Who /dishwasher/ here?
>>7052949
i was till last month
I love my dish dogs. Hardest working shitheels around. Would buy OP a beer and a shot.
>>7052949
I was a Dish washer at SeaGalley.
Fucking beaners.
>>7053027
Thanks mayne, that means a lot. At least at my current job, I'm treated like a human being.
>>7053378
Yeah, we get a staff meal. No beer, though.
Can someone small handle doing dishwashing?
>>7053387
Depends both on the place and how small you are. I worked with a girl who was less than 5' tall, and she could do it just fine.
>>7053387
yes. i work with skinny female dishwashers. they do fine.
>>7053393
I already do prep in the mornings, in the afternoon and evening I do dish. You seem like a great guy, Anon. I hope things go well for you.
>>7053395
>>7053398
Awesome, thanks.
Dishwashing is the most miserable job I've ever had. I would seriously kill myself if I had no choice but work a dishwashing job.
>>7052949
I worked dishwasher for a little over a month, it sucked and I wasn't that good at it and it was also pretty stressful
it's probably because I'm not mexican
>>7053552
the people I was working with were pretty nice though and I was treated well by my coworkers
Do they not have dishwashing machines at restaurants?
>>7053556
they have dishwashing machines but they need people to put the dishes in the machine and take them down at a fast pace
>>7053547
For serious. I've done the same. Hell on fucking Earth some nights.
>>7053547
Why miserable? I think being a construction labourer is much more miserable.
>>7053027
Agreed
If we have a wine dinner & there's a shit ton of dishes at the end of the end of the night all the line cooks jump in & help with the dishes while we drink beers with them.
You guys are the backbone of the kitchen, thanks for your hard work
my dish shift starts in 50 minutes. On weekdays I worked my way up to line though. But I love dish sometimes. It's like dancing. Of course I work in a small diner and 300 covers a day is busy
>>7052949
i'm a sous chef at a high end/fine dining joint, and i just wanted to tell you that you and the people who do what you do are seriously the literal backbone of any kitchen. without you dudes doing your shitty, underappreciated work, it wouldn't be possible to have a restaurant.
pay your dues, eat shit, and keep your head down.. embrace how shitty the work is and how much you dislike it, but do it anyway. it builds character and it's the only way you'll ever be a respectable line cook/sous/exec chef (if that's what you want).
seriously dude.. i just started washing dishes at 21, worked up to prep, went to another place for fulltime prep, went to another place to work as a fry cook, moved again to a fine dining joint as garde manger before moving onto the hot line, and now i'm here. never went to school, and i usually work circles around people who went to school because of work ethic.
even if they don't always give you a pat on the back, the people above you always notice somebody putting in the extra effort and eating shit that nobody else wants to eat.
good luck m8
I was hired to do other things and dish-washing was apart of the job description but literally all I do at my job is wash dishes for 6 hours, because everyone else is really slow and shit at it. I would be slow and shit at it so I wouldn't have to do it., but it's all I do, so I'm pretty sure they would just fire me.
I just left my dishwashing job at a local bakery/cafe. I also did line work and prep work but dishwashing was always my favorite. Can't really make a career out of dishwashing, though.
Resturant manager here.
Let me just say that dishwashers are literally the backbone of the kitchen. Why prepare and serve food on dirty dishes?
Protip: never use a rag to clean. Only thing you need is a scratch pad.
>>7054412
scratch pad? you mean steel wool?
>>7054412
Then why are the good ones paid like shit.
Washed dishes myself to pay for college (lol hardly any money ended up going to the college, it was all spent on rent and ways to mitigate the stress of work like cigs and beer). Two years of kicking my ass into gear every night. Nothing to show for it besides some burn scars. The kind of work effort demanded does not match the near minimum wage pay.
Left the kitchen, got a job at a cafe for 9.50 an hour, and chilled the fuck out while finally making some savings from quitting all the smokes and booze. Better yet, got my degree in geology and on my way to making 90k for two 3 month contracts telling mines what to do and why you do it.
>>7054437
not even him, but because it's the easiest thing in the world to do? all it takes is a little bit of effort; zero skill required.
that's totally your fault you worked 2 years in the dish pit instead of trying to make moves to other more desirable positions.. washing dishes is easy as fuck, i definitely miss it sometimes
>>7054445
I had rent to pay and it was 2008 fun fun financial crisis time. Was kicked out of the house as soon as I turned 18. My mother didn't want me around anymore, which was fine since she's a living loaded stress bomb.
Doing dishes quickly and well is a skill all its own. My manager would constantly tell me how important I was how valued etcetc. It was all a trick to keep a quality worker at low pay.
A bachelors in geography is an easy, fun degree to work towards and boy are they in demand across the world for mining operations. Yeah I was a dumb kid with no support desperate for cash, easily exploited.
>>7054473
i mean, yeah.. it's a skill and there's a slight learning curve, but it's just brainless labor. it's important, but IMO it's the same as hanging drywall after somebody else does the framing.
fuckin easy
>>7054478
That doesn't mean that the ones who do it well don't deserve better wages. You make more as an office jockey that spends their entire day on their ass and only works half the time.
