy, is that you?
>>83666374
>goes by fast.
I know what you mean, and I'm sort of happy about that. We try really hard not to be meandering, and I think we only really get away with it due to our multi-page update dumps.
Where'd you last leave off and how'd you like the end of the first arc, if I can ask?
>wordpress
I tried. I did. I really ought to try again when I have a computer that isn't almost a decade old. I used to be really tech-savvy circa 2009. It is a skill I really need to get good at again, which is something I will attempt to revitalize once I can afford to build a new computer.
>large breasts are overrated.
Zing. And accurate.
>>83662378
Eeldog is cute.
>>83659809
Y'know, you manage to capture textures and exaggerated expressions to the point where I could see this as a Laika-styled stop motion piece.
Okay, so I've fixed the font and have tried to be smarter with my speech bubbles. Anything else I should try?
https://tapastic.com/series/FrICTION
I know the line work needs some tweaking, but that's all I can think of.
>>83666779
Ya, it's me
>>83666903
>Where'd you last leave off and how'd you like the end of the first arc, if I can ask?
Last I had read it was at the end of The Lies, right as Erin and "Connor" were about to get it on. As far as what I thought; I'm not overstating when I say I think it's the best comic in these threads (My favorite is Carrion Girls, but I'm looking at it from the perspective of someone who's perhaps not as into mythology and history as I am). As a first story arc, it really comes across something written and drawn by professionals. The top-notch character design already sets it apart, but your dialogues are so natural I could easily see this adapted into a TV drama.
Overall, the whole thing is just excellently paced: In the first three-or-so chapter, nicely start off as what fells was going to be "three magic sisters deal with the monster of the week", but from the point where Conard is revealed and onwards, things slowly start breaking down for the main character until the climax in the Truth. It feels like the sisters bit off a small piece of something MUCH bigger and I'm quite eagerly anticipating the next arc.
I know I sound like I'm fanboy-ing, but I do think your comic (along with Carrion Girls and Miss Melee to an extent) stand above the rest. What's perhaps more subconcious is that it does come across like you and your artist have a great dynamic together. You can somehow feel when the artist and the writer works rather distant from the writer, while here I don't feel that disconnect. Does your artist have a lot of input in the story, out of curiosity?
>>83667836
I feel like your current chapter has suffered from pacing problems, like there wasn't enough time between when they got their fish forms and when they started to save the boy.
>tfw there's a comic in /hyw/ that everybody loves but you just couldn't get into, not because of anything that you think was bad but just because it doesn't do it for you, and you feel bad for not liking it
>>83667949
Yeah, I hear ya; looking back I was trying to have too many things happen in JUST 18 pages which I think really came down to me combining two common merrow stories into one (the merrow that escapes into the human world because all the merrow men look like monsters, and the merrows who capture human souls and leave them in cages).
And I think just adding 1 extra underwater page would have made a great deal of difference; but alas, I'll try to avoid similar problems in the next chapters
>>83668294
pacing is so hard
i want to turn every panel into a comic, but i also want to turn every comic into a panel
>>83667836
> Does your artist have a lot of input in the story, out of curiosity?
Tons. I clear everything with him because ultimately this is our story and he gets to suggest the changes to the drafts and ultimately he handles paneling/framing. But we've been friends for seven-ish years now, so we get one another.
We bicker like an old married couple all the time. It is that sort of relationship.
But thank you for your statements, that sort of feedback helps.
>>83668504
>We bicker like an old married couple all the time
Well hello literally me and my artist.
I wonder if anybody gets that same vibe in >>83667836 with my comic. I hope they do, it feels like my artist and I work pretty well together.
>>83666903
Laika? Yeah, I guess I could see that, Paranorman style. Always thought "Carrion Girls the Movie" should be a 3D thing because I love high frame rates and you'd be able to cheat more than you could with stop motion.
>>83668702
I always imagined Carrion Girls the movie as one of those sorta-janky but with artistic charm Eastern European-style animated 2d movies.
>>83668806
Well, I don't know much about eastern European stuff. I guess I just don't see how the style would translate well to 2D animation unless you assembled a team of digital painters who've lost their minds to do something like The Old Man And The Sea but digitally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ih1IRIRxI
>>83669247
Painting was what I was thinking of.
>>83665608
The layout for panel 8's much better, with the heaps of manticorpses, and the "I stopped counting" line - thanks.
