If bread is really bad, how come Italians live so long? Czechmate atheists.
>>7709950
Is bread actually bad for you? Hasn't bread been THE staple food for civilizations since basically forever?
>>7709958
yea it's carbs. carbs are what make people fat
>>7709962
obligatory meme poster detected
Bread is always the perfect bowl for tomato soup.
Chef Cain here, bread is very bad for you, that's why I'm gluten-free wheat-free and eat nothing but bacon grease.
>>7709974
Where's your tripcode, boyo?
>>7709978
Chef Cain here, I don't need to prove anything to you.
>>7709981
Stop impersonating me.
>>7709950
>if bread is really bad
This is the dumbest shit ever, but you already know that.
Fad diet fags are bigger cancer on /ck/ than fast food posters.
Sure, for some people ordering your daily double double animal style on lettuce instead of a bun with a medium diet sugar water might actually shave off some significant weight. For the rest of the world you look and sound like retarded fatties who need to take extreme measures to get their lives under control.
>>7710003
>>7710004
sorry, but the big mac is shit, the double whopper pwns
the big mac doesn't even come with tomato
>>7709958
GRAINS ARE THE DEVIL!!!!
THEY SOAK UP ALL YOUR JUICES AND BLOOD AND DRY YOU TO DEATH
GRAINS ARE A POISON
THEY USED TO RUB GRAINS ON BULLETS IN WORLD WAR 1 SO THAT WHEN THE BULLET GRAZED A GUY'S SHOULDER, HE WOULD INSTANTLY DIE FROM GRAIN POISONING
DON'T GRAIN
You can not look like todays ideal body eating the amount of carbs breads contain.
Ideal body types were fat people, or people with 100lbs of clothes on, before american media culture created fads.
Also, they didn't shit post in ancient civilizations. So they didn't get to be fat neet neckbeards arguing about nutritional value of bread compared to ideal body types.
>kys
who /home made bread/ master race here
>>7710079
>You can not look like todays ideal body eating the amount of carbs breads contain.
If you believe this you're more than likely fat.
>>7710152
I wish, but I'm apparently too retarded to knead
>>7709962
but it's true.
carbs = insulin release.
insulin release = signal to store fat.
>>7709958
yeah, and everyone who ate bread once died
just look at the Roman empire, it was their downfall
>>7710213
Both of my grandparents ate bread when they were toddlers. 70 years later - dead.
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you know what goes amazingly with bread AND removes its deadlynes?
skub
>>7709950
>>7709958
>>7709974
>>7710003
>>7710076
Bread is fine
Commercialized mass produced bread is at best valueless in terms of nutrition and at worst full of refined starch and sugar which you'd have to be pretty damned ignorant to think were anything other than awful.
People in the west stopped eating bread nearly a hundred years ago, people need to understand this. White, Best-of-both, Multigrain and even most brown commercial breads are almost always void of nutrition.
Processed foods will always be shit for your diet and health.
>>7711171
>processed foods will always be shit for your diet and health
Yeah, it's far more nutritious to just eat straight up wheat kernels right off the plant. Just be sure not to chew!
>>7709950
>Czechmate atheists.
the Bible says, "Adam and Eve" not "Adam and Baguette"
king me, atheists
>>7710079
> they didn't shit post in ancient civilizations
Tell that to the graffiti in Pompeii
>>7710152
What's good
>>7711221
>Look mom I'm being pedantic on the internet
Also your attempted satirical statement actually proves true in this case. Granted that you're not losing much by simply milling grain, but it's still a stupid point to poke at
>>7709970
CHICAGO DEEPDISH
>>7711349
Christ. You people aren't even trying at this point. Please just leave and spread your cancer elsewhere.
>>7709958
Of course not, but the cheap bread with 87 ingredients you get at the supermarket is bad for you.
Sourdough is the best option but if you don't have the time or patience to make it, then buy the least processed bread you can find in the store or the one that is made there
>>7712999
>bad for you
No. It isn't. My 96 year old aunt eats wtf ever and she was up on a ladder this weekend, cleaning her gutters.