>>7054485
do they? i mean, how much money do you expect for doing something anybody could do (given they put in the effort)?
most people aside from mexicans who wash dishes in the industry have hopes to score a dishwashing job in a nice restaurant and then use that as a stepping stone to get into cooking.
idk what you're doing as a white guy who just washes dishes and has no higher aspirations as far as kitchen work is concerned
>>7054506
i'm gonna call bullshit on that dishwasher wage.. that's what good line cooks make. where in ohio?
i live in seattle now, but worked extensively in cleveland and cinci
>>7054508
You can call all the bullshit you want. I pay my line cooks around 16.75-18.00/hr.
I pay them good because they do more than wash dishes, they clean pretty much the inside and outside of the restaurant.
Besides our hours are perfect, waste is low and everything is efficient. People fail to realize that will save you a shit ton on money.
Lima area btw
>>7054521
so what's your position, then?
i'm sorry, but that sounds incredulous.. $18/hr for a line cook? why not just put them on salary?
and what kind of restaurant is it if you don't mind my asking? how many people staffing the line for a busy service?
i feel like 99% of the time you're gonna be put on salary if you demand over $15 an hour at an ohio based kitchen.. and that's in the city, not lima (no offense)
if you really do pay your employees that well, then fuck yeah brother.. hopefully they know how fortunate they are
>>7054536
See >>7054412
The only cities that line cooks can get paid good are Cinci, Colombus, and maybe Akron, based on the demographic you're serving. I operate on the west side of Lima where there are richer people. Fine dining, and usually on a busy Friday or Saturday evening, I'll have between 7-9 on line. But I don't pay them that rate starting out. Those getting paid have been here for at least 3-4 years. Most usually go to bigher and better things across the country.
Most people don't appreciate the hard hork of being in a kitchen, that's why I pay them and also I set high standards that make them bust their ass for their money.
>>7054561
what you're saying doesn't add up.. how many covers are you doing where you have 7-9 people on your line? what are they all doing? what kind of food (pics?)?
sorry for grilling you, but if what you're saying is true, i need to ask for a raise.
BTDT
First tax paying job I ever had. There'd be times when the place would get so packed I couldn't keep up, and the line cooks would have to jump in and help.
I remember the first time I looked at the clock right before the evening rush kicked in, and the next time I looked at the clock. when we slowed down, two hours had passed, but it seemed like 15 minutes....crazy shit.
>>7052949
>no floor mats
I'm an executive chef at a Michelin starred restaurant and I just wanted to say that you dishwashers are the backbone of any good kitchen
As much as I detested this job this thread is making me nostalgic. The cig breaks. Giving heroin addict coworkers rides home and listening to their insane stories. Fucking a batshit crazy hostess. Damn.
>>7055397
It's obviously the start of the day/end of the night.
Do you work in a place where the floor mats are left down and not washed every night?
You can even see them rolled up on the bottom shelf.
>>7054416
steel wool? you mean space pussy?
>>7052949
When I was a busboy as a teenager one of the illegal dishwashers whipped out his cock in dry storage and asked me to suck it.
>>7055443
>Dishwasher Confidential
everyone whining about being a dishwasher: what the fuck do you think they're paying (were paying) you for?
>>7055467
Space pussy? You mean Daemon earwax?
>>7055478
Well did you?
>>7055532
I politely declined. He was kind of dejected.
It was a thick monster of a dick though, if I was a flamer I would've pounced on it.
>>7053383
But I was really excited about that end-of-shift beet. :(
>>7055517
daemon earwax?
i think you mean "robot pubes"
>>7053378
No. I get a "thanks, good job" while I'm still elbow deep in macaroni water and the chef is clocking out at 10.
The pay isn't great, it's not glamorous at all, and I spend most of my time smelling on the outside how I feel on the inside...but I get all the free garbage I can eat! Some fat cat threw away a $20 pizza yesterday. Now it's mine!
I used to be a dish dog at a casino in Deadwood when I was a lad.
It was a shit show, owned by a brother and sister who got it as a present from Daddy (who had made his money in mining).
Went through two chefs and more cooks than I can count in the brief time I was there. FoH and the gaming section was worse. The wait staff changed on an almost weekly basis.
>>7052949
Used to be. Got hired as a cook, but I usually ended up washing dishes because the niggers that got hired to wash dishes spent more time in county than in the dish pit, and because the rest of the kitchen were candyass little queers who did their damnedest to skate off at the first chance.
>>7053547
Honestly this. I washed dishes in a tiny asian place. Thankfully I don't work there anymore. Will never make that mistake again.
>>7056978
>pizza down economics
One of my dogs did this masterpiece over the three compartment sink. Follow your muse gentle dish wranglers and godspeed. Also, I NEED APP PLATES TO SELL!
>>7057485
I hope he cleaned it up and sanitized the wall afterwards.
