Is pizza technically an open-faced sandwich?
>>7078868
No.
It's pizza.
>>7078868
Good luck, le hungry toddler!
it's italty's take on the welsh rarebit
If I could do photoshopping I'd put a birthday candle on that pizza.
>>7078868
Considering an open-faced sandwich isn't technically a sandwich, then yes.
But no.
>>7078868
Technically you don't put a sandwich in an oven, so no.
A pizza is technically a focaccia, a bread baked covered with ingredients
>>7078933
And a focaccia is technically an open faced sandwich.
>>7078937
No it's not.
>>7078939
Yes, it is, you greasy wop. Technicalities are why your people built worthless shit like Carcanos.
>>7078868
Is gelato bread?
Ban Pizza threads
>>7078937
nigger you are retarded.
Is a sandwich technically a closed face raw pizza?
>>7078937
Nope.The technics are not the same. You have to bake the dough and the ingredients at the same time to make a focaccia or a pizza.
But if you want to know what is technical in here, it's your idiocy.
>>7078976
this is how OP sounds. thanks Anon
Surprised to see a pizza that large so evenly cooked. Usually the novelty sized ones look like a trainwreck
is this a pizza?
>>7078996
It's a Bready Garden
>>7078996
That looks unnecessarily hard to eat.
Is calzone a sandwich?
Is a bagel a sandwich?
Is kebap a sandwich?
Is hotdog a sandwich?
Do hotdogs and kebaps become sandwiches if I cut them open entirely?
If i put a pizza on top of a face down pizza, does it become a sandwich?
>>7079006
The other way around for the last one
>>7078868
that's big
>>7079008
>>7079010
Pickled jalapeno slices are a criminally underrated pizza topping
![002[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/d24jM7O.jpg "002[1].jpg")
Another intriguing question is: what the fuck is a crepe? Is it bread, like a tortilla? Or is it a thin cake?
>to be so young and innocent
>to not know heart burn or even the sour stomach after a night of binge drinking cheap vodka
>>7079037
its a very thin pancake you cráp
>>7079038
I'm such an alcoholic haha. Hold me, fellow al/ck/oholics! The feels!
>>7079043
Enjoy spending your childhood on the internet.
You'll regret it later.
>>7078976
Considering pizza is a subset of sandwiches, it can be, but not necessarily.
>>7078977
So a Monte Cristo isn't a sandwich? Gotcha.
>>7079006
Are you a fecking captcha
>>7079040
10/10
I thought pizza was a pie, hence the term "Pizza Pie"
>>7079119
You are correct, but pies are a type of sandwich. It's a bit like evolution, everything is a shit flinging ape.
>>7078868
Only autistics think like this.
>>7079128
please go fuck yourself.
>>7078987
yeah, for a pizza to be this perfectly circular, the dough must come prebaked industrially.
The oven might be electrical, and of course professional size.
>>7078868
Is ice crean technically cold milk?
>>7078868
Is this a rite of passage for American children: locked in a room with a massive pizza and not allowed out until they're finished?
>>7079069
It's a fried sandwich, all the ingredients are technically already edible the way they are, not a baked rolled out ball of dough covered with sauce and cheese
>>7079208
No it's slightly melted cream at absolute zero.
>>7079185
>sure is quiet now johnny's gone
>marianne it's been 2 years. we have to move on.
>>7079144
Tried it, doesn't work. Turns out sex is like a sandwich, you need at least one piece of bread, or "crust" for a pie, to stick the meat on.
>>7079208
No, no it's not.
>>7079208
What the fuck is ice crean?
>>7079378
You're clearly either not having sex right, or making sandwiches right.
>>7079402
You want to be my top bun, bb?
>>7078996
Nice garden. How'd ya eat it?
>ITT: People too autistic to realize a term can be vague and still be meaningful
>>7078933
>Technically you don't put a sandwich in an oven
Congratulations on being the most retarded person in a retarded shitposting thread.
>>7079211
Yes. Then they will be baptized in diet coke.
No but it's a type of pie.
