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What does /cgl/ think of these "cosplayers"?
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This again? Who cares. They take their cosplays off. They get naked. Some are actually better looking than other 'real' cosplayers and some even have better outfits. The ones who have gotten super popular though are the ones with the shittiest personalities and have quit cosplay deviants [EnvyUs Cosplay].
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>>8990681
whats wrong with her neck? lol
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Personally? Meh.

The owner found a niche to profit off of. The quality of models, photo shoots, and costumes are just kind of mediocre to just plain goofy(like the Goku photoshoot off the top of my head) I don't think I've ever seen a really GREAT photoshoot.

I've heard the pay isn't that great for the models either.
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i am all for people putting in minimum effort to suck money out of the kind of basement dwellers that will actually give it to them. why are we so quick to vilify "sexy cosplayers" instead of the idiots supporting them?
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>>8990735
This.
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>>8990735
This, honestly. There's evidently sufficient demand for it, and they're filling that demand well enough. There's not that much relation between them and "regular" cosplay beyond the costume bit. It's like asking what cops think of jail or police-themed porn, I doubt it's really something they think about on a day to day basis.
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>>8990681
efame whores who deserve their neckbeard counterparts.
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>>8990744
This, though it's kind of hard to miss them when they're one of the main sponsors of Anime Expo and their booth will be front and center at the con.
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I block and ignore anyone who likes their FB page or supports them with money. Same for people that work for them in any capacity.
If I find out they do it means aren't keeping the shit I don't want to know about them to themselves.
>>8990744
This too. The last thing I want to think about is what sicko losers do with something I enjoy.
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I'd rather cosplay deviants than seventeen year olds trying to look sexy by gnawing on their lips in their AOT cosplay in front of their webcam.
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>>8990768
Thats a bit extreme anon and really sad. You can be friends with someone involved in CD, but not partake in it. I don't see why blocking someone who is friends or supports what their friends do has to do with you.
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Their panty and stocking set was fucking LOL and it looks like they had a lot of fun
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>>8990791
Some of the sets and outfits are really good, they do have some talented people [or at least photographers for some of the sets], but most of them are pretty trash. Like this one girl who is apparently somehow the face of the Anime Expo party.
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Don't forget their beautiful Fiona. kek
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going through their tumblr. im going to post some of the ones with good photographers/editing, but shitty cosplayers/cosplays.
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>>8990808
jk. just going to post bad stuff. Im having trouble finding the actual good sets on their tumblr.
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>>8990812
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>>8990817
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>>8990820
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>>8990824
and the worse cosplay deviant of all who uses as much photoshop manipulation as possible and has quit since her velma set got views almost 4 years ago, its envyus cosplay. doesn't upload anything worthwhile on her patreon, same reposted shit as her facebook. keeps saying she is making sets for cd, hasn't delivered on anything. i was a patreon, nothing of value was uploaded anywhere. i stopped supporting her. she's a money grab whore. i can understand why firebrand left her.
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I don't understand why some people get worked up about it and find it offensive. It's porn. There is porn of just about everything on this planet. Pizza delivery boys dont get offended that there is porn of pizza delivery boys.

Better give the fucks targeted porn than have them jacking it to con photos they took of you.
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>>8990714
>I've heard the pay isn't that great for the models either.

It's spectacularly bad, from what I've heard. A few friends of mine have been approached by them and basically laughed in the face of their offers.

It's definitely not enough to be worth putting nudes out there on the internet.
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>>8990798
Please tell me that isn't Holo
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>>8990826
wtf is that really the same person?
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>>8990751
>one of the main sponsors
Troy doesn't do badly for himself, but somehow I doubt he's pulling enough from geek porn and rape-themed sodas to be a MAIN sponsor.
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>>8991100
Yes
>>8991103
And yes
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>>8990820

hex hypoxia has the most bizarre fucking body structure Ive ever seen
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I just wish cosplay modeling wasn't a think so I could talk about anime conventions to a guy without them thinking the only point of conventions is to stare at hot women.
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>>8991150
she constantly claims she doesn't corset train but im pretty sure she lowkey does but always denies it to be a special snowflake
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>>8990823
Mama Mai! Dat Mario nose.
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Eh some cosplayers want to be whores, some ugly whores think neckbeards will give them money for wearing (or not wearing) a costume/
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>>8991170
See, I know a lot of them and they don't sleep around, but are comfortable with their bodies and find this form of cheap modeling fun. What I don't agree with is the super shitty costuming and the newest sets looking as if they were self taken with a selfie stick. A lot of the girls know know how to apply makeup properly, pose properly. Yes they make money, but at least put in effort.
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>>8990776
>Thats a bit extreme anon and really sad. You can be friends with someone involved in CD, but not partake in it.


That's just having higher standards for friendships I guess.
They don't want people on their feed who don't line up with them morally or intellectually. Can't really hate on them for that.

