old /alcoholic general/ is gone.
how are you alcoli/ck/s doing?
i'm sober for five days today after six months of heavy drinking every night and a few years of heavy drinking 3-5 nights a week before that. i have gained 15 pounds in the last year and losing the weight is actually my main motivation for quitting, but obviously the health benefits are huge too. so far it hasn't been too bad, but cooking dinner while not drinking has honestly been a weird feeling. the association between the two had been so strong for me.
This is strangly me, only i have gained a bit more weight over the years. I work as a cook and its different not going in smashed but surprisingly everyone i work with has been supportive of me stopping which is nice.
>>7404020
that's good to have the support. i had been hiding the real extent of my drinking from my wife, so i am avoiding making a big deal out of it. i basically just told her i'm trying to lose weight so i'm not buying beer anymore.
who else here nosebleeds when drinking?
also, most importantly,Qt to drink insanely heavily with?
>>7406083
*how do i find a*
>>7404297
Good on you man.
Sleeping without liquor is amazingly satisfying, waking up and feeling good for a change.
>>7406083
>QT to drink insanely heavy with me
I've got a full beard and a liter of 100 proof rum I just cracked 5 minutes ago. Is that QT enough?
Lets do this.
>>7406095
pic isn't of me you clown, there are no girls here
>>7406098
i'm a girl
>>7406114
but you have a beard so that's gross
How rare is Ardbeg 10? Obviously not as rare as Hakushu 12, but still. Also, is it okay to buy from small liquor shops or should I always stick to big chain stores?
>>7406269
ardbeg 10 is common as fuck
Smashing UV vodka with V8 splash and taking breaks to smoke weed while pierogies are boiling.
>tonight may be the night that I fry them based on /ck/ advice
Hanging in there. Recently relapsed a couple of days ago. Feels like I'm just waiting for the liver cirrhosis to kill me this time.
>>7407084
relapsed after how long? keep fighting, man.
I'm not full blown yet, but I realize I'm much less angry for no reason when I have a shot of vodka.
Sober for three days now and I feel absolutely awesome.
Been drinking pretty much every day since Jan. 2 when I lost both my job and my girlfriend.
It started out because I couldn't fall asleep but then it escalated to me being buzzed during the day and getting shitfaced at night.
My birthday is tomorrow though so depending on how that goes I might relapse.
Pic related, a couple of shots every hour during the day and the rest of the bottle at night.
>>7406098
>there are no girls here
ironically enough /ck/ is one of the few boards with a fairly large female population
>>7407832
Coincidentally. Idiot.
it's been a month since I had hard liquor. been drinking 6 days a week for a couple years. I switched to beer because since last summer to the end of January when I would drink, despite never getting a hangover, I would get food poisoning and puke my guts out the following morning or night, sometimes to the point of stomach bile coming out. im not sure how long I can hold out for. I've never been this long without vodka and beer is getting pretty damn occumulatively expensive.
>dont drink often
>friends come round
>get drunk but not enough to throw up or anything
>also smoke a lot of tobacco which i do socially but not usually in such a great amount
>go to sleep at like 4am
>wake up at 6am, feel awful, go take a shit
>side note: i have an anal fissure, a scar on my bumhole that occasionally reopens
>after wiping with blood on the paper (no more than normal) i look down
>cant tell if the bowl is full of disintegrated brown shit or slightly bloody poo
>go eat an apple
Am i gonna die?
Super heavy drinker, for the past 5 years, plus 5 years of heavy social drinking before that.
Been drinking over 128oz of 5.7% every weekday, plus way more, morning to night on the weekends.
Want to change, but literally have nothing to look forward to after work.
On the verge of making a drastic life change soon, want to take this chance to actually see a doctor and get help stopping for good.
Constantly pulled back and forth from wanting to live a fulfilling life, and wanting to just sink into oblivion until I die.
i'm gonna quit drinking, bros.
unless something really bad happens and i need to get wasted to cope.
something bad will probably happen. i have bad luck.
>>7408157
>i'm gonna quit drinking
ya right
Fuck man how/why do you guys drink this much? I've been getting drunk socially once a week for the past month or two and I've been feeling terrible. Do you guys get hangovers? The day after a night of drinking I just sit at home all day and masturabate twice and eat shitty food and feel sorry for myself and tell myself that I won't get drunk again.
Is alcohol not expensive where you guys live or something? And don't you know that drinking that much will *literally* shorten your lifespan significantly and ultimately kill you?
Not trying to judge but got damn, never met or talked to any legit alcoholics I guess. What gives?
>>7408191
I drink out of boredom. $16 for a 30 pack of beer, $20 for a bottle of gin, tonics, and lime juice or $25 for a 1.75 of Evan Williams.
I get hangovers, but not that bad, most can be virtually cleared with proper hydration.
I guess I just don't care? Also socially anxious and can't really let loose around people unless I have a few.
