>vegan food isn't delicious
LOL
Pic related is my breakfast today
>>7590629
Oh wow thanks for updating me on your blog! :D
>I made the food look photogenic, it MUST be delicious!11
Vegans and normal people both need to stop this.
>>7590629
Whats the white dollop with scallions?
>>7590636
Soy cream
>>7590637
meat?
>>7590629
Killyourself-kun, is that you?
>>7590629
pretty piss-poor breakfast all things considered.
breakfast is the most important meal of the day, don't do this to yourself.
I kind of wish I could do a vegan/vegetarian diet, but I litterally can't :(
I've spent the last 7 years in and out of the doctors trying to figure oit why my energy is so low all the fucking time, and only recently been able to get it under control.
No joke, literally spent a year trying 6 different doctor recommended. vegan and vegetarian diets. My energy got even worse.
Checked every other possible thing from sleeping good to depression to hormones, and fucking nadda.
So it's finally come down to this combo that for some reason works best with my body-
Required:
>HEAVY excersise at least 4 times a week
>8+ hours sleep
>red meat, poultry, and seafood at least 4 days out of the week , preferably two meals a day
>little to no dairy (not lactose intolerant, but it fucks with my sleep and energy levels
>Sun when I can get it, ideally an hour throughout the day
>Wide variety of fruits and veggies with an emphasis on dark green veggies
>Avoid starches or pastas till evening to help sleep better
I'm Caucasian and most pf my family is too, and no idea where we originate from except the states.
Fucking bodies and gentics are weird man.
>>7590660
>b-b-but my doctor said
There is literally no reason for humans to eat meat. Your doctors were all frauds. Find a vegan nutritionist and try again... assuming you're not just another self-loathing carnist looking for excuses.
>>7590657
>don't do this to yourself.
I'm transitioning. I want to lose weight.
>>7590663
wow vegans have such a big variety to change meat and eggs with...
Like
PEAS and BEANS
>make a YouTube video
>me sitting at a picnic table
>table is packed with a smorgasbord of BBQ'd meat
>five solid minutes of me taking bites of various meats and making a greasy mess
>pick up a head of lettuce
>rip off a leaf
>use it as a napkin
>make eye contact with camera and say "thank you vegetables. You are useful for something"
>>7590629
What are the stick things?
>>7590663
>There is literally no reason for humans to eat meat.
>>7590629
That's not a fucking meal, it's a snack for a toddler. You literally cannot survive on that.
>>7590663
Duse...who the hell do you think I was getting the vegan and vegetarian diets from? A fucking psychologist? No. Highly recommended individuals with years of experience, and both of them told me my body-for whatever reason, can't process the proteins as well from plants as it can from animal foods. It just didn't take.
Of course, I'm not saying I couldn't SURVIVE off of those diets, but then it comes down to quality of life. I could either spend the rest of my life avoiding animal based foods and being TIRED ALL THE TIME, or I can give my body what it does best on and just choose the most ethical ways possible for me to choose.
I'm already arranging to buy a cow off a local farmer and store the meat in my freezer along with some turkeys and chickens from him. Unlike the store bought stuff, I know these animals were raised humanely and will be killed quickly. That's the best I can do without sacrificing something in my life that I. don't personally find worth it.
>>7590702
>will be killed quickly
lel
you know how pigs are killed so meat wouldn't be all bloody? They get stabbed in their neck.
>vegan
nigger u kno how many yeasts died for your bread?
>>7590711
Welp, luckily for me this guy just takes a bludgening hammer to the heads and has a gun as a back up should it all go wrong.
Honestly, I'm still waiting on that invitro meat to become available, then everyone wins and extremists can argue over something else while I enjoy my kill-free hamburger.
>>7590648
Probably. That dumb whore can't help getting preachy in here, vegans can't think past their diet. I'd compare their brains to a hamster in it's wheel, but it's more like a turnip in a salad spinner.
>>7590647
is that a bit burned?
all looks good except that white meat looks a bit average
>>7590629
Yeah, that looks pretty horrible. Especially for breakfast.
What you need is a Full English
>>7590758
>no hash brown
>0 white pudding
>undercoocked tomato
>pissy bacon
>no potato scones
>tea not pictured as part of the breakky
3/10
>>7590764
>cooking tomato
lmao
>>7590771
>eating tomato
kek
>>7590663
B12 dude.
We aren't rabbits or elephants who need to eat their shit/dirt for it.
We don't have multiple stomaches.
Eggs don't have a very high bio availability for b12.