It's not like they are rejecting something that a person can't change like "I don't like mexicans on my friends list, or if you are gay don't friend me."
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>>8991093
if you look, a LOT of them sell their own sets on the side ('donation sets') off their own websites or devart or tumblr or whatever. I think a lot of them use CosDev to get a fan base so they can make more money on the side w/o going thru cosdev.
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>>8991409
Seconded, do what you what but if I can find out about it when I haven't gone looking for it we wouldn't be compatible.
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>>8990714
>>8991093
I'm one of them, pay is $400 a set. Photographers get something like $200 a set.
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>>8991444

That does seem rather low. Are the cosplays provided by them?
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>>8991459
No. Pay was $200 plus costume reimbursement before, now it's the straight $400 so they don't have to deal with costume reimbursement anymore. I was doing nude and fetish modeling for a couple of years though, and even experienced nude models can expect just $75-$150 an hour. Inexperienced models usually get paid just $50 an hour. The $400 definitely isn't bad, especially since most of the other paysites I've dealt with pay $150-$200 a set.
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I just discovered today who the fuck this people are, and my sides are on orbit right now.

I'd love to say "Cosplay is for everybody, if they want to do it naked, good for them!", which is what I do all the time because I feel it's true, but shit, it's so obvious they just want to pose naked for neckbeards.

All the cosplays on their main page are so half assed and cringey. Some of them even show their real hair beneath the dollar store wigs, or don't even bother to cover certain part only to show their (behold) oh so magnificent and geeky tattoos.

I say go for it. I haven't had so much laughing material in months.
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>>8991422
honestly i wouldn't pay for any of their off sets except for bear, shodan, porphyria, vivka because some of the shit she creates is really cool looking and she is beautiful. everyone else is just not subpar.
this chick's Seras was a huge winner several years ago, but she's really let herself go. she was in that to hot list too once. shen the velma thing >>8990826, but a different anon already settled that.
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>>8991939
>loves frell though

Frell makes her own stuff and knows how to pose. She is really nice too! I know there are some bad cosplayers on CD, but the ones that put so much effot into the photo editing, costumes, poses..etc are the ones I really admire. That includes the ones you listed and others like Frell and Ladybug.


Envy though... Im worried no one can save her. I actually really used to admire her, but with her not getting attention at cons like the recent one with SuperMaryFace and the boob fetishist I dont remember the name of, it seems like she has taken to complaining about it. Comparing being ignored in her outfit to fat shaming or body shaming.
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>>8990768
Is your life really that sad? I have friends that do things I don't agree with but we're still friends because I don't act like a 5 year old.
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>>8992153
You said the same thing before and got two answers >>8991409 >>8991428
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>>8990702
>>8990826
>>8991949
I must have missed something. How did Envy become so bad?
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>>8992161
Or I'm a different anon. Not my fault several people think acting petty is dumb.
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>>8992173
Then the same replies apply to you too. You can think it's dumb that they don't wanna be facebook "friends" with someone like that and they can think CD and the people associated with them dumb.
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I wish the models would at least try to match their lingerie with their character. Madoka should be wearing something frilly and pink
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Every single one of these bitches, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE BITCHES, is ugly.

I wanted to shoot for CD before, but this stuff is pure garbage. I don't know if I'd want my name attached to this shit.

I even see that one of the photographers was REALLY trying with the girl he was shooting, with flattering posing and lighting, but you can't gloss up shit but so far.

I take it back: Domi is sexy (even though her personality is pure shit). But the rest of them are severely overweight, and just busted facially. How do these bitches make money?
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>>8990826
feels bad that something like that can get a bunch of followers and fans and i'm decently cute and not a whale and don't because i don't whore myself out or do titty cosplays :(
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>>8992319
>those awful bangs.
Holy fuck. Never cut straight bangs like that.
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>>8992405
I think Bear is really pretty. She goes by Anastassia Bear Cosplay also.
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>>8991470

I can't believe women would expose themselves to the entire planet for peanuts.

Why not just get a legit job and not ruin your chance for future jobs and disappoint your family?
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>>8992502
The bait is good here. Any takers?
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>>8992319
>not covering your trashy tattoo
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>>8992519

Not baiting, legit surprised that there are people that would do this for such little money.
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>>8992672
says the neckbeard that probably buys these sets
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>>8992672
LOL tell that to all the woman entrepreneurs out there. I'm calling bait on this one
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The pay is not great, but they do pay. Remember God's Girls only pays 50 per set and most of Suicide Girls content was given for free since most sets don't make set of the day.

At least they pay every set. They also reimburse 100$ for costumes. That means low quality costumes.

The sets vary in quality and looks, but they pay pretty good for what those people do.
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>>8990735
Because those neck beards produce no content and thus are largely anonymous?
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>>8990681
Every time I see them I'm reminded I could do so much better if I just had webhosting and some willing models.
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>>8991157
Any guy who thinks like that probably isn't a fan and have never been to a con.
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>>8992443
This is a prime example of why it's never ok to give mediocre girls compliments.