Washed dishes when I was 16, holy fuck that shit was god awful, stay away
>>7057928
>he thinks they don't have to clean the entire area before leaving
>>7058076
Just making sure.
>>7053547
For real. Every time I walk past the kitchen in a restaurant and I smell that combination of stale food and that shitty detergent we would use, I get extremely triggered. Fuck that job, time goes at least twice as slow during rush
>>7054305
not exactly a dish pit then is it, but keep it up
was a dishwasher in a real nice restaurant for the three first months, started out when i was 16, kept looking over my shoulder at what the cooks were doing and tried to help out as much as i could. then i got promoted and right now am working as a cook/cook's helper. also got a raise, so that's nice. it's been around 8 months and the last five of which I've been constantly learning new things and doing my best at the kitchen. planning on going abroad after finishing grade school. was thinking of northern France or Belgium. any ideas on this matter?
am from Latvia.
pic semi related, was makin' samosas for a banquet.
>>7058679
also, I never really thought that the dishwashing job was miserable. I always took pride in my work, and tried to do it as good as I could and as quickly as possible. Heck, once I got a 60 bucks cash from Art Smith himself because I was dish dogging like mad when my chef threw a euro-pride preparty in the place. Also, my chef is an American, so he got in touch with those guys. I felt like the world gives me a blowjob as he handed me those bank notes. Worked from 11pm to 1am solo in the kitchen, until finally got through it all. Went home and Art shook my hand and thanked me two more times. Such good feels and good times.
>>7058730
Underaged b&
Enjoy your one year vacation :^)))
I started as a washer, eventually alternated between that or handling the deep fryer depending on who was available.
>>7052949
Dishwasher to sous chef started at 18 now im 27. Work work work
>>7052950
Same
desu not being a bitch but I wasn't being paid enough for the work the asshole head chef expected me to do. i did a lot of the prep, even cooked food if it wasn't so busy, kept the larder dry room thing clean, fridges, freezer, outside, signed in deliveries and recorded the stock, etc. plus there was only one KP, me, so it was difficult to juggle it all. if the head chef wasn't such a cunt then it wouldn't be so bad i suppose
>>7054003
ive done both
dishwashing is worse
>was useless stoner with dishwashing job
>would show up high , get high during break and get high for closing
>would eat food off plates that "looked untouched"
made more money selling weed to the kitchen staff then the minimum wage dish pit
>close at 10pm
>scheduled until 11pm
>people still bringing shit for me to clean at 11:15 pm
>manager tells me "YOU'RE HOLDING EVERYONE UP WE ALL WANT TO LEAVE"
>"uh, then bring shit earlier"
>"STOP MAKING EXCUSES"
fuck that job
>>7054561
I live in Delphos and have lived in Elida and Lima, what restaurant, or give me a hint
>>7053387
I'm a 5'2" female dishwasher/prep. Being small can be challenging for lots of stuff you just have to figure out how to compensate to work efficiently.
>>7059215
Sounds like shit management.
>>7059626
Every shit job I've had in my life has been shit mostly due to management.
>>7058704
that is a pasty and not a samosa.
>samosa trifold is the only way
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIcEKy6ihU
>>7059619
Hi, Olivia.
>>7059626
Pretty much. There were 4 managers below the head manager and obviously none of them wanted to take the blame for anything ever and I was the new guy so I made a perfectly fine scapegoat.
>>7059619
plz be in london
>>7052949
>work in smaller restaurant
>be single kitchen staff during dead lunch hours
>manage prep, ovens, dishwashing solo most days for 2 years
>get called in to work backup on event night
>sit on dishwasher the entire time
>never been happier my job
I'd take a small paycut if it meant I didn't have to go near the line, morning or night.
>>7052949
what kind of asshole puts that much space on the throw side? why is there a gigantic drop? who designed this disaster?
Used to do this at an ihop when I was still in highschool. Boss called me one of the best he has ever had.
Guess its the Mexican in me.
>>7060617
Don't ask me, Anon. I just work there.
>>7060306
This sentiment is universal amongst those that came from dish to many higher positions. Dish is simple, you can't fuck it up... It is either done or not done.
I envy the lowered requirements of the utility worker, but I would rather be in the shit with my pride than in the pit.
>>7059795
That sounds like the hotel I used to work at in Seattle. Between room service and the restaurant there were 5-6 managers on duty at any given time.
Hotel Executive Chef, Restaraunt Chef, Sous Chef, FoH manager, Bar manager, Food & beverage director, Assistant Food & Beverage director.
They had managers running food and bussing tables because there was literally nothing else for them to do.
>>7052949
I know that all kitchens look kind of alike but jesus that looks exactly identical to the place I used to work at
[spoiler]you Dutch bro?[/spoiler]
Not since I was in high school. Ugh...,
>>7061195
Nope, Canadian.
>>7061231
Oh well. Thanks for liberating us in 1945 though, you Canadians are the best.
>>7052949
Not yet, but I have another year and a half of culinary school and I have no delusions about where my place will be when I get out into the workforce.
