>eat meat
>stomach gurgles for hours
why do we eat this stuff?
>>7878930
>He has fucked up is gut flora so bad he can't digest foods
>Literally cripling himself for a meme
kek
>have unique gi issue
>generalize it as though everyone suffers from poor genes
Why do you do this kind of thing?
>Get sick from eating shrimp
>Blame god and forbid everyone else from doing it
OY VEY
>>7878930
>eat raw beans
die
>eat raw rice
get salmonella
>eat raw meat
your stomach gurgles
>>7878930
causes taste, and i guess if youre starving you can get a good amount of calories in. other than that it has no nutritional value.
>>7878983
> meat has no nutritional value
cabbage for brains
>>7878986
what makes meat better than vegetables, legumes, or fruit in terms of nutrition. also considering meat is supplemented with b12 rather than having it naturally it isnt even a good source for that. the only bit of 'nutrition' it has is hurrrr my proteins. also a bean/wheat protein combination is absorbed better and more efficiently than protein from meat. i eat meat and i like it but dont act like its healthy. adding meat to everything just cause is a part of the reason why the west is fat.
I do find I pee more when I eat a lot of meat. any reasons for this?
>>7879011
too much protein is taxing on your kidneys. also could be because meats are heavily seasoned which usually means tons of sodium
>>7879003
fatty acids and cholesterol are actually useful to your body
>>7879026
are you retarded? omega 3/6 as well as lysine come from plants, you really only need a handful of nuts, or a cup of beans, but fatties complain about consuming 'monumental' amount of vegetables to get these nutrients. also nice keto cholesterol myth with no substantial studies to back it up.
>>7879035
there is sufficient science that suggests it is resulting in more testosterone production.
>>7879003
Carninutrients like taurine
>>7879055
vegans have been recorded to have the highest testosterone, without the disease that correlate with high test like prostate cancer.
>>7879076
were not cats and we produce taurine on our own desu. no one is saying dont eat meat but dont make it out to seem healthy cmon
>>7878930
This whole thread is fucking vegan bait and you grognards feel for it.
Goddammit, /ck/
>>7879113
>feel
>>7879113
t. people that think burger, no bun is healthy
>>7879108
synthesizing enough to survive =/= enough for optimal health and performance
>>7879003
>vegans think saccharides dindu nuffin
>>7879125
taurine is the most abundant amino acid produced by humans. excess consumption does nothing for it.
>>7878930
Yeah, meat is not a healthy thing to eat, its just that it is so mildly unhealthy no one thinks of it as truly unhealthy.
All scientific studies these days are pointing to the saturated fats in red meats being just as bad as transfats. Some evidence seems to point to our cardiovascular system needing about 8 hours to recover and start behaving normally after eating meat. (There is small amounts of swelling/inflamation that happens for a while) It is suspected that this happens because of the billions of common bacteria that live inside of meat (and even our own bodies - though different types). Since most americans eat meat less than every 8 hours, (not counting sleeping periods) the average cardiovascular system of an american is always slightly inflamed. This is thought to add to CVD and specifically atherosclerotic risk factors to a large degree.
I don't eat very much meat anymore because the science just says its really bad for you.
Also - we kill over 8 billion chickens a year. The manure produced from chicken farming alone could cover/fertilize an area the size of almost a sixth of the US. If you add hog and cow farming and the waste produced from that it's over a quarter of the US. (and we don;'t have that much farm lank - this is destroying several eco systems and it is not being reported on)
>>7879138
>part of the reason
also not vegan
>>7878930
>>eat meat
>>stomach gurgles for hours
Sounds like a malnourished child born from a malnourished mother feeding her kid a soy-based diet.