>>7078868
THERE ARE MULTIPLE BORDER INCURSIONS ALONG THE EQUATOR BOTH SIDES HAVE VIOLATED SOVEREIGN TERRITORY OF THE OTHER DEFCON II IMMINENT WAR LOOKS INEVITABLE PREPARE NOW THE SAUSAGES ARE OUTNUMBERED BY THE PEP AND JALAPENO HORDES THEY MAY MAKE A VALIANT STAND BUT IF OVERRUN THE AUTHORITIES CANNOT GUARANTEE YOUR SAFETY
>>7079184
>those pepperoni
>>7078868
Yes.
I started this sandwich thing and it pleases me that it has gone so far.
no
pizza is leavened bread with toppings baked on it
>>7080573
an open faced sandwich is leavened bread with toppings baked on it
All wrong, Pizza is based on the german Fettbemme so technically it is a Stulle
>>7080582
That's just things on bread, the word sandwich need not be involved
>>7080600
A sandwich is just things between bread. So what?
If you don't like it, you could always make up a new word for open-faced sandwiches and see if it catches on.
>>7080615
Pizza
>>7079884
Are pizzas called "pizza pies" in most of the US, or just certain areas? I tried calling in a sausage pie when I was visiting family in Montana and the person at the pizzaria was confused on what I wanted.
>>7080582
baking is not a defining property of open-faced sandwiches
>>7080685
Only on the East Coast.
>open-faced sandwich
>literally the only defining feature of a sandwich are the two slices of bread
>Americans trying to invent words again
>>7080685
You really don't want to know what you asked for in Montana-speak, kind of lucky the kid played dumb.
>>7080764
>Hotdog sandwich
>One piece of bread/bun
>Sandwich wrap
>One piece of flatbread
>>7080918
Hotdog sandwich isn't a sandwich, it's a hotdog in a bun. No one calls it a sandwich
I have no idea what a sandwich wrap is, sounds like some clapistani shitfood to me
>>7078868
no
>>7080941
A hotdog in a bun would be a sausage wrapped with two buns.
to sandwich, as a verb, clearly means between two things, therefore the entire concept of an open faced sandwich is ridiculous
>My wife was sandwiched between two black bulls
>My wife was in an open sandwich with a black bull
the second makes no sense
bread =/= sandwich
>>7080941
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/03/is-a-hot-dog-a-sandwich-nature-america
Must suck choking on nothing but halal foods.
>>7080941
wrap = tortilla with veggies and coldcuts inside.
basically a hipster burrito
>>7080941
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog
He called them "Dachshund sandwiches", but a New York Post cartoonist "couldn't spell dachshund, so when he drew the cartoon, he called them hot dogs."[17]
>>7080966
>Grauniad
>comment is free
top lol
His argument is that you shouldn't quibble about definitions yet that is exactly what he does. Either you define a sandwich as a thing between two piece of bread, or you don't. I do since that is the only consistent definition in keeping with the verb 'to sandwich' in the English language
>>7080976
By that standard, do you only consider pancakes to be only pancakes when they are dropped straight to the ground or flattened via collision or mishap, as is the definition of the verb 'to pancake'?
>>7081003
to pancake is hardly a common verb, to sandwich is.
>>7081003
No, you are reading the logic the wrong was around. To pancake is to make something like a pancake, not to make a pancake. To sandwich is to make something like a sandwich, ergo a sandwich must be defined as something between two other things.
>>7081009
I hear that used quiet a bit, never been much for the kek scene, so sandwiched as a verb is usually only used on mass transportation, but I'm not judging you at all.
>>7080966
>But if we accept that a neat meal package of either hinged or wrapping breads or the classic two-slice model are the ontological bases for a sandwich, suddenly we must introduce new food to that classification – arepas, banh mi, a disruptive new egg roll out of Shanghai the size of a football or an infant. The sandwich evolves and broadens as we do, without abandoning the intent that informs it and animates it. A hot dog is a sandwich. A taco is a sandwich. God bless them, God bless America, God bless sandwiches.
