Why all the hate on the queen all of a sudden?
itt misako worship
>>8968021
ok
in all fairness though wtf happened at AM?
![itemkimono,modelmisakoaoki-0e0f9e3c8335bc5fcdf6f3fdd275f33a_h[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZGNJ9f4.jpg "itemkimono,modelmisakoaoki-0e0f9e3c8335bc5fcdf6f3fdd275f33a_h[1].jpg")
afaik misako started falling out of favour after the way that she dealt with what happened at AM last year. besides, PT is our one true queen and midori is a prettier lolita model anyways.
>>8968030
What happened at AM again?
also all for midori supremacy
>>8968036
>>8968030
fuck off plebs
slay my queen
misako is getting old
Misako was alerted to how the Leighs (conheads of AM) exploited the lolita community and harassed numerous girls in the comm, and she let them picked the Kawaii ambassador, but she still continues to work with them. I've been to their shop in Texas, which happened after the scandal, and she's totally promoted there. They have a section dedicated to her photos, calendar, book, etc. She's a total sham and doesn't care about the health of the community, just her wallet.
>>8968075
That probably has a lot to do with Japanese culture (business especially). She probably realized these are not only business affiliates, but people with a lot of sway with a foreign country she doesn't understand the culture nor language of, and thought "shouganai". To Japanese people, the harder something is to do = "shouganai", essentially "it is what it is / there's no helping it". If she tried to do anything, there's a possibility it would be lost in translation and she'd come across the wrong way, especially since she isn't super immersed in the western community and doesn't know much about it aside from visiting every now and again to be touted around as our ~queen~ by her English-speaking pimps.
Definitely not defending that mentality because it's shitty and does Japan no favors (>Fukushima), but it's probably the explanation.
>>8968093
I don't know... pretty much everyone with their head screwed on right dislikes the Leighs so her involvement is only bad for her, and surely she knows that.
I never liked her much, and thats been a hit intensified with recent events. She always seems fake, especially when those kawaii paten videos she did (which admittedly were fun) revealed that she puts on a fake ~kawaii~ voice. She doesn't give a shit about Lolitas or the fashion, she listed her favourite film as "Lolita", it's bizarre. She has also lied about when she started modelling, which is very odd.
>>8968116
I'm with you
never liked her
glad some negative light has come and is showing everyone how fake she is
>>8968116
>She has also lied about when she started modelling.
I was never a fan either, but I think nobody would blame her for lying about modelling for Bodyline.
>>8968135
You have to start somewhere in lolita. Bodyline is sort of getting your foot in the door for lolita.
>>8968140
JetJ also have constant model searches
>>8968135
>>8968140
Didn't she say that she wasn't actually a lolita when she started modeling, and that it was modeling for brands that got her into it? It's highly possible that she was just looking for modeling jobs (or got scouted off the street) and Yan waifu'd her, and it wasn't until she got more serious that she realized Bodyline was a no-no for the Japanese.
Eh it's just s few people trying to start shit. She isn't as popular now because of AM but the hate is just salty anons.
>>8968093
that's not how that works. Japanese business sense is almost the exact opposite of what you claimed.
>>8968156
no it's not. i'm sick of misako and this green tea bitch bullshit. she's just a coward and trying to get away with ignoring everything cause she's a girl.
>>8968157
In terms of publicly calling out a business affiliate for interpersonal drama that happened behind closed doors and is only spread through the internet by word-of-mouth and hearsay, it is.
Hey when is this bitch a fucking nurse like I read everywhere?
>>8968075
Why tf did you go to their shop? It's so stupid when people say they boycott them and then turn around and buy stuff from them because burando.
desu she is just relevant because she has been modeling the longest. One day her stardom will fade like Mana and they will just become a novelty.
>>8968075
so you're pissing on misako but you go to their shop?
I always liked Misako for her outfits. She wears a lot of toned down and more mature styled sweet and I dig that. I don't know anything about drama around her because I don't really follow any "idols" like that. The last time I remember this topic getting brought up it was decided that she was still cool but I guess thing have changed.
