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>>8878853

now with 110% more tripfagging and namefagging
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>>8897154
bear is shit youre shit for liking them you should probably kill yourself
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>>8899129
So thats a no then?
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>>8899129
But anon, he didn't say he liked them. He asked how they were. No need to be so tsundere.
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I want to set a Japan/Asia based group for an upcoming game. Tips on how to do it right and not weebish?
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>>8900143
Are you Asian?

Because if you aren't, you're going to have a very bad time. I'd say it's probably not *impossible* to not look like a weeb... but you're going to look like a weeb.
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>>8900143
I will agree with Larpsocks, but temper it with the idea of playing nonhuman just to avoid much of the weeb aspect.

I was invited to a weeb larp, set in fantasy not!Japan. It got canceled due to weather, but I still have a whole gameplan for it. Seeing as I am a big (both weight and build) hairy guy, I was going to to toss on my Kendo Do (body armour), make a kilt out of tiger print faux fur, get some orc tusk and horn prosthetics and paint myself red, to go as a mountain oni character. I got the idea after seeing this Kappa girl pic, which is another option.

Other options are various beast folk. Nezumi (ratfolk), Tengu (crow folk), fox folk whos name escape me, tenuki.... Or just wear a mask. The Scorpion Clan in Legend of Five Rings ALL wear some form of mask as a cultural tradition. You could also be a Noh or Kabuki based character.
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>>8900143

Fee, fi, fo, fast. Is that the mangey hide of a Barghast?
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>>8900143
put effort in it, research the myths and whatnot. They got a fuckton various shapeshifting monsters and whatnot maybe one of them can be pulled of with relative ease.

or invest heavily in japanese armour
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hey guys, I'm really fucking new to LARPing but there's a meet coming up in two weeks in which I'm going to play an NPC. They said to bring your own feastware for a feast that evening, but what tips do you have on appropriate feastware? They said a dish/bowl, a cup/glass, and at least a spoon. Would you say wooden or metal plates would be more accurate for a loosely-medieval fantasy setting or does it not matter?

Also, do you think there's a chance of finding similar stuff at like a Goodwill/thrift store or a Walmart, or should I just buy a full vintage set like this?
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>>8900833
doesn't really matter as long as it has the right feel to it. Although in my opinion wooden bowls looks better (and messier to clean it)

As for spoons and the like sometimes you can buy little bamboo spoon+fork+knife combos that will look good enough.

For mugs I would prefer some kind of metal one for durability reasons, easier to transport it that way
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>>8900833
For specifically a feast, I'd go with stoneware, but that's just because I find it more feast worthy.
For general use though, I'd probably side with the wood though.
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>>8900290
I'm not. I'm white (as you'd probably guess, I suppose), Is that the 'source' of what's going to make me look like a weeb?

>>8900826
Armour won't be a problem, as we have some decent local armoursmiths who'll do that in a fair price. Can their armour be made of metal? In all the photos, it looks like leather. Also, is that picture from DF? What camp?
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>>8900965
yes it's from DF, but I don't know witch camp, it was taken at the end of the final battle.

And yes 99% of japanese armours made from metal. The trick is that they were painted or lacquered, no leather there. Japanese armour is one of the few examples where you can make a good looking one with relative ease even from plastic because the lacquering at the end gives a slightly similar texture.

Also, whitness isn't the source of the problem. Not putting effort in it and getting your source material from random mainstream animes is the source of the problem most of the time
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>>8900290
>>8899221
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>>8899104

Stop posting fucking ugly people. You're giving LARPs a bad name.
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>>8900866
>>8900954
Thanks a bunch guys, I really appreciate the suggestions.
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>>8900965
Hungarian is generally correct- you need to put a lot more effort in to not seem like a weeb when you're white. I think Gropey's suggestion is great- doing a mythological creature rather than a random asian inspired guy is a great way to handle it.

>>8901438
lol
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>>8901438
stay mad
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>>8901438
Look, can't you just go back to calling me fat? This isn't even trolling. This is just sad.

Honestly anon, there has got to be a reason you're blankly lashing out at strangers on the internet. Even with posturing and standards, we are probably the friendliest and most inclusive thread on 4chan.

Whats eating you? You can talk to us and tell us whats wrong.
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New Medical Meats Finished!
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>>8902052
mmmm. Meaty.
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>>8902080
Finished.

What you think? I use them at my game as a Doctor/Sawbones for Medical RP.
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>>8902084
As good as you've shown before. Love your work bro.
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>>8902106


High Praise from Gropey! :D
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>>8902084
it needs to be more messy, putting some kind of fluid before use would help a lot
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>>8901588
>we are probably the friendliest
which is kind of disgusting. being in an unfriendly environment builds character.
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>>8902831
Vaseline and stage blood.

