Hey /ck/
i'm norwegian, and i recently got a friend over in the states who said that white bread is the standard bread. Is that true??
here we call white bread "loff" and brown(?) bread "brod", which just means bread. i can't imagine having white bread every day but i've heard crazier shit about the american diet
also is it true you boil water in the microwave?
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>>7761057
america uses ~110 volts instead of ~230 like the rest of the world, so most kettles are a lot slower in the usa compared to say... europe.
so some people opt to microwave it instead because it's a bit quicker
Of course all things brown are standard in The Northern Caliphate aka The NORth WAY of the Prophet (PBUH).
>>7761069
i kek'd
but is that a yes on the massive amounts of white loaf getting shoved into americas mouth?
>>7761066
I'm Canadian and we use electric kettles here.
Microwaving water is typically a bad idea. At work, I use a microwave to melt agarose in TAE buffer for gel electrophoresis. I've super-heated the solution a few times and when it gets jostled it boils over and is pretty dangerous.
>>7761070
Most Americans buy pre sliced of pic related because it's extremely cheap. Brown bread is called "whole wheat" and sold as a health food and like all "health foods" in the US it's quite a bit more expensive. Ive heard in Norway it's the other way around with soda taxes and the like.
Personally I buy the day old baguettes you can find in the grocery store where I work. I guess that's still white bread though.
OP, yes it's true, what passes for "bread" in the US is embarrassing. The most common kind of bread sold and consumed here is terrible: sweet, bland, pillowy, pre-sliced, white bread (and much of what gets sold here as 'whole wheat' is the same thing with a tiny amount of whole flour and molasses to make the color brown).
>>7761090
American here
Wasn't aware of that whole wheat fact.
How do I get around this without buying bread online.
>>7761085
>>7761090
Norwegian OP here
we have little machines at every single grocery store that slices bread. you just pick out your bread (whole wheat, not sliced, just a loaf) and put it in the machine, then you shove it in a plastic bag and take it to the counter.
not slicing the bread makes it stay fresh and soft longer before it's bought
does american cheese come in big, vacuum sealed cubes or is that a meme?
>>7761057
>That's just spapeggy
>>7761070
>Miss Piggy Tattoo
>>7761090
We have bakery sections in the Uk but most people eat that bread here. Might be an anglo ting
>>7761075
You don't have a separate microwave for food in like a break room or something? How poor is your department that you can only afford 1 microwave?
do americans eat grapefruit with a spoon??
>>7761070
>>7761057
White bread is the standard in my country, too. The whole grain meme only reached us about 10 years ago and we're still thinner and in better health than Norwegians and their shitty-tasting niggerbread.
>>7761090
I don't mind American bread. It's not my favourite due to its paradoxical sweetness and blandness (how can it be both!?) but worst of all, its texture. It's like cake.
>>7761128
We tried that in Italy, but it didn't catch on.
>>7761075
>i can use a bunch of big words to describe my fancy job but am too stupid to boil fucking water in the microwave without injuring myself
>>7761128
That would get shut down SO fast in the US the first time some kid stuck his finger in it.
>>7761163
Yes
The pre sliced individually wrapped "slices" are much more common though.
One misconception I think people have is that American cheese is used in everything when it's pretty much just used in lunch meat sandwiches, it's just that people eat those so much they buy a lot of American cheese.
>>7761112
Bakerbro here. You probably wouldn't like 100% wholemeal bread, tbqhwy. I'm not sure how mass manufactured wholemeal is made, exactly, but I can say that I don't like it.
When I baked professionally, our best selling brown bread was just slightly under 25% wholemeal while the 100% wholemeal was purchased only by tryhards, healthcunts and poor people scavenging day-old loaves that were marked 75% off.
If you're that interested in wholemeal bread, I highly recommend making some yourself using oat flour. I think oat flour makes for a far better as a bread than whole wheat flour does. It has a natural sweetness that wholemeal wheat simply lacks, keeps fresher longer due to oat's natural ability to absorb and retain moisture better than many other grains and if you use a conditioner, comes out considerably more like a standard white sandwich bread in texture than whole wheat could ever hope.
>>7761203
"*singles"
Fuck me.
>>7761207
Thanks Bakerbro!
>>7761112
go to an actual bakery...?
or do those not exist in america
>>7761203
>That would get shut down SO fast in the US the first time some kid stuck his finger in it.
I've seen them before in American grocery stores, usually they have safety features, like you have to close a window after you put the bread in before it starts slicing. Most grocery stores keep them behind the counter and only the bakery employees use them
>>7761207
In most of Central and Northern Europe half the bread shelf in regular grocery stores is 100% wholemeal bread, often with some seeds added in. Please git gud you fat fucks
>>7761185
Running gels isn't a fancy job. Its bitch work. Probably an undergrad in a shitty lab.
>>7761075
use an erlenmeyer that is large enough to actually hold the TAE and you won't have this problem. i use a 250 mL flask for 100 mL TAE. give it a swirl once it's done microwaving and yeah it'll bubble up but it won't boil out of the flask
>>7761298
Mic it in smaller increments. Don't put the thing in there for 2 minutes. Try 30 seconds at a time wont boil over.