Watching Game of Thrones s01e07, eating homemade eggrolls and drinking pic related.
35 years old
was drinking bud light exclusively for a while
possibly going to lose my job soon due to showing up intoxicated
about to do 3 shots of vodka 3 hours before work. god bless you motherfuckers.
>>7407340
Oh yeah, that shit takes away my will to eat completely.
I would reccomend some chili-vodka if you want the entire dinner experience.
>>7408331
Are you a bus driver?
>>7408191
For me it was just a gradual escalation. Got drunk a handful of times in high school. Started partying/drinking a lot on the weekends in college. When life got stressful after college, started drinking regularly. Now I'm 30 and was getting hammered almost every night until a couple weeks ago when I decided I needed to pull myself together. When it just builds like that over the years, it is hard to realize you might have a problem, especially when you haven't suffered any real negative consequences. Still, I do worry for my liver and I'm done with this nonsense.
>>7408391
No, but if we are asking random questions of eachother, did you ever suck a frozen nigger turd while in the hood?
>>7408436
>quick, better insert nigger into my post so i fit in here
Stoli and Sprite
All a man needs
>>7408444
Could you more easily identify yourself as a black american?
>>7408472
Yes, I could continue not mailing any child support checks to your mother.
>>7408191
Feel like shit most every morning, less if I remember to drink plenty of water before sleep.
Go to work and drink tons of water/coffee, start to feel normal again.
Work days over, am tired and stressed. Physical pain also from being over weight and on my feet all day.
Go back to my shithole apartment and drink to numb the pain.
I know this will kill me, but I feel trapped in a bad situation, dont know how to get out.
No friends outside of work anymore, no support.
Terrible anxiety when trying to stay sober.
Go to store and get more beer.
And yes, its pretty expensive, but I still manage to get by. Just not much money for much anything else.
>>7408433
Glad you seem to be on the right path anon. I've so far followed that same progression and now I'm at the getting drunk once or twice a week in college scenario. Any advice you'd give to your past self? Like you've said, I'm not really facing any immediate consequences either, I'm a pretty fun drunk, I work out on week days, I get drunk as cheap as possible, it's mainly the long term effects I'm worried about and the reliance I now have on alcohol to have fun.
Some of my friends are starting to drink probably more days than they're not. Even if they're not getting hammered, it's still a concern to me but I don't know what to tell them. Alcohol is fun.
>>7408196
Dam son you're definitely not from aussieland, here it's $20 (about $15usd) for a 6 pack on average, and if you go out to a bar or a club or anything it's usually about $7 or $8 for a drink. Kinda glad this country taxes alcohol so heavily to be honest. I was in Japan recently and you can get drunk easily on ¥1000 so I was getting hammered every night.
Ever considered other drugs to help ease your anxiety? I'm also an awkward faggot but I've mostly just gradually got better at it all. Sometimes I use phenibut which I'm quite partial to aside from the foggy memory and minor hangover it gives you.
Do you have a job? Are you drunk at work? I can't hold down a job for more than a few months because social anxiety, always thought drinking on the job would make things a lot easier even though I realise how stupid that sounds
>>7408563
Meant >>7408807 also for you. That sucks anon, I hope you can recover soon. I know this is naive but ever consider just not drinking? I know slightly how addictions can be, I'm currently trying to quit porn and maybe fapping but I always relapse after a day or two but I figure that's because there's not really any major negative consequences from either. Drinking on the other hand...
>>7408807
Have a job as a desk jockey, used to drink at work, but had to cut that shit out. Never drink before 5, and I prefer to keep it that way.
Do every drug from opiates to cocaine to amphetamine to benzodiazepines, but I try to limit myself to once or twice a week. Really don't want to trade my booze addiction for benzos though, because that would be even harder to kick.
>>7408807
Not him but I tend to drink out of boredom too.
Like tonight I just couldn't get into anything but now I'm a few beers in and my wife went to bed so I can keep drinking till after midnight when I need to sleep to wake up for work in the morning.
Most nights I'm OK and don't feel the need to drink but I don't know man.
>>7408823
Im not completely ignorant if the root of my drinking problem. Its a long story, but my environment doesnt help with it.
Just not drinking is a tough one.... I did it for a week recently and felt a lot better after the first few days, but that was after a 2 week bender where I wasnt working due to holidays where I just drank myself stupid.
I pretty much hate where I am in life, and am trying to figure a way out. Being a working functional alcoholic means I tend to take one step forward and two(three) steps back.
Ive pretty much forced myself into a corner. Ive hopefully got a chance to move on to something better, but I wont find out if it will work until next week. If that doesnt work out, I really dont know what I will do.
