If you have access to an independent butcher, fucking use him
I'm never going back to supermarket meat
I dunno, the independent meat places I've been to were subpar. I knew people that worked at them, they weren't unsanitary but the shops just seemed trashy. At least with supermarkets you know they keep it clean and upright to avoid bad press
>>7270993
I do and it's great stuff. Problem is that they specialize in bulk, so I can't just pop in and get a single filet or a smaller portion cut for days when it's just me. The yuppie grocery store sells individually packaged steaks, not to mention all the other things I usually need. So the butcher only gets my business around holidays/times when I'm planning to make a shitton of food.
>tfw no deep freezer because dat city apartment life
Agreed. I had this revelation a few months ago. Feels good trying new crazy stuff every weekend. They smoke and cure all their shit in house and it's all so good. Best corned beef I've had in my life. A little expensive for everyday protein needs but getting bacon and sausage and meat for the grill and cured meats and deli meat and duck fat is like an addiction. Guanciale changed my life.
Do supermarkets in America not have a butcher department?
Any respectable store here in Canada has a dedicated butcher department.
RCSS, the store I work for, has a bakery, a butcher, and a deli.
We have an excellent butcher shop in my town. Problem is it's the only one outside of the grocery stores. You take a number, wait for 30-40 minutes in the shoulder to shoulder tiny area before they ask, "Yeah, wadda ya want?" They rude and expensive so I stopped going there and began doing all my shopping at Meijer right across thee street. The meat is just as good. The butchers are friendly and helpful and you can get any cut of meat you desire. It's less expensive too.
Fuck the butcher shop.
>>7271022
Yeah, they do. Though the quality varies a lot from place to place. Sometimes the "butcher counter" has a fancy display case but they don't do any actual butchering onsite; the meat is ordered in and they display it. Other places have a full-service butcher counter that's just as good as an independent butcher.
>>7271022
Yes, we have the exact same things.
can I really trust an independent butcher if I can't even trust restaurants?
It tastes the exact same as buying from a grocery store.
Sage for shit thread full of pretentious fucks.
I just googled a local butcher, and they are literally unironically selling Jack's BBQ sauce.
>Paying two times the price for the same cuts of meat
Why would I make it harder for myself?
>>7271060
Go in there and tell the owner that jack sucks a bunch of dicks and doesnt know how to cook his own fucking food.
>>7271060
Proof why supermarket butcher > pretentious independent butcher
>>7271060
kek don't go there. probably selling spoiled meat.
I used to. Then the shop burned down and he didn't re-open. Now I have no butcher within a sensible distance.
Life is suffering.
>>7270993
Right with you. Stopped eating supermarket meat over a decade ago. A good butcher knows what's good. He knows he got a deal on that chunk of beef where only some of the steaks cut from it could really qualify as Prime, and can pass that on to you. He also has better sources for bacon and if you're lucky makes his own sausages. If you're really lucky he can source heritage breed free range chicken that tastes better than anything you'll find in the supermarket. It's more expensive, but I'd rather eat less tasty meat than lots of meat that doesn't really taste like much.
>>7270993
>At least with supermarkets you know they keep it clean and upright to avoid bad press
This is the same thing McDonald's has going for it - they're not selling you on quality, but on fear about hygiene. I can see why a squeamish person might choose a lower quality product over a higher quality one if the lower quality one seemed more hygienic, but I'm not squeamish.
>>7271009
>They smoke and cure all their shit in house and it's all so good. Best corned beef I've had in my life.
You've found a winner.
>>7271022
>Do supermarkets in America not have a butcher department?
They used to, but it's fast disappearing. Very little actual butchering is done in most supermarkets these days.
>>7271047
No, not really. Some butchers are simply front-ends for the same supermarket suppliers. One thing they might do to differentiate is grind their own beef, and offer specialty products like sugar cane soda, special seasoning mixes and sauces, and maybe even have a sandwich shop or smoke their own meats. Butchering their own meats is extremely rare, and I would wager most people in this thread are drinking the kool-aid in that regard.
It's just like farmer markets reselling supermarket produce. And it's completely legal!