She has the personality of a vacuum cleaner.
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I'd like to know where some of them got the cosplays.
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>>8992672
Are you actually autistic?
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>>8992672
>>/r9k/
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>>8992319
>Infinity tattoo

I will never understand why these people want to be living stereotypes of trashy
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>>8990798
Koyomatsu looks like she smells like cat piss and cigarette smoke.
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>>8990798
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>>8990705
ha
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At least theyre not the Geek Goddesses.
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>>8994563
geek goddesses treats their models better but god are they cringy.
they had a "ask a girl nerd anything" panel that just turned into a "ask a slut anything" panel.

literally talking about enjoying sex and a creepy neckbeard audience. walked the fuck out.
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I didnt ask for these cringes. Ya'll are guilty of opressing my neck muscles
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>>8990826
D I S G U S T I N G
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>>8992502
i don't understand why you wouldnt just go to LA to do actual porn they said girls can get like 1,000 plus with a guy- girl scene and way more if they do more extreme stuff like gang bangs.
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>>8996428
because no power over teh nerdz
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>>8991041
We're forced to see their cellulite ridden asses because of you sex depraved virgins buying into slut scams. Destroying any innocence this hobby had left imo, shit is nasty now thanks to all the shady businesses that force themselves to be known thanks to their never ending hunt for efame. They are the first thing you see when you open an anime or cosplay magazine in your grocery store. Not to mention being the face of conventions like ax. It's sad how easy it is to sell out sluts. Who wouldn't want to participate in that culture anymore?
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>>8998045
people who aren't complete no-fun-allowed sticks in the mud?
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>>8992502
>Why not just get a legit job

Porn IS a legit job, though. It even hits all the bulletpoints:

-Souldraining
-Other people use your body for their gain
-You don't get paid shit comparatively

>>8998045

Tell me your address, I'll call 911 to help you with that man holding the gun to your head and forcing you to look.

And also, I doubt many people are confusing cosplay porn with people cosplaying at a con. At least, many who wouldn't be that mentally imbalanced anyway.
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>>8992502


>do they get paid for goods and/or services?
its a job
>do they get paid for selling goods and/ or services you disagree with?
still a job
>do they work from home selling goods and/ or services?
still a job
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>>8990681
I don't agree with the monetization of sex or sexualized things so I don't like it. And as a former sexworker I can say that camwhores have it very easy and people who do lewd photos have it even easier and tend to glamourize the whole thing without understanding it fully.
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>>8998480
>Tell me your address, I'll call 911 to help you with that man holding the gun to your head and forcing you to look.

why do people always use this argument? just because you're fine with it doesn't mean it's okay and it doesn't mean it shouldn't bother others. calling out things you're unhappy with is how change happens.
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>>8998492

By the same token, though, just because you're not okay with it doesn't mean it's terrible and doesn't mean it needs to be eradicated.
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>>8998504
but you can let people have an option without being a cunt. not everyone likes what you like and they may want to express it. saying "don't like it don't look" is what ignorant or insecure people tend to do.
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>>8998520

So, someone else expressing their support for something is being a ignorant, insecure cunt? Especially when you express it with statements like "We're forced to see their cellulite ridden asses because of you sex depraved virgins buying into slut scams.", which is totally classy in and of itself.

You're basically just screaming your head off that you dislike something without giving a reason beyond "I don't like seeing this". Naturally, the response is to tell you to avoid it, and if that's not a satisfactory answer then the proper return is to give a reason why or ignore that as well. You've instead done neither and simply kept repeating "I DONT LIKE THIS" as if it means something.

I'm sorry that people deciding to willingly take their clothes off for money offends you, and that you're so opposed to people making an honest bit of money for something they want to do, but unless you gather up a ton of people and lobby Congress to put in South Korea-tier anti sexuality laws, you're out of luck.
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>>8998045
The bait is real, but I'll bite.

Don't look at it. Simple as them.

Also, people dressing up and stripping has been around a lot longer than Cosplay Deviants has. People were stripping in nerd gear LONG before they even tried to make a move on the scene.
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>>8998547
I'm not even the original anon. I just think the "don't like it, don't look" argument is stupid. People who can't deal with having their opinions challenged always shut people down with arguments like that. If you want to support something that's fine but bawwing like an idiot is just sad.
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>>8998504
but by your logic you don't have to look at their opinion.
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love will never be free as long as sex sells.

there seems to be this idea that people have about sex work. people think it's empowering for some reason, that it helps women take control of our sexuality but that's totally wrong. porn and sex work in general are detriments to our society. the idea that these kinds of things are empowering is because of how sexuality is treated by society as a whole. and to free sexuality we need to free sex. porn and the like have created a boundary of sorts between men and women, and even between two men or two women as well. it creates false expectations, false stereotypes and insecurities. in a society that promotes porn, sex work(stripping) and sexualization everywhere in everything, but shames sluttiness forces sexuality in people but forces you to supress it at the same time and doesn't even teach proper methods of masturbation is obviously broken.

i don't think what people want when they want to empower women sexually is for them to engage in sex work of any kind, porn, prostitution or even just gravure shit. we should abolish the idea altogether, be more open about sexuality in general embrace sex and the human body.

sex is something that people hide and suppress while also trying to show it off. it creates a wall between people that doesn't exist. and this kind of thing does the same thing. people shouldn't get paid for being naked, being naked is natural and beautiful. the thing that will empower women more than getting paid to show her crotch is a time when she can do it without people trying to pay her.
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>>8998620

topkek anon you have said it all.
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>>8998620
well said
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>>8990800
I can't tell who is more hideous: Panty or Stocking...
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>>8991165
Her Fetlife Profile states otherwise...
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I used to be upset when I saw how little effort was put into it and how people ate it up. But then I kinda became indifferent. Official cosplay porn by japs sometimes don't even wear wigs much less have the correct hair color and VA's will wear terribly put together cosplays but fans will drink it all because they're not looking at it the way seagulls do.

