Why does /ck/ hate Tony?
>>7425964
Because /ck/ is even edgier than he is
Pompous, arrogant douche obsessed with being the quippiest and most passive aggressive in the room at all times. Like...chill the fuck out?
>>7425964
He is a prick and bashes the usa and americans every chance he gets.
>>7425964
I like Tony. I feel like he's mellowed out over the years. The biggest cringe I get now is him desperately trying to seem edgy and sharp like he was as a young man and frankly Tony your a grown ass old man with kids now cut that shit out.
Also lately his shows - particularly the CNN one Parts Unknown - is less about food and more about politics and shit. Which interests me less.
In all though I like him. He's a pinko turbo liberal but he's generally self aware about it and gives the other side a fair shake if they're on his show.
>>7425964
No problem with Tony here. Good TV. He's got an awesome life. He goes out with cooks to good restaurants to eat and drink all day every day. Best buds with Eric Rippert. If you hate on Tony, it's either edginess or envy.
He tells people about all these great hidden places to eat. Yet he hates all the Foodies that will then swarm it and ruin the place.
>>7425978
You can blame the producers for Parts Unknown being more political.
If Tony had it his way you can bet it would still be more like his old shows what with the eating and getting drunk.
>>7426066
>Getting paid to eat and get drunk
Living the life
>>7425964
We hate him because he's getting to live the life we all wished we could live.
Traveling the world, going to distant lands, eating exotic foods, while consuming copious amounts of alcohol - all on someone else's dime.
We hate him because we love what he does.
>>7425990
He doesn't really do that, though. Andrew Zimmern does that. He's way more animated and goes out of his way to make sure you know you need to check the place out. Tony will talk about the food he's eating, but it's an observation, not an advertisement most of the time. He only goes nuts about something if it's one of the best things he's ever had.
>>7426105
So basically, we are jelly haters?
He can't figure out if he wants to be the cynical old man who has seen everything or the young hipster who is "with it."
He's /ck/ without the /pol/. So, self-loathing
he's a liberal cuck. i dont need to hear that nonsense when food is the actual subject.
>>7425964
>Why does /ck/ hate Tony?
He's a pompous asshole.
>>7426594
>he's a liberal cuck.
silly /pol/
go back to your stupid board
I like watching his shows because they don't just show the safe and sanitized versions of cultures. With that said I'm not so much into the political aspects, but I understand that the two often go hand-in-hand.
I'd like to read his books. Has anyone in here read them?
>>7426657
I haven't read all of them, but I have read several.
IMHO Kitchen Confidential is a must read. The others aren't as good. If you like his writing you might enjoy them, but start with KC.
>>7426657
read Kitchen Confidential and heis next book
he wanted to be a writer
cooking (and heroin) just got in the way
good writer, though
>>7425964
>wears cowboy boots because it gets him attention from foreign people
>definition of a dude
>snarky leftist scumbag
>spends more time hating America than loving it
hes the anti alton brown
>>7426657
>I'd like to read his books.
why not read a real book instead you fucking idiot?
>>7426066
actually, Tony said the reason he moved to CNN is so he can be more political. the first Parts Unknown episode, Myanmar, was a place he'd wanted to go on No Reservations but the owners of the Travel Channel wouldn't help pay or some other insurance/liability shit. and it's not like No Reservations was apolitical (the Beirut episode instantly comes to mind, and there are quite a few others).
that said, i wish he had done more episodes of The Layover, which was actually quite useful for travelers and completely lacked any sort of political commentary.
>>7428190
i like you. Steinbeck is GOAT.
>>7428190
Steinbeck is the OG fedora.
>>7428221
>the author of East of Eden is fedora-tier
go watch more MTV then
>>7426245
Young hipsters want to be the cynical old man who's seen everything without living the experiences necessary to reach that point.
>>7428217
You ever read his letters to his friends and family? They're absolutely beautiful.
>>7428216
Agreed, Layover was his best show imo but he barely did any of them before jumping ship to CNN. It was much more food based and a lot less BS and almost reminded me more of Bizarre Foods.
There are still some great episodes even on CNN. He just tries to get too "deep" at times and comes off as really stupid trying to come up with some grandiose idea about a location. He did the same shit on No Reservations though as well. I actually think No Reservations had the majority of his shitty episodes, especially earlier on. CNN I believe is giving him a better budget to work with also which helps.
>>7425964
Everything he does is so obviously an act, not even playing a caricature of himself like Ramsey but a complete act.
>>7428607
How so?
I don't hate Tony. He's a useful guidepost for what the older hipster generation thinks about the world. I admire his efforts to reach the younger generation even as he effortlessly connects with the older one (Lebanon, Budapest, Morocco). I know and he knows he's not hip anymore but he hasn't reached that old man stage where he stops caring.