Inb4 just get pure "natural" b12 supplements
>>7590711
I like my bacon only from pigs who died a painful death from untreated syphilis and then on their last breath told they were adopted.
Get on my level vegfag
>>7590764
Stock image off the net. The actual meal itself is what I mean. Potato scones are a Scottish thing with breakfast, hence me saying full ENGLISH. White pudding? Why have white pudding when there's black?
>caring about taste
>caring about other peoples opinions
>>7590647
is this all for one person in america?
>>7590913
i usually have both, without potato scones it barely passes for breakfast. damn englishman, they ruined breakfast
>>7590934
A platter like that would be on the menu to be served to a table of 3-4. That being said, I could probably kill most of it if I was really starving.
>>7590629
My dog would probably piss on my shoes if I served him that
>>7590947
Oh don't get me wrong, potato cakes (as we call them) work well with a cooked brekkie, but I was referring to an English breakfast, not a Scottish one. I'll admit, it MUST come with tea though!
>>7590663
>there is literally no reason for humans to eat meat
>>7590663
Faggots everyone
>>7590663
>Find a vegan nutritionist and try again
>vegan nutritionist
Yep, no bias opinion there.
>>7590992
I would ditch the sausage but that's just me, looks good anyway.
Not too sure about whole mushrooms though.
>>7590663
hey MM you forgot your trip
>>7591805
That's a decent way to do it, but the best is to make face bacon. Brine and smoke the meat, and use it in place of bacon in recipes like carbonara. Huge improvement over bacon in cooked dishes.
>>7590647
Vegans btfo
>>7590647
This is a blue board, anon.
>>7590748
yeah the first two things he cuts up are overdone and burned.
>big green onion chunks on tomato wedges
>>7590663
>vegan nutritionist
>nutritionist
Why would he consult an unqualified hack?
>>7590647
This looks genuinely vile. Pretty common here in Texas too unfortunately.
>>7590663
>I have never traveled to a nation that didn't have a steady supply of affordable meat protein
>>7590671
you forgot lentils, nuts, tempeh, seitan, etc.
>>7591915
Not the best looking BBQ platter I've seen by far, but if you genuinely think that looks 'vile', and you live in TX, the only logical deduction is that you're a SoCal fag living in the peoples' republic of Austin, possibly working as an intern at rooster teeth.
>>7591990
No, I was actually born and raised here. I've only driven through Austin once, and I work on a farm.
I'd say I'm as "Texan" as they come, bar the accent.
>>7590774
B12 supplements, injections, fortified foods exist
>>7592002
>as Texan as they come
>hates BBQ
>>7592003
Just as nature intended. In the Smithsonian there's an exhibit showcasing primitive man 1,000,000 BC going to his vegan nutritionalist to get his B12 injections
>>7592020
>appeal to nature
>>7592015
>Even if you were born and raised in Texas, you aren't a Texan!
No one made a claim to hating BBQ, but the globs of shit in that webm deserve no praise.
>>7592020
Primitive man also did a ton of other things, do you support those too since it happened back then?
If no then why do you only appeal to this particular subject?
Nice salad. Where's the rest of the meal?
>>7592038
Not that anon, but "primitive" man actually did shit because it worked, not because it was "cool", some bullshit political agenda, or because it was a fad.
Don't knock those "primitives", because without them, we wouldn't be here.
>>7592020
I guess we shouldnt cook our foods, bathe, or treat diseases too
Protip: there is naturally occuring B12 in trace amounts in certain foods, amd its likely our ancestors got B12 from the soils and waters in place of meat
>>7590647
Why do men pretend to like meat?
also
>eater
>>7592088
That doesnt mean everything they did worked
>>7592124
Anonymous isn't a username.
>>7592088
Current man can and does things because they work too, including when it comes to veganism. You can do just about anything based on "cool" factor/political agenda/fads. This has nothing to do with what a vegan life is about.
Don't knock rape, murder, assault, lack of hygiene? Are you by chance from North Korea?
Just because something happened in primitive times, doesn't -automatically- make it good. It should all be looked at objectively regardless.
>>7592124
Well, I'm here to tell you, that the truth is I never made such claims here, or on any other website, and I am vegan. Seeing as how this debunks your statement it's safe to say that it is a sweeping generalization.
>>7592141
Was that TVP in the beginning? Stuff is surprisingly good. Looked like they soaked it in a broth of some sort.
>>7590934
yep.
its fucking glorious.
when i worked construction i would have a meal about like this every fucking day.