One of the CD girls wore the same cosplay I did once and is getting paid just to show her vag while wearing it. Wrong shoes and all. Honestly I wouldn't mind doing it myself but I don't want to be known for doing porn.
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>>8998608
If bawwing like an idiot is just sad, doesn't that mean the people who initially complained about the thing in the first place are also idiots and just sad?
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>>8998620
I feel that you've identified the societal problem, but falsely equivalated porn with it. The divide between puritan modesty standards and high impact sexuality is really off, but when it comes down to our, porn is ultimately just providing a service.

Singing is natural and fun to do for free, but people still get paid to sing. There will always be people who want to pay and people who want to get paid for fuck movies.

It should be less fetishized (heh), but calling it morally or societally flawed is evil is a bit off the mark.
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My god the amount of misinformation here is baffling. Lets clear some things up (CD model here).

- Models are currently paid $400 per set that is accepted. "Donation" sets are often sets that were submitted but were simply not bought by CD.
- There is no costume pay back. Models are responsible for their own costumes.
- Photographers make $200 - $250 depending on your status with the company. Something about staff photographers.
- Models are told explicitly not to approach people and make modeling offers, so all of those claims are complete shit. There's a difference between saying "hey you would be a good fit here" and "OMG they totally wanted to offer me a job".
- All models go through the application process which is judged by 3 people, no one gets a free pass.
- All sets are chosen by the same panel, no one person has any more power than another.
- Having friends that work for Geek Goddess and Cosplay Deviants, I hear less complaints about CD. GG forces all of their models to sign a lengthy Non-Disclosure and is very threatening to their girls. CD denies alot of sets which seems to upset girls, I think this is to attempt quality control.

I understand people not liking CD, that's totally ok. But don't put others down for it. Many of the models including myself are pretty empowered by it, and love the way we're treated.
v(=∩_∩=)フ
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>>8999159
You make a good set of points. Thank you for dispelling some of those myths and telling us the actual procedure.

How did you know all of this?
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>>8999172
>CD model here
Anon c'mon
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>>8999183
>>8999172
I read that it *said* that, but I didn't see any photos of "her" as proof. It was be silly to simply believe anyone's claim without evidence

Sincerely,
Anonymous, Ph.D
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>>8999159
If what you see is controlled quality, makes you wonder what got cut and how bad it was...
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>>8998620

The reason sex sells is because there's always people out there that can't get it. Porn hasn't created the boundary, the boundary exists through nature itself. Even if there's no monetary compensation, there's still the fact that some people are too creepy, ugly, or just plain undeserving of it, so the only way they can sate their mating instinct is to use porn in it's intended way or to pay someone to sleep with them. One side at minimum will always expect something of the other (and often both sides), so sex in and of itself cannot be totally free, if just by human nature.

Thus, it's not the monetization of sex that's hurting your ideal, is the fact that no matter how free or walled-off it is, there'll always be people left behind who will be willing to monetize it, or barter for it, or do anything they need to for it. And even then, there's people who get off on making porn, so the porn would still be made, even if it was illegal.

While I agree that the promotion of sexuality with the shaming of sluttiness is a ridiculous thing in and of itself, I think you're thinking too highly of the human race if you believe that eliminating porn would lead to a true sexual revolution, or even is a viable thing.
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>>8990812
>not wearing dance tights with a leotard
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>>8999159
>>8999187
>>8999159
>>8999187
What this person said is accurate. Also, no one cares that you spent extra time in school and wrote a dissertation.
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>>8999159
Empowering but you look like literal creepy pasta shit in person.

Your photographers start scouting and grooming girls at around 16 to get them to shoot on their 18th birthday. I understand the pool of actual attractive women without a shit ton of photoshop is rare in the CD pool, but fucking seriously guys? Bentpic is guilty of this shit.
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>>8999159
You work for CD? Pics to prove it, then?
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>>8999210
I remember one girl got her set denied. It was a Cardcaptor Sakura set and the girl was from France I think. The reason it was said it was denied was that is was a child character removing her clothes which made no sense since there have been other child characters portrayed or underage who have had sets and they weren't some weird suddenly they are of age thing either. I saw some of the photos. It was just a bad photographer and a bad model and costume. They really beat around the bush about it.
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>>8999055
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>>8999159
I'm the other CD model that posted upthread, and there used to be compensation for costumes, which is probably why that misinformation is around. On the GG point, some of the women with the worst personality issues moved from CD to there. Nana and Kassandra Leigh being two good examples, they were always so cold and bitchy even to other models. Kassandra is also known in the lolita community for some of the shit she's done, so yeah.
Sets are also decided on by just Bear for approval now as well, I'm pretty sure.
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>>8999853
Why does Bear have all this power? I would assume Madison was the one to do it, not her. I mean she has sets, but I figured others like even Vivka would have more say in good sets.
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>>8999855
Because Bear is the Model Liaison. I'm pretty sure Madison stepped down from doing CD related stuff months ago in favor of focusing on her and her husband's screenprinting business. Does Vivka have a special position? I don't recall her having one.
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>>8999865
I assumed since Vivka has so much more experience that she would be a judge for sets. Bear does a lot of modeling as well outside of CD, but Vivka seems more qualified. I can see why Vivka might not be though since she bounces around everywhere for shoots and appearances and some of the stuff she does with Kelly Eden's crew. I'm just a little surprised.