I'll keep panel 7 the same, as panel 1 is a call back to the previous page, and 7 is the reversal of that. Alternative caption: "One manticore genocide later..."
>>83666374
For story purposes, I need to show the quest completion, as that wraps up that sub-section.
At this point, I've got a final 2 page quest, with 1 page leading up to it, and a 2 page wrap up written. Due to the story structure, it would be fairly simple to just keep inserting quests, but then it'd look odd on the website to see the end of the TPoPPPC story on page 10, then see pages TPoPPPC 5.5a and 5.5b after that. But then the print collections have a different running order than the chronologically published website...
>>83668294
No reason you couldn't insert an extra page if (when) you make a collected edition.
>>83667155
Comic text generally uses only bold or italic for emphasis; it's never underlined.
Plan your lettering at the pencils/layout stage, so you can keep your font sizes consistent; it looks like you have some idea of what's going to be said, but then you try and force the text into the space that's available after inking, rather than making sure there's enough room to begin with. Also, while most of the lettering is anti-aliased, some of it isn't, as with Todd's first appearance.
Looks like you're using a soft edged brush in photoshop for the linework, which is making everything grey and hazy. A hard edged brush would be better.
>>83669706
Thanks man, I'll definitely look into it.
Since I finally got done with some of my latest commission work I've been able to start working on animation backgrounds again. Here's some set pieces I just "Finished" for the cityscape of the gypsy array. Critique is appreciated but considering these are literally in the background of a background I wont be changing anything too drastic.
>>83669706
If you're gonna keep panel 7 the same, I'd consider adding a panel between 7 and 8 for the "Quest complete!" box and their reaction to it. Having it separate from the reveal of just how many manticores had to die is a much better comedic rhythm, IMO.
Also, in panel 1, I think it might be a good idea to split up the caption so it's
>"We set out to find more manticores"
>image of attacking manticore
>"But mostly they found us."
Having the entire caption up front kind of spoils the joke.
>>83647619
Toguro?
>>83671624
No, volcanic rock guy who will appear later, since this is a fast forward moment in the beginning of the series.
>>83647619
As far as looks and choreography go, this is awesome.
My only nitpick is the transition between panel three and four. In panel four, the guy looks like he was simply pushed back by something as opposed to having JUST been punched really fucking hard by some muscly rock man thing. Based on the way his body is sent flying in panel 3, he ought to look like he's going to land on his side or stomach.
>>83651064
Ok m8, I'll be honest with you. A couple things: update your website layout for christ sakes. Hire somebody if you have to, cause this shit looks like it was made in the 90's.
I only skimmed some of your stuff because the artwork really turned me off, so I can't critique your writing. I just wasn't interested.
As far the as lineart goes it's passable, there are certainly worse examples on the internet that are more popular. Even if It works, you should still strive to improve; if you haven't already, go to /ic/ and read the sticky.
Your coloring is the worst offender however, it's atrocious. There's barely any color harmony going on in your pages. Worst of all, you don't add shading to the characters. If you're going to take anything from this post, I'd say that is the most important thing. Most of your backgrounds are dark, but there's no proper lighting/shading to reflect that, so your characters stick out in the worst way. You will most certainly find a wealth of info on this subject in the /ic/ sticky.
That's about all I'd say is objectively wrong with it, the rest is up to personal tastes. Study, practice, always try your best. Good luck, anon, I believe in you
Did any of you guys "make it"?
Feedback on these designs? they don't quite scream 'excitable teen girl' enough yet. Mally kinda does, but Lethe (on the left) doesn't enough yet.
>>83672851
oh and i'm aware of Lethe's horrid, horrid anatomy. working on it at the moment. i just rushed this in case posting goes down again
>>83672620
Topastic advertises with paying 2000$/month for anyone with a contract but that's probably a lie.
Even still I think there are at least a few arists who have emerged from these threads that can make a living off it. You'd probably get the same wage as a burger flipper but at least you're doing what you love.
>>83672620
Clearly define 'make it' so the goalposts can't be moved.
I'm still assembling a story, but I'm stuck on one stupid thing. What's a good term for people with super powers that isn't mutant, metahuman, or superhuman?