>>7271130
>Butchering their own meats is extremely rare, and I would wager most people in this thread are drinking the kool-aid in that regard.
What sort of hell hole corporate dystopia do you live where you can't find a butcher who will literally butcher a cut in front of you?
Or have you actually never even tried and don't know what you're talking about?
>>7271138
Depends on what you mean exactly.
Pretty much any butcher will have, say, a whole pork loin and then can cut chops to your specifications from that loin.
On the other hand, finding a butcher that starts with the whole animal is a different matter altogether. In most Western countries the majority of the meat is broken down into wholesale cuts at the packing plant and then those are shipped to the "butcher".
>>7271138
>literally butcher a cut in front of you?
Want to guess how I know you've never been to a real butcher? You completely gave it away.
>>7271157
My butcher cuts the meat in front of the customers too.
Perhaps it is you who is telling a fib.
>>7271157
>Want to guess how I know you've never been to a real butcher?
Want to guess how I know you're a moron?
I can (or could, before it burnt down) go into my butcher and ask him to literally cut a steak for me, right there, right in front of me, as I watched.
Any decent butcher will do it, and will also trim, clean or even mince. Right there in front of you. And I know this for a fact because I've stood there and watched my butcher do all of those things for me.
So I guess it was answer 'B' then, wasn't it?
>>7271162
If your butcher is not working directly with the farmers and processing the meat on location, then he is not a butcher in the strictest, technical sense. Cutting a piece of meat isn't the same as butchery. This is how supermarkets can hire people who don't actually know the trade. Training someone to cut a piece of meat to specification is quick and easy. Dressing an animal beginning to end is not.
>>7271168
Wow, so your "butcher" bought an entire rib section (for example) from a meat plant, put it on display, and cut it to your specification.
Enjoy your overpriced meats.
>>7271182
Wrong. Your whole post is self-invented nonsense.
>>7271188
Then tell me why that is so rather than simply stating it.
>>7271130
>Butchering their own meats is extremely rare, and I would wager most people in this thread are drinking the kool-aid in that regard.
No retailer is breaking down whole animals bigger than a goat these days, that's for sure. But there are plenty of places with sides of beef and half hogs in their meat lockers. But even reputable places have cardboard boxes full of large cryovac packed cuts there, too. The fact is some cuts sell better than others, so breaking down whole animals doesn't make economic sense.
But a good butcher still has an advantage over the supermarket. The supermarket has to compete on price. Customers will choose one supermarket over another if chicken breasts or ground beef are on sale that week. So the supermarket has a huge incentive to sell the cheapest meat possible. The butcher's customers are less price sensitive, which (ideally) allows the butcher to sell better than commodity grade meat. This will be the case with a good butcher.
>>7271204
You've made one point that is worth noting.
Restaurants get the best cuts followed by meat markets (so-called "butchers) then supermarkets then the canning industry.
So it's conceivable that you might receive a better product (i.e. grade of meat) than found in supermarkets. If I can't get USDA Prime, then I walk out.
>>7271204
Hardly anyone is breaking down whole animals. As a previous anon said the VAST majority of meat is sold wholesale by the package/slaughter plants and further cut down to consumer pieces at the local butcher.
>>7271192
>the work of slaughtering animals and preparing them for sale as meat.
>and preparing them for sale as meat
>preparing them for sale
>>7271237
>and
>>7271240
Oh I'm sorry I assumed you were literate. Try this longer explanation:
https://collegegrad.com/careers/butchers-and-meat-cutters
>Butchers and meat cutters cut and trim meat from larger, wholesale portions into steaks, chops, roasts, and other cuts. They then prepare meat for sale by performing various duties, such as weighing meat, wrapping it, and putting it out for display.
>Butchers and meat cutters cut and trim meat from larger, wholesale portions
>>7271249
Your definition doesn't contradict my original point of the modern "butcher" being a glorified meat cutter.
tfw leaving the butchers' with a fat ribeye steak
I'm going to ask for a 2 inch thick steak next week then boil it in a bag
>>7271228
>Hardly anyone is breaking down whole animals
There are plenty of halal butchers in my neighborhood that sell the animal to you live, slaughter it and then break it down for you. That's why I said no one is breaking down anything bigger than a goat. Goats are the largest animals they have live in the shops.