>buddy in my class saying he'd never work for someone if they make him do dishes/be a dish pig.
>he's got a pretty rude awaking coming for him.
Was a dishwasher at my cousin's restaurant for about 5 months. It fucking sucked but then I got a job at an Applebee's as a line cook and it was 10x worse because you still had to wash dishes at the end of the night.
>>7061302
Why do Dutch people still thank Canadians for this?
>it was no problem man
>we got you bro
>we'd do the same for anyone else as long as they weren't American
>>7061335
Olive 8. A buddy still works the line there and apparently they've pruned it down, but when it first opened that place was pregnant with superfluous management.
lol after reading this thread I'm glad I have a real job, the whole restaurant industry sounds like shit, and you all sound like suckers for wanting to be a part of it. I'm uneducated and do a somewhat laborious job and I make like twice as much as cooks? really? get your shit together you idiots
>was dish washer for four years during highschool
>set the bar too high and now everyone else they hire is just a disapointment
>doing prep now
>once in a blue moon get asked to cover a saturday/friday night shift
>always have the most fun doing this
Maybe its just because I work in a good kitchen, but i sometimes sitll wish i was dishwashing, it was so much fun just pounding that shit out, being completely in control at 7-8pm, and then help the chefs clean up their shit I can finish my shit faster
>tfw thought this would be my last summer working at that kitchen
>tfw I'm now applying to grad school
>2 more summers of working there
i was a dishwasher at a mom n pop mexican place and now im a full time cook. gonna manage soon
feels good man
>>7061335
> Doin shit most women would laugh at for being asked to do.
Fucking servers. Every single time.
>eww, I got a bit of ketchup on my hand, so gross!
i was a dishwasher at this one restaurant. hated it desu senpai. made me cook and do bus boy and shit. and i was looking like shit too with the mess they always making me clean
>>7054003
Construction isn't bad at all
>>7052949
shouts out to my niggas that know the struggle
>>7062286
>be at a restaurant without a real kitchen
>be a server but sometimes asked to give the kitchen a hand
>mostly just plating cold stuff like cheese plates and warming shit up in the microwave
>asked to do dishes
>everyone is amazed that I don't mind hauling bins full of dirty dishes around or getting my hands wet
>kitchen people say i do dishes the best/fastest after that
i dont understand it
>>7062683
I wish they weren't lazy shits who leave gates and fences open.
Also why do they leave their shit everywhere, there are always jackets laying around after they leave
I work at a Red Lobster as a dishwasher.
Endless shrimp is over, and I feel like I just braved a hurricane.
It took me over a month to get the system down so that I could actually not get behind
30 minute waits for every party coming in from 6 to 8, a jam packed resturaunt every weekend, on top of the only other dish guy calling in sick far to often on the weekends was hell.
All of this hand-burning, feet-slipping, disgusting work for minimum wage, yet the servers have the audacity to complain about their tips during the busiest promotion that Red Lobster has.
Also, this is important, dishlickers, since slipping over X gets annoying, and falling could potentially be really bad, check out Shoes for Crews, their boots are probably the most slip resistant work shoes I've ever worn, and it's totally worth it to shell the $40 for a good pair of boots that will last you literally years instead of falling and missing work for who knows how long.
Also, anon said, scratchpads are your best friend.
pic related triggers me. The scampi boats pretty much have to be soaked and scrubbed before they can go through the dish machine and *hopefully* be clean.
>>7063642
forgot pic
>>7062286
i've had FoH staff who are too afraid to put their hand in the dirty water in the cutlery container, and would rather ask me to put all the cutlery through the machine for the sake of a couple of teaspoons.
>>7061896
i'm kinda in the same boat. i'm the sort of person who can be trusted to do a job thoroughly and quickly, so i usually get lumped doing or redoing all the shit the other dishwashers couldn't do properly throughout the week. the annoying thing is they still get paid the same amount as me.
>>7061402
i'm guessing he's never worked in a kitchen if he has that kind of attitude. good luck finding someone who will take on a chef who is walking into a professional kitchen environment for the first time.
>>7059759
Go to bed, Barnaby.
>>7063642
You should write a book.
I started work as a dishwasher when I was 12
>family restaurant, so it was legal
>>7063662
A book about what? Most anyone else who's been working longer than me would have more material for writing a book. I've only been there a couple of months.
>>7052949
boyfriend dishwasher, i'm the overnight janitor at the same place
hard work, man. gotta love deep cleaning grills and hood vents and coming home all greazzzy
Having worked as a dishwasher in several places, and a line cook in others it still amazes me that kitchen staff don't just fucking walk off the line and picket their employers. There is seriously no reason for kitchen staff to make less money than fucking bussers and they should get a full 50% of all tips.
Unless you're a serious chef who makes real money I can't understand why anyone would do the shittiest job for the least pay. If line cooks and dishwashers all walked off their shifts then management would have to rethink their "servers/bartenders taking home $200-300 on a busy night while line cooks make $70" strategy for running their business.