>>7408775
If you're in college and doing the college partying thing, don't worry about it. Everyone does that and most people do not end up alcoholics. Once you're out in the "real world" though and you start drinking to deal with your stress or if it just becomes a habit, realize its a road you don't want to go down. It took me awhile to admit to myself that I have a problem and that I don't like what I'm doing to myself. I'm glad I've had this realization though before I had any serious issues. Hopefully I can keep it up. So far so good, though.
>>7409218
What if I realize this, have those around me who do it, and don't feel a compelling reason other than health to do this?
If there was a defined avenue to pursue to make me a more productive individual, I'd do it, but it seems like it's both the answer and excuse to self-advancement...
>>7409348
That's not booze advice, it's not being an attention whore little bitch advice.
Been an alcoholic for almost 10 years now, just got out of rehab 2 months ago and I've already relapsed and gone back to drinking on my nights off for the past 2 weeks. The crippling depression and loneliness is just too much to face sober.
>>7408101
I have the same problem, anon. My doctor told me if it only happened when I drink then not to fuckin drink. It's basically your body rejecting alcohol because it doesn't want to deal with it anymore. It sucks. I'm usually out of commission for a full day or more if I choose to drink heavily.
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One of my friend's 21st is tomorrow, so I want to get him a bottle of something to mark the occasion. He likes gin, so was thinking along those lines and looking for recommendations.
Already have a bottle of Hendricks so thinking of getting Tanqueray since I heard decent things about it. Thoughts? Otherwise might just get him some irish whiskey or a couple bombers of beer.
>>7409348
black/white russian. If you really want to use baileys, make whites using it instead of cream.
>>7409369
Not personally a big gin drinker, but I prefer bombay sapphire over tanqueray in my gin + tonics.
>>7409369
Hendricks is pretty good, Tangueray is shit. Really, coming from a cheap-ass Burnett's drinker, I'd say the first would be tippity top, but I've heard the more expensive 47(or some number) monkey's is great.
Honestly, if someone got me a bottle of Hendricks, two polar diet lime tonics, and a squirt bottle of lime juice, I"d be set.
>>7409369
If you're going to go cheap, go with New Amsterdam. It's a pretty solid value for decent-but-boring gin.
>>7403868
>i'm sober for five days today
Sad.
So... do you legit alcoholic only drink shots or do you make some cocktails?
Any opinions on Beefeater? My uncle just got me a bottle for my birthday.
>>7409639
It makes a good gin and tonic. Nothing I would drink strait.
>>7408243
Sweet Mary mother of god I've been looking for the name of that whiskey for so fucking long. Thank you based anon.
>>7409612
Depends on your income and the reason you drink. Some people like the action of drinking more than a certain destination of drunkenness. The association of taking another sip or shot with a feeling of "Fuck it!" can be a strong one. There's some biological basis to this as getting even a mild euphoric feeling from alcohol tends to only come when there's a rising BAC. Any other euphoria felt is due to conversation, music, or, for some folks just the anxiolytic properties relieving some constant dread they have around them.
I'm not a shot-after-shot with the end goal of blacking/passing out guy, but, I don't nurse cocktails either. I have a shot glass with 2cL and 4cL marks on it and take a half-shot every 30 minutes or so, when drinking. I'm not trying to get to any point really quick, I just like getting as many mini-shots as I can.
On a Friday or Saturday night, I usually have most of a 750mL bottle of low-mid tier vodka, chased with water or a weak mix of club soda with Gatorade powder. Usually save about 3-5 oz. to have with breakfast the next day, so, that I can sort of taper off and not get much, if any, hangover.
>>7410310
>every 30 minutes or so
Actually, just thought about this for a second, and I'm going to say it's more like 10-15 minutes. 30 was just what I tell myself I'll switch to on mornings I do have a hangover.
>>7410310
Opposite mate, I'm sprinting for that smashed state.
I can't stand beer or weak-mixers because it takes too long.
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I haven't drank in a week, just picked up a 4 pack of these babies for tonight. Luckily I don't work tomorrow, last time I drank I told myself it was alright since I didn't work until 11am the next day. I got shitfaced and woke up puking all morning and had to call in sick to the job I have only been at for 2 weeks. No more drinking on work nights for me, idk how some of you guys can do it
I've been cutting back lately and haven't drank much, but it's a friend's birthday tomorrow and we're going to "power hour" at a local bar tomorrow, $1 pints of miller high life for the hour. How many do you guys think you could throw back in an hour?
>>7409612
I've known alcoholics who strictly drink cider, or only drink wine. Many varieties of alcoholics
>>7406091
This. Was a fifth-a-day alcoholic for awhile...once I got where I could fall asleep naturally (and sometimes unintentionally), my life has been much happier. Really regret all the opportunities I missed and all the times I fucked up due to my drinking. Life is good again, and I can finally say I'm myself again for the first time since I was in college. Fuck yea.
>>7407817
Hey anon, hope you're on here before doing anything for your birthday. Just wanted to tell you to stay smart tonight...you don't have to drink. You'll get through it
>>7411971
Prolly a dozen for that price. I'd be pissin' like a horse tho.