>>7592124
Try reading next time, sunshine
Youre argument is also against the idea of actual reasonable advancement
>>7592131
>I got caught in a blanket statement
>better scuttle to the edge to salvage a smugpost
No. Every vegan thread ever made here has had the argument of "humans didn't evolve to eat meat". And never has there been a vegan to challenge this.
So to what you're implying, no anon isn't a username but vegans are indeed a hivemind
>>7592177
Stop trying to derail the thread anymore than it already has.
Whether humans evolved to do something or not is less relevant than what is optimal, ethical, and economical.
You could easily apply your logic to anyone who supports the meat and dairy industry as well.
>>7592165
>It's now about advancement, not what we were evolved to eat.
out of courtesy, please tell me where you'll next be placing the goalposts so I at least have a sporting chance.
I remember trying nutritional yeast once and it tasted nothing like cheese at all but it was okay I guess.
>>7592104
Actually, yes, it does mean everything they did "worked", because that's why they did it.
>>7592003
>>7592003
I was taking B12 while on the diets and it didn't help all that much. I mean, it helped about as much as a cup of coffee, but it didn't last all day like it should have.
I could probably dig and find different sources of B12 that might last longer, but I really don't want to bend over backwards and revolve my life around one thing when I can just as easily go about my day eating meat. Advancements be damned, I'm sticking with quality of life.
>>7592135
>Current man can and does things because they work too,
Some things, certainly. Others? Not so much.
Veganism doesn't "work" to create the most fit humans. I've been to places where they don't have the luxury of meat proteins the way we do, and the population is always weak and tiny compared to us in the west.
The only thing veganism does is make you susceptible to getting dominated by the more powerful meat eaters.
>>7590647
my dick is diamonds right now
>>7592199
>ethical
I love how vegans try to play the ethics card to justify their cowardice and unwillingness to kill for their food.
I'd like to round up a bunch of vegans and take them out in the desert with only water and a pig and see how long it takes them before hunger changes their self righteous delusional minds.
>>7590629
I'll admit... I LOVE vegetables, fruits, mushrooms, most sorts of grains, maybe all of them.
But I've never had good vegan food that was sold out of the store premade. You'd think vegan meatballs could atleast taste like a vegetable, if not like meat, but no, it managed to taste like grass that'd gone bad somehow. I won't pretend that there aren't vegan dishes that aren't inherently tasty but you fuckers who buy vegan shit from the store and claim It's any good are insane.
>>7590629
get on my level im a third degree vegan, i dont eat anthing that casts a shadow
>>7592255
>I love how vegans try to play the ethics card to justify their cowardice and unwillingness to kill for their food.
I don't understand what you're trying to say. Why is it ethical to kill if you don't need to? Why is it cowardice if you choose not to?
>>7592255
>implying most meat eaters kill their own food
I mean, I hunt, but when I hear some spoonfed urban faggot who probably winces at the sight of blood shit on a vegetarian or vegan, I can't help but throw any potential respect I would have had for them out the window. Tbh I'm more on the veggie's side than theirs
>>7592255
I had a similar idea for a low budget game show: go to the next bernie rally, shout into the crowd to gather all the vegans you can, then see how many of then you can feed bacon too for $1000. Think of the drama created by the trust fund babies admonishing their middle class friends for taking the money
>>7590663
>vegan nutritionist is right
>doctor who actually took several years of his life to study health is wrong
You're not fooling anyone.
>>7590629
>yeast leavened bread
>vegan
try again
>>7592352
I'm pretty sure yeast isn't an animal.
>>7592309
I bet you hunt, sunshine....for the hamburger sales at the super Wal-Mart.
>white asparagus
>not boiled in asparagus water with a creamy sauce, boiled egg and sliced of cold ham and a side of new potatoes
>>7592293
>Why is it ethical to kill if you don't need to?
If you want the best source of food, then you need to kill. Period.
>Why is it cowardice if you choose not to?
Because it's fear and guilt that drives a lot of vegans, especially chicks, to convince themselves that killing for food is "unethical". They anthropomorphize animals and expect everyone else to do the same.
>>7592141
damn need receipt .. how is this meal called?
>>7592435
No, I live in Quebec and own several acres of forest and hunt deer, moose and elk for my family to eat. I haven't eaten meat from a market in maybe ten years.
>>7592368
it is, actually
>>7590663
>There is literally no reason for humans to eat meat
>>7592509
>thinking a post with the words 'vegan nutritionist' is anything other than substandard /ck/ bait.
>>7592765
>holier-than-thou.webm
It screams pretentious with the small pot, kawaii lid, and wooden rice bowl.