>>7065221
I mean... I'm just going to green text a typical service night at one of the restaurants I've cooked at to really illustrate this absurd bullshit.
>My shift starts at 3, we start serving food around 5 but it won't be busy until then
>Spend probably two to three hours on setting up the line and doing all the prep that's required of me
>Server I'm friends with gets in at 5:30
>Super busy service, constantly running back to the dish pit (because we didn't have a permanent dishwasher at the time, our last guy having quit on us - not that I blame him, you don't owe your employer shit when he gives you the worst job at the worst pay and expects you to be grateful for it), hammering out dishes and fixing server mistakes (we all make mistakes, whatever)
>Line is totally trashed, me and other cook are going to be here until probably 1 cleaning and making sure our prep is done so we don't get overwhelmed tomorrow
>Same server who came in at 5:30 walked into the kitchen at 10 to laugh at all the shit I have to clean up (he's a friend so it was lighthearted)
>Since there were tour groups and it was a busy ass night - servers were short staffed as well - he takes home $200 untaxed in straight tips as well as his hourly wage of $10.50 (minimum wage in my province)
>His 4.5 hour shift nets him $240
>My 10 hour shift nets me $120 ($12 an hour, no overtime pay)
I felt like I got punched in the stomach when I realized, yet again, how unfair this pay scale really is. Quit not long after to be honest.
>>7059619
>female
tranny detected
>>7065221
Holy fuck so much this. I love cooking but god damn it is annoying when some busser winds up making three or four times as much as I do. Gets even worse at more high-end places because tips are bigger; we had an evening just last week where a couple of servers took home like four hundred bucks each in tips alone in eight hours while I made 169- before taxes, of course, which barely touch them- in thirteen hours.
>>7052949
Used to when i was younger
>>7065388
Yep, it's totally ridiculous.
>>7058497
do you even work in a kitchen?
>>7066023
>Anyone can dishwash
>Good servers
What about just servers? You didn't list any qualities which someone needs to be a 'good' dishwasher so why list qualities someone needs to be a 'good' server?
You don't need any particular personableness to be a server most places by the way.
>>7066168
Adding to this that if you think that everyone can dishwash 'equally good' (good being speed and thoroughness, not to mention reliability) you're dead wrong and probably haven't ever worked in a kitchen yourself.
a whole lot of poor people in this thread
>>7066249
I'm not so sure. If we're talking only men for both jobs then maybe, but if we take into account both genders I really don't think there are too many women who would be capable of handling a dish pit on a really busy night and who would even be willing to perform the job, which matters.
>>7065221
It is certainly a passion for those who are dedicated. Most cooks I know either have aspirations for being a chef or owner/operator, or they aren't really dedicated but know that if they show up, don't fuck everything up, and get it done in a timely fashion they won't have many problems, which leaves a lot of room for their idea of a fun life style. That doesn't really apply to dishwashers though. I washed dishes because it was the first job that came my way. I had always enjoyed cooking, and when I got to prep in the kitchen it took off from there.
>>7066278
I had not considered this. But since 70% of servers are females, and I was just thinking of males, this does require rethinking the hypothesis.
>>7066311
I obviously know what you were driving at, that Joe Homeless can walk into a restaurant and immediately perform his job sorta well, while the same guy couldn't really be charged with handling the public face of the restaurant. I do understand, I'm just not sure it merits serving staff taking home up to 5 times what kitchen staff do for shorter hours and arguably easier work.
>>7066335
I was also thinking that you don't need to know the country's primary language overly well to be employed as a dishwasher, where serving you do.
Also ugly people can get jobs easier going for the kitchen than the front.
>>7066350
>Language requirement
Ah, that's very true. Most dishwashers I've worked with have had only rudimentary English.
>>7066350
Oh and as for ugly people I sort of think that's not really true. I've worked with lots of sub average to downright ugly servers (male and female) and it's not like they got less tips or anything. Maybe sometimes the hotter girls get a slightly higher tip out, but I've never really observed it in practice, probably depends on the restaurant.
not currently, but i've done it 4 times in my career
pros:
>mindless
>easy to socialize with kitchen mates
>usually can find promotion in kitchen if done well
>free food usually
cons:
>mindless
>if you get backed up you lose hope of living
>bitch of kitchen
>can be fucking gross
>can be easily injured (burns, cuts, etc.)
>can be really tedious with hard to clean things
>most of the time given other miscellaneous tasks like cleaning bathrooms/taking out trash
I hate dishwashing now but I have no doubt it helped me establish a good work ethic that helps in all other future jobs
>>7053547
same
I worked for a week at my college's dining court. 5+ hour shifts of monotony, plus the fucking smell of food mash and soap and hot water
What really pissed me off is I couldn't listen to a podcast or anything while doing it. Seriously it'd be fairly tolerable then. But people would take time out of their day to tell me off for it. fuck that
>tfw get paid 10 an hour to wash dishes
>just started to do small prep work and other small tasks.
is this it bros?