>>83673563
Achieved
Exceller
Unleashed
Developed
Postnormal / Abnormal or maybe 'abnorm' for short
Able
Supreme
Beyonder
Overman / Overhuman
Gifted
Capable (has a cape pun in it)
Skillman
>>83673245
All I need to make is $150 a week. I can do it.
Today I learned that I'm too thin-skinned for critique and that I'll be forever bad.
>>83674114
awesome, thanks!
>>83672851
>Lethe
Is she forgetful?
>>83674389her mom forgot to take the pill
>>83674171
what happened? did someone hurt your feelings today?
>>83675414
that's just a spammer. we're lousy with 'em. just ignore. you'll get used to their same 5 or 6 images eventually
>>83675438
Epic reply. Keep policing this dead-ass general, you're the hero we all need.
Postcomics.
>>83675733
>working on comics
>on a FRIDAY NIGHT
are you virgins even trying to not be losers?
>>83675818
>Not working whenever you can
Confirmed for never making it.
>>83676144
>implying any of you will ever make it
Just play video games or watch a movie instead of toiling away on something that means nothing.
>>83675818
lol this thread isn't really meant for people with IQs of 60, maybe you should go hit on drunk chicks or something.
>>83647455
http://romanpenscomics.blogspot.com/
can i get a review?
>>83676449
awful layout. i'd change it asap
comic's cute. i enjoy this kinda stuff. seems to start out in the middle of things though. little hard to follow.
>>83676627
oh i see why, each update has multiple pages, in order from top to bottom, but the updates are in order from bottom to top
so yeah, even worse layout than it was when i said it was awful
>tfw almost want to throw away my HW submission because the due date is close and I'm still so far
please help me find my motivation again
>>83659809
>new carrion girls
>>83668383
That's a nice analogy for it.
I've sad it before; if I were updating twice-thrice a week, I'd probably make every chapter twice as long just to get more world building, humor, and longer action scenes in there...
But as it stands, I don't want chapter to last much longer than 4 months-worth of updates.
>>83669706
>No reason you couldn't insert an extra page if (when) you make a collected edition.
Eh, it's a nice daydream, but there's so many more stories I want to tell I probably wouldn't even have the time
dead thread, dead comics
Bump!
Probably nothing worth commenting on this page right now. The composition for the 5th panel literally came to me in a dream so that's nice.
>>83679748
ohgosh.jpg
Still no internet at home - apologies for what's effectively another drive by.
http://vigormortis.co.uk/
New page today! What do you guys think?
>>83682979
I think your posts could use a bit of variation.
Good page otherwise, shame the awkward hands in panel 2 are really distracting because you usually draw them well
>>83682979
The balloon for "You missed..." isn't quite making a tangent with the panel border, but it's pretty close.
There's a line that naturally guides the eye through panel 5, going from MM's eyes and through the upper arm and middle brick work. The end of that would be a good place to move the balloon in panel 6.
>>83682979
The rhythm of this page made me chuckle. I like how we see the moment from Jackie's point of view.
>>83683105
I don't mind the hands, even though now that you mention it, they are a bit wonky.
>>83682979
>Jackie
should i wait until i'm not depressed to start posting a comic?
or start early with the associated risks of stutters where i don't update and saying embarrassing things
>>83687773
Well, your depression isn't ever really gone, so it might be better to think of it as "getting started dealing with your depression while publishing" or "think you're ok and start publishing then have it pop up in the middle of your schedule and dealing with it for the first time" then
>>83682979
The only thing I'd change is the last panel. As a reader, I'm inclined to read her dialogue first, then her expression, THEN back to Jackie's exclamation. I'd suggest moving Jackie's dialogue to directly above her mom's head, it'll definitely flow better and it makes sense, since it'll convey how she's looking towards Jackie at the same time she hears her.
This panel is kind of tight, so moving the dialogue will be tricky, maybe you'll want to move the pov back a bit to give it room.
>>83687773
If it's situational then you could wait. If you have chronic depression and/or mental illness I wouldn't. I've had my first OCD relapse in three years and I've had to come to terms with the fact that what I am living with is chronic and not something I can grow out of but rather live with and be prepared for. Good luck.
>>83682979
Why would MM be surprised that her daughter, who she knows is in the car, is shouting her name? It seems more like that's something she'd actively try to ignore while she's in the zone. And the reaction she's giving doesn't really telegraph the idea that the girl is in trouble, so if that's the reveal you're going for it doesn't work here.