I love her casual style
>>8968030
but Midori hardly wears lolita
>>8968258
>>8968261
Same here. I have a similar face and skin / hair color, so starting out I was able to look at her and emulate whatever I thought looked good. It was a really nice guide for starting out when I'd never really been involved in fashion before. Say what you will about her, but her fashion sense has always been pretty sharp.
>>8968270
>fashion sense
She hasn't any. All of her coords are very safe, and when she's modelling for brands shes told what to wear. I still like a lot of things she's worn, but she's by no means original or inspirational.
It's a great example of getting away with shit just cause you're kawaii though
>>8968250
Females amiright?
Bumping for some delicious misako drama.
Always knew she was super fake.
Misako ages gracefully though. But i always felt uneasy with her when i saw her at tea parties. Never liked her much.
I wonder if she and maki/asuka were bitching about girls in tea parties and stuff. That would be fun to see.
Midori is a cutie though. Probably not innocent but she seems way more natural. Akira is really cool too.
>>8968308
You sound like a jelly white girl who already looks 40.
>>8968318
>>8968308
She doesn't look that bad, if we're going to talk about how bad she is, let's talk about what she's actually done instead of her physical appearance. There are some things that can't be helped, laugh lines are one of them. Shit attitude and liking K8 isn't.
>>8968214
Lol i knew it.
Now i wonder if she is like Yoo Hee Yi from You're Beautiful.
>>8968320
This. I'm getting sick of that "hurrdurr let's nitpick on her appearance" bullshit. Fuck off she isnt even bad. Not the cutest but not an uggo. Though she did some pretty uncute shit i'm sure
>>8968021
Because she's as fake as Niggri's tiddies
>>8968036
Seconding this i was away during all that drama and was too lazy to read it all when i came back. What exactly happened at AM? Can someone please make a summary?
>>8968381
Read >>8968093
>>8968116
She really listed Lolita as her fave movie?
Kek. Also not surprised. Never liked her and always knew she was faking. Is she even really interested in lolita at all?
In an interview with Midori and Akira they had to show a diagram of their time repartition (like what do you do and how much) she had her diagram cut in two just for nursing and lolita. Eh.
Also fake kawaii voices are so irritating...not cute at all
What do japanese boards think of her? like GirlsChannel (if i can call that a japanese board), i remember we had a thread with translations from there that were pretty savage about dakota and such.
>>8968282
I do agree with you and it applies to sooo many e-famous lolitas as well. Their faces are beautiful/kawaii/pretty but their coords are usually very generic and unoriginal.
>>8968140
Bodyline was a borderline sex shop when it first started. That's totally respectable for a cute little Japanese girl. No blame there, but still.
What's the story on a rumor Misako exposed herself to a kid? Anyone know?
>>8968421
>Misako exposed herself to a kid
Wow what. Exposed in which way?
>>8968151
there are pics of her in kera etc dressed in lolita pre bodyline pics, even the earlier members of egl on livejournal were aware of her before she appeared on the bodyline website - many people commentated on it at the time.
>>8968421
>exposed herself to a kid
What? I need deets on this right away,
>>8968175
this is true, old school ways of business is that if you work for a business that turns out to be dodgy, you take that on your own shoulders as a member of the business 'family' ie, you stay loyal despite bad practices as you chose them in the first place.
Why is everyone so surprised that she is fake? She's a model and it's part of her job as a public figure to put on a persona.
>>8968421
>Bodyline was a borderline sex shop when it first started
People keep saying this but it wasn't really, they had a few sexy costumes as a few cheap super mild bdsm themed costumes but it was really just a cheapo dress-up store (as it still largely is), which included some 'for the bedroom' type costumes. They never, ever sold sex toys, lube and shit like that. Even back in 2001/2 they were selling lolita clothing that was featured in the G&L bible as a cheaper alternative to some of the branded stuff - plenty of people wore bodyline in the street snaps etc as well. The more accessible brand became, the more stigma was attached to it over time, including within Japan.
I like Misako because her face makes great reaction images.
>>8968296
Yui used to be chubs then lost weight when she wanted to get into modeling. She hardly even wears lolita it's mostly jfashion out of her job.
>>8968247
>One day her stardom will fade like Mana
You leave him out of this.
>>8968487
Probably some fake story that someone made up a while back. Not to sound like I'm defending Misako but it's way too far fetched to be true.