>>7879140
>taking out of your ass
>>7879142
if meatlessness is good, why did populations that adapt for it have raised risks for the same diseases you insist it avoids?
http://www.medicaldaily.com/vegetarian-plant-based-diet-genetic-mutation-cancer-risk-380079
>>7879142
yeah if you say meat is unhealthy people literally fucking riot and get so defensive, but fi time comes ut with an article saying butter is healthy everyone accepts it without question nd is happy to be pat on the ass for giving themselves heart disease. ignorance is still bliss i guess
>>7879096
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent
>>7879158
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12514918
>Specific groups of individuals are at risk for taurine deficiency and may benefit from supplementation, e.g. patients requiring long-term parenteral nutrition (including premature and newborn infants); those with chronic hepatic, heart or renal failure.
everyone else is fine, so no you dont need taurine
>>7879166
comes out with* jesus
>>7879161
whered you get that bullshit map at? also these are all basically third would countries and the majority of them are vegetarian, not vegan. veganism has been linked to decreasing cancer
>>7879161
Your article says it itself:
“[Those with an ancestral history of vegetarianism] would do perfectly well, as long as they avoid some foods that are vegetarian but high in omega-6, specifically plant-based oil,” Keinan wrote in an email. “More in general, vegetarians in industrialized countries tend to rely heavily on plant-based oil, which is rich in omega-6, and can lead... to inflammation-related diseases.”
And you shouldn't consume much plant oils anyway so there's nothing new here.
>>7879096
>pubmed warrioring shit to support your opinion after the fact
that's an opinion piece and not the current state of the science for disease prevention and performance enhancement in healthy populations, you pseud retard
>>7879035
pretty sure the omega 3 in plants is not usable by humans. except algae possibly.
>>7879184
are your retarded? walnuts are considered one of the best sources. fish companies just sell you fish oil pills to make a profit off unusable parts also please explain why the only animals that can develop heart disease similar to the way humans do are herbivores. carnivores and omnivores are at no risk of developing fatty streaks in their arteries no matter how much fat and met they consume.
>>7879184
flax
>>7879020
>protein is taxing on your kidneys
Nice meme
https://twitpl.us/f8Jb
>>7879182
im sorry over 100s of studies linking meat to disease isnt enough for you to think and make your own educated choice and go 'hmm it just might not be all that healthy' sad you need to be spoon fed. cigarettes were proven to cause cancer 40 years before anyone ever said it. you have access to all these studies, you should use them.
>>7879035
You made a claim that meat has no nutritional value other than protein. Not that you can get the same value from other things. You are pulling out some hilarious mental gymnastics.
I feel bad for Inuits that have had to live on meat their entire life. How do they survive past infancy with such an unhealthy lifestyle. I didn't notice too many nut bearing trees in Alaska the last time I was there. They might as well be consuming nothing but cigarettes considering how bad you are suggesting meat is.
>>7879113
Learn to enjoy the ride. True, It could be bait. But I don't doubt that some people really have these opinions, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Even if they are trolls, lets see how long they can play devils advocate. You should spend some time in /tg/, troll threads turn into serious discussions all the time.
How often does /ck/ get vegan shitpost?
/Fit/ use to get vegan gains thread everyday this time last year
>>7879200
nice cherry picking through all the reports that say otherwise. i can link you a doctor who says its true and im just as right according to your logic
>>7879193
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2013639/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9389784/
Pigs, mice, and baboons are omnivores and develop atherosclerosis also
I'd really rather have a life where I don't block off any avenues of the culinary experience to live a year or two longer.
>>7879207
I don't suppose the vegans on /fit/ suggest that meat is nutritionally void. Do they?
>>7879211
ahh puffer fish
>>7879208
>my logic
Nah anon, just your lousy interpretation of it
How about you link an actual argument/evidence instead of authoritatively appealing to 'reports' and 'doctors'?
>>7879209
all of your examples are omnivore whose diet is 95% plant based if not more. theyre classified as omnivores when in reality the most meat they eat is a small amount of bugs, literally less than a cup a year, unless theyre starving and surrounded by worms. if anything that just proves they have more of an herbivorous diet. tigers eat grass but that doesnt mean theyre omnivores.