Are you really following the logic of someone that thinks tacos and arepas are sandwiches?
>>7081027
A taco is a sandwich, amigo. Just because their brown doesn't mean they don't have feelings.
>>7081019
>A sandwich is defined as something between two other things
So cold cuts are sandwiches? Pizza sauce is the sandwich between the cheese and bread?
>>7081030
So you consider this a sandwich.
>>7081032
No, the verb 'to sandwich' is derived from the noun 'sandwich' which is defined as stuff between two slices of bread. To sandwich something is more losely defined based on the noun, but obviously not limited to bread.
>>7081036
That's an open-faced sandwich (or pizza, if you happen to be OP.)
>if it has bread on both sides it's a sandwich
>>7081043
That's an open-faced air sandwich
>>7081043
That's coated in bread crumbs, not between two distinct slices of bread. topologically different
>>7081036
Do you not consider this a sandwich?
>>7081054
If folded, no. If sliced in half and one placed face down atop the other, yes.
>>7081038
Sorry, you have been disqualified due to the inability to English. Try again next year when Hirohito reverts us back to Japspeak.
>>7081060
So if it is folded what is it? And if I slice a taco, or it breaks in two, what do I have?
>>7079884
Wikipedia also lists Pizza salad as a coleslaw, North European Sour Creme as Sour Creme, and many other sins.
>>7081066
If it breaks in two it becomes a sandwich.
>>7081054
Not yet. But you can tell it's about to be folded over and that's when it can accurately be described as a sandwich.
4chan in charge is discussing the issues that really matter.
>if i don't know what to call it i can't eat it!
>>7081078
I'll try to argue this the next time I'm in Reynosa.
>>7081048
Sandwiches don't need bread.
Example: In-N-Out Protein-style Burger
>arguments about sandwiches descends into ontological and topological discussions
never change
>>7081082
That picture gave you enough to conclude the constructive intent of the foodstuff alleged to be a sandwich? What if it was made by a person with OCD tendencies that did not like to combine peanut butter and jelly, but understood perfectly well that it was a sandwich nonetheless?
>>7081095
What if you gave us your definition of a sandwich?
>no love for panzarottis
>>7081095
That person you described would use two seperate slices of bread to avoid combining the ingredients. Cutting that single slice in half would also be acceptable.
2/10 for sucking me into this trivial shit. Bye. I've got a date with your mum.
>>7079037
Crepes and tortillas are pancakes
>>7081103
>microwave a calzone
>wala~
>panzarotti
>>7081095
>a person with OCD tendencies that did not like to combine peanut butter and jelly
The jam is sitting on top of peanut butter. You in charge of noticing detail.
>>7081113
Crepes, yes. Tortillas are not pancakes.
>>7081122
Yes they are.
They are a pieces of dough cooked on pans. What would make them not pancakes?
>>7078868
>somebody ruined a pizza of this size by making one side nothing but sausage and the other shitty pepperoni and jalapenos
disgusting waste
>>7081100
Simple lad, a food, typically consumed as a finger food, that is composed upon one or more pieces of edible serveware.
>>7081119
You are correct, but I lack those critical OCD tendencies. I still think we lack the critical evidence that proves the person, or persons, responsible intended to fold the bread.
>>7081126
They contain eggs, and are usually softer. Tortillas are just flat bread. Crepes and pancakes are not used in the same ways as tortillas.
>>7081137
Pancakes don't need eggs to be considered pancakes and they don't need to be used in the same way.
>>7081160
You can make a bunch of arbitrary changes to recipes, but it still remains that pancakes generally contain eggs and are used for sweet dishes, and tortillas are flat bread generally used to wrap up food and dip into hummus or whatever.
>>7081175
Generally does not mean always. And it's not arbitrary considering you're the one objecting to tortillas being pancakes simply because they do not contain eggs.
>>7081184
They don't contain eggs, and they are used differently.
Tortillas are generally not like pancakes or crepes. they are part of the flat bread family, like all the other not sweet, not rich or fluffy, plain dough breads.