>>8968210
I seriously wondered about this.
I'm in healthcare and god knows when I have time for lolita. I don't know how she does it for a job
>inb4 that one nurse goes 'i wear lolita to the car shop you aren't trying hard enough'
I'm not talking about looking kawaii for the car mechanic. I'm talking about holding down two jobs when both of them are clearly time consuming.
>>8968552
I have no idea about this subject and to be honest I was curious as well, but perhaps the medical industry is different over there or something.
>>8968157
Are you familiar with honne and tatemae? Both are a huge hindrance in the Japanese workplace and no one wants to make waves or have an unfavorable opinion to save face with their company. If she was to speak out against the Leigh's, she would be going against promoting lolita in other countries so she puts on her happy face and acts like nothing is wrong, or "shouganai" - it is what it is.
>>8968552
She is just a homecare nurse. In an interview they followed her around work and it was just checking on old people, wiping butt and taking vitals.
>>8968561
It's funny because by carrying on its actually a detriment to the JLA and her own reputation.
>>8968247
Mana is eternal
>>8968552
This >>8968590
She has said in interviews that she specialises in geriatric home care. It's very likely she works for an agency that rosters her pretty loosely based on other commitments she may have. She also has said in interviews that she lives with her parents, so as to avoid having to maintain a separate home when she's busy with work, so it's likely that her financial burden isn't as bad as it could be.
>>8968116
>doesn't care about lolita fashion
Um, you can be salty about the Leighs all you want, but that fanfic her not caring just isn't true. In a sense, lolita is her life and she's probably the ultimate lifestyle lolita in Japan.
What I don't understand is why Western lolitas demand Misako be brought into their drama. The Leigh's are scum, but what has anyone actually done about it besides make petitions, whine here, and make blog posts? Has it ever occurred to anyone that they should get him in some legal trouble, especially people who claimed sexual harassment? Nope. I have no idea why you pass this off as Misako's duty, a random lolita model who is a Japanese citizen, of all people.
Also, how often does she even see them? Do you think all guests should know all the dirt on a con before attending? I hate to break it to you, but most con attendees don't even care.
>>8968318
>>8968308
Its funny, she actually talks about looking like a lifeless doll in her first kawaiipateen video(pic related)
>>8968611
You are right, but the Japanese have a very.... peculiar way of dealing with these kinds of things and would rather save face and ignore it.
>>8968673
She talks on cons about wanting to look like a Pullip doll. "Like a doll" and "I like Pullips a lot" was everything I gathered from her beauty powerpoint.
>>8968988
>called out as a rumor
>taken seriously
Doesn't really look like it anon.
>>8968613
tell that to the GLB
>>8969045
I've been living and working in Japan for almost two years now so try again.
![img-thing[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ek5jbx0.jpg "img-thing[2].jpg")
>>8968486
It's this part:
>sexy costumes
>cheap super mild bdsm themed costumes
Bodyline's not a sex shop because it's selling vibrators or whatever. Instead, it's basically the Leg Avenue of Japan, selling "lolita costumes" alongside cosplay costumes, instead of the real thing. That's why their clothes are made from cheap strange polyester material, cheap scratchy lace, and stiff fabric -- they're meant to be costumes, uncomfortable for only a few hours, instead of real clothes that a lolita can wear all day. That's the reason they're looked down on, imagine some girl showing up in pic related to your tea party and trying to claim she's the lolita-est of the land.
GLB ad space can be bought, and if Bodyline is bringing in the dosh then I don't see why GLB would refuse them ad space. However, when you check the street snaps at the back, where people are giving a rundown of their outfits and naming every brand, suddenly their Bodyline shoes or socks would simply be "I forgot the brand" or "I don't know" instead of openly up admitting that they bought their stuff from a costume shop.
>>8969243
>uncomfortable for only a few hours
You've clearly never worn BL, and using that photo to describe the "lolita costumes" you think they sell, you surely must be trolling
>>8969243
Bodyline sells some pretty decent basics. Of course their lolita options are going to be cheaper fabric etc., but that's what you get for the price. It doesn't mean that all their lolita options are 'costume pieces'.
They offer some cute simple blouses as well as shoes. Their dress options are questionable (mostly due to design) but they're nothing like the image you've attached, and it's silly to assume so.