>>7411991
Good for you man. Also, I think my favorite part is actually being able to dream, and remember the dreams the next morning.
>another hard root bear to try
>>7412004
oh shit, didn't realize Sprecher made hard stuff, their regular root bear is awesome. What's the ABV?
I used to consider myself a heavy alcoholic - nowhere near the worst of you, but probably half way there. I'd have binges of between 3 and 6 litres of cider daily, for a few days to a week before quitting again for another few days to a week. When I was drinking to get drunk, I was drinking as fast as I felt physically comfortable and feeling pretty wasted. My feelings and behaviour didn't change throughout the week, I still felt and observed I was getting drunk by the end of it.
Now here's what I don't understand. Every time I began my taper, doing so successfully with minimal withdrawals, I always got big cravings and didn't feel remotely buzzed, let alone drunk. Instead of looking at the clock and thinking "oh yeah I haven't had a drink in ages, I'll have this and pour another", I felt I was looking at the clock and waiting ages for my next drink. This would be the same no matter how long my binge had been, no matter how much or little I was trying to taper by - I couldn't get drunk, despite the fact that in the days prior I had gotten so drunk I'd fallen asleep/passed out with only one drink more.
I guess it's some association thing in my brain. Not quite a placebo, just that the action of drinking to enjoy it produced a different neurological response in my brain to drinking for medicine. Could any knowledgeable anons shed some light?
>>7412056
I don't know the actual science behind it, but I'm pretty sure there is some sort of neurological reaction, kind of like an endorphin rush, when you drink with the intent of getting drunk or having fun. It's almost like a placebo but can contribute to the euphoria of being drunk.
>>7403868
I'm terrible. I've never been at a lower point in my entire life. Drinking some Finlandia straight now.
>blacking out and then waking up to find you've pissed your pants
goddamnit
>>7412082
Yes the effect of alcohol is actually to a huge extent cultural and placebo based. There's a reason people from different countries get different 'standard' effects. Some cultures get mostly violent from alcohol, some gets mostly talkative some gets relaxed etc. It's based on what the culture believes that the effect is.
>>7408775
Ex-alcoholic here (70-90 drinks/week @ 6ft 140lbs)
Once you are out of college keep the drinking to the weekends only. I got a job in nightlife and it was only when I went on vacation with the family did i realize I had a problem and decided to fix it cold turkey.
If you think hangovers suck, try withdrawal. You have horrible headaches you can't control, shaking, and nausea all day. You can't sleep through the night and you are wanting another drink constantly. It is not a place to be
i'm down to just drinking on the 2 nights a week now (still in nightlife), but I can't keep any alcohol in the house or I will finish a bottle in one night. The longest I was able to go was 4 months without drinking until i got my new job.
also my alcoholic boss goes through 3 handles of Bacardi a week and he hasn't been able to successfully quit yet. Just recognize it, before you go too far down the rabbit hole
>>7412504
Yup. And this is also why people perceive "different kind of drunks" with different alcohols. Like when girls say "tequila makes me take my clothes off". No, just that tequila is most likely more available in parties and situations such as that. You'll never hear someone saying "I was sipping tequila neat, and the next thing I knew, I was naked!!"
>>7409612
It depends where I am and what the situation is. I used to take shots of cheap vodka and whiskey easily when I was around 21 but now I'm 25 and they make me gag. If I'm at my dorm room or back home while my parents are home I'm only able to drink cold alcohol if I have purchased it cold and it hasn't warmed up yet so I drink a lot of 40s when I want to get drunk cheaply but the past year I would down a $10 6pack of 7%+ abv craft beer a night. I drink New Amsterdam vodka a lot because I can down a warm 30ml shot with a chaser easily and I can sit at my computer and down a whole pint in less than an hour. If I buy cognac I can sip it but most whiskey is gross to me after I drank so much when I was younger. I like to buy a bottle of Gatorade and a cheap pint of vodka and I drink a little bit from the bottle and fill it back up with vodka. By the time all the vodka is in the Gatorade it's more vodka that Gatorade but I'm buzzed so I don't taste it.
Over the summer when I was back home working and my parents would leave for a few days I'd buy a bottle of gin and all kinds of mixers and I would just get blitzed making martinis, gimlets, and gin and tonics. If I have the privacy to make my own simple syrup and juice limes and shake cocktails I love gimlets. I put 2.5oz of gin in each gimlet and 3oz in each gin and tonic.
tips? so we can at least do this right.