I'm sure it differs by culture, I'm just saying you go ask around, nobody calls tortillas pancakes, because they aren't made to be like pancakes, they don't taste like pancakes, they aren't used like pancakes.
>>7081208
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancake
>>7081211
>ctrl+f
>tortilla
>no results
What a surprise.
Flatbreads (like tortillas) are also usually kneaded and shaped before frying them. Pancakes are usually made with batter.
>>7081228
Read the definition and look at the examples. Here are some that don't use eggs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bannock_(food)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnycake
And the difference between a dough and a batter is liquid content.
>>7081248
Bannock and Johnnycake are labelled as flat breads in those articles, and yet are put on the pancake page. It's very difficult to categorize everything perfectly.
Crepes often contain eggs, I think we can agree on that. Tortillas rarely contain eggs, I think we can also agree there. So it makes no sense to call them both pancakes.
Have I mentioned recently that they are used differently? Do you often go to a retaurant and order a big old stack of TORTILLAS with maple syrup? Or specifically order burritos made with crepes?
>>7081292
>So it makes no sense to call them both pancakes.
Based on what? I already proved you wrong.
>Have I mentioned recently that they are used differently? Do you often go to a retaurant and order a big old stack of TORTILLAS with maple syrup? Or specifically order burritos made with crepes?
You can do those things. You can make sandwiches out of tortillas and crepes. You can chop em up and fry them. Doesn't change what they are because they're used in a different way than intended.
>>7078996
What is this stupid shit?
>>7079074
>>7079078
>>7079080
Loli loev pizza
>>7079128
Pies are not sandwiches you stupid retard.
>>7081318
Based on them having more in common with flat breads than pancakes (eggs, dough consistency, use). Based on every definition of tortilla ever that called them bread and not cake.
You can do those things but nobody does. Nobody would eat a stack of tortillas. You can make a sandwich out of cake, but that doesn't make it bread.
>>7081349
Eggs and dough consistency are not unique to pancakes and I already showed you that pancakes do not need eggs to be pancakes.
Cake is bread though.
>>7079184
>those champagne flutes
I can see myself being a third wheel or something drunkenly devouring that while I giggle to myself in the corner watching television while my mate and his 1 night stand try to attempt forplay
>>7081354
That's how you make the majority of crepes. You put eggs in it, and you make a thin batter that you pour onto a grill. Like a pancake.
Tortillas are made with dough that gets kneaded, and flattened out, then grilled. Like a flatbread.
You don't need eggs to make pancakes but most of them do contain eggs. Almost no tortilla or flatbread recipes contain eggs. So it makes sense to differentiate between the two.
Cake is not bread. Is it technically a kind of bread? Sure. Just like a pancake is a kind of bread, and a tortilla is a kind of bread. And buns, and pretzels, and crackers, and chips. They are all their own individual things however.
>>7081380
I'm not denying that crepes are made with eggs. Not all pancakes need eggs and a thin batter just like I have already shown you.
Yes and that makes them pancakes too. Tortillas don't need to be kneaded because they traditionally don't use leavening or use chemical leavening if they do.
>You don't need eggs to make pancakes but most of them do contain eggs.
Finally you agree
> So it makes sense to differentiate between the two.
Yeah and somehow that means they're completely different things?? You keep getting confused for some reason.
Cake is bread. What specifically about cake makes it not bread?
>They are all their own individual things however.
And they're still all related.
>>7079355
Write books pls
I've been on 4chan since 06 and this is one of the best threads I've ever seen.
>>7081437
Almost 10 years senpai, how's your life been going?
>>7081398
Most pancakes require eggs and batter, if they don't they've been placed into the pancake group for other reasons, or because they didn't fit anywhere else. Like that Bannock, which is more of a quick bread.
A tortilla has so little in common with the pancake group. And they absolutely do have to be kneaded, how else would you mix the dough. Just like pancake batter needs to be stirred.
>Yeah and somehow that means they're completely different things?