Enjoy your cancer brought by phyto oestrogen
>>7590647
It triggers my autism that for some random reason he takes off his gloves in the middle and then puts them on.
>>7590758
>Full English
>accepting fecal matter into your mouth, ever
>>7592803
I'll never understand how cute things can make people so mad.
Why do vegans spend so much time trying to make dishes that look identical to those that include meat or other animal products? Let your ingredients speak for yourselves you fakers.
>>7592806
Oh just off yourself.
>>7592495
Kingdom: fungi
I bless the rains down in Afffffrica
>>7593400
They don't. Some people do it to explore the possibilities in cooking. Some new vegans do it because their palates are still adjusting.
>>7590970
>tihamin yubidu
lost
the b12 meme is pretty fucking great. Completely ignoring that entire system built into your digestive tract designed to harvest b12 and biotin from the gut flora.
>>7593491
not unless you eat your own poop.
whenever I don't know what to make, I make falafel. I made this tonight.
Shit's fucking delicious.
>>7593832
Hummus AND tzatziki? You madman.
>>7592327
I just realized it's the exact same mental gymnastics that /fit/ fags pull to defend their bro-science keto diet.
keto = vegan
>both are unhealthy meme diets
>both ignore doctors advice (real doctors, not med school dropouts running a forum)
>both rule the lives of their practitioners to the point it's all they can talk about
>both are adopted ultimately for the purpose of impressing a girl
>both are mocked mercilessly by adults
>both are fun to bait because they'll autisticly defend their meme diet at all costs
>>7593491
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/everyvegan
>To get the full benefit of a vegan diet, vegans should do one of the following:
>Eat fortified foods two or three times a day to get at least three micrograms (mcg or µg) of B12 a day or
>Take one B12 supplement daily providing at least 10 micrograms or
>Take a weekly B12 supplement providing at least 2000 micrograms.
>>7592044
Dad, who taught you how to use 4chan?
>>7590711
no they don't.
the main arteries in the neck are sliced and the animal bleeds out before they know whats going on.
that's how most animals are slaugtered because it preserves the meat better and it's less painful for the animal as they blackout before death.
now quit acting like you know how to anything but bitch and eat pounds of lettuce.
>>7593874
Dunno what the /fit/ version is, but afaik keto is just an avoidance of sugars and carbs and prevalence of proteins and fiber to rewire the metabolism so it uses fuel stored in the fat cells instead of ingested glucose. Seems logical enough and actually took like 40 pounds off of me last year
Veganism is a movement not a diet. I'm trying to build my 'diet' around predominantly a veggie/vegan mix.
I dip in and out of either, occasionally slipping when either drunk/craving something 'inhumane'.
Apologies for any vegans/non-vegans this offends. I've seen the videos, seen the documentaries, the social media, the pics, heard Gary's speech etc. I'm trying to do my bit, but I'm not perfect. I'm sorry.
>>7590774
Sourdough bread and basically every other kind of fermented vegetable is rich in b12. I love eating meat too, but your ignorance is a shitty argument.
>>7590629
OP confirmed for rabbit.
>>7595254
Morally you are only responsible for yourself, if you feel comfortable with how you eat then I respect you. I'm glad to hear you're doing your best to eat humanely, but everyone slips now and again, don't feel bad.
>>7590634
Wait, doesn't the lard make the ice cream/colored mashed potatoes non-vegan?
>>7590758
>beans for breakfast
>no hash
>>7590758
>all that cholesterol and animal protein
yikes
>>7592135
>veganism
get a load of this guy
>>7590629
Looks like shit.
Was this your dessert?
>>7596062
Staggering refutation.
>>7595302
So how did we get our B12 before the introduction of bread and fermenting techniques.
>>7590647
It's shit like this that makes me want to go out and buy a smoker.
>>7590629
Looks like shit mon capitan
>>7590629
>breakfast
>don't see hardly any protein on that plate
Yeah great breakfast if you want to be hungry and snacking on random shit all day
>>7596674
>MUH PROTEEN
>>7590913
cuck
>>7596710
some of us have lifestyles that require it
>>7590629
Looks pretty good, but why do you give a fuck that I eat meat?
>>7592100
Damn, you're onto us! We've been faking liking meat for centuries, but I can't tell you why over the internet!
Go to the old oak tree outside of town, march seventy-three paces south, and wait. Where the light of dawn first touches the land, dig. In an old Scooby-Doo lunch box, you'll find the secret of our lie!
>>7590629
as a vegan myself, I can still say OP's food looks disgusting
>>7590647
>99% meat
>1% okra, cabbage, and bell pepper
Wtf looks like a hard shit to me.