- eat chips/crackers/salt/nowater so you are thirsty as fuck and can down beer/strait liquor out of thirst
-instead of painful off-putting shots. pour shots 1/2 liquor 1/2 ice-water. make sure to drink twice as many shots, or you're doing it wrong
-beer, or an easier drinking liquor as a chaser
-wake up to about a litre of cool/lukewarm water right next to your bed to down immediately
- don't eat too much before drinking, for a few obvious reasons
- car keys, wallet, cell phone all set aside in an easy to find place in the morning
- remember if you fb, text, etc while drunk and make a fool out of yourself you'll feel so awful you won't drink again. Easy solution: don't do any of that shit, you'll notice there was no negative consequence to getting drunk and it will be totally safe to do again, with no regrets.
- drink in the morning when you wake up, starting very slow, into a steady pace as needed
What do you go?
>>7408101
Doesn't alcohol thin the blood, which would make the fissure far more likely to bleed?
Even if it doesn't, I'd probably try to cut down on it, it might not kill you but it sounds like it could fuck your system up.
>>7412627
>>7406091
Definitely this. Waking up instead of "coming to". Feels good.
I did SERIOUS drinking for 10 years. I'm talking like 700ml 80 proof 5 nights a week. (I think that's what Americans call "a fifth"). I don't know how I'm alive really. My body is fucked now as I have a huge bloated gut that isn't there due to fat. I think it's probably my enlarged liver or something. Also my circulation is fucked and I'll probably lose my legs later in life (I'm 40 now).
But last year I slowed down a lot and now I've been sober since new years eve. I always had a huge tolerance to the stuff which was the main problem.
>>7403868
I've cut back heavily through the weekdays, having said that I've had 5 beers and 2 bourbon and will probably have 2 more but that's a massive improvement from a bottle a night. Next step is to quit entirely however I have three big weekends coming up over the next month and it's senseless to try and go cold turkey before then because I will be drinking. No sense in trying to say I won't drink because I will. March 29th looks like the time to try and quit for an extended period.
>>7408157
>i'm gonna quit drinking, bros.
>unless something really bad happens
I'll tell you what's going to happen there. You'll quit. Then on day 2 something, ANYTHING, will happen and you'll convince yourself you deserve a drink because of it. Even if it was something as small as catching an amber traffic light.
I know how that one goes.
>>7408191
>Do you guys get hangovers?
Nope. I wish I did then it might have deterred me a bit more.
I was always fully functional the next day. Never sick, never had a headache. The only thing that could afflict me was still being drunk, if I'd hit it hard enough the night before.
However in the 9th and 10th year, I found that the next day I'd be short of breath, SEVERELY unmotivated to do anything at all, and my joints felt like they had sand in them.
730, first one at work as always. Another day of looking like death. I wonder if my coworkers know im always on the booze cruise. Alcohol isnt even keeping me asleep all night anymore.
I hate this shit
I've been a heavy drinker for years, but starting right around Christmas, I really started hitting the bottle hard. Day, night, morning, hard liquor. Lost my job, and can't get my shit together at all.
I had a really bad episodes two days ago. Woke up sick as a dog around midnight, puking with no appetite, could barely stand, fever, insomnia, anxiety. Pretty shitty. Someone finally brought me a high dose of Klonopin and I was finally able to sleep. I woke up and went to class and crashed.
Really trying to resist the urge to drink right now, I can feel that itch growing. It's not even 8 AM yet.
>>7413324
Know that feel bro. Doc put me on benzos to deal with withdrawl anxiety and i just used them to get high
>>7409359
>rehab 2 months ago and I've already relapsed
>>7407084
>relapsed a couple of days ago.
feels man. i'm probably older than you lot, it's really fucking me as i get closer to 40.
5 weeks yest since i got home from detox, from a binge starting aged 15 with booze n' beer daily, and ending with 2 bottles of smirnoff, and up to 30-100mg of diazepam, 2-7 grams of weed, .3 grams of crack and .3-.6 grams of heroin daily, 22 years later. 5 weeks since i stopped it all... except booze. even after kicking all that stuff, i pulled the trigger on another bottle 4 days ago and haven't been sober one waking moment since. i just cannot be without booze apparently, and it instantly destroys everything about my life. in 4 days i've managed to have the police bang my door so hard they smashed off the letterbox, i've almost had the shit kicked out of me after kicking off with some pro fucking boxers (fortunately they just laughed at me), i've walked head-first into traffic in an attempt to pester random strangers, i've annoyed the hell out of people i care about, i never fucking sleep properly, i have to get up 3 times a night to piss and 30 times to drink water, i have to drink within 30 mins of waking or i get DTs, i normally have a pint of vodka next to the bed for the moment i wake... fuck, this textwall could go on forever. it's hell, it's absolute hell. fucking 4am and i've had 8 pints.
>>7413607
I'm sorry to hear that anon. Are you bipolar?
>>7413611
That's for whining about your lack of self actuation.
>>7413618
thanks. and nah, or at least not diagnosed. not sure i'm even depressed, just enduring the agony of alcoholism for the hell of it, apparently.
>>7413607
Why don't you keep a big bottle of water next to your bed to avoid getting up so often?