Who would you say is the top girl right now and how do you feel about Koyomatsu being the face of the AX party?
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>>8999870
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>>8999870
>Who would you say is the top girl right now
Hard question. My personal favorites are Domi and Vivka, who are both pretty popular, but top girl has internal politics to it as well.
>and how do you feel about Koyomatsu being the face of the AX party?
There are cuter girls they could have used (to me she's about a 4 on a 1-10 scale), but maybe she connects with fans well and that's why she was chosen. I know that there are a lot of members that would prefer some women more than others because of their behavior on the forums and in the chat room. For instance, Kassandra rarely came into chat and when she did she was usually a weird bitch. I remember one time she came in, people were saying hi to her, she did some poses in a latex outfit on cam and seemed to be taking webcam shots of herself, then left without saying anything. Some of the members were going wtf at that, and I'd had a couple talk to me about the other ladies on Facebook before.
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>>8999878
The community seems like a lot of fun, at least some of the girls seem chill. I've noticed quite a few become very bitchy like Ichigo and Envy. Envy seems to be the notorious one around cgl for her attitude and victim roles if she doesn't get attention at a convention. I think there was a cringe thread weeks ago about it.
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>>8999884
Ichigo and Envy were both sweethearts at first. I remember when we'd have singing nights in the chat rooms and we'd sing for the members, Ichigo really enjoyed doing that. The attention went to both of their heads, though I still can't help but like Envy since I've interacted with her in nice ways enough where her current attitude isn't enough to deter me from thinking she's likable. I haven't directly talked to her in awhile, though.
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>>8998620

>people shouldn't get paid for being naked, being naked is natural and beautiful

While i agree with most of what you said. People get paid to pose naked. And have costumes ready at least in this example, and yes, get naked while posing get their pictures taken, and consenting to have those pictures sold.

Just being naked wont net them cash. You cant conveniently forget about all the other work(or lack thereof) that goes into making this an actual product that can be sold.
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>>8990681
That one Korra chick made me appreciate it
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>>8999987

Had to go look that one up, she is sort of cute.

But loses its appeal once the cosplay is off. I mean thats the major issue with cosplay porn. Once the costume is off, its just not cosplay anymore. So i prefer my tiddies and butts in cute cosplays.
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>>8999872
>>8999878
Another CD girl here and y'all do realize that's NOT Koyomatsu right? That's a newer girl Eleena
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>>8990681
Either that or 14 year olds in AOT cosplay, I take the deviants any day.
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>>8999853
What has Kassandra Leigh done specifically? I'm curious....
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>>8999855
Bear doesn't have all of the power. in >>8999159 it says that all sets are judged by a panel of 3 people, no one person has all of the power.

I will confirm though Envy has become a self-ceneterd cunt.
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>>8999851
https://fetlife.com/users/103924
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>>8999187
begging for cheesecake photos of proof.
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>>9000152
I know she can be bitchy and standoffish
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>>8990801
her face is so pretty... the size and cosplay... not so pretty
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>>9000052
Okay. I was just going by what other anon said.
>>9000152
http://getoffegl.livejournal.com/tag/name:%20unseelie_allure
>>9000166
And I was saying I'm pretty sure she's wrong.
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>>8991041
It's really offensive because they don't even pick pretty girls. This is literally the only thin girl i've seen so far: >>8990824

The other average or almost thin girls have the biggest god damn butter faces.

I don't care if your costume is on point, it's porn you're supposed to be pretty not talented. This is offensive.

>>8999159
>empowered ham planet

This sucks because i'd totally like this kind of porn if it actually had PRETTY girls in it.
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>>8990824
Is this some form of sexy monokuma?
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>>9000411
...yes
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>>9000436
Fucking degenerates
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>>9000405
have you seriously ever looked at any images that weren't just posted here? Or are you just fucking retarded?
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>>9000491
I think they're retarded
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>>8991939
Too bad porphyria is a snobby cunt who shits on what few fans she has.
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>>9000052
too bad there isn't much of a difference. both ugly.
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>>9000166
ive subscribed to envy to see if id get more behind the scenes things on her patreon but it is literally nothing but old photos and sob stories about being sick all the time or how she is working on stuff but after 5 months still has nothing to show. if what the money is going towards is stuff like her half assed ugly poison ivy cosplay then i feel like every patreon should pull out. reposting underwear shots from 4 years ago when you were skinnier doesn't make good content and is not an apology for not updating. its the same images from her facebook and instagram. huge waste of money.