>>7061017
Soak and scrub those fucking dish racks, jesus.
>>7066502
Work hard and well, and you'll move up.
>>7063651
>tfw i'm the 4th highest paid [spoiler]notincludingtips[/spoiler] there
>i still dish wash on some nights
>>7066363
The work ethic really is massive. I've consistently been the fastest and hardest worker in every other job I've done, and never complain about tedious shit.
>my school work ethic is still shit though
>professors are surprised when they see or hear about me at a job/internship
>>7061866
I think for a lot of people it's
1. You can move up positions FAST
2. You can be a drunk, druggie, degenerate because everyone else is
3. Not a normal job
>>7062744
Fo real mang?
Does that mean free jackets?
I need a good one, I'm broke.
>>7066478
I used to listen to music with earbuds while doing my dishes and prep until they told me to stop because it was dangerous, as in, if someone tells me to watch out because they are dropping hot oil and I can't hear them then I might be injured.
Made my job much much worse.
>>7061866
I agree with you. Cooks and kitchen staff need to stop taking this shit and demand either an equal share or a clear majority of tips if the restaurants can't afford to directly increase their pay.
>>7066840
And keep in mind that if the food is even slightly complicated the amount of people who can cover an experienced chef over a server is incredibly slanted. Basically anyone can talk to customers, walk food to a table and operate a POS machine, training someone to do this from a total beginner to an expert will take maybe a week; not so for cooking and plating a complicated menu; assuming you're training someone to cook from scratch this could literally take months to years.
>>7066862
To put this into perspective I had a server come into the kitchen and ask me how I was making a sauce. When I told her that at a certain point I raised the temp to allow the sauce to thicken she asked me two questions:
1. Why would heat thicken a sauce?
2. How will you know when it's thick?
Most people literally know nothing about cooking. If you were training someone from scratch you would be teaching them basic ass shit like salting pasta water and why certain reactions result in certain properties in your dish as well as your actual menu.
>>7061402
It's traditionally part of the humbling experience to work yourself up from the absolute bottom of a restaurant.
Only thing I really hated about working as a dishwasher at my last place was I had to unclog the toilet in the dining area, and that meant lugging the bright green mop caddy and plunger+bucket past all the people eating, looking at me with pity. Quite the walk of shame.
Stop using piles of toilet paper, idiots.
>>7066834
Annoys me when people assume that if you have earphones on you're listening to it at full fucking blast. Hell I'm listening to podcasts most of the time anyway.
That being said I do understand the reasoning. Doesn't stop me from sneakily sticking an earbud in during a particularly boring graveyard shift.
>>7066885
it's a shame that people don't know how to cook, triggering in fact. even the most basic of dishes are fucked up by them, which explains why there is all this pre packaged garbage (which they still somehow manage to mess up frequently)
>friend makes spaghetti
>doesnt drain the non lean beef
>"chops" a small onion into slivers without sauteing at all or even lightly browning them
>no garlic
>no salt
>no pepper
>all the meat is at the bottom of this massive fucking pot and is premixed with the sauce
>noodles are limp and overcooked
blandest, shittest spaghetti I've ever had. I bet I could find better at gamestop.
>>7052949
>have that same squeegee
noice
>>7066920
Bring in some cheap speakers.
>>7059112
It's good you quit. Half the stuff you were doing should be done by the chef.
>>7054306
I'm going to school right now to expand on what I already know. Working dish sucked real bad. But it does build a lot of character. When staff were nice to me I was more willing to go the extra mile for them to help them out. I would always make sure they had what they needed.
>>7057485
>I NEED APP PLATES TO SELL!
oh goodness I keked.
I was a dishwasher for like 8 months before I was promoted, but I get the feeling I could have moved up sooner if I had just asked sooner.
Cooking is a lot more different from dish then I thought, but I still believe the skills that dish gave me made me a better cook. Also, I am the only one who gives a shit about making sure stuff doesn't stick because I was a dishwasher.
Fuck the shrimp and grits.
>>7059199
If they drug tested back of house staff, they'd all come back positive for at least weed.
This thread has made me realize I shouldn't tip servers.
>>7066915
Oh God, I had to do the same. What was worse was when people spilled or broke shit in the dining room. Guess who had to clean that up? Certainly not the servers, because they're oh-so-busy snickering behind my back while I clean up the mess of the customers they're responsible for.
>>7067820
You should have realized that a long time ago. They don't fucking deserve it.
>>7054300
if you love us, take some time and cross train us. just because there isn't any room for us on your line doesn't mean skills wont help us land the next job.
>>7068676
this is an awful attitude to have, its not necissarily incorrect but hating them and not tipping them wont solve anything. the real problem is managers not paying them a fair wage and encouraging this behavior in the first place. picture related. its like sex education but for servers. you don't set them up to succeed, and you get pocket spaghetti
>>7068697
In a real country, they get minimum wage like everyone else.
>>7068985
In USA they also get minimum wage.
anyone who says they don't is misinformed, or lying.