>>7413636
i've always got a 2 litre jug full of water next to my bed, but i wake up again and again needing more. alcohol totally fucks your sleep. it's why i used to use benzos on top, just to practically induce a coma every night.
>>7413207
What did you do on the two days a week you didn't drink a 5th? Seems odd such a heavy drinker would go cold turkey for 2 days a week in that situation.
Congrats on stopping. That must have been tough
who keeps a puke cup in their car to heave bile into on the way to work here?
Maybe this doesn't qualify as alcoholism. But here is my story and how alcohol saved my life.
probably best to start the story at the age of 17. carpentry school. My life was shit. i could not pay attention in class, nor learn or consentrate while working. it felt like i had a blockage in my brain. Preventing me from using its full potential. to make the story shorter lets just say i couldn't function in school, on work in social occasions for 4 years. at this time i dint drink much. Where i live alcohol is expensive and a bit hard to come by before the age of 18.
after 4 years of misery i joined the army. dint touch a drop. but my year in service went well. and i would say that's the only thing i've achieved. then came one year of work. i dint really drink. maybe once a week.
after one year in work i met an english guy who had moved here. we got to know each other and that summer i joined him on his trip back home.
where he used to live, drinking was quite common. and i spent 3 weeks there just drinking and partying. in those 3 weeks i lost my virginity, found a girl, made more friends than i had done for 4 years and managed to get control of my social life. when i got home i got a raise, and continued to work for a bit.
my mind block was gone, i could have normal conversations, i felt confident and could pay attention.
now i drink about 7-8 liters of beer every week and my life is just great. im full of energy, i have friends, ive made huge progress in work and education. i haven't gained any weight, and im not depressed anymore.
Alcohol might take my life after a while. But it sure did give me one
>>7413891
Well, la-dee-dah, Mr. "lost my virginity and have friends." Maybe Reddit will be a better fit for you.
>>7413898
probably, im sorry "alcoholism" didn't work as well for you
>>7413898
maybe my dick would be a better fit for your ass, pussy boi
>/ck/ food and cooking
Booze isn't /ck/ related.
[Spoiler] I'm just bitter that we can't have tobacco threads [/spoiler]
12 pack of Coors Light a night right here. On weekends I splurge and get 20 packs that I nurse throughout the afternoon and night. Mondays are horrible. About 10 sober nights total in probably 10 months or so.
Any tips for not having your pancreas explode?
>>7413955
Drink less. Have a few days not drinking per week to let your body recover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA5vMVg5qeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7mgN12J7UA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0E0uEBi724
>>7413955
>10 sober nights total in probably 10 months or so.
>the way those mornings feel; 'oh wow, this feels amazing, i'm gonna stick with sobriety'
>2 days later 'lets celebrate my newfound ability to live without alcohol, with 1 glass of wine.'
>1 hour later, in cell/on ward, blood everywhere, friends hates you, house razed to the ground, liver protruding from abdomen, weapon protruding from forehead
also, can anyone relate to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRgnmnOi0k8
i have my agnostic's anonymous chip, but it's a christian conspiracy to recruit more christfags. nhs meetings are better. no religious stuff. consider what would happen if mosques started inviting large numbers of desperate people, and doing the same kind of thing that happens in AA but with an islamic religious theme. cannot into christfag.
>>7411950
By drinking small amounts of liquor.
>>7412122
At least it's a cheap brand.
>>7413978
thats hard as shit, i had an easier time just laying off the booze altogether. i made a decision to try and limit it to a few drinks a week but that fell through much easier than when i stopped for a few months all the way
>>7413611
>being this new
/ck/ has had regular alcoholic threads for fucking years.
I halved my wine intake by doubling the price/bottle. now I get to drink really good wine and not constantly poison myself. average price/bottle ~30USD. one instead of two/day.
>>7413611
OP here. Me.
Had a few beers (over a few hours) with friends last night. First alcohol I've had in over a week. Hit me harder than I expected at the time and upset my stomach this morning. I guess I should have stopped at one or two. Still hoping I can make this transition from heavy daily drinker to social (a few drinks 1-2x a week) drinker.
I really need a job to fuel my habit.
>>7414238
brah. tried this. what's your preferred wine? chateauneuf du pape is the nectar of the gods
Just bought a carton of beer for this evening. I don't drink very much during the week but I go through two cartons (24 bottles ea) over the weekend.
>>7414254
>not becoming a cryptocurrency trader and 'going to work' in bed, naked, alone, half-asleep, high, doped and drunk.
scary stuff anon.
I'm trying to get in control of my life. I'm sick of feeling strung out, feeling the repulsive acid reflux (and going through Mylanta like crazy as a result), having low energy, needing drinks to go to sleep, but most importantly, I'm sick of the crippling fucking depression and self-doubt. There's so much negativity already in the world, getting wasted only helps you realize it four times as hard times as hard the next morning. I just want out.