>>8902838
I know, right?
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Finished my ritual circle rep. It's a 3 foot diameter circle- the perfect size for me to stand or sit in it. We'll see how long it takes for it to get covered in blood.

>>8902831
Ehh I wouldn't want to have to clean my rep and/or get Vaseline and stage blood on my garb.
Aesthetically I agree with you, but I think Ru has done plenty.
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>>8903224
My larp uses a similar 3x3 grid for our magic system... maybe I'll steal some elements of that design if I ever play a ritual caster.
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>>8903489
Make sure you know what you're copying first. The central 3x3 grid is a Lo Shu/river map square. All the patterns and designs are derived from that central element and are pseudo-mathematically relevant (in bullshit magic ways) to the square, to my game's magic system, or to my character specifically (our game just uses a circle to represent a ritual circle- all the other patterns are just for me).

I may just be a weird perfectionist, but especially when it comes to magic stuff I like everything to have a reason and a purpose, even if it never comes up in game.
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Hey, I want to put my arms on my tabard, ( a cairn terrier holding a sword ), but I ain't skilled enough to do it. Is there is some site in the internet where i could send the logo, get it printed, then sew it on my tabard ?
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Would burlap be lore friendly for a post-apocalyptic larp? I want to make a cloak that comes down to the knees out of it for a tribal character.
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Seven weeks into larp, costume so far.
Metal jaw is to cover an injury i got IC from a ballista. Working on getting greaves/ big bulky fur boots for legs, and pouches/ bandoleers for muh monster hunter vibe.
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>>8899104
Hi /cgl/, /tg/ here, im going to my first LARP soon and i just wanted to get a bit of advice form you guys, mainly on costume stuff. first the LARP im going to is Knights Realm in NJ, so if anyone else is going and could give me some advice that would be great. Second i was planning as going for a shmanistic vibe sort of feel with bongos as an instrument, i really wanna do more role playing stuff than actual combat (thats what my older brother is doing). i just wanted to know what you guys would recomend i look for if im going for a shamnistic look like pic related, although instead of a headress ill probably just do a hood.
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>>8904300
that looks fucking great man!
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>>8904322
I think you lost your pic
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>>8904322
>>8904329
dam your right here it is
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>>8904322
first of all, you are in luck because Knights Realm is one of the few decent larps in the US, or so am I told.
Secondly, is there any shamanistic look that you try to go for or just a general one?
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>>8904250
I dont know. it depends on what kind of post-apo setting.

If its a some years later then maybe not.
if its 200 or 300 years later then people would probably have to make new clothing and have time to revert to tribes.

>>8904322
the perfect shaman guide by frenadian:
>Get a big wooden staff from the wood
>start adding weird shit on it.
>find some kind enclosed space for the rituals
>have a small brasero in the enclosed space
>throw stuff into the fire
>pass out because there is no oxygen left
>die from asphyxiation
>but not really
>just wake up with 3 other people covered in blood
>its not your blood
>people from the village scream about his dead chikens
>get crowned shaman of the month

>>8904231
If you do not absolutly want to have if embroided you can try other way to have it. one of them for exemple would be serigraphie, a way to ''print'' it on the fabric.

>>8899104
>>8899157
These suit look gouude

>>8900143
-do not try to look like a noble or a samurai if you do not want to invest time and/or money.
-dont use a katana...no no i know i know but just...chh...ch...listen just dont.
- use a Yari or a naginata to beat everyone who use a katana


>>8900833
a bowl and a spoon is actually all you are supposed to need during a medieval banquet.

Food is prepared so everything can be grabed by hands (or by a little pick for those fancy people) and you would not even need a knife so as long as you have a wooden bowl and a spoon you're alrigth. if you ever want to get a better looking feastware after that its even better.

For the cup, dont bring anything made from glass its asking for an accident.

For cups my personnal favorite is terracotta if transport is not an issue.
if transport is an issue, go with metal.

(By the way what is the name of the game?)
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>>8904359
i was trying to go for either a eastern coast/ iriqous look, or a nordic priest/ shaman look. which ever is easier/comfier.
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>>8904371
sadly, I don't know shit about them, so you have to wait someone else with it.
But if you need bones for it then you can buy those cheaply and after boiling them it's okay to use them.
Also, you can raid the spice cabinet for anything that smells interesting/funny and preferably in a solid form or a powder, keep them in little bags so you will always have some random shit to put on anything with a little bullshit on top
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>>8904383
thanks man, that spice thing sounds like a great idea.
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>>8904360
>>8904250

Dystopia Rising. It's set "multiple generations" after the fall, and the race I'm playing is a natural one, people that reverted to tribes after humanity did a nuclear an hero.

Ideally I'd like to use fur because tribal, but I've heard that's really hard to work with.
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>>8904434
garlic powder is the thing if you want something that smells REALLY strong.
Cinnamon powder if you want to kill people
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>>8904360
Japan dude here. I don't mind investing time and money, so that's alright.