I am looking forward to the day when I have a reason to buy one.
>>7271301
>Never even mentioned it before
>Now it's suddenly the point you were trying to make
Okay.
>>7270993
He's mediocre and overpriced. There are great ones, he's not one of those.
>>7271022
>Any respectable store here in Canada has a dedicated butcher department
No they don't, they're a joke.
In my town there is pretty much only one supermarket chain. And you don't ever get to talk to their butchers. They put out what they put out and fuck you if you want anything else. Also the meat is really hit-or-miss. It's designed to look clean and bright but is often flavorless.
So say I want to make a traditional PR pernil. Well, if they have the cut they took the skin off. Fucking useless. Or I can use Boston butt, which has a slightly different flavor, and guess what? Still not enough skin. I don't know what it is white people have against pork skin, but I'm imagining a dumpster behind the supermarket that's just full of this shit.
So what am I to do? I go to the small-time butcher. I can request, and get, exactly the cut of meat I want.
>>7270993
I love my butchers stuff but it costs double what I pay at the military commissary. Prime rib eye steak is 30 dollars a pound at the butcher and 12.99 a pound at commissary. I make decent money but I can't justify paying 2.5x the amount for generally the same meat, especially when I'm cooking for a family.
>>7271372
I don't get it, are you saying any respectable store is a joke, or that a butcher is a joke?
EEither way you're a fucking retarded child that eats pizza pockets and KD. I know you're type you fucking troglodyte.
>>7270993
The independent butcher across the street is just plain awful. I dont know where they get their meat from but it tastes like shit.
They cook lunch and dinner menus fresh every day which are allegedly nice and thats how they manage to stay in business.
The local supermarket has a butcher in it and that meat is excellent so I just go there
As someone who has specifically worked in the butchery section of a supermarket, I would strongly warn you that gross shit does happen on a regular basis. Some of the meat is fine, but some things are taken off the shelf the day before it expires, coated in flavoring then given another 3 days extra. Obviously highly illegal, but trust me, it happens a lot.
Also, supermarket mince meat. You're far better buying the pre-packaged stuff than our fresh stuff. The one we made was literally made from scraps of whatever we had lying around, or sometimes they sent 'beef trim' in for that purpose which was disgusting stuff. It's often put through the mincer 3 or 4 times just to make it look edible.
The cutting block was only cleaned once a day, near the end. So if you have an issue with your meat being coated with blood of other animals, there's another thing that people don't realize happens.
Lets see.. what else. When you ask someone to check the fridge to see if they have something you want, i'd say roughly 50% of the time when they say no it's a lie. Usually because they can't be bothered, or there's stuff you want already out on the shelving so they want you to buy that instead. And if you don't check the date on products, there's always a chance you're buying something out of date because there are people who don't check properly in the evening when they should.
>>7271422
Also, the sad thing is, this was a reputable supermarket.
>>7271422
You worked in a shit hole.
Are you American by chance?
At my store none of this happens. Everything is clean and on the up and up.
Then again I live in a first world country (Canada), so it's probably different in America.
>>7271427
>Walmart
>>7271432
Sure kid. Make sure to ask your mom you want your KD al dente tonight because you're feeling like Italian.
>>7271436
Morrisons actually. UK supermarket.
>>7271445
>Morrisons
>reputable
kek
Even Iceland have more class than Morrisons.
>>7271445
Don't lie. It was a Walmart down in Arkansas.
>>7271445
>UK
Not surprised.
Probably ttoo busy sucking immigrant cocks to run a proper store.
How many of your daily calories were provided by the bulging testicles of brown skinned immigrants during your employment there.
>>7271454
I'm not going to argue in their defense, I absolutely loathed everything about working there. The senior management are some of the worst people i've ever met in my life. But they did have a hell of a lot of customers.
>>7271466
There was no foreign people working in our store, the town I live in is pretty immigrant free. Although, when I take a train to somewhere bigger like Manchester, it's a different story.
>>7270993
Mine's a lady. She's the coolest. Always calls me sweety. The place has been family run for generations.