the past month she posted a ' my boobs didnt get me attention and respect at metrocon!' or whatever convention is was and said it was body shaming and harassment that she didn't get attention. shes such a fucking bitch now and so self centered.
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anyone else noticed the itty titty brigade is what is running cosplaydeviants recently? that seems to be what is popular on there now.
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>>9000557
Koyomatsu on the left and Eleena on the right. They really don't look similar
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>>9000559
she does post the same pics over and over again
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>>9000559
>sob stories
>old shots reposted
>no recent shit
Sounds exactly like all of the Patreons/Tumblrs with entitled whiners ablooblooing about how they're soooo siiiiiickkk rn guize pls donate.
I get that people have off days and sickness sucks but come on, you're essentially getting money for pictures of a hobby you'd be into whether you were being paid or not. Put some effort into it, ffs, even progress shots would be better than an endless barrage of dramatic sobbing.
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Tom Croom is somewhat involved and for me that's enough to dislike the company.
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>>9000753
One of the CD models that already posted here, I hate Tom Croom and the only association he has with the company is that Troy is somehow friends with that tool.
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>>9000753
>>9000843
CD gal who pointed out the difference between Koyomatsu and Eleena. Dare I ask who this Tom guy is?
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>>9000889
He's just a douche that's super full of himself. He loves to tell his "Croom stories" which is basically him just talking about how awesome he is. He tries to get into panels at cons without showing his badge or not showing ID for 18+ panels, yelling "Don't you know who I am?!" He's so disliked somebody took the engine out of his car and set it next to his car in the parking lot before.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tom+Croom
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/S8933110#p8934512
But hey, at least he's not a criminal like some of the targets of drama in this state.
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>>9000634
really not too much of a difference besides one knows how to haphazardly apply makeup better.
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>>9000753
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK TOM
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>>9000891

>see also:evil

Top bantz. Any more on the engine out of car story? That sounds hilarious.
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>>9000681
progress shots would imply that envy actually makes her own costumes. She would have to take time away from eating in order to do so.
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>>8999159
How are we supposed to believe that any of this is true?
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>>9001440
Different CD gal here and I can vouche its true. Minus the bit about GG simply because I dunno about their inner workings
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>>9000529
does she even do shit for them anymore? I see her plenty on Vampirefreaks but not lately on CD
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One of the CD gals who's been posting here, y'all do realize sets aren't released immediately right? When a model shoots a set and sends it in there's a queue it waits in to be reviewed and either accepted or denied. Sets sit in the queue for MONTHS before they get reviewed simply because of how many are sent in. Even after a set has been accepted and purchased by the company it can take weeks or even more months before it goes live. Just because a model hasn't had a set go live in a little while doesn't mean she isn't still shooting
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>>9001449
Well shit, if two different people can do it, then Hell.....I'm a CD girl too ^_^
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>>9001592
If you don't want to believe what's truthfully been said about the pay that's your own fault. No point in lying about it.
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>>9001599
The pay's shit, considering you need to send in 75 photos minimum
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>>9001599
I'm not saying that I don't believe the information that was given about CD as a site, their policies, or pay. What I don't believe is the claim that anyone in this thread is a CD model.

They could always, you know, post pics as proof. But then again, I suppose that would make too much sense.
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Trust me Love, I can't speak for the another anon but I am a CD model. Y'all are painfully ignorant if y'all think we aren't aware of these threads
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>>9001655
Oh a *third* pretend CD model? I wonder how many people in this thread *aren't* CD models?
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>>9001634
60 photos.
sauce: http://www.cosplaydeviants.com/faq/
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>>8994563
GG imo has way better photographers, cosplays, models, etc.
What YOU MEANT TO SAY WAS at least they aren't as bad as Pixel Vixens.
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>>9001655
No, we just don't give a shit about vapid bitches that claim they are not doing porn, but art.
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>>9001672
Not a third you clod. I've been posting since pointing out it was Eleena on the AX advert
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>>9001717
And yet here you are. Though let's be real, ANYTHING can be porn. Hand a thirteen year old boy the swimsuit section of a JC Penney catalogue and something that isn't porn suddenly is as far as he's concerned. Artists have been working with nudity for centuries. It was attributed to being God like as the Gods didn't wear clothes. From a legal standpoint what we CD and GG girls do is considered porn. But as you can tell by different models ways of shooting their sets, some of us see it and treat it as an art form. Adding a smidge of sensuality doesn't immediately toss it into porn. We are nerdy girls who enjoy nudity. What's so wrong with that?
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>>8996428
you get shot out within a year and then you can either prostitute yourself or live on wellfare. Ex porn girls are not employable. Check out Bree Olsen's sob story.

Also, if you do the more extreme stuff which pays better, you can do permanent harm to your orifices.
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>>9001745
ancient greek statues of female gods were dressed in actual clothes, which were replaced every year during a ceremony. Don't blame your degeneracy on the great hellenic ancestors.
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>>9000634
they look identical just different hair/contacts and shitty makeup
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>>9001820
It was even advertised on Black Lilith, the company site, when new. I don't know how many but there are legit live action renditions of Lilith Soft games/hentai. The source is porn, but it still counts a cosplay porn to me. And it's always wrong and lazy but serviceable enough to people that want to see something like it.
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>>9001821
Actually you're correct. I was mixing up a fact about the ancient olympics. They competed nude to show off for the Gods, not to emulate them. That's my bad. But really you wanna shit on nudity while praising the Greeks for it? You ever read a Greek myth? Shit is fuuuucked up
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>>9001842
And piercings, tattoos, different chin, different nose, one has freckles while the other doesn't. Oh yea. Completely identical
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>>9001745
Here we go, trying to justify it as not porn because of a "smidge" of sensuality. Then they do spread eagle poses.