People who get on their high horse about brand/offbrand/bodyline/whatever need to chill the fuck out. Not everyone has to spend hundreds on each piece to have a beautiful wardrobe- If you're good at coording and can distinguish a versatile cheap piece from a funky looking cheap piece, then it really shouldn't matter WHAT brand/offbrand you're wearing.
It's pretty damn easy to read reviews or even just look at the damn pictures and tell what has better quality lace/material.
>>8969243
I went to check my GLBs on that last thing and you're right. Only two people in all of the GLBs I have admit to wearing bodyline and one of them is a horrendous ita. The rest don't even have the bodyline pieces listed in the outfit rundown.
>>8969243
This is actually a really good example of the stigma Bodyline has in Japan. So much of it's popularity is due to the international fans because we're unaware how much it's hated over there. Yan has always been aware of this.
>>8969265
>>8969273
Anons. Stop having such kneejerk reactions and actually read the comment I responded to.
Specifically, this is Bodyline circa 2000-ish. Not the Bodyline of today.
Bodyline only took lolita seriously and started making lolita clothing seriously much later on because their lolita customer base got bigger. TODAY they have decent lolita clothing. Around 2001/2 though? Very much a costume shop. I'm explaining the history behind Bodyline's "sex costume" comments, not describing today's Bodyline.
>>8968639
Often enough for John to buy her a Prada wallet
>>8968639
Misako put herself into it. The bottom line is that she knew very well about what happened, pretended to care, and then continued working with them despite the testimonies and evidence about how awful they were. Honestly, I initially wanted to believe that Misako was either being led along or that it was some "japanese business" bullshit, but she's just a model who knows where the money is.
>>8968639
She's a nurse isn't she? Whiping Asses is so Lolita.
>>8968296
Old an busted lol
Misako looks great at her age. Most seagulls look old and busted and they're still in their twenties. Oh btw, you sound mad.
People are just looking for an excuse to hate on her. None of the other people who work with AM/the Leighs get so much hate. I want to support the victims but I wonder why no one has reported the Leighs to the police, or have they?
>>8968639
I kind of agree.
It's on the head of those who do have complaints to get the Leighs in legal trouble if they care so fucking much about how they are creepy.
Why is it Misako's responsibility to drag them? She probably doesn't want to accidentally overstep or burn bridges on something that might just be rumors. (Which btw sorry for anyone who did get harrassed, but it does look like rumors to outsiders because no one's gone and gotten any goddamn proof other than online convo screencaps which could be doctored.)
Also, let's not forget there's a language and culture barrier here. How comfortable would you feel going to another country where you don't speak the language having to tell someone off for something you don't have any definitive proof for?
I think Misako's cute and that's about it. I don't idolize her, but putting her down for not being able to act out your ideal way of punishing/ostracizing the Leighs is retarded.
>>8968135
This is from Kera 44, long before she modeled for Bodyline, and long before the date she said she started modeling.
>>8968486
No, bodyline was not featured in the GLB as a cheap place to get lolita. Bodyline purchased advertisements, much like weightloss pills and pic related (too lazy to dig up a bodyline advert, sorry).
Bodyline sold sexy bedroom costumes. They weren't a cheap place to get lolita, they were the place you got lolita if it was your kink.
See: https://web.archive.org/web/20040407150342/http://www.bodyline.jp/cgi-bin/category.php?cd=C1_6
https://web.archive.org/web/20051122174823/http://www.bodyline.jp/cgi-bin/category.php?cd=C1_5&PHPSESSID=f5ba81af50542566dd88bd041cd609fe
https://web.archive.org/web/20051122175030/http://www.bodyline.jp/cgi-bin/category.php?cd=C1_7&PHPSESSID=f5ba81af50542566dd88bd041cd609fe
https://web.archive.org/web/20051123034658/http://www.bodyline.jp/cgi-bin/category.php?cd=C1_3&PHPSESSID=f5ba81af50542566dd88bd041cd609fe
The parent company:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070810070420/http://www.body-magic.co.jp/
>>8969871
Misako put the Leighs in positions of power in her organization. Any american JLA ambassador reports to Denise (john stepped down). And that's why it's her problem and she needs to care about it.