Yes. They are separate things. A tortilla is not a pancake or a crepe because they are so different, and it is a flat bread because they are so similar. They might not be perfectly different, or perfectly similar, but it's close enough.
>Cake is bread
There are variants of each that toe the line but generally speaking cake is not bread. If you call a birthday cake a loaf of bread, people will think you have mental impairments. But banana bread, yeah sure, that's probably a cake or a bread.
>And they're still all related.
And yet different. Why call them pancakes when we can just call everything made with flour bread? Why do we call ourselves humans when we're just apes?
>>7081457
I'm only 23, I was underaged b& for a long time. I literally grew up on here, for better or worse. Much of the terrible parts of my life I could trace back to here, but also most of my knowledge has been from here, not always directly, but just being exposed to different information. The hatred and angst here is insane but I still come back.
I browsed /b/ for years as a teenager, then it was /fit/, /lit/ and /ck/. /trv/ and /out/ off and on, recently a lot of /sci/ and /biz/.
Also some /mu/ and /tv/ back in the day.
Dang, anon, got me all sentimental.
>>7081476
Similar to me desu, 4chan has educated me a worrying amount
>>7081457
I'm going bald!
>>7081060
So if you cut up bits of a sandwich while preserving the bread-on-both-sides rule, would you have lots of very small sandwiches or lots of pieces of one sandwich?
>>7081517
They are simultaneously pieces of a sandwich and sandwiches in their own right
>>7081466
Most does not mean all and batter and dough vary in their liquid content. We've gone over those points multiple times.
I was wrong about the kneading thing. I thought you meant specifically kneading for a long time to help give the final product its structure, not simply mixing and combining the ingredients.
>A tortilla is not a pancake or a crepe because they are so different, and it is a flat bread because they are so similar.
Tortillas and crepes both use a starch, a liquid, and are cooked on pans. Wow they're so different that they cannot be considered pancakes.
>There are variants of each that toe the line but generally speaking cake is not bread. If you call a birthday cake a loaf of bread, people will think you have mental impairments. But banana bread, yeah sure, that's probably a cake or a bread.
>What specifically about cake makes it not bread?
I can only imagine the reason why you think they're so different is because most cakes use chemical leaveners but those are not unique to cakes. Cakes often used yeast before the invention of chemical leaveners.
>>7078959
>Carcano
>Worthless
Worked well enough on Kennedy
>>7078996
I fucking hate when people pull shit like this of and then go "Use your utensils"
It's a fucking sandwich
>>7081881
It's not a sandwich
>>7081884
fuck you
>>7081292
I put syrup on fried flour tortillas coated in cinnamon sugar sometimes, I guess that makes it a pancake by some magic function.
>>7081543
>He believes the Oswald story
technically broccoli is a flower.
>>7081228
>frying a tortilla
It will no longer be a tortilla, it will be a tostada
>>7078868
No. It's technically a pie.
>>7078868
Your mom is an open-faced sandwich.
>>7078868
I thought merilards decided pizza is a vegetable.
>>7083416
What part of the definition of a sandwich precludes it from being vegetarian or vegetable in nature? Why do Yuropeons try to muddy arguments like they were their bloodlines?
>>7082791
I think u mean tart
Or is sandwich just two pizzas?
#mind=blown
>>7080594
That´s correct anon.
if i was given these slices i'd take the hint and leave
>>7083449
A sandwich is just a prefolded new york slice
>>7079006
yes all of the above
>>7079030
pickled? they have zero fucking heat. youre an idiot
>>7083427
A meal being vegetarian does not make it a vegetable.
>>7078996
Who the fuck would eat that?
>>7080969
Wraps are hipster? Fuck you and fuck bread (most days).
>>7086327
>zero heat
Food can be moderately piquant without burning fun your tongue you faggot. Pickling complements the taste perfectly.
Is chili technically a ragù with cumin and peppers?
>>7078868
No, it's actually babbies first food.
>>7078996
>some pretentious healthfag shot right there.
I can feel the smugness.
>>7079128
Kek
>>7081292
Want a Crepe burrito.
>>7089171
Not if it includes beans.