>>7270993
My local butcher doesn't sell chicken though
>>7270993
Found couple one of which specializes in all things German. Kinda interested in getting their sausages
with the exception of pork products, all the meat I buy is Halal.
I just find that it's better quality than the shit you buy at the supermarkets.
inb4 hurr durr its sandnigger meat
I get free meat from my grandpa.
I literally pet the bulls that feed me.
They're slaughtered right there on the property and then immediately sub zero packed.
City rats will never know this feel.
>>7271704
I find the opposite. And most halal butcheries don't smell clean, either. Not as bad as Chinese butcheries, but still not nice.
>>7271716
the one I go to is clean, I've never been to a chinese butcher though so I can't compare
>>7270997
this is my problem too with my local butcher
>>7271336
sous vide makes steaks so fucking juicy
tried it for the first time a few weeks ago
>what does /ck/ use to post sear?
>>7270997
>scared of a butcher shop
>eats factory farmed chickens that literally live in their own shit and on top of other dead chickens and processed entirely by machine
the irony of cityfags never ceases to amaze :^)
>>7271060
Fully stocked, looks like its not selling so well.
>>7271739
If the weather is appropriate, I'll use the separate burner on my grill outside and get my cast iron skillet hot af. That way I won't have to worry about the excess smoke.
>>7271130
OP here
i mean you're probably right, but i still value being able to buy any cut i want, the more specialist stuff they have like proper stock, and being able to get freshly ground meat and handmade sausages
>>7270993
>going to a supermarket for anything apart from staples
there is your problem OP, find a good market or two and avoid supermarkets for everything if possible, stop giving those greedy corporate cunts your money
>>7271832
I go to the supermarket for toilet paper, toothpaste and cleaning chemicals.
This really depends.
If I'm just buying broiler chicken or chicken livers then I'll stick to supermarkets due to stamped use by dates giving me an idea of freshness, fast sell through, cheap prices and even markdowns nearing use by.
If I want steaks then I can buy whole muscles from the independent meat market and process them to my desires. I love that.
So yeah, red meat I definitely buy from the butcher. There's a few butchers I love (for sydneybros I like the meat emporium, Sam the Butcher, Vic's and Pendle Hill Meat Market).
But if it's something like chicken, unless you're paying like $50 for some unique breed, there's little in the way of textural taste and nutritional difference between your cheap as shit supermarket broiler and your organic free range skinny ass butcher chicken.
>>7271832
>stop giving those greedy corporate cunts your money
I wouldn't put it like that, but I agree. Most of the food in a supermarket is trash. Why would I want to shop for food at a place that sells mostly trash? Fuck supermarkets.
>>7271743
>Thinking the origin of animal products differ between local butchers and supermarkets in 2016
That may have been true in 1996 but not now.
>>7271223
Every supermarket I've ever been in sells Prime grade meat. I have no idea what you're on about.
>>7270993
I'll give you a tidbit of wisdom. Independent butchers aren't there to serve the general populace. They exist to serve restaurants. I live in a part of the world that revolves around cattle and ranching. There are so many butchers. But you can never buy their "good stuff" because it all goes to restaurants. You can buy AA-quality meat no problem but none of them will sell you any AAA because ALL of it supplies local groceries.
The kicker?
They all use the same fucking meat the supermarkets around here do. They'll buy a cow from the same fucking farm that safeway buys it from. There is no difference.
Costco is a different story. It's all american meat (I'm not american) and some of it is disastrous quality while some is quite good.
>>7271372
There is almost no difference between a super market butcher in Canada and an independent butcher. They have the same credentials and often work with the same product, even. You can walk into almost any Canadian supermarket with a butcher and watch them take apart half a cow, segment it and grind the hamburger.
>>7271708
Feels good man. I never had cattle growing up but most people around me did. Anytime I want to buy half a cow or whatever I just ask them and boom I got a freezer full of a cow that I pointed at earlier in the day.