Also in the 3rd panel; the KRASHH panel, the boom going on doesn't seem to be large enough given how the guy is positioned and the distance from the wall/window he was just thrown out of.
>send your comic's link to a friend to read
>your archive is a few dozen strips
>check analytics later
>only one view from him
>>83689475
This is the first one to make me laugh out loud.
>>83682979
if she doesn't figure it out this time then she's a dense little gymnast
>>83666560
the plushie keeps my webcomic afloat
What's the best way to learn how to draw? I've tried all the "how to draw" and anatomy books and Andrew Loomis but they're all for people with a skillset above mine. I can't even draw emotive stick figures.
Should I just accept that it's one of those skills I'll never have?
>>83690281
How to draw books generally assume that you want to learn how to draw properly because you're already enjoying it.
If you're really just starting out, the best thing is to just draw a lot, so draw whatever you enjoy drawing and don't worry too much about the quality. Once you have some basic experience you can take it more seriously with books etc.
>>83690518
The problem is that my interest isn't actually in illustration, but storytelling with sequential images.
I write. I can draft panels, sequences, perspectives, camera and text placement. Actually drawing something that doesn't look like shit is the only bit I'm missing, and I don't enjoy doing it.
>>83690058
how do you create plushies? handmade?
>>83690716
maybe look into 3D modeling?
>>83690817
Eww. Have you seen the glut of terribad 3d comics out there?
>>83690716
If you can handle perspective and the like then that doesn't sound like you're actually below the level for most how to draw books.
What are you struggeling with? Do your drawings not look as good as the examples? That's pretty normal. Or do you have trouble understanding what the author is trying to teach you?
>>83691081
yeah i know. if they want to utilize those other skills while learning how to draw, using models to practice may help.
anyone still working on their Hiveworks pitch? am I the last one?
>create setting
>create character designs and vague roles
>can't actually create personalities, accurately work out how those personalities would interact, or think of individual storylines involving those characters.
don't think i'm cut out for storytelling.
>>83692405
The deadline's in 4 days, anon. Most of us have already submitted ours.
>>83692597
>Most of us have already submitted ours.
I feel like the last kid in class who hasn't turned in his paper. Anxiety/stress mounting, please help
>>83692756
that's because you are the last kid you retard. hurry up or give up you lazy fuck
>>83690716
I'm an artist who primarily draws and I can tell you that writing and layouts are the parts of the work that have the most impact. If you can draw things very well, that's great, but you only need the fundamentals to deliver a story.
Use a very simple style that you can keep consistent and it's going to work.
>>83692534
Give us some papyrus scribbles, brother. Perhaps we can help youpander
>>83692756
I'm also still working on my pitch document! It's okay, Anon, you're not the last one. I'm probably only going to get this submitted on the 14th. You won't even be the worst one! I am lowering the bar for everyone by submitting a literal stickman comic, you are not the Class Retard.
>>83692756
If you turn it in on the last day, the Hiveworks boys will think less of you for it.
>>83692992
>>83692799
can't you guys just post a soothing song or something
>>83692970
thanks friend, please submit it no earlier than the 14th so I won't be the last one
>>83693046
>>can't you guys just post a soothing song or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k
>>83693046
>this retard thinks I'm joking
It's perfect that you chose to chase webcomics. The low bar of entry and the successful flukes you see inspire you with false confidence. And so we get a bunch of lazy idiots, who even in the end when cornered by their own laziness, still seek some emotional out. Still looking for some last minute way to procrastinate, like some stupid song is going to matter when really you should fuck off and put the pen to the tablet. Such half hearted motivation can only create garbage.
Just kill yourself after you submit it. It's the only way anyone will care about your shitty pitch.
>>83693217
But what if by some lucky fluke as you put it, Hiveworks accepts his comic? He won't be able to continue it when he's dead.
>>83689017
I dunno, I think that was supposed to be the point. That Janice did not prepare for this situation. From Janice's point of view, Jackie probably became a teenage fangirl overnight -- you know, how parents forget sometimes how fast kids grow and miss obvious things. I think the scene where she wakes Jackie for school seems to imply that Jackie's interest with Miss Melee is relatively new, and Janice had not noticed it. Perhaps she really didn't realize Jackie will not stay in the car like she was supposed to, when she sees her idol kicking ass in the parking lot. Perhaps Janice thought she could just deal with the robbers unnoticed, like an addict thinks: one more shot before the grocery store.