Actual question for the vegans/vegetarians ITT,
You do know that plenty of animals die in the fields your vegetables are grown in (deer, rodents, ect) cuz they're killed to prevent them eating/destroying vegetables that are being grown. So, regardless of what you eat, you're still kinda facilitating animal death aren't you?
>>7596836
Reduction is key!
>>7596842
would the best way to do that be ideally to hunt your own meat and have a vegetable plot?
>>7596803
You have fantastically shit taste then
>>7590660
weird... I eat meat once or twice a week because I'm poor and meat's expensive... the only time I really NEED that delicious protein overdose is when I'm doing extended exercise routines with a 75-200% portion of my body weight for 5-7 days out of the week. The rest of the time I'm usually pretty good with tofu and pasta fazool.
I generally feel "best" on a 3-cardio, 2-heavy, 2-med/light, meat one day, low-ish starch, no caffeine, no alcohol, minimal bacon week... but fuck most of that. I work out to look good. I drink coffee and alcohol to tolerate others. Pork is delicious. I like trying to leg press four times my weight repeatedly. I fucking LOVE starch in just about any form.
>>7596893
>he thinks animal protein and plant protein are the same thing
Lol
>>7596908
Why aren't they?
>>7591915
back to cali socialistcuck
>>7596974
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/73/1/118.full
bone loss
>>7592077
based chef john
>>7590629
I'm vegan, but WTF is that? Kind of a sad breakfast imo
>>7590629
This has to be bait. That has almost no nutrition. That is not a full meal. Eating like that every day would turn you to skin and bones and give you a myriad of degenerative health problems, and shorten your lifespan by many years.
>>7590660
I had the same problem.
Lack of iron was part of the problem.
Buy iron supplements.
Another supplement helped me too, L-Arginine. I recommend it.
>>7597095
It's breakfast. He's got a bunch of whole grain toast there, vegetables, and soy cream. So carbs, fibre, and a bit of protein in the soy.
Lots of people eat cereal/oatmeal in the morning and they do fine.
>>7597099
What the fuck...
Why do they try to turn that shit into fake other food?
Just leave it as it is don't try to turn Broccoli into Pizza. Disgraceful.
"I'm gonna take all these healthy ingredients and try to make it resemble something unhealthy"
>>7597109
You vegans need to take some nutrition classes or something. And I don't mean nutrition classes made by other vegans.
>>7597111
Why are you changing the subject.
>>7597110
The same reason people turn cows into meat pies. To annoy you specifically.
>>7596035
>animal protein
>bad
It's the same stuff by when you've digested it ,how deluded.ru
>>7591877
>>7590647
Ya anon! Gosh! Forcing someone to have a mouth orgasm is still rape!
>>7597105
>L-Arginine
I think that might be the one thing I haven't heard the doctors talk about, where did you find out about it? Has any other countries done studies on it? Does gender matter if you are going to take it? I'm a women, I don't want to grow a beard or some weird shit lol.
>>7595430
The image is meant to convey the fact that visual appeal and flavor are distinct concepts, often unrelated.
>>7592805
i never noticed, thanks a lot asshole.
>>7597310
You can't trick people and then draw meaningless insight out of that. See: toothpaste oreos.
>>7597132
L-arginine is an amino acid, you dumbfuck.
Do you know what amino acids are? Do you know anything at all about nutrition? Jesus christ..
>>7595254
I just watched that. Pretty good speech. I think the videos were a little unnecessary, especially the dairy farm one. I mean, it had nothing to do with the milking process or whatever else, it was just people getting mad at cows.
It all kind of went downhill when he started meme-ing about bee vomit. I feel like he could have fit all his good material into a half hour instead of over an hour.
>>7590629
fuck off you make vegans look stupid
also, that bread looks super tasty
>w-we're winning the culture war bloodmouthes!
>you're on the wrong side of history!
>>7590663
oh my god, I know you are trolling but I've meet people that think exactly like that, what the fuck
>>7590629
hey guys rate my vegan lunch
its just as good as a burger i swear
>>7590663
>Your doctors were all frauds.
y-you're a white male! bernie still has a chance
>>7590629
Green onions with yoghurt?
>>7590663
how is a vegan nutritionist allowed to practice? isnt recommending not eating meat to a healthy person a huge malractice?.
Are vegan nutritionist not real nutritionist but rather just pretend proffesioals?
>>7590629
It's not that vegan food can't be good
It's just adding meat and cheese would make almost any dish objectively better
>>7590629
it looks boring and bland as fuck