>>7069003
caveat, assuming no wage theft is going on. But wage theft is a problem not limited to servers nor to the united states.
>>7069006
wage theft is much easier when you're kindasorta expected to make up the different between like $2 an hour and the unreported cash tips that tipped employees live on.
in first world countries it's kind of considered scandalous for these things to be allowed, not like in dubai where everyone laughs when you say human rights should be a thing.
>>7069012
Can you please restate. I am having trouble understanding your first sentence.
>>7052949
I live the highlife of the dish pit. Work at a hospital so we are ready to serve like 500 meals a day. To get all the dishes done we have a 20' long conveyor belt style dishwasher.
At my old job we had a setup like OP's pic and I often had to solo an entire nights worth of dishes. Shit sucked.
>>7069016
>employee pays employees based on Hours x Wage
>Wage is lower than "minimum wage" because employees are assumed to be getting tipped
>Every now and then an employee doesn't make enough tips because slow night or whatever, so Hours x Wage = less than minimum wage
>Employee says "pls pay make up the difference as you are required to by law"
>Employer says "you have a shit work ethic you don't like it here you can quit"
>>7069026
I don't see how that makes it easier to wage theft than any other situation. Also it should be tips averaged over pay period, whether weekly biweekly or monthly.
I think though wage theft in restaurants is more likely due to not accounting all hours or not paying overtime. Too many servers working 50 hour weeks and only getting marked down for 30. And they are supposed to get 5.75 pay, with 10.88 minimum after tip.
>>7069024
That's pretty cool. A buddy of mine who works in a hotel says they have the kind of aet up you do, a 2 level conveyor.
>>7052949
you mean underwater ceramic technician?
>>7069104
you are a fucking moron then.
>>7069249
No, I think you are the idiot that procreates. Stealing wages through documented pay paves the way towards labor board investigations. While I am sure it happens, it is no difference from any employer shorting their employees pay.
Worst job ever, I was stuck being a dishwasher for like five years despite proving I could do everyone's job better than them when given the chance
On my last day I called my manager a fatass and almost stabbed a delivery guy then just bounced
>>7069346
documented how? all the employer has to do is deny that they had the conversation, and that they where making enough tips. then he fires the person involved and now that person doesn't have a job to pay bills and keep a roof over their head.
I started working as a dish dog a couple months ago and have now moved up to prep.
I kinda wonder if it's worth it to stay in the industry, all the line cooks at the place I work at are either alcoholics or on coke.
Does everyone end up as a drug addicted wreck with fucked up back and knees after a decade or two?
>>7069427
as someone whos been in the industry for a long time. You can just not do coke or such. its not like its a prerequisite.
>>7069412
Employer must get employee to sign tip sheet for every pay period. Then tips earned must be printed on pay stub for pay period. Other item that are included on pay stub are hours worked, and wages earned.
This is what I mean by documented. If the employer does not pay what is owed to the employee it is shown on the paystub. If employer changes pay stub to avoid paying extra, then it won't match the tip sheet. If employer changes the tip sheet, it won't have signature.
Documentation. Trails of documentation. Sure the wages can be stolen, but not without effort, and the amount of effort is no different from any other employer stealing from their employees.
>>7069483
so the person just cuts anyone who didnt make enough tips, or the person is expected to lie about how much they recieved.
>>7066840
>be dish dog
>bussers are paid as much as me AND get a share of the tips too for a lot less work compared to me
Oh well at least the line likes me more.
>>7069026
>Employee says "pls pay make up the difference as you are required to by law"
>Employer schedules one less shift for Employee
Whoopsie, I didn't know you wanted to work Saturdays. I guess that'll teach you to ask for money.
>>7066840
>be server
>kitchen Is Red Seal chefs who've trained for years to prepare food
>I am a young, blonde 20-something who wants to pay for vacation to Ibiza
>they create the menu
>they do the prep
>they cook and plate the food
>dishwashers clean literally everything we serve, use for serving, and just plain use in the restaurant
>I make more than most of them
Fucking loving it. Life is just so hard making roughly 15% on every single table I take.
Seriously though, fuck tipping.
>>7066023
But servers make way more than pretty well anyone back of house. Like, not just more than dishwashers but substantially more than any of the cooks.
I am
Used to work mornings at a super busy place.
Now I work nights
Do all the stuff a overnight porter would do, cept during service hours. Dishes arent so bad during night shifts but the chores are.
Get called lazy by bitchy supervisors because they assume its easier to work nights because no dishes. They dont even know half of what needs to be done to keep this place clean.
>>7069504
Dishwashers are the backbone of a restaurant but good FOH directly translates into profits.
Servers are salespeople after all
who /roaches/ here?
>>7069654
Not at the place I work at unless an its an exceptionally busy night. Cooks average about 16-18 dollars an hour at my job.