>>7761075
You guys don't have boiling stones? They're designed for that exact purpose.
>>7761057
Read the ingredients.
>>7761233
the worst thing that ever happened with one of those machines in my town was when some old man put cake in it
>>7761057
>You know what this pasta needs?
>DIABETES
>by Shanice Richardson
>>7761207
what's a conditioner
>>7761207
What was your recipe?
I routinely make 100% whole wheat loaves that are great- springy, light, good crust yadayada. biscuits and pancakes too. I've almost given up on white flour entirely, except for sweets and holidays.
I use KA white whole wheat and it took some experimenting to get the right hydration and stuff but it's very tasty stuff. My Aunt who is a crazy religious farm lady/prepper makes 100% whole wheat with red berries she grinds herself, I tried that but can't duplicate with fresh ground wheat. Her bread is mouthwateringly good
>>7761234
If you like wholemeal, by all means, eat it, but the vast majority of the rest of the world doesn't like wholemeal of any sort at all. I was trying to tell someone not to piss into a Mr. Coffee then expect Taster's Choice.
Also, I'm a pretty good baker, so telling me to git gud amounts to nothing. I can bake 100% wholemeal and have probably baked more loaves of it than you've eaten. I just don't like it. And most of the world doesn't, either. And who are you implying are "fat fucks" exactly? I assume you're talking about a race or country or something.
>>7761215
Welcome.
>>7761380
Conditioner is just something added to dough to make the finished bread softer. You can buy conditioner in powdered form or as a liquid/gel.
White bread is disgusting.
Rugbrod master race.
>>7761483
das right
>>7761163
WHY IS AMERICAN CHEESE ORANGE
>>7761128
I saw one of those at a grocery store in Texas when I was visiting relatives. Pretty neat idea, in my opinion.
>>7761589
Dyes.
You see, Americans and Europeans view food very differently. Europeans see food not only as a necessity, but a simple pleasure of life. Good food is valued as a part of a comfortable and average life.
For Americans, food is fuel and good food is a luxury. You want to eat something that tastes good and/or is good for you? Work hard and get enough money to afford such a luxury. In the meantime, buy cheap shit so you don't drop dead of hunger.
>>7761589
Annatto
>>7761183
He said whole wheat, not whole grain which is different. Whole grain is better than whole wheat.
>>7761604
That's interesting and all, but it doesn't explain why it's orange
the french also eat mostly white bread.
>>7761057
brown bread is eastern, nothern and central european thing
>>7761178
He is talking about the fact that water just like his chemicals can get super heated in a microwave, it will be hot asf but not bubbling and any little jostle can or say sticking a spoon in it can cause it to boil/bubble all at once splashing up and burning the fuck out of you
>>7761075
so long as there are nucleation points it wont superheat.
>>7761057
Does anyone else like hardbread?
This shit is my go-to for breakfast and snacks if im feeling peckish.
>>7761178
>You don't have a separate microwave for food in like a break room or something? How poor is your department that you can only afford 1 microwave?
Uh okay?
>>7761298
>>7761314
I usually do it in increments but when it is 100 mL, 30 seconds can be enough to bring it to that point. It doesn't happen a lot, just brought it up as an example of the hazards of microwaving liquids without paying attention.
>>7761292
PhD candidate, but I haven't run a gel in a couple months and I'm hoping I don't have to run another for the rest of my thesis. I can't stand loading gels.
>>7761185
I'm pretty sure any undergrad in bio understands what I wrote.
>>7761057
Everything you're heard is absolutely 100% true.
>>7761174
Well at least you can by 100% wholegrain bread in the UK or 100% rye bread, only the uneducated here eat white bread all the time.
>>7761483
Rug Bread? Rye bread?
Satisfyingly chewy it is, if you are poor and don't care for your teeth you cannot eat.
>>7762301
>let's make it easy for you
A microwave can heat water just as easily as an electric kettle, but can also do 100 other useful things. Acting like using a microwave makes you incompetent when your only defense is that you are incapable of boiling water without causing a major disaster is literally the dumbest justification for "do americans really" shit posting I've ever seen on /ck/.
>>7762046
this is basically Wasa crispbread, right? I fucking love that shit with some gjetost and fruit preserves.
Im so fucking glad i live in Germany.
>>7761057
I've never boiled water in a microwave. And I've never owned or used (or seen in person in the US) an electric kettle. My kettle goes on the stovetop.
>>7762644
Tfw you will NEVER browse fresh bread in a comfy German supermarket.
Why even live. Feels pretty bad to be an American right now.
>>7762644
Shit makes me miss living in Germany
>>7761057
>loff
YOU MEAN LOFT NIGGA
>>7762991
Did you even try to see if you have a local bakery?
>>7761203
>get shut down in the US
My grocery store in SW Washington State has this
>>7761090
and UK is wharburton
>>7761057
>white bread is the standard bread
I would say yes but whole wheat bread is popular.
>also is it true you boil water in the microwave?
Most people either microwave the mug or use a stove top kettle. Electric kettles aren't uncommon though.