>>7271857
Depends on the butcher. Some butchers can tell you the farms the meat was raised at. Most can't, but still offer Prime meat that the average supermarket can't/won't get. The halal butchers have live chickens, rabbits and goats. The Chinese butchers have heritage breed free range chickens for $12 a bird that come from Chinese run farms and taste better than anything from the supermarket. (pic related)
>>7271881
>Want to buy whole chickens because stock and organ meat
>Can only buy gutted (organs NOT included in a separate bag), headless, feetless birds from specialty butcher
>Actually costs more per kg than the bird from the supermarket even though that product has been processed more and has less undesirable parts
I fucking hate economy of scale so much.
>>7271887
Why bitch about it? Just buy what you want. If it costs more have chicken less often. I only buy chicken a few times a year, so when I do I make damned sure I'm getting exactly what I want.
>>7271661
This isn't Tip Top Meats is it? That's the German butcher shop near me.
>>7271987
carslbadfag detected
>>7271990
Oceansidefag actually, but I gladly drive the fifteen minutes for tip top.
I have a butcher but the problem is its really expensive and his product just isn't as good as the grocery store. his meats are less flavorful
>>7270993
Recently discovered a place in my town that rears their own livestock and runs a butcher 3 days a week, think I'll go check it out.
>>7271860
No they don't. It accounts for less than 3% of meat produced in the U.S.
Supermarkets get Choice and Select.
>>7272013
Siesels in PB is great but expensive.
>>7272256
My supermarket has the choice and select meat wrapped but has prime NY strip, rib eye, and tri tip behind the glass.
>>7270993
We got one in my part of town (still a 20 minute drive) and I never even heard about it until it closed after a year of operation. I'm not sure what is more to blame. Lack of advertising, crappy location, city that is primarily concerned with name recognition, or the fact that they couldn't weather things out a bit longer. I mean, you gotta have no bank account or not sell a damned thing most days to not be able to stay open for over a year.
>>7272268
Same here. They keep all the prime cuts at the butcher counter and the choice/select stuff is packaged in the coolers.
>>7271096
If I'm pretentious for the regular business I give my local butcher, so be it. He's knowledgeable. He's practical. He understands the competition and prices accordingly.
I understand the quality of sources varies from place to place. However, it must be known; A shop devoted towards proper choice, handling, and preparing of meat will substantially improve your chance of a quality and gratifying steak.
Though this may come as obvious to most (hopefully) co/ck/s here, not enough of these overlooked and under rated assets of our communities are supported.
I see a loss of the local butcher within the next 10 years. A devastating precentage of livestock buying power will belong to the supermarkets. Onwards, the vote for agriculture shall become subject to lobbyist ideals even further than they have already been.
What was in that drink earlier?
I'm just hungry guize.
>>7271704
>literally a picture of Kevin
>>7270993
>independent butcher
>various meats
>try to price match to sales of other places
>always fucking get shot down
I thought it was about loving the meat but they're just as greedy as the big stores
>>7272456
It's not a matter of greed, it's a matter of being able to make a profit and keeping the business afloat.
Independent butchers can almost never price match the sale prices for meat at a supermarket. They can't even come close to purchasing the same volume of meat as a supermarket does so they don't get the same level of bulk discounts.
If they tried to price match sale prices from supermarkets, they'd take a loss on everything and might as well just close up shop and go out of business.
>>7272481
I agree somewhat, especially with the quality prime cuts. However my neighborhood butcher tries to charge $5.50 a poind for fucking brisket, and not even flat cut brisket, this is before they chop the fat off. That's got to be over double what he's paying for it.
I don't use an independent butcher, but I will soon.
http://www.theherbivorousbutcher.com
>>7272503
If you don't want the fat then why buy brisket?
>>7271704
I personally buy kosher, because I know that jews aren't selling the cheap shit to each other.
>>7271872
>You can walk into almost any Canadian supermarket with a butcher and watch them take apart half a cow, segment it and grind the hamburger
Please tell me where I can find this in Calgary because I have never seen this anywhere. Hell, I worked at a grocery store during summers in college and I never saw anything even remotely like this, and I worked in receiving, I knew everything that went into that store.
The only time I use an independent butcher is when I get stakes or that ground hamburger with more fat in it(since they only have lean in supermarkets). If it has loin, round, roast, or chuck in the name, I get it from the supermarket. I also get chicken or turkey anything from the supermarket. I get my fish from the local asian stores(we have a lot in California).