Clearly she hasn't met her family as Miss Melee personally before, and perhaps she thought it would stay that way -- until Jackie became obsessed with superheroes.
Well, only the creators know for sure, but that's the way I see it.
>>83693310
Laziness like that is incurable and pathetic. He should kill himself anyways.
http://luckyhazard.thecomicseries.com/
FOUR page update! end of chapter 7!
>tfw you get a new supporter on Patreon
>tfw want to post comic but don't want to get bullied
>>83693657
we'll probably bully you for posting this.
>>83693650
>tfw someone uploads an image to /co/ at the same exact time you do and the images get swapped so a post that was meant to contain a Wojack contains something else entirely
>>83693650
It might be me. I just found a comic through this thread today.
>>83693657
>>83689475
>>83674171
>>83668127
>>83663951
>>83662558
>>83650263
STUPID PATHETIC FUCKING FEELS POSTER!!! I HATE YOU SO MUCH!!!
Every time I see one of these sad sack posts I go into turbo butt mad. I had enough of hearing this sad whiny shit in school, it fucking triggers me to no end. The sheer amounts of fucking whiny shits with no work ethic or drive who I see crying about shit like this day in and day out makes me want to set myself on fire.
But I won't, I'm gonna channel this rage into working on thumbnails like a fucking sane human and stop screaming on the internet about spammy shitposts
>>83694070
>Art thread
>mad that there are whiny sack of shits
Artists are always emotional sack of shits
>>83694070
>tfw you aren't as motivated as this guy
>>83693712
Honestly I think Invader Zim screenshots are better than the average Wojack.
>>83694144
Not just in the thread, I mean in my life in general. Some artists shut the fuck up and have crazy amounts of output and make tons of work, others cry and whine about how bad their art is and how they'll never get a job as the head of a cartoon studio despite the fact that their art looks like hot garbage and they never studied or focused enough in school. It's fucking atrocious.
>>83694148
REEEEEEEEEEE
>>83694070
>makes me want to set myself on fire.
THEN DO IT
WHERE'S YER DRIVE GAAAAAAAWD DAMMIT?
>>83694070
>tfw there's more than one of you
>>83694299
My urge to create outweighs my urge to destroy.
>>83694320
god
dammit
>>83694070
Not feelsposter, but someone with absolutely no work ethic or drive. Allow me to explain:
Through my life, from entering school to leaving high-school, I never had to put serious effort into anything. I was sufficiently smart that I never had to study to get good grades, and could simply coast to success on that.
Those days are over. Now, every option ahead of me requires effort. The other kids had to study, they built up work ethic because the work wasn't easy. They picked a career and worked towards it by doing the required classes, I coasted on picking classes I could passwhich weren't all useless, but had no coherent end in sight. I even did Physics.- After all, I'll decide on a career later.
Well now I'm in trouble, you see, because it turns out being smart isn't worth anything without work ethic, and it turns out those kids who started off dumb developed equal intellect alongside work ethic.
So you see why I might be a little upset. I was sold the illusion that because I was smart, I would go far, when in reality luck and work ethic are far more important. I got used to tackling problems with ease, and once I find one that cannot be tackled with ease I crumble or attempt to bypass it entirely.
But where do we go back to? At what point could I have changed anything? The path I took was the rational one given the circumstances I faced. There was no need to take hard courses, I wasn't so smart that the classwork bored me to the point of becoming disruptive, nor was I just smart enough for it to be difficult. Anything that would've built work ethic would've been irrational from my perspective at the time.
I'm not bragging. This is the opposite of bragging. My starting point of being slightly smart has doomed me because now I'm 20. While most other people have had around 15 years of building work ethic, I'm 15 years behind. Now I'm waking up to find the tortoise is nearing the finish line.
So don't be mad. Take pity and ignore.
>>83694504
>20
mother fucker now is the time to start
>>83694504
No, fucker! I'm gonna stay mad becausethat's essentially where I am, too. I'm 22, a chronically depressed college dropout, and all of my friends have multiple mini comics and webcomics while I find it difficult to muster up the courage to even try and make my own work because it keeps coming out like garbage. Almost all of my friends are at CAKE right now meeting people and having fun selling their tons and tons of books and prints while I'm sitting here too depressed to move. The only upside is that I don't often complain about it, and not moving means not being able to find anything to kill myself with.That's why I get so upset when people, perhaps even younger than me, are shitposting on here when they could be here or on /ic/ LEARNING and MAKING THINGS even if they're bad, they could have SOMETHING. And then they could build on that and be good.