>>7069692
>roaches
NOPE
I was a dishwasher for 3 years in high school at a pizza and wing place. I hated smelling like bleach and having a greasy hot wing film up to my elbows. (I was and still am 5"2) I had to bus tables too and man those weekend shifts I had were awful (even if I had a 2nd person sometimes)
Thinking back I always thought it was amusing if food prep girls would say how gross my job was and couldn't under stand how I could do it. Glad to be done with it as I've never been a kitchen person.
>>7066023
>>anyone can dish wash
you fucking morons are dumb as shit.
yes, anyone can do a shitty job at dishwashing. almost no one does the actual job right. you want to know why? because while it makes for better quality food, safer from foodborne illness, none of you fucks ever give a shit. stay the fuck out of my silverwear tray. serving a customer a fork you whiped with a paper towel is a crime,.
>>7052949
>ITT: burnout blue collars defend their shit tier, low wage jobs and try to romanticize it
>>7070040
lol, shhhh let them continue pls this thread makes me feel better about my life
>>7070061
rep dat crib
pulln dat poon wit dat bling fo sho
>>7070040
>burnout blue collars
A lot of those, for sure, but I would guess that the average age of the actual dishwashers posting in this thread are maybe 20?
At 20, it's definitley not where you should be unless you really want to move up the ranks onto the line or become a chef or owner. If you want to. Not saying that's the best, but most 20 something dishwashers are in the right place to do so.
Now if someone was 30 and was still washing dishes, that would be different.
18 now, doing dishes along with school.
>>7070298
22yo college student working part time as a dishdog reporting in.
>>7070298
I usually see 40 year old mexicans dishwashing
>>7052949
It was my first job, i hated every second.
How long does it usually take for a dishwasher to get a raise or move up to something else. I've been washing dishes for about 6 months now. It's slowed down a bunch since summer is over, so I know there is too many people to move me to something else, but I think I at least deserve a raise soon.
>>7070950
>get a raise
Generally they don't hand out raises in restaurants unless you ask for one.
>>7053378
I could get a beer if I wanted, but I don't drink. I get food every night though.
>>7070964
How long should I wait until I ask then?
>>7070992
87 days
>>7063642
Fuck Shoes for Crews. The first pair of shoes I got from them were fine, but I was working fast food then and not doing dishes, so I tried to order a more water resistant pair this time. The first model I tried was uncomfortable as fuck, so I tried to exchange them. I had to call them twice after I already shipped the shoes back to them because I kept getting emails saying there was problems with my order. Then I finally got the new pair yesterday, and they sent me the wrong size. I'm just going to get my money back this time because I'm sick of this shit. Meanwhile, my current shoes are falling apart because I've been dealing with these shitheads for a month. Now I have to go to Walmart and get a shit 20$ pair to tie me over until I get my money back and can afford a good pair of shoes.
In my kitchen, all the line cooks get 2% of food sales, while I don't get anything but my minimum wage salary as the dishwasher. I think it's kind of unfair, but I like everybody I work with and it beats the shit out of my last job in fast food, so I don't bitch about it.
>>7070298
I'm in my 30s washing dishes because I made poor life choices all throughout my 20s, and it's one of the only jobs I can get at the moment. I'm slowly working on a college degree too though.
>>7071082
I applaud you for doing what it takes but having been a dishwasher in my teens I wouldn't have the stamina to do it now in my 30's
>>7071033
Someone once summed up shoes for crews for me
>millions of dollars into sole development, 10 dollars into the shoe that they attach it to
Best non-slip shoe I've ever had, but the shoes themselves are utter bullshit. They fall apart so quickly and they always hurt my feet, even with arch supports.
I just got a 90 dollar pair of Mozo's and they are comfy and so far they have held up to 50 hour weeks on concrete floors. I'm a bartender/manager so its a barrage of water, booze, citrus,syrups, and broken glass and they haven't slipped, leaked, or cracked yet. Come spring we'll see how they lasted.
A side plus to them is that they don't look like hospital shoes or grandpa sneakers.
im the best Dishwasher in the world
>>7052949
As a driver at Pizza Hut you also responsible for 90% of the dishes.
That's how I learned I'm allergic to sanitizer.
>>7072554
>tfw sanitizer makes you break out in fucking red spots all over the back of your hands in the winter
Moisturizing might help.
>>7072535
PROVE IT, SPEEDY GONZALEZ
>>7072559
It just turns my skin red and makes it super itchy and irritated.
Used a lot of ointments and moisturizer and soaked my hands in peroxide when I got home. I'd wear gloves they never worked.
Now I'm a waiter and avoid sanitizer as much as I can. I wipe off tables with rags soaked in steaming hot water instead.
>tfw when there's no dishwasher the other day cook runs to hide in scull instead of doing their actual work
>>7072570
>Steaming hot water
>Not bleach spray
You're what causes MRSA.
>>7072567
i still have my job?
>it's a shift where you get a cut
>>7072593
Hah, once I sliced my pinky and ring finger real good while doing prep. I could see the bone. Went to the hospital, got stitches, and was back to work.
>>7072593
>it's a shift where you get a cut on a blunt object
This just happened. We had a good kek.