>>7425964
>hating Tony Bourdain
He's bro-tier, I guess only people with friends can relate.
>>7425964
He's a pretentious jackoff.
A pompous ass.
Also weed lmao XD
>>7426105
basically this. this is the truth
>>7428551
>>7428216
I like parts unknown the most honestly. The layover was not a very useful travel guide, the food suggestions are no different from his other shows and the hotel/transportation info seems like it is just tacked on for the sake of the theme with not much thought put into the hotels. I'm going to taiwan soon and the taipei episode was not much help with planning.
The cinematography in parts unknown is more creative and interesting than his previous shows (good example is the Thailand episode). The dialogue blows the layover out of the water. The sociological factor is what I actually like about the show. It will honestly be more beneficial when traveling than his "googled by an intern travel info" in the layover. The balance of social issues and food is just right imo, and is necessary in order to learn about these "parts unknown". I don't think any of the issues he portrayed as "deep" were over exaggerated. If anyone honestly gets offended by the "politics" it would be a bit ridiculous. People still expect "only food" from Bourdain and it's just not happening.
There's just no way you can explore only food in some of the war-torn and socially fucked areas he visits. On the other hand some episodes (quebec) are almost all about food, and for a good reason.
>that comfy Christmas episode with QotSA in sweaters
>>7429309
More comfy episodes anyone? There were a couple of good ones, but I remember a few.
>that snowy Vienna episode
>the Boston boozing episode with that guy from that band
>the episode illustrated by some comic book guy where they made the biggest greasiest pot of delicious cassoulet I've ever seen
Basically winter Bourdain is best Bourdain.
Guy Fieri is the best celebrity chef
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8GccReosPY
>>7429090
Elitism isn't the same as pretentiousness, imbecile.
>>7426105
I don't hate Tony but this is the assumption I've always made about his haters. He truly has the greatest job on earth. If you like to eat and travel, I don't see how you could possibly not be envious. He is pompous douche, but to be fair, what celebrity chef/tv personality isn't?
>>7426105
Not to mention he's like 6'3, has a full head of hair, and is pretty attractive.
>>7430458
Anyone got that dick pic of him in the pool?
>>7429349
>Basically winter Bourdain is best Bourdain.
Oh oh oh.....don't forget that horrible winter Reykjavik Iceland Bourdain though. He was the opposite of happy camper, and I think the only person ever who actually hated Iceland.
>>7430417
He isn't even an elitist.
He refuses to see culture where it exists and buys into the bullshit corporate wash of America version of culture.
He thinks street food is excellent so long as it isn't American street food. Actually, strike that, so long as he can pin a minority to it, he will give it a pass.
/ck/ what do you wish tony did different?
is there anywhere he should have gone but didnt?
niggas he should've chilled with?
what if he was younger?
how would that change things?
>>7425968
So?
>>7430539
>He refuses to see culture where it exists and buys into the bullshit corporate wash of America version of culture.
Completely wrong, watch any US episode.
>>7425990
He doesn't hate foodies he hates hipsters who go to places that he likes just for the sake of looking alt.
>>7425978
>Tony your a grown ass old man with kids
Nope, no kids, I think
>>7429259
>There's just no way you can explore only food in some of the war-torn and socially fucked areas he visits.
Why do we think he should limit himself to shows only about food, about food and food-centric? That's just not the only reason to travel, and "Real Travelers" never enjoy the wealthy budget to do all the food that there is, for that matter. He travels like a person would if they actually love culture and travel, as well as food with unlimited budget. He stays 4star, and rough and rustic. He dines 4star or street food or homemade or out of a market, out of a boat, with the hunter, anything at all. He uses SAT words to describe others, and he has self-reflective montages, too. The fact that it angers anyone is just that most people of average education simply don't talk like that and it rubs a person wrong when they feel they don't measure up (or can afford those things). He's not pompous, he's just educated and experienced. He admires all the great writers. It comes through in every episode, from Graham Greene to Hunter S Thompson, to Paul Bowles. IF there was an expat from another era writing in the presence of heydeys Morocco to Paris to Hong Kong, I'm sure, he's read it.
>>7430558
So some people don't like people who go out of their way to be pricks who consistently bash on America?
>>7430570
lol America is fucked, though
>>7430563
Finish reading the post.
>>7430576
See, I can already tell I don't like you. It's fairly simple.
>>7430580
You're not obligated to like me, dude
Just except the fact that USA a shit
>>7430585
I didn't say I'm obligated to like you. It's just a simple fact that I don't.
>>7430577
American whites have no culture of their own.
>>7430590
Well that was a joyous conversation.
>>7430605
Sadly, you have to have something to say that isn't idiotic bait to have substantial conversation.