As for proof, Misako works directly with brands who have had shit stolen from them by AM. She works with models who have been mistreated on a regular basis. I think she's more than capable of getting proof of things being messed up. She chooses to turn a blind eye to it for personal profit because she's a sellout who doesn't give a damn about the community.
>>8970569
>Fuck'in Goth
Wow I want to wear all of that stuff.
Someone from GLW sucked John Leigh's dick to promote the store. Are we just not going to talk about this at all? Leigh is scum, but so are the nasty whores who fucked him. Just disgusting, I have no respect for sluts who don't respect themselves.
Chokelate makes shit up all the time why the fuck do people believe her? She's also a fucking aspie. Go look at her thread in /snow/ on lolcow.
>>8970907
Speaking of which, Chokelate was apart of this when BtSSB lost their inventory.
>>8968637
>more than 30 years old
>livin' with parents
>no husband
Ohhh gurl
>>8970985
But she just said why she lives with her parents? Also, a lot of Japanese celebrities will be very quiet about their private life, particularly love life. Misako doesn't fucking need a husband and could be gay for all we know. I really wouldn't be surprised with all the frilly, girly effeminate things surrounding her life.
>>8970907
Choke isn't the only person who spoke out about it. In fact, buttcape's testimony was by far the most detailed
>>8968021
Can we talk about Misako getting fat?
I know some press people who work with her and they were all sad because "she has been gaining so much weight and clothes don't fit on her like they used to". The queen is slipping!
>>8971016
>someone who, uh, works in Japan said she was getting fat
Yeah, I'm going to have to ask for proof.
>>8969378
> Have you never had anyone to try to suck up to you and kiss ass? Because that right there is ass kissing and you don't need to be bffs with someone to get it.
>>8970579
>a position of power
>JLA
Ok.
She still can't do anything like dismiss someone over something that hasn't been proven or investigated by whatever authorities should. Again, she was not the victim, so she can't go file a police report. My point about language and culture barriers still stands.
If you want Denise to be sacked so damn badly, help victims file reports!
>>8971276
>thinking that normies would help a group of girls in frilly Victorian-inspired costumes prosecute a normie
You do realize that normal people don't take lolitas seriously right? Besides, the JLA is basically a made up organization that doesn't do shit. It's like trying to get the police to tell a group of 5 year olds to remove the "NO GIRLS ALLOWED" sign from their playhouse.
>>8968021
Misako pls, no one cares, delete this thread and lurk more.
>>8971016
I would like to see proof of this but I also wouldn't be surprised, she is getting old and some people gain weight when they get older.
>>8970569
this isn't entirely true either, bodyline was occasionally featured in the general catalogues they often laid out by brand or item type, separate to the single page, more obviously 'paid for' style advertisements. Not that bodyline was ever really promoted as a 'brand' though, certainly not in the same league as even the cheaper brands such as mam or putumayo.
I'm not saying that bodyline wasn't mostly just a sexy costumes shop, but it was occasionally featured in the bible outside of advertisements, bodyline was sometimes listed in kera street snaps too as their readers seemingly gave slightly fewer shits. Young, poor students etc have pretty much always shopped at bodyline for cheap bits and bobs, even if they weren't always willing to admit it - it's not/was not not just bored couples looking for their sexyfuntime costumes. Sure the sexy costumes aspect has been part of the stigma, but it's not the full picture.
As for their apparently numerous shady business practices..well that's another thing again.
tl;dr Japan has (and has had) plenty of sex shops and more risque sexy dress up costume shops over the years but bodyline was never really one of them, it's always been pretty tame, even back in the day.
>>8970545
This has already been mentioned but it's true, she modelled way before bodyline, largely off the back of being featured in street snaps in kera etc. Misako was well known to the lolita community at egl before she started modelling for bodyline, and many people were surprised and commentated about it at the time.
I wonder is she thinks that the first wave of western lolitas from 2001-2003ish have completely forgotten or left the scene entirely. Sure, most have disappeared at least from the prominent online communities but they haven't all vanished as if to have never existed either.
>>8971397
the original waifu couch chan, also one of the original BL lolita clothing releases.