>>7879216
They suggest everything from meat causing ED to giving people super pikey aids. They posted about Lexi Belle being vegan and that you should go vegan for a chance with some porn slut. Kek
>>7878930
>eat meat
>stomach gurgles
Maybe some people really are born as homosexuals
>>7879003
> something humans, and hominids before us have eaten for millions of years is unhealthy
only happens to me with too much pork
>>7879233
>all of your examples are omnivore
1st link documents hyenas, wild cats, and sea lions (carnivores)
2nd link documents domestic cats (also carnivores)
Depending on the local habitat pigs and mice can have a diet with a fair amount of insects and carrion. Baboons in high social rank hunt frequently
>>7879166
It's called confirmation bias. People are always accepting of convenient truths, while inconvenient ones have to be proven over and over and over again for low IQ man-children to even begin to listen.
It's also a tradition thing.. so its just difficult to stop doing a habit.
I try not to eat meat too often anymore.. but even with all the evidence - i still do from time to time because its just so damn tasty.
>>7879161
>http://www.medicaldaily.com/vegetarian-plant-based-diet-genetic-mutation-cancer-risk-380079
This is pretty straight forward, if eating meat causes cancer (and all the science does point to that) - then you would expect to see a resistance to cancer start to build up in populations that eat meat and you wouldn't expect that same thing to happen in vegetarian cultures.
If meat is killing people - then the population that can live and continue to breed will have offspring that are also likely to be resistant to diseases caused by meat.
This is why when you take the american diet and you give it to people in india - like 99% of the get CVD and diabetese. Americans have already had several generations (and our european ancestors had more than that) to start to build up a resistance, and our cvd and diabetese numbers are still shit but they are better than those poor indian bastards with no chance at adapting over time to the diet.
globalism is wildly dangerous - its basically forcing a million different scientific experiments on billions of people all at the same time.
>>7879209
Nigga don't even bother posting your studies without independent reproductions.
>>7879285
Indians being vegan is a hoax.
>>7879166
there is literally nothing wrong with butter
>>7879289
Yeah so let's make up baseless bullshit that only herbivores get atherosclerosis instead. Much more productive and scientific.
>>7879325
http://www.dhaomega3.org/Overview/Conversion-Efficiency-of-ALA-to-DHA-in-Humans
>>7879285
>then the population that can live and continue to breed will have offspring that are also likely to be resistant to diseases caused by meat.
not if said diseases only strike past primary reproductive age.
>>7879330
yeah, it says the conversion is worthless. did I miss something?
>>7879285
spinning that article was impressive but your conjecture is false. It is not getting the natural fatty acids from meats and adapting to synthesize from plants is what makes them get potbellies, in addition to being stuffed with feedlot quality carbs
>>7879297
most indians aren't even vegetarian. going to an indian restaurant should make that clear.
>>7879355
maybe it's to appeal to SWPL and their predator pallate?
>>7879399
if so there would be more beef and less goat.
anyway, even the veggie indians eat tons and tons of dairy, which is probably even harder on you than meat. the same excess protein and saturated fat of meat, plus bonus cow hormones.
>>7879246
Didn't Lexi Belle get fat? Was that before or after she started going vegan?
>>7878930
that has never happened to me. Eat more meat and this will go away.
>>7878983
you may be the the biggest idiot on 4chan...lol @ "no nutritional value"
By the way, do you know what has no nutritional value?
LETTUCE
>>7879003
its not just protein in that there meat ya dummy.
>>7879142
are reading shit from the 90's man!? Meat is exceptionally healthy.
>>7878930
just eat yeast and it'll go away.
>>7879205
The average inuit lives to be like 40 years old my man.
>>7878977
>eat raw beans
>die
??????????
>>7879550
Kidney beans can off you if you don't cook them at a high enough temp long enough
>>7878930
>I'm a pussy Asian (probably) who can't digest meat
Literally the only food my stomach gets pissy over is a surplus of nuts, and by that I mean like eating a whole bag in one sitting and even then it just stomach cramps for an hour or so.
>>7878930
>eat 1/4 a jar of pickles
>shit myself for the first time in my life at age 24 when i fart
>basically live in the bathroom shitting out stomach acid for 3 hours
>>7879620
i want to do this as like a mock cleanse or something
>>7879540
That is because they live in the fucking arctic, hunt regularly and don't have access to medical care like first worlders do, you dunce.
Their unvaried diet is only a small part of that.