>>7430615
Got me
>>7425968
Exactly! He's a chef yet he thinks he's a self-appointed knower of all right and wrong
>>7430632
Unlike you, he's cultured.
>>7430566
He does have a daughter.
And yeah that's pretty much a lot of what I was trying to explain. I don't think he should limit himself to just food in his shows.
>>7430491
I kek'd hard during that episode, was he sick or did he just have huge hangovers all the time? Besides that, I can imagine constant darkness getting your mood down so I can't blame him for feeling like shit.
I got tickets to see him talk on some tour or w/e, was the most boring shit ever, It was basically the cliff notes of Kitchen Confidential, Nasty Bits, Cooks tour and the sum of his shows and behind the scene work. I dont know what I expected, my dad got me the tickets cause we watched his Food network show together, than travel show together and him and my mom bought me the books too. Top tier comfy shit tho.
>>7429349
Quebec was great.
I have literally and without a shred of a joke masturbated to Bourdain before
>>7430479
someone please post this
He just really GETS enjoying food and is eloquent enough to put it into words.
90% of /ck/ are worthless, jealous, garbage. If they ever had to throw a bunch of people into a woodchipper for the greater good, you probably couldn't find a better place to start.
>>7426594
oh hey look an actual real life idiot
>>7425964
Just tired of jews having all the easy gigs in life.
OP posts that imply entire boards are singular opinion need to be automatic bans. They wind up being shitposts on every board.
>>7434294
/mu/ and /lit/ first you asshole.
The Chile episode of No Reservations triggered me
>muh Pinochet
>muh right wing death squads
>Allende dindu nuffin, he a gud socialist
>>7425967
>Like...chill the fuck out?
lol
>>7425964
In this episode I'm watching now someone is like "you can't find sushi in New York" and Tony is throwing the biggest shit show about it.
>Are you KIDDING ME?
>oh MAN you don't even KNOW
proceeds to lecture him on all the super expensive but good Sushi on the other part of town (confirming that guys argument really)
He could have just said
>Oh there's Sushi in New York you just have to try _____ it's pretty good
instead he acted just like >>7425967 said.
He's kind of a snob.
>>7437567
Isnt that just being excited?
I would get triggered too if someone is so ingrained in having such a subjective opinion.
Dont get me wrong hes a real pretentious motherfucker though
>>7437567
>(confirming that guys argument really)
not really though
>>7437592
>Isnt that just being excited?
He looked at the guy and talked to him like he was a retard and he wanted to slap him. It was more of just a "oh you don't even know New York like I do" attitude.
>hes a real pretentious motherfucker though
Exactly. Then again I hear a lot of New Yorkers are like that.
I'm watching Layover and he keeps using the term "high test".
Stealin memes from /fit/?
>>7437630
Im from Ny and i can say for sure the people living in the gentrified areas are mostly the pretentious dudes. Not saying theyre all bad but christ its like night and day with some of these neighborhoods
>>7439319
he had the same fucktard attitude as soon as he got out of culinary school
he thinks cooking is an art like photography but it isn't
>>7439340
especially pretentious given that he still didn't know shit and wanted to pretend as though he knew better than the vast majority of people about many things
>>7439350
>didn't know shit
You just said he went to culinary school, at least try to be consistent.
>>7439361
He still didn't know shit. He knew more than when he went, but he was still ignorant and wrong about many things, IE didn't know shit.
>>7439370
>He knew more than when he went
I see that you conceded that he did know things then.
>>7439379
There are things to know that don't amount to shit and how to apply that which may or may not amount to shit so that it truly does amount to shit. Neither of which had he achieved before he decided he had an authoritative opinion.
So no.
>>7439396
>There are things to know that don't amount to shit and how to apply that which may or may not amount to shit so that it truly does amount to shit.
Nonsense
>>7439411
Your senses leave much to be desired, then.
>>7439418
Wrong, proofread your posts.
>>7439420
It is not my fault you aren't up to the task of basic reading comprehension.
>>7439425
My reading comprehension is just fine, proofread your posts.
>>7439427
No it isn't. That post makes sense.
he's an ex coke addict new yorker, he could have a show about teddy bears and he would still come off as a pompus douche. a lot of the chefs he has had on his shows are vastly more pretentious than he is.
>>7439438
Most of the chefs he has had on his show know a lot more about food than he does.
>>7439441
No. I prefer to post this shit-hole of a thread into oblivion.
>>7439442
of course they do which is why is why he turns into a dork tourist and takes pictures of their food with his cell phone and gushes over them like a 90s teenager at a backstreet boys concert.
>>7439452
(you)
>>7439448
Unless they stick to traditional American food that he can't connect to a minority.
>>7425964
He's the total biscuit of food.
>>7430566
you pretty much explained why I like him. I don't see how anyone could hate him really.