>>8969845
Also wondering if/why no one filed any sexual harassment charges to their local authorities. If you felt violated enough ti rally a community to grab their torches, why not tell the cops too? That's the more logical, less attention whore-like thing to do. Honestly, the longer this drags out, the more I begin to suspect that it was all bullshit. And yes, I've read every single story about AM from the victims. No, this isn't victim shaming. I'm sure we've all had these questions.
>>8971547
at this point what can they do? It was a year ago.
I like her because I think she is really dedicated to lolita and I like her coords even tough I mainly wear gothic. Yeah it's her job but so what? I don't know why people keep bringing up Midori but it's obvious Midori doesn't love lolita as much. In fact I'm starting to think she just uses it as a stepping stone to get into more mainstream modelling, which is fine too.
>>8968282
I like that her coords are so basic. Perhaps because it seems more fitted for daily wear. One of the reasons I stopped going to meet-ups is because the girls in my comm are always trying to outdo eachother when it comes to creativity and originality and it just makes lolita look even weirder than it is. She obviously does have her own preferences when it comes to style.
>>8968210
>>8968552
Maybe check her blog or twitter. Pic related was yesterday.
>>8971547
people like John thrive on making their victims doubt themselves. it wasn't enough to go to the police with.
the Leighs have been taken to court numerous times over their fraud, theft, and debt. why does everyone focus on the sex stuff? John is a creep, like a lot of people, and the police IN TEXAS aren't going to give a fuck about this kind of thing if there wasn't any assault/Mexican perps involved.
meanwhile, their record of financial misconduct speaks for itself. they are crooks. they manipulate and exploit people for gain. it makes sense that they do this in the other areas they are accused in--from sexual harrassment to neglecting guests, imposing on people in general--because people as unscrupulous as the Leighs, who set up a false charity for earthquake victims and fucking kept the money, who sucked thousands on thousands of dollars out of an old friend who foolishly believed for years that (as a good friend) they would pay him back, don't suddenly grow a conscience when it comes to interpersonal boundaries with young lolitas.
lolcow trying to channel that cuteness
I can't stop looking through her twitter now
>>8971590
Long faces really look unfortunate when trying to look cute.
Why are these people wearing what looks like jeans
>>8971289
... that is the stupidest excuse I've ever heard. Ok so some cop might be like, "oh man what crazy outfits!"
Boo fucking hoo. Afaik no one even tried to bring it to the attention of law enforcement or even get a legal consultation. (Which can absolutely be free) Also it's not like you have to show up at the station in OTT.
Why would Misako burn this bridge when there has been no legal or civil action taken to lend the allegations legitimacy?
>>8971615
More to the point what the fuck is misako wearing
What's going on here I'm so confused
>>8971575
To the people that say she's in it for the money or whatever - nah, you have to truly love lolita fashion to keep this kinda thing going, nursing pays like crap and the free flights etc she gets for visiting conventions etc are also obviously all connected to lolita and not about accumulating significant personal funds. She's able to sustain herself and do what she loves but she's hardly living it up either.
>>8971289
>wearing lace somehow makes you not a human being and not able to defend yourself from the law
Yeah, I'm going to call bullshit. I have no idea what a bunch of Japanese people in the JLA should do. Instead of them doing something when he's done nothing illegal to them, it should be the victims coming forth and trying to get him. If he gets jailed, naturally he can't be apart of the JLA anymore and everyone wins. Stop passing this all off as Misako ur lolita qweens job. If some creep touches you in lolita, do you think she's going to magically swoop into a lawsuit for your sake? No, act like fucking adults and get your acts together.
>>8971936
This. Stop making up bullshit to fuel the fire. Police will do their jobs, if the victims come forward. But instead, they chose to use social media as their platform.
Based on some e-famous posts, I'm beginning to suspect foul play. Why did it take one somewhat relevant lolita to spark the wave of "John did this to me"? Why was it only other e-famous lolitas that came forward with accusations of harassment and mistreatment? Cadney, Kate, buttcape, choke. All relatively e-famous. All dying to stay relevant in such a cruel hobby. Granted Cadney stepped down as a KA because of all the drama, but she got so much attention for it. Honestly, it's all starting to smell like a bullshit witch hunt. I
People seem to forget that 1. Misako has a manager and likely has to go where ever her manager tells her to go otherwise she is creating issues for this person, and 2. the Leigh's are VERY good at manipulating people to get what they want. If they weren't, we wouldn't be here talking about all of this.