Gtfo.
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>>9001425
>>9001425
She has posted /some/ progress shots. Just kidding. Only one progress shot in the whole year and that is basically of her really shitty poison ivy she did. it was ill fitted, looked awful, hot glue everywhere, and the makeup was so street side hooker that i don't blame the convention she attended for ignoring and not wanting to give her or penny attention. if this is the shit people are paying for on patreon then they should grab their pitchforks.
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>>9001653
lol iknow exactly which model is on here and she is even poste din this thread
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>>9001877
Dumbass I said SOME girls. SOME girls prefer to be more sexual and SOME prefer to be more artsy
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>>9001705
Didn't it used to be 40 about 3 years ago? What the hell is with the high kick up to 60/75?

>>9001842
They look VERY similar, anon. Two other people already pointed it out. Can't see the tattoos when you are showing face images and one is crooked.

>>9001745
I agree. Some girls do see it as fun and being naked isn't a bad thing. The thing that jimmies people I believe is when a model doesn't even try to pose or make a new face or has a shitty costume, but still gets the money through CosplayDeviants. At that point it isn't the model, it is the people who accept the sets. CosplayDeviants had really good standards several years ago and recently the sets have been so shitty and the costumes store bought, inaccurate. Several of the girls have said they hate things they dress up as, but go out of their way to cosplay it for the site and don't even try with the outfits, but they get accepted anyways. That's something that bothers people.
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>>9001897
Bless you. I can't speak for anyone other than myself but I always do my best to accurately portray my character. Hoping my new set comes out soon as it's MUCH better than my last one and I adore the character. My cosplays I usually either make or put together from pieces I've found. Plenty of us aren't rude bitches and are true nerds but you have to understand many of us get very tired of bullshit very quickly and simply won't put up with it. Sometimes that's seen as bitchy *shrug*
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OP of the side by side here. Here's a better one. Koyomatsu on the left and Eleena on the right. Fair enough they look somewhat similar but they are far from identical
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more pics plz
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>You don't do real work. You get money for taking your clothes off and providing a bastardized version of intimacy, by proxy, for people who otherwise don't have the confidence to get it for themselves.

That's it, show some pride in being a cubicle jockey, as if you're doing something meaninful!

Face it, unless you're a teacher, scientist, doctor, or police/firefighter/etc, your job probably doesn't mean shit either. Get off the high horse.
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>>9002287
Im the person she is replying to. Its not just on the internet. You get people who know you IRL by somehow finding you at your job and making crude comments at you or at conventions. That shit isn't okay. What they do is modeling and it happens to be nude modeling for some. As was said before, a lot of the models DO find it as an art form, but others just do it to be slutty and get gratification from men through it. There are good and bad sides to the business, either through cosplaydeviants or through another means of nude expression [even nude drawing models which from experience I have had my fair share of creeps after 2 hours of just standing there and posing].
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>>9001736
Anyone can *claim* to be a CD model....pics for proof would be the obvious way to make anyone believe it.
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>>9002353
Their job may take more skill though.

Anyone can take off their clothes.
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>>9002373
or you can just steal images from the site or other various sites that have full sets
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>>9002386

And yet once they're in the ground both jobs are just as meaningful.

Except the pornographer leaves something behind that is of use to future generations, and the calculator clicker gets their entire filesystem replaced within three years.
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>>9002386
On the other hand, anybody can learn skills, only some people can be somebody other people want to look at naked.

Although you wouldn't know it by looking at Cosplay Deviants.
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>>9002287

>a bastardized version of intimacy, by proxy, for people who otherwise don't have the confidence to get it for themselves

You need a hug, cunt.
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>>9002287
here anon
>>8998486
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So I was curious enough that I actually paid the ten bucks for a 30 day account to see what CD was really like.

Most of these girls are actually pretty decent, it's much better than /cgl/ threads and stuff had led me to believe.

I'm gonna feel weird as hell if I find anybody I know, or if I run into any of these girls at a con though.
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>>9002386

>Anyone can take off their clothes.

But not everyone does.

Same way, anyone can clean, but not everyone does. And the same way everyone can mow grass, but not everyone does.

Fuck, even walking dogs is a job.
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>>9001889
Okay, if you supposedly "know", then provide a name and pics to back up your claim.
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>>9001705
Oh they lowered it then, when I was filling out the paperwork a few years ago it was 75

>>9001713
Well Pixel Vixens does have hardcore shoots/videos too

>>9001897
Shitty photographers willing to work for so little pay. Figure how many of those 60 photos are posted, and how many shit photos get rejected.
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>>9002770
>.
ITT users who don't understand the idea of anonymity and that revealing oneself could lead to backlash due to NDAs
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>>9003009
At least I'm not claiming to be something I'm *not*....
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>>9003009
Then why brag about being a nude model? You've already shown yourself to everyone....there's nothing left to hide. What's to lose?????
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>>9003193
knowing that they post on /cgl/.
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>>9003000
I have to imagine most of those photogs are really doing it for the chance to ogle naked girls and because they think they're gonna get laid out of it. (And if they're anything like the guys I know who work in mainstream porn or the cosplay photogs who do "after dark" kinda shit, the latter probably almost never happens.)
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>>9003193
You just proved my point. If you want free nude pics, there's tons of leaks all over, no need to not-so-subtlely beg for it
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>>9003557
You have two camps, the ones trying to get laid, and the ones who just work and produce photos for the sake of art and/or $
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>>9003557

Dunno, I'm interested in both drawing an maybe even photographing nude models.

