Opening image is from Kera issue 45, circa June 2002, and features Metamorphose.
Old Thread (Highlights from Kera 68, 46, 32 / 80s lolita with Atsuki Onishi '85 & Olive )
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Bringing along these questions from a few threads ago:
>Having any recent purchases?
>What's your oldest item?
>What kind if coords are you planning?
>Who's your old school inspiration/idol?
>What is it that draws you to old school?
>Do you have a specific favorite old school coord? If so, what is it you like so much about it?
>Do you have an old school "crown jewel" of your wardrobe? If so, why that piece?
>I feel old school has been making a comeback. What do you think?
And I failed. Does this link to the old one?
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I like the coord other than the shoes, but the angle makes this girl look like a midget.
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Its hard to see, but there are a bunch of lolita in the background of this guitar ad
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oh... this girl made some not-great choices.
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She...tried?
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I have no idea what is going on in the left one here; mostly the hat reminds me of the bodyline wizard hat and it's amusing. I'm also failing captchas, which means I should probably sleep
Doing gods work anon. Thank you.
>>8989730
how dare you anon those shoes are beautiful
>>8989774
I laughed a bit because these socks look like the Baby ones everyone is wearing now.
>>8990064
I was thinking the same. As well as some remarks on here regarding some of the girls weight, face, etc that would most definitely be made.
>>8990067
That's sad because because I find most of these girls in these pics pretty in their own way. I love the way they look unique and how the make up is so simple. The beauty is in the viewers eyes after all.
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You don't really know that these remarks weren't made just because the girls were in a magazine, though. I remember Fruits magazine editor saying they strictly don't shoot lolitas because guys said they were frumpy and ugly, and (seperately), someone on egl asked if anyone knew what happened to a Japanese classic lolita, who shut down her blog because people were leaving mean comments about her looks and outfits, and when she moved to another blog the haters found that too, so she shut down all her blogs. So some bitching definitely went down somewhere, just not in the magazine.
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Three theories:
> 1. They are all genuinely teenagers and they're just ugly/awkwardly posed/old-looking
> 2. They're in their thirties or later and lying about their age to hide the shame of still being into alt fashion when they should be a responsible worker by now.
> 3. They're in their thirties or later and lying about their age out of an ageplay fetish.
>>8990057
I saw an old magazine scan with those actual Baby socks in it at 3am a few weeks ago, then lost the page and couldn't find it again. They're not as new as people think.
>>8990126
Mm, I sometimes wonder if online hostility is why so few Japanese lolitas post online.
>>8990193
Probably. It's probably not just lolita either. With a society where conformity is a virtue, wearing any outlandish fashion is a form of rebellion. Why bother posting and exposing it to more people who will refuse to understand it?
>>8990216
Plus if they're blogs/photos/whatever are found it could cost them their jobs, and shame their families. Japanese people in general keep pretty low profile on the net.
>>8990219
But that doesn't seem to be the case as much anymore though. There are tons of Lolitas from Japan who now post showing their face, even realisticsweet posted their face eventually.
>>8990226
That's true, things are changing and loosening up a bit, which I think is great. It probably also helps that there have been a few moral panics since visual kei, and neither Lolita nor vkei look like they used to. But I'd still argue for a general, society wide trend of keeping a low profile online for fear of social repercussions, which naturally impacts the alternative fashion scene online.
Dumping some stuff I haven't seen posted here before, nothing too exciting, just photos of dresses and brand shops that came up when I searched the Japanese name of certain pieces.
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Was that a Japanese classic or a Western lolita?
Also some magazines hating lolita is strange to me. It feels like even now, lolitas stick to their own magazines and other styles feel they don't blend well with lolita's.
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You didn't know? It was well-known that the editor of FRUiTS thought lolita was boring and uncreative, although I hadn't heard that their no-lolita policy was also motivated by male readers disliking it.
>>8990307
No, I always knew about the FRUiTS thing. I think that honestly contributed to lolitas being more in their own circle. It's strange how much men apparently disliked it though.
>>8990317
Tbh I can see why men wouldn't like it. It's not like it's a very attractive or sexy style after all. Frankly, what I find it more strange how much the male readers opinions on a style directed towards women were taken into account. I guess FRUiTS has a lot more male readers than I thought...
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Yes, I'm quite surprised. I assumed Fruits readers were majority female.
>>8990572
Fruits is way more unisex then Kera inside. Very little makeup related content (1 or 2 pages per 10 issues-ish?), lots of the adverts are very male-gaze (I'm looking at a naked female torso from behind in one right now, but I think it's against the rules to post that?)
Baby ads are notably feminine, but they aren't in every issue.
Non-photo content (fan mail, interviews) are very no frills layout.
The two phaidon books are a higher percent female fashion than the actual magazine because it's ore interesting, I think?
>>8990827
Here is a great example to show the difference; this is kera 27, circa 2001.
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And then, in the back of the older issues you have these. These are in almost every older issue of kera, they vary from issue to issue but almost every one of them is very ...if you are fat feel bad and buy our solution-y.
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This one has a mail-away card with it as a postcard in the magazine binding.
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Picking back up with Kera 45 from 2002
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I think this one is a really cute coord!