These people have survived for thousands of years where only hyperspecialized animals could survive.
Sure, they're not that weird city in Italy with all those 100+year old people, but they were doing fine.
Is /ck/ having another argument where some troll claims that eating nothing but raw seal liver for your entire life is the cure to everything, and everyone else tries gets mad?
never change, /ck/
>>7879623
It will cleanse your fucking soul, I do not recommend it. Shitting stomach acid is pretty fucking terrible.
I thought it was just a me thing, but when I googled it I got a great greentext from 4chan from a while back of a guy having the similar thing happen.
>Major in Biology
>See these dumb vegan cunts spewing their bullshit
>Get tired of explaining how biochemistry works
Just pls stop.
>>7879741
Neat, as a biology major can you explain how eating nothing but raw seal liver your entire life is a good idea? Like, why bother with all these icky vegetables? It's PETA's fault I have to eat broccoli, isn't it
They even got to the President
>>7879745
It's not.
>>7879620
That's what you get for liking pickles
>>7879161
Because your mother never loved you.
>>7879184
>he thinks linolenic is unusable by humans
laughingwhores.swf
>4 pounds of salt
>blame everyone
fucking die
Gayest thread this side of the milky way.
So your stomach is a bitch to match you?
>>7879745
what the fuck is the ironic strawman in this post
>>7879177
Actually vegans are more likely to get cancer also vegans don't live that long compared to omnivores.
>>7879745
Ok anon, you sure proved me wrong there by literally claiming that they eat seal liver their entire lives. >>/reddit/
>>7878930
OP watch this movie.
There is a group of highly regarded medical doctors and scientific researchers who have complied decades upon decades of dietary/nutritional intake / together with historical health data on millions of people across the globe and it all indicated that the classical "meat and Potatoes" diet favored by the western world (specially America) is a leading cause of illness and disease.
And that a eating a well balanced, plant based whole food diet is way more healthy and nutritious, without harmful any effects.
In many documented cases it has been shown to reverse serious health issues.
This data also shows conclusively that red meat is particularly bad.
>>7880867
>compare prostate cancer in kenia to prostate cancer in US
>compare prostate cancer in papua new guinee hill tribes with US
>compare prostate cancer in dolphins with US
>amerrrgawd a turtle living on galapagos has a lower chance of dying of prostate cancer than the average US citizen
>IT CAN ONLY BE THE RED MEAT CONSUMPTION
all over facebook,and all vegetarians talk about it,but literally too hurtful too watch. Whoever takes something out of this doesnt know shit about how statistics work and how little modern science actually knows about the effects of particular diets. Wow you found 2 people who earn a lot of money giving seminars about their shitty vegan science and you call it "highly regarded medical doctors".
tldr: bad opinionated movie, horrible science, horrible abuse of statistic (all niggers are criminals --->only logical conclusion---> WATERMELON MAKES AGGRESSIVE)
go kys
>>7879553
>>7881002
>horrible science
Every vegan's hyphenated last name.
>>7880867
https://rawfoodsos.com/2011/09/22/forks-over-knives-is-the-science-legit-a-review-and-critique/
Take your bullshit somewhere else
>>7879540
Well, one, that's false. Average age for inuits is about 60-70. Two, most early deaths is due to accidents to starvation not heart disease or cancer, seeing how they're so far north they need to hunt.
This is so far very low quality bait.
>>7879745
I'll bite your retarded bait. First, liver is fatty, and processes a lot of fat and protein, so you get a lot of your fat soluble vitamins from there like vitamin A and D. Second, it's also the site where animals normally make vitamin C, which we don't naturally make. If you don't cook the liver it's chock full of vitamin C and can prevent scurvy. Third, inuits don't eat just seal liver, they have a surprisingly varied diet of meats. They only get berries and roots from the short summers they have up there.
>>7881414
>ever believing a documentary with an agenda 100%
Read the link, it isn't even pushing for a heavy meat diet, it's debunking the shitty "science" in that propaganda film
>>7881021
http://extension.psu.edu/food/preservation/faq/raw-kidney-beans
>>7878930
u a fag dawg