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What if I use both a yari AND a Katana?
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>>8904870
as long as the katana is your sidearm not your main one it's okay
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Kult of Athena has some crazy closeout prices on Greek and Roman helmets if antiquity floats anyone else's boat.
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>>8904979
Although it's none of the good ones, they got rid of some of the nicer ones or are out of stock
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>>8904870
thats a start, but a bow or musket would do you better

>>8905187
They go in and out. Keep an eyeball open. I snagged a damn decent Morion a while back for $40 shipped! Its been waiting to be blackened and have cheek guards added for about two years though....
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>>8905187
Ahhh yes I managed to get a good one right before they stopped selling it.
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>>8905231
And a pic
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>>8905236
Damn and only 40 bucks. I got this one back last year, I think it was 150?
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>>8905241
Brass/bronze will always be way more expensive, but $150 is great for that
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>>8903877
I see. I did pick up on the mathematical elements there, didn't realize they were actually related to your game's magic system though. Nice. And yes, I would definitely keep in mind the in-game relevancy of whatever I do, I just like that asymmetrical design element.
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>>8904439
>Dystopia Rising
I'm so sorry anon.
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Figured this would be the best place to ask this: I have two larp katana type swords, and would like to have scabbards for them.Yet, it seems that is a DIY project, as many of the websites I've visited do not sell scabbards for that type of sword.

How would one go about making it? Materials? Guides?
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>>8905194
Never seen a Musket in a LARP. How do these work?
I'll consider making a bow, although I'm not much of an archer.
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>>8905265
Wh...what do you mean?
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>>8905575
get some leather, fake leather or some kind of textil. sew a sword shaped tube out of it, closed at one end.
You are done

>>8905582
don't listen to gropalope, musket is not a must have and huge majority of larps doesn't even allow firearms.
But those which allows are either
- make believe (point and shout, or throwing a little ball)
- Nerf
- potato gun
- airsoft
- black powder ones shooting blanks

There are a few others as well like crossbows made in the shape of a musket and such but those are even rarer.

>>8905588
some DR chapters are allegedly have shit tier communities
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>>8905590
>some
Pretty sure the word around 4chan is all.
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>>8905590
Do you recommend soft leather, or hard?
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>>8905592
only around those who don't know shit about larps and watch these threads for the drama.
There is only one chapter that allegedly banned NEA and psaudo larpfag, but we don't have any hard evidence on that apart from a few guys saying it (as nobody on the official forums admitted it) And there are the occasional horror stories as from every other game.

But the Florida chapter isn't that bad according to Esh-Esh and Ru

>>8905598
soft leather, it doesn't need to hold it's form when it isn't holding the sword after all, plus larp swords already are thicker than real ones, thick hard leather would make them look even more comical when in the sheat
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Got my new gambeson today, tomorrow i'll get my Arm-shoulder armour, and later i'll get my leg armour + gauntlets, what are the thoughts? (Also need new belt, this one is too modern)
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>>8905656
BTW this is in my sisters room since i dont have a good mirror....
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>>8905656
I like the helmet, where'd you get it?
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>>8905713
It's mytholon.. Quality is mwah, but the design is awesome, 119 euros.. too much for a Larp helmet actually
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>>8905575
Pleather, faux sued (for lining) and two lengths of bass wood craft board from a craft store.

>>8905582
Pic related. Make a bigger, stronger version.

>>8905590
>don't listen to gropalope, musket is not a must have
I meant as a reference to being a samurai. Bows and guns were their main weapons.

>>8905713
>>8905716
It looks like crap to anyone whos familiar with armour. Its a sallet designed by someone who's trying to make a sallet, but couldn't quite get the lines. Avoid Mytholon and Epic Armoury like herpes.

Here are better quality, better designed and cheaper options

http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SNH2221PL16&name=German+Sallet+-+16+Gauge+Steel

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AH3822&name=Gothic+Sallet

http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SNH2282PL16&name=Bellows-Faced+Sallet+-+16+Gauge+Steel

And for litterally a few dollars more

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AB0451&name=Jaw+Bone+Visor+Helmet

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AB0451&name=Jaw+Bone+Visor+Helmet
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>>8905908
suede* damn autocorrect. never works when I need it.
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Yeah this was the first and the last time i buy from mytholon, shit company.. The gambeson is from ulfberht, so thats good quality.
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Im also concidering to buy a hounskull bascinet, also fuck larp armour, im buying re enactment stuff
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>>8905920
>>8905926
Thats why I didnt link larp armour
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>>8905938
Thank you <3
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>>8905908
Matchlock guns were used more by the Ashigaru troops rather than Samurai. They became very popular in Japan in the late to mid Sengoku period because it allowed Daimyos to train