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I haven't the slightest idea what's going on here but I love it.
That's it for Kera 45, moving on to Kera 29, 2001
>>8991076
someone asked for more algonquins expecting goth, but just FYI... not very goth.
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This is just a fun streetsnap, obviously not lolita, but fun.
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The girl on the left has some cool bunny themed stuff
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Skirt is surprisingly from BTSSB
>>8991109
Check out these berry shoes
>>8991115
Might be Meta camo
>>8991118
this is the "carry a teddy bear" era of lolita
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I swear this is a fashion advert and not some weird horror thing...
>>8990921
No shit that left one is NG, Kera.
>>8989694
source on the black skirt? that necklace skirt set is so cute
>>8994003
Agreed! I like the otome feel in this coord, it's super interesting, cute and wearable. Everything I love in old school.
I have been having this feeling lately that my coords are super pretentious or something. I don't dress strictly in old schoo, I kinda mix it and I mostly aim for the style first printed dresses have. Does anybody else get this feeling with old school? I'm not looking my style to be 100% old school but still something feels so off.
>>8994003
The skirt and necklace are both from Jane Marple
>>8991139
Speaking of Alice Auaa, does anyone know much about it's origins or anything else about the brand? I was reading a wiki page on it and it was interesting.
>Due to the elaborate decorations and construction of their garments, prices of Alice Auaa clothing are high.
>In some cases, the brand has been dubbed "The Chanel of Gothic Lolita" for their high price points.
Does AA still have this reputation? I don't really see or hear anyone use or talk about this brand anymore. Would it be safe to say this is something that's more of an oldschool brand gothic lolitas and maybe aristocrats used, rather than a "modern" lolita brand? It makes me kind of want to find pieces to use in old school gothic lolita. I'd also like to find any street snaps or old pictures of lolita using their pieces.
>>8994437
It's not so much a reputation as it is just... fact? They are a designer brand now. They do runways at events with other designer brands and not with 5 other brands as a showcase of what those weird little kids in harajuku are wearing like other lolita brands do.
Here is their tokyo fashion week info:
https://tokyo-mbfashionweek.com/en/brands/detail/alice-auaa/
>>8994437
They're not a lolita brand and never have been.
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Maybe I didn't word it too well. I know they've never been a lolita brand, but does anyone still use their pieces for gothic lolita or aristo? I always considered them kind of like VW where they aren't lolita, but some lolitas use them. I just don't hear much of them anymore and was wondering if lolitas or artiocrats even use their stuff anymore.
Kera 29, Kera shop catalog
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these adverts are too crazy to skip
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kera shop angel
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And that's it for this issue.
>>8995343
Kera 41, from Feb 2002. This looks like a bunch of 0101ne staff member snaps?
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ETC
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Mana-Sama takin' us to church
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These old school threads are the best threads this board has had. You are doing god's work RD, keep it up!
>>8995445
Sorry, I stopped to nab a dress from the AP release
>>8995412
h.naoto interview, if you read Japanese (I don't, sorry)
>>8995484
Not many streetsnaps in this issue feature anything related to lolita at all.
>>8995488
Because this is just too much
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God damn if old school nun isn't the best. Resisting the desire for this dress because I'll never find it.
CYNICAL NEO PRINCESSISM
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Baby the Stars Shine Bright Catalog, March 14th, 2003.
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This has a few URLS, first
https://web.archive.org/web/20040105061803/http://sc.gaiax.com/sc/fantasy/mitohit/
One of her friends runs a baby fan site:
https://web.archive.org/web/20041010172150/http://changeofair.easter.ne.jp/index.html
>>8996063
this is from the baby site, but it might be the same girl? or one of her friends? or she just liked the photo? IDK
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Also from the Baby site.
>>8990295
Late reply, but the classic lolita was Japanese, and the girls picking on her were Japanese, although I'm not sure if they were also lolitas or normalfags. It only popped up as a topic on egl because a Western lolita asked "does anyone know what happened to <name> ?" and then a few other lolitas filled in the blanks. Unfortunately I don't recall her name, and like I said she already deleted all of her blogs.
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See the comments here: http://egl.livejournal.com/17791041.html
it was Rizzell.
>>8996095
Another issue! Sadly, I don't have this one
Kera 42, March 2002. I have been trying to jump around in time more so it's not as monotone, but I'm running low on issues I already bookmarked, and I'm really dizzy today.
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It isn't monotone at all. I'm very happy with whatever you decide to post.
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Ahh, I have that ETC jsk. I was always curious the year it was from or thereabouts.
It's definitely once of my favorite pieces I own.
>>8996537
The photos with the little crowns like this are from older issues; it's a little ranking thing. I think it's something like the top snaps from the issue before? But I'm not 100% sure
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All the different laces are incredible, holy shit. The layers look a bit odd, is the crown lace on the collar and bodice a part of a detachable yoke of some sort?
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misako looks way cute here, I've always kinda preferred the more street and punkish looks on her.
>>8996452
The english on these!
> masturbate with us
>My fingers are dripping with cum
>something something make you feel my hot cunt to bone
>>8996614
omg, I totally didn't even notice!
It says no more photos, so I made a new one here:
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