I can tell you at least from my position, that if you are working you can't really think about boning your model because you need to focus on your work to not fuck up.

But yea, i guess there is always a few overly horny dicks out there who want to bone everything.

>>9003659

I doubt anon wants nude pics. A timestamp can or does usually only include a piece of paper and a face.
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>>9003222
"They" don't post on /cgl/

People post on /cgl/ and pretend to be models.
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>>9003659
I'm not looking for nude pics. I'm looking for a timestamped face pic to show identity. If I wanted CD photosets (which I don't anymore), I'd torrent a siterip (which I already have).
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>>9004017
Is it so unreasonable to think that somebody who likes cosplay and is deviant enough to do nice cosplay would browse the cosplay board on 4chan?

They aren't anything special, they're just people like you.
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>>9004584
Nude cosplay*
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I know 3 people from CD and even though they're nice people and I don't mind seeing them at gatherings or hanging out with them, I can't help but be bothered by the fucking egos from two of them
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>>8990735
I hope that's a joke. Like it or not, it lowers the bar for cosplay as a whole. There is general attitude towards female cosplayers to be the hot revealing vixen or you're basically in the "everyone else" category.
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>>8998045
maybe that business wouldn't have started if you sluts didn't started to do your "sexy photoshoots" or having con sex and wearing it like a badge of honor. If someone notied that there was a maerket that could be exploited, is because the resource was already there, and it was you who created it.
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>>9004584
So, you're telling me that /cgl/ is *full* of models?
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>>9004589
Why are their egos so high? What causes that?
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>>9002373
if you want to look at porn just look it up, anon. no one owes you pics for "proof".
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>>9004589
you mean envy and foxy?
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>>9004732
where the fuck are you even getting that logic? lol

>>8991939
this one lurks
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>>9004019

and again you fail to realize Cosplay Deviants is petty enough to take action on their models if they get on their bad side, even if they're defending them on CGL, as their clauses have also agreed to not disclose "secrets," which have already been done (pay rates, photos, policies, and etc) despite it pretty much being common knowledge. It's CD's pettiness that even led to Geek Goddesses to be created.

So by them ID'ing themselves, it can cause further troubles for them later on, if they get on the bad side of the CD admins/execs, allowing them to claim contract breaches and shit.
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>>9004969
Holy shit where are you getting your information? They have answered one their personal tumblr page and Facebook page about pay and even go as far as telling people off. I'm referring to the actual Cosplay Deviant pages, not the models' pages. Talking out about Cosplay Deviants isn't a breach of fucking anything. The models themselves do it all the time when Cosplay Deviants isn't the one doing it. Hell, anyone can know this stuff. Apply to be a model and just never do anything and you're welcome to all the knowledge. You just can't disclose secret events. That's basically it.

'Secrets'. Please. There are event secrets, but there isn't much else. Easy to see that you have absolutely no affiliation with CD.
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>>9004969
>>9004982
Honestly, if it were me, it wouldn't be CD's legal stuff stopping me, it'd be the torrent of harassment that would ensue from IDing myself.

/r9k/ redpill types already like to hang around on /cgl/ and attack girls whenever they see an opening, and a known CD model would be the biggest one ever for them. Then add the thirsty dudes, and then the inevitable shit talking from other girls who look down on doing cosporn.

There's a few CD models that I recognize as old /cgl/ trips, so I can guess who the anons in this thread might be.
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>>9004748
I never said anything about wanting to look at porn, nor did I say anyone owed me anything. Try reading again.

>>9004969
If the policies are common knowledge, what do these so-called "models" risk by posting a quick snapshot of themselves sitting at their computer?
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>>9004985
CD gal who pointed out Koyomatsu vs Eleena. Honestly that's the main point. I never post on 4chan but I occasionally check out CGL for the keks. I've managed to stay off CGLs radar and I hope to keep it that way
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>>9004969
Geek goddess is the one with the super strict secret rules. CD models are encouraged to talk about what they know. If it was supposed to be a secret we wouldn't be told.
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>>9004982
>>9005261

Yep, you have no clue. First, I didn't even say the "secrets" were closely-guarded, since they can easily be found, and that it was more an issue of the Deviants staying on the good side or risk being harassed personally and by whatever legal leverage the business would have against them by their public actions in real life and online, despite shit posted on the internet. Second, I never claimed to be a Deviant or an employee of the business.

>>9004985

This user gets it, the reason why the Anons don't want to reveal themselves.

>>9006325
They both, among others of these modeling sites, have pretty much the same contract. The "no competition" clause and the "not revealing trade secrets" clause, both of which are loosely-defined enough to the lay person, but open enough to include some wiggle room for the businesses if they need to take a model or photographer to court in possible perceived violations of contracts.
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>>8992405
Domi is just very dry and direct I think
She's never been outright rude to people who didn't deserve it that i have seen
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>>8992414
she's super cute
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>>8998620
She might not be wanting to show her crotch unless some money is present.
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