>>83694892
>they could be here or on /ic/ LEARNING and MAKING THINGS
Without willpower? How could they do that without turning to the much easier option of posting here about
>Tfw you will never make a comic and just entertain the fantasy to avoid facing down the fact you're not ever going to do anything because doing things requires doing things.
Are there any good fan webcomics about popular characters? Not necessarily superheroes but if you know of anything like that I'd be interested.
>>83695197
>fan webcomics
Finally got an update ready!
I start now a two week break from work, so I'll try to use that time to get this chapter done and start the new projects I've been practising for lately.
It seems since that I announced that I will shut down the site where I currently host this, people started visiting more often, wtf.
>>83672851
Once I finish the crossover, I'll draw them for sure, they look 2cute5me
>>83647619
good composition
Bad colors
Yu Yu Hakusho ripoff move.
Protip: If you want to make glowy energy shit and fire in photoshop.
protip: for glowy shit in photoshop gradient maps are your best friend.
>>83695197
Hannah Blumenreich makes some good Spidey comics.
>>83695679
Good advice. Color choices has always been a tricky thing for me.
>>83694070
One of those wasn't even a feels poster.
>>83695679
sorry i didn't finish the middle sentence there.
If you want to make glowy fire and stuff in photoshop just apply a gradient map to a black layer with the screen blending mode, then paint white with a pressure sensitive brush.
>>83695888
Ok, i'll play with that.
I've wanted to do everything in Manga Studio 5 though and it's different with it's painting tools, so would it be the same method in that program too?
>>83647455
http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=115269
http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=115270
If anybody's interested i made a couple of photorealistic pencil brushes for Manga studio/ Clip Studio Paint
>>83696169
I have no idea. I don't even know if MS does gradient maps. Personally I'd use MS for drawing and Photoshop for coloring.
>>83696196
forgot example image
I couldn't sleep so I worked on something
>>83696169
>>83696222
Yes - MS5 (Clip Studio Paint) does Gradient Maps.
Layer -> New Correction Layer -> Gradient Map
>>83696272
Thanks, bro.
This week we continue the cat story and then move on.
>>83696272
>>83695679
But yeah, thanks again for the help. I'm a drawer, and not a painter, outside of just doing greyscale. I'll apply those types of tricks for futures pages, just for now I want to get used to cranking out pages in a timely pace.
Hey /hyw/! Finally posting something to actually add content to the threads.
I finally started to come up with a few ideas that's boiled down to a bunch of short comics in the form of a series with a few characters of mine. I don't know how many stories I'll do but all of them will work on you understanding each character without relying on a sheet or anything like that. So here's a WIP of the first page of my first story: A "typical" day with a Justice League type deal with a leader who's between 7-11.They're digimon. Been on a huge 6 year digimon kick lately.
Any comments or concerns with the art?
added more jokes in the background. Opinions?
>>83694336
aww
>>83694504
pretty sure you're me.
you did the right thing, there was nothing else you could have done. this is your punishment for being better. just try to be satisfied in it.
>>83694434
they want attention. don't give it to them
>>83695669
Woo more art from you is always welcome
that mom is rocking a pretty sweet mullet
>>83694892
you guys are too young to be complaining about this. burning out at 30 is a lot worse. there's still time to develop a work ethic... go on dates..
>>83696262
aww kangaroos
>>83696394
aww cats
>>83696985
unreadably tiny, aside from compliance is happiness. which is great
reminds me of the READING IS KITTY poster from Bizarre Uprising.
the black hole one isnt as funny, i'd change it to 'aim for the stars, only by moving at interstellar speeds can you avoid the crushing inevitability of entropy'
>>83696985
>crowley junior high
Is this lore? Will that name be important later?
>>83698201
Yes this is lore.
>>83698662
Tell me more.
How are you guys outlining/storyboarding your story before putting it on paper? Ive tried writing plot points down on a piece paper. I usually ask a question like "How does X happen?" and then I jot down whatever ideas I have under it, and then see how much I could connect it with the current story progress.
What are some questions I should be asking myself when making a story? And how do you guys outline?