>>8971276
You don't file a police report about someone voiding an international business contract. You have to sue, which costs money and takes time. It was deemed not worth it and written off as a loss.
>>8971969
I only focused on the sexual harrassment bit because other gulls seem to want Misako to shun the Leighs because of that because if she doesn't, she's a rapist loving scumbag sellout.
I don't doubt the victims. I just wish they'd done more than go online.
I'm glad to hear that they are in legal trouble for their business practices and shady dealings.
>>8972144
I never talked about that, but let's do that now. That was shady of them, but voiding an international business contract is hardly grounds for outrage on our part. If Misako's agency is still stupid enough to work with the Leighs after that, then that's on them and nothing for us to get angry over.
>>8968247
>Mana
>fade
Out with you and your lies
>>8971969
We know that they're scummy, but the sexual harassment allegations directly affected the community. And like anon >>8972185 said, this is a misako board. We're trying to address the elephant in the room without derailing. One of the main reasons for misako losing favor was because of the allegations. Personally, I like her. I don't really care if people considered her actions as "turning her back on the community." She's just doing her job, living her dream, whatever. Besides, I don't think she has the mental/language capacity to even begin to understand why she should have done more than just tweet that she's been crying. I suspect she doesn't even handle her own social media accounts. Who's always taking her pictures? And for the love of God, what filter does she use.
>>8971478
>>8970985
Land in Japan is expensive so it's not that surprising.
And I'd move back in with my parents if I could with my current job. Rent eats into my paycheck like no other. My parents don't charge and are actually really chill and respectful of my privacy and space. So it'd be a win-win situation.
>>8970985
Living with your parents is expected/the norm even if you do get married.
This is why love hotels are such a thing, it's so you can get away from the home and your parents to make babies in a less embarrassing place.
>>8970569
FUCK'in Goth
FUCK'in SALE
>>8968261
Midori wears lolita a ton, follow her blog bruh
>>8972347
I follow her but most of the lolita coords she posts are for photoshoots.
>>8972185
>other gulls seem to want Misako to shun the Leighs because of that because if she doesn't, she's a rapist loving scumbag sellout.
dramawhores gonna dramawhore. Buttcape and others documented the Leighs' shady manipulation of the Houston Lolita Comm and the KA/JLA, they documented neglect of guests and all that other shit, and it drives me crazy that people focus just on the sexual harassment, which wasn't even on par with the other forms of exploitation imo. as for what the various victims have done, many of them went quiet for a while (Buttcape even took down her ouji guide and only recently put parts of her blog back online), and if they are taking any legal action they may not be able to talk about it online. we don't know everything they are or aren't doing.
people want to crucify Misako because they are drama-mongers, and Misako is a delicious target to have. they focus on sexual harassment because it arouses the strongest emotions, and on Misako because she's the most famous person involved. it's just base emotion and tabloid-level exploitation of a situation that is way more complicated than us outsiders can fully understand. scapegoating and rape crying is more emotionally satisfying.
>>8972281
>this is a misako board.
*thread, not board
sage for fyi
>>8972331
This. My friend permanently left Japan after having lived abroad for university, because she couldn't stand the idea of moving home and living with her parents as was expected. She had a good job, and would have had good opportunities back in Japan as a result of her time abroad, but she just didn't want to face that situation.
She talked about it quite a lot leading up to graduation, and said she knew her parents' friends thought she was just being selfish, but the loss of independence was too much for her to go back to. She'd gotten used to keeping her own rules and hours, and paying her own bills and so forth.
Her parents weren't even trying to encourage her to get married. She just knew that as an only child, if she went home after uni, that was it. She'd be stuck.
Seriously though, does anyone know what filter Misako uses/how she edits her photos? Or anything similar? They all look so nice and I'm envious.
>>8968157
Um, no
>>8972281
>tweet that she's been crying
What? When exactly was this / what exactly did she tweet?
>>8973744
It was when it all went down, obviously when she heard it from the kawaii ambassadors. She wrote something to the effect that she couldnt stop crying, but you would have to look it up for the exact moon speak.