>>7272503
It probably depends on where he's sourcing it from.
Some butchers get high quality or specialty meat.
The spectrum can go from cheapest shit out there to $20/lb for the cheapest stuff off the cow.
I want to become a butcher but there's no standalone butcher shops near me
I dont. Worst part is I cant get any cuts like oxtail or primals unless I special order or order online.
Well I guess that makes sense for bigass things like primals, but offal and oxtail is impossible to find.
I only go to my independent butcher to have game processed. Otherwise the guys in the supermarket know what they're doing and will be able to get you obscure cuts.
Not until they put prices in their store or online. I went to a butcher once and got slapped by a $50 bill for 5 lbs of chuck. I can get it for less than half the price at a grocery store.
>>7272534
I want some fat, but a flat cut brisket has like 1/2 inch of fat typically and is more expensive than a whole brisket because the whole has tons of fat that just need to be chopped off, and adds to the weight. I've been cooking brisket for years and anything over 1/2 inch in my experience just melts off and doesn't add anything other than a mess.
>>7272630
if you're in a rural/semi rural area, then there's a fucking butcher plant around, so check into that
>>7270993
There's a butchery near the metal shop I work at. I go there for cheap fuggin sandwiches. I would never purchase meat from there, because it smells worse than my work station.
at least companies dont pull shit like this http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-butchers-aka-marlon-meats-organic-meat-feedback-discussion-999078/
there are good ones but also many bad ones
>>7271987
No its called German Sausage Co. Found another butcher shop which has dry aged meat
>>7271060
The fuck is up with the Campbell's soup?
>>7270997
>tfw my local supermarket failed inspection several times
>always tried to hide the inspection grade they were required by law to post behind a display hoping people wouldn't notice
>I always took down part of the display and commented on it to passers by with a large shit eating grin on my face
>stared employees right in the eye daring them to do something about it
Just becuase it LOOKS clean doesn't mean it IS clean.
>>7271026
This. At least in America "mom and pop" independent anything act like complete entitled shits. Like "oh, thats ALL you are buying? yeah thats gonna keep the lights on" or they will try to upsell you on something and get pissy as fuck when you don't bite.
I am sure there are good butchers, and my local one has a stranglehold on the lamb racket but their sausages and brats are 3 times saltier than the store's and twice as expensive. Also yeah, it didn't look that sanitary either.
Same for fishmongers, fuck you and your $10 a pound salmon that I know you get from the same distributor as the supermarket cause we are landlocked.
>>7273208
dry aged is truly the greatest loss of the last century. Thankfully with steak its slowly creeping back into the mainstream, but it would be really nice if all meat went back to dry aged like lamb, mutton, and even poultry (no more than a day or two)
too much damn water its near impossible to get perfect browning and concentrated flavor without the right equipment, and even then I dare you to fill a pan with chicken and get the other side to brown.
>>7270993
>Lived in hispanic controlled city, suburb of chicago (Aurora)
>redeeming place called The Wurst Kitchen
>muh sausages and meats man
>over 120 years old, and you can order in German
>move to missouri for career
I miss it. Never underestimate what you have. More varieties of sausage than a LGBT convention.
>>7272518
I'm just going to guess that their meat free meat
product is as bad as all the other meat free meats
on the market. Just chew the cud already.
>This thread
Should I just give up entirely?
Pic related.
what about mail ordered butchered beef?
I don't go to butcher shops often, but sometimes they do have better deals on better cuts and have much better prices than something like whole foods if you're looking for things like cow tongue. Otherwise, a chain supermarket is usually the better option.
Now, when it comes to fish or fresh produce in my state of South Carolina you'd have to be fucking retarded to choose the supermarket over a farmer's stand or fishmonger. It's always cheaper and better tasting at the local markets than the Publix because that shit was fished up and put on ice literally moments before you walked in the door.
>>7273670
You can't send a butcher through the mail
As an Aussie, my local butcher is pretty bro-tier. The meat is cheaper than the supermarket, it's"better", you can customise how you get it, they sell all sorts of meat I can't get usually (pork shoulder, lamb shanks, etc) and also they're pretty helpful in suggesting things to do with them.