>>83699002
>ask yourself questions
thaaat is smart. i need to start doing that
>>83699002
You write a script, right?
>>83699002
My process kind of goes like this;
>Get ideas in my head for character/panel placement
>What are people saying on this page, the next, page, etc.
>Start to write a draft/outline of the dialogue
>Preliminary thumbnails
>Fine tuning outline, turning it more into a movie-ish script
>Finalize thumbnails
>Start working on pages
Some minor things I might change on the fly, if need be. People always say that your comic script drafts should work like movie scripts, and you should think about them in that way before going into the actual pages.
>>83697520
Thanks decided to draw another page while ink is drying
>>83699421
love some macropods
>>83699002
>How are you guys outlining/storyboarding your story before putting it on paper?
Story structure
Chapter structure
Scene script
Page outlines
Panel outlines
Rough draft (characters, object, speech placement)
Background draft
Final illustrations
Typesetting and sound effects
>What are some questions I should be asking myself when making a story?
Ask "Would I be interested in this story if I wasn't writing it?"
If you look at it with an outsiders perspective and it doesn't compel you, rewrite.
Almost done with the last page in this chapter. Posting a couple panels that are progressing well.
>>83700457
>>83700457
>>83700488
Forgot to mention that I'm looking for guest comics to run between chapters if anyone has the time.
>>83699002
I uh... actually don't have an outline. I have a complicated plan, but I typically memorize stuff rather than writing it out properly.
>>83665624
heyyy god dammit you DID get back to it. now i've been missing them for god knows how long
>>83702389
then you went and stopped again ya wanker
Jumping back and forth with my two projects today, plus, been doing some more light-hearted ''ghost writing'' for a friend, I guess. At least I assume I'll stay as a ghost.
Anyway, I've been trying to figure out a slowly progressing drug addiction story line for my occult detective comic. My main character uses drugs to tap into the supernatural realms of the world, but isn't always sure if what he sees is a hallucination or something actually supernatural. It's been really fun to write him spiraling down and being confused when his own reality just doesn't hold up so well, and occasionally stabs him in the back big-time.
Also I've been playing around with an idea of him learning to become a dad for his cousin's son. I really want to throw the cousin in prison, and drop the kid on my MC's lap for a while.
I'm just so in love with my characters and the writing overall right now. That's probably why I want to take a break so bad, so I wouldn't become too blind to my own writing mistakes.
How do you guys keep your comics in check? Take breaks? Show your comics around to get feedback? Tell me. I'm an ear.
prodgeressh
wip on page 5 so far
progress is slow because motivation is a scarce resource
Finished this page!Now I can finally go back to playing overwatch for the rest of the night. Never played a game so addicting since TF2.
>>83703034
Sora keeps changing size from panel to panel again.
>>83703294
meh, who cares about Sora?
>>83703585
Not you!
I am done coloring.
Now, To write dialogue and correct grammar mistakes.
>>83702584
I almost always ask a couple friends to take a look at my pages because I'm a shutin neet whos shits all retarded, so I have a poor grasp on writing dialogue or regular people in general.
When drawing a page, or writing a larger scene, I generally complete a first draft before returning the next day to change things I was blind to the day before. I don't take extended breaks.
Don't really care about my characters beyond their roles in the story, I'm more of an atmosphere and environments guy.
>>83703034
the silent panel adds a lot of humor for me , haha
Gosh, You gave me hope.
Is this a good design for a monster?
>>83710053
could use a wacky tongue
here's the chapter cover for Part 3 of the comic!
despite its looks, the next chapter will be slice of life-y.
>>83657774
I just fuckin' do it. Who gives a shit if I don't wanna make a comic today. Nobody WANTS to do anything but if you've got to do something then you just DO IT.
>>83710190
>that boat head
>that fishing hook
subtle
>>83710053
>i can fap to this
>>83679544
It's not that late come on man. All you need to do is a couple of pictures and a brief synopsis. You focus too much on avoiding rejection instead of having the submission be the goal itself. I'm submitting mine today, and we finished most of the submission during the past couple of days. The point is to submit your work to many places all the time and improve in the art of pitching. Also creating the pitch document helps to clarify the story for yourself as well.
>>83711978
it's too late now to submit. They've received too many and are discarding the rest. I have insider information, so anyone still working on it is wasting their time now.