>>7414665
Theres no getting off this ride bro
I'm turning 21 soon. What are some good brands of vodka, tequila, rum etc. that taste good and won't break the bank?
>>7414808
Pretty much anything middle-shelf is fine.
>>7406083
>who else here nosebleeds when drinking?
I sometimes get it the morning after, I'm guessing it's because I get too dehydrated.
>>7414808
Doesn't matter as long as you hate yourself.
>>7414273
Chateauneuf du pape is some good shit. However, I personally am in love with the Loire Valley. More wine makers need to pay attention to natural/native ambient yeasts and spontaneous fermentation. I love Cabernet Franc in the $20-$35 range myself.
>>7413891
A-are you me?
Minus the joining the army, British guy, and being stuck in carpentry school (I'm at a regular college)
>>7414808
My personal favourites with a good cost/shit ratio:
Vodka = Stoli
Whiskey = EZRA BROOKS
Tequila is for spic whores and rum is for wannabe pirates.
If you wanna be hella cheap; malt liqour and bum wine.
Malt Liqour = Olde English 800 or Mickey's, I like Mickey's better
Bum Wine = Wild Irish Rose or Mad Dog 2020, both are shit
What is a good budget bourbon besides old crow?
>>7414970
Im glad alcohol has helped then. If one could say such. How long have you bin drinking heavily and have you seen any bad signs with it?
>>7413769
Haha, I don't do it anymore thank God, but during my blazing alcoholic period I kept a few vomit bags in my car for this exact reason. Fuck, those were some really bad times.
I realize you guys probably are tired of getting these questions all the time, but would any of you be so kind in giving some suggestions to a whiskey newfag? I want something that has a fairly mild taste if that is possible. I found a couple in the lower price range that my local liqueur store is carrying and was wondering which you guys would recommend. Inverness Cream, Peter Dawson Special, Upper Ten Scotch Whisky or Original Lord Calvert?
I could look into other suggestions as well, but I live in a small European country with high regulations on alcohol sales, so the selection probably isn't the best.
>>7416531
Lord calvert is a good start. Two tips when it comes to drinking whiskey for the first time, or if you want to to become a whiskey drinker.
1start with small amounts and wathercit out 1/3 and keep drinking it less and less deluted.
2. Drink with food or on a full stomach.
And just "suck it up" if you dont like it from the start.
>>7413769
After cutting way back, I had a couple too many drinks the other night not really realizing my tolerance has gone way down. Sat in my office the next morning debating if I'd be better off puking in the bathroom, at the risk that a coworker comes in and realizes that I am puking in the bathroom, or walking four blocks back to my car to puke in a plastic grocery bag. Ended up just sitting on the toilet for about half an hour and the need to puke passed. Still felt like shit the rest of the day though.
anyone else honestly feel like they might be dying? i've already got brain lesions and shake 24/7, but for the past 4 years or so i can barely even open my fucking eyes if i'm sober. no idea why but when i open my eyes, they're so exhausted that my vision goes blurry, my ears ring, i shake like mad and end up throwing up. as soon as i'm smashed again they're fine.
>tucks into second 70cl bottle of vodka for the day
>>7403868
Been sober a couple of weeks, Valium detoxed myself. going good, taking vitamins, exercising , getting fit. Only because my body needs a break every so often. Drinking 3 bottles of vodka a day takes it's toll , been doing this for 15 years, luckly I'm blessed with an iron body that refuses to give up. LFT and cardiographs are perfect. Only if I could say the same about my mental health.
But I'll last another few weeks then get back on it. As I can feel the urge to drink rising daily, it's only a matter of time.
day 5 sober, this shit is so god damned boring. how do people do this
what is wrong with being buzzed or drunk at work if you still get your shit done???
>>7416772
>at work
what a waste
>>7416769
>Valium detoxed myself.
you mean you (actually, anyone in this thread?) used valium instead of booze?
have you done so before? what's your experience of withdrawal from benzos?
>>7416772
>day 5 sober, this shit is so god damned boring. how do people do this
i just managed almost 5 weeks, and while i'm now back into the hell of vodka from morning to night, I AM NOT SURE which is fucking worse. the nightmare of being drunk/hungover 24/7, and being not only bored out of your mind, but massively more than that, not being able to fucking sleep. not sure i know the exact definition of sleep, but i'm pretty sure that the entirety of those 5 weeks, i didn't 'really' sleep once. i was kind of... half-asleep for a few hours here n' there, but i can't remember a single time i remember actually passing out then waking, the entire time was just kind of... one, long, boring, hellish, somehow conscious but feeling like you've been run over by a truck, 5 week long nightmare. it was a different kind of pain than alcohol, but it was brutal as fuck in it's own way.
i guess given that we as humans are essentially just a load of chemicals, then to have one chemical flowing through your body every night, kind of becomes a physical, necessary part of you if it's there for long enough. i think the impact of this on the human body and mind is probably underestimated, and as such people still get so pissed off with alcoholics and drug addicts like myself. we're a pain for sure, but yo we want to stop, so if you accuse us of having no self-control i think you do so not realising that it may well literally be the case, for biological reasons yet to be understood, but that to be angry at what is entirely a disabled person, is just, well, it's a shit thing to do.
this vid goes on for ages, but if you've never heard of alan watts before, this is thread-relevant and unless you're a pleb you'll find yourself hooked on his other unrelated, numerous lectures on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKuuguZAeO8
>>7416842
I don't every take benzo recreationally. so when my body has given up and I just can't take the booze, and if I just stopped drinking cold turkey I would most likely die. Tried it before, had seizures nealy died. so here is the method
>Day 1 - 40mg 3x Daily, Morning , afternoon, night
>Day 2 - Same as Day 1
>Day 3 - 35mg x 3 Daily Morning, afternoon, night
>Day 4 - Same as day 3
>Day 5 - 30mg, 3x Daily Morning afternoon, night
And basically keep dropping 5mg every second day and on day 17 You have take nothing, and be sober for a while.
Valium detox is used in hospitals with a nearly identical system. Xanax or Librium can also be used, but I thing the Valium is best as you basically sleep or are so fucked you don't care for the first 5 or 6 days, and they are the worst when stopping the booze.
>>7417024
>Valium detox is used in hospitals with a nearly identical system.
only 5 days. i was put on 4 weeks worth. found out i was addicted, found out how fucking amazing it feels to be high on booze and benzos, so used both for something like 16 years.
>>7417024
Valium in hospital is only during about a week. It's as addictive as booze, so they cut you off quickly.
The dose on the first few days is set up based on how much you drink, but they can increase the dose if needed (if you're used to benzos for eg.). Then you have the idea.
>>7417087
>a week
i was given a month's worth. feel nice together. shame it's like, all deadly n' shit.
i stopped drinking for the entire month of december, which wasn't too difficult.
but ever since i hit that "one month" justification, i let myself go and again started to daydrink cheap liquor throughout january. now, i only drink cocktails at night with my wife.
bless her, she's an asian so she doesn't like to drink, but she's trying to do it with me so i don't lose control. also started to drink iced tea through the day so i still feel like i'm drinking something.
>>7417087
The inpatient detox centres I've been in, one was 17 days of Valium, the other 3 were 12 days.
It's a sliding dose so they are effectively detoxing you off the Valium as well. They use benzo's to detox you off benzo addiction as well.
The same as tapering the booze with booze.
>NHS at it finest.
>tfw too drunk to post anything more than this
i should really kill myself
>>7417107
hang in here buddy. sounds like an awesome wife
>>7417303
thank you very much, she is. i hope you're well too.
>>7416875
>muh addiction, I'm powerless
No fuck you. Negative stimuli resulting from lack of neuroregulatory response from your concious habits is still all on you. You can decide to ride through that hell and get straight, or continue on the path you're on.
>>7417454
>i am all powerful
>>7407380
>takka
Fucking gross
>>7417292
"no"
>>7409369
I really like this. The name is accurate with regards to the taste
27 here. still get drunk 2-3 times a week. don't think I have problem, since I still like my comfy nights where I don't drink. some nights, like tonight, I'm just too tired to get drunk. waking up at 5:50 am will do that. may just have a couple Surlys while I play Xenoblade before calling it
>>7413891
Sounds great my man. Kind of similar to what happened to me. I would reccommend however that 4-6 litres would be a more sustainable average in the long term. I'm not talking about health effects either, I'm talking about mental health. I felt like you at first - full of beans all the time because I had so much going for me. After a while, that amount of alcohol begins to take its toll on your mind. I was an alcoholic for a year and a half before I even realized, and then it started getting really bad i.e. daily drinking.
You don't need to quit if it isn't causing you trouble, just be mindful of your excess because you sound like the kind of person who might be prone to all sorts of problems. Honestly, just trust me. You currently require alcohol to enjoy life - as much as you don't need to be drunk to be happy, you depend on the drunken experiences you have and have had in order to remain content. You are super happy now and that's great, but you will wake up one day and you will be miserable again and you probably won't even see it. You will become less and less content with your life and will only begin to see this when it's too late. Even then, you won't put it down to alcohol - you will just keep drinking more to solve your "genuine" problems, forgetting how comparatively little you needed it before.
You seem to be doing great at the moment so I wouldn't want you to quit drinking. I just want you to manage how much you drink, how much you depend on it and to appreciate the advice of somebody who was just like you and has been to hell and back dozens of times.
Don't let all that alcohol has done for you and can do for you be what keeps you going - even if you still enjoy the time and the things you do between drinks.