Now that said, I've had butchers that were shit-tier so I'm pretty fortunate to have this shop close to me. It's mostly youngish people working too (the owner's sons/their mates) which helps.
>>7271739
cast iron pan, highest heat setting
the only reason i have a cast iron pan desu~
>>7272716
>Not until they put prices in their store or online
What butcher *doesn't* do that?
>>7273476
Post a picture of yourself. I want to see your face acne.
>>7273825
>butcher
>constantly updating their internet prices
Is this a bong thing? Where I'm from prices change from time to time, which is why everything is written by hand.
>>7273892
He said in the store *or* online; what sort of butcher doesn't show their prices in the store?
His clearly didn't because he didn't know he was paying $10/lb for chuck.
>>7273895
But unless you are using that "or" in the strictest, most pedanterist sense, you're clearly implying online is an option. So I ask again: what kind of butcher publishes a current, detailed list of cuts and exact prices on the internet? Are your butchers a bunch of millennials who tweet and omeagle their way into the hearts of potential customers? Can you also watch your butcher break down a primal via kik?
>walk into local supermarket in Maryland
>see they have St. Louis style ribs labeled as baby back ribs
>point out the error to the two assholes working there
>have them tell me that St. Louis and baby backs are just two names for exactly the same thing
>there is no difference
>mfw
>>7273899
>Unless you mean or in the actual definition of the word, you actually mean something completely different
are you fucking retarded? if the guy meant both he would say and not or you dipshit.
>>7273948
>Unless you're shitposting on 4chan or I'm the God-Emperor of Arrakis, the moon is made out of green cheese
Do you see how the technical usage of "or" is actually kind of different from how normal people mean it in real life?
>>7273952
I don't know if places like that exist in my city.
I can't find it on google.
>>7273952
Or means if A or B (or any other terms) are true, then statement C will be true as soon as any of the terms are true.
And means if A and B (and any other terms) are true, then statement C will be false as soon as any of the terms are false.
This is the most basic of basics in logic, or do you think logics and computing are some quantum machines in which AND and OR statements are interchangeable with one another?
>>7273964
In some English sentences, unlike modal logic, when you introduce a proposition, it's assumed that it was introduced for an actual reason, and not just to make the sentence longer, or to make a clever point about truth conditions and logical operators.
So I guess you were just adding the "online" bit to make witty remarks about quantum computers? How nice.
>>7273825
>Britons paying 11 pounds per kg for chicken breast
Ausfag who lives in one of the world's most expensive cities and pays AU$9.99 (ie: 4.5 pounds) p/kg for it. I didn't realise meat was so expensive over there, or is that some boutique scam meat shit?
>>7274378
Meat prices are weird bro. There's a lot of factors that influence it, and even cities in the same country can have drastically different meat prices even if everything else is pretty similar.
>tfw no access to an independent butcher
>>7274378
You can get cheaper at Asda or Lidl.
Some places really scam you because it's the most popular type of chicken meat
>>7270993
he speaks spanish and he didn't understand what i wanted.
>>7273483
where do you live where the locals are this terrible?
>>7276377
Planet Earth
>>7273918
well whats the difference, genieus?
>>7276377
5 will get you 10 he lives in the northern states. Another fin that it's in the new England area.
>>7270997
the little independent shops are inspected just like the big supermarkets. and the little shops usually have better quality meat, and know how to cut better.
>>7276918
Little shops are frequented less often than mega marts and chain grocers. That means infrequent rotation of product. You get less fresh and more expensive foods at those little shops.
You can lie to everyone else but don't lie to yourself.
>>7276959
what? they just buy to their sales. i was a meat cutter/manager in a small grocery store, but it works the same at small meat markets. you get to know the trends, days of the week sales even, and you buy so you never have more product than you'll be able to sell between trucks. the stuff in small markets doesn't sit any longer than in big stores.
>>7271060
Wait a minute that sauce..
>>7276995
So you did a good job. Congratulations. You're not everyone else. What you're defending is your personal experience and that's fine. I bet you were right on the money. But the majority of small shops fit the description and circumstances proffered by me.