>>7713091
Step aside, scientists, this anon has Definitive Proof.
>>7709950
Bread is fine, white breads are usually fine too. Some white breads have about a teaspoon of sugar in each slice, making them closer to cake than what bread should be. This is the problem.
Some people are literally eating fatty meats on cake for a meal.
The last time I had a sandwich prepared with bread that I didn't specifically choose, I couldn't even finish it because all of the sugar in the bread was making me nauseous.
>>7713170
Also, the sugar in those breads wouldn't be a problem if people realized it and didn't eat other sugary foods on top of it. People will eat bread that has added sugar, with condiments that have sugar, drinking a beverage of sugar water, then having dessert afterwards.
>>7713113
It seems he offered more proof than you did.
>>7711171
What about making your own bread? You're acting like the only thing you can buy in the store is fucking Wonderbread, there's plenty of options to get real, good tasting nutritious bread
>>7713809
Wonderbread makes some reasonably good bread. With whole wheat and fibre and all that stuff.
Honestly it's not like even their white bread is that unhealthy compared to any other white bread.
> I couldn't even finish it because all of the sugar in the bread was making me nauseous.
A tad amount of sugar made you nauseous? Are you somehow unable to properly take in an essential thing needed for proper health(in moderation), or did you have a bunch of it beforehand?
Or, hell, are you just one big giant pussy?
Processed food overall. Egyptians lived on bread mostly amd their mummies are full of atherosclerosis.
Italians eat quite a high fat diet and vegetables too and drink alcohol all of which prevent heart disease. It is not just the bread but a multitude of factors.
>>7711171
>People in the west stopped eating bread nearly a hundred years ago, people need to understand this.
you mean americans, because bread is still a staple in most of europe
>Americans believe bread is bad for you
>Therefore they replace it with bacon and eggs
>>7709950
>Czechmate
His names Pavel and he comes from Prague.
>>7713873
The traditional Italian diet is a high-carb (65-70%) low-fat diet, at least compared to American and Northwestern European diets.
The notion that Italians and Spaniards douse everything in oil is some sort of American mythology.
>>7714327
>mfw you are literally 50 years behind the science
pls kill yourself
>>7714374
There is no "Italian diet". It's something that you Americans have invented just like the "Mediterranean diet".
I travel to Italy about 5 times per year for work and the food differs a shitload. Mostly I go to Lombardy and there the food is cream, butter and lard. Foods like schnitzel. It's like eating in Austria.
Then in Sicily there are these small fish in olive oil on pasta and so forth.
>>7714466
and Italians really do pour olive oil on everything from bread to salads. In Italy they pour a shitload of oil on your salad, pour on some vinegar, grind pepper and salt on it and mix it.
>>7709958
Sour dough bread has been the staple food for civilization.
Beer yeast bread on perfectly filtered flour has only been a thing for about 100 years.
>>7714461
>mfw you literally fell for the reddit meme diet based on egg, milk and beef industry studies
go tell asians that carbs are bad
>>7710201
Did you know meat has basically the same insulin spike as pure raw sugar
You have such a stupid broscience level knowledge of biology
>>7714461
Behind what science???
What makes valid science from 50 years ago suddenly invalid?
Hijacking this thread to ask
I've heard you can make bread out of cauliflower. Has anyone done this? How is it?
>>7715841
My dad went through a phase of baking many loaves of bread bc he got a new bread machine. I never tried it but he said it sucked anyway so dont bother
>>7711221
>implying eating less processed foods means eating wheat kernels
Cripes, how retarded are you?
>>7714682
Typically confounding of data or discovering that the results they got aren't accurate because there was something else that was causing it
Why do Americans eat that disgusting bread when they can just go to their local Italian bakery and have some real bread?
>>7717792
There are no Italian bakeries in any cities other than the larger ones.
>>7717792
Because good old American greed decided to kill the little guy in the majority of America about 30 years ago
>>7711171
Dr David Duke would like a word with you.
>>7711171
>Processed foods will always be shit for your diet and health
>>7713180
>anecdotes
>proof
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