I always hated Misako, glad everyone is seeing what a sham she is.
>>8973744
It was when all the kawaii ambassadors were stepping down. She said lolita was supposed to make you smile, but that now she couldn't stop crying.
Never really cared about Misako one way or another but it's funny how so many people are using Japanese culture to defend her actions. Minori just up and cut ties cold. Misako actually lost a lot more by staying with them: KAs quitting, John stepping down, bad press for JLA in the west when JLA is trying to have an international reach, AM stealing from brands she's worked with and not paying other guests, etc. That's pretty big for losing face. Usually, when something is that rocky, Japanese companies will just quietly cut ties without since they don't want a fuss. It's actually more against the grain to stick up for John and AM like she's done.
>>8976599
I'm pretty sure Minori's the only one to say so openly, though. Other guests who have been slighted, who were informed (in Japanese) of the situation, ignored it entirely or continued to attend events actively (Reika being one mentioned in a previous AM thread, just as an example; Putumayo being a brand that continues to work with them as another).
But people don't pay much attention to those other guests because their ties to big companies are more tenuous than Misako's. I guess?
TL;DR: Quite a few Japanese guests are still involved with AM in some way, shape or form, but Misako is the most visible and therefore copping the worst of the criticism.
i truly and honest to goodness don't even believe that this person exists
>>8976601
Yeah gotta give Minori props for having the balls to say it. She's always been pretty indie. I think everyone stays with AM for different reasons. Cosplayers don't really know/care about the lolita side of the AM boycott and the amount of debt, lawsuits, bad business practices that it brought to light. I doubt Reika lost much or had an outraged fan base like Misako did. I heard that sometimes AM announces guests before they're confirmed, and those guests feel compelled to go and not disappoint their fans. A lot of them, I'm sure, don't even realize why people are upset at AM or have dismissed it as unfounded rumors. The brands/guests who got fucked over by AM are going to quietly go away, or put up with it for appearances sake. Basically as long as AM can keep some Japanese guests coming back, more guests will keep signing up, which is fucking depressing.
>>8971567
What makes you think Midori wants to be a mainstream model. She probably isn't dedicated to lolita because she has a job at a vocational school, and several other hobbies wearing lolita every day of her life probably isn't realistic or doable.
Some people like her more because she does seem like a real person and not some paragon of lolita virtue
>>8976601
Minori also isn't really popular in Japan. She even said so herself. I also don't think she has an agent because of that. She isn't a model, she's an artist. So I think she has more freedom to do as she pleases because there are less colleagues for her to inconvenience and far less shironuri fans than there are lolitas.
I love her basic style. soft lolita, casual lolita, otome kei or whatever you want to call it.
>>8976984
saw this and felt the same way. whatever it is it's cute af
>>8977009
It seems someone in the thread messed up & put Minori, but everyone else got it right w/ Midori.
>>8968021
What dress is this?
>>8970545
Has she had nose surgery? Her face looks different. Not judging, just wondering
>>8969449
>insulting nurses
>'whiping'
Go fuck yourself.
>>8976984
isn't soft lolita a chinese term for girls who wear fakes?
>>8968210
She's probably a home health nurse PRN, which provides a lot of flexibility in hours as long as you work the minimum required hours per month. She'll probably pick up more hours as the modeling career dies down...
>>8978808
Its how misako calls her casual style
>>8978808
That's soft sister you're thinking of
>>8970545
she looks pretty to me, pic related is from the same 2002 issue
I think she mentioned in the past that she was photographed back when she was only around 16 for street snap pics, which also seems to match up with her Japanese wiki article and model/talent pages which document her debut as being in the year 2000.
She is 33, not 30 like some of the Japanese modelling sites claim, although it's pretty much standard practice for them to shave a few years off.
>>8978766
Supposedly. But then she was announced for the Hawaii AM event, so everyone assumed she didn't give a shit, or was already under contract, despite the airport bullshit her first time through.
>>8978766
I did. Spoke to her about it in Japanese but all I got from her was "Oh that's not good" but I think she didn't care much since she went to Hawaii anyways.
Although since she's been mistreated by cons before, I think she might just take it as part of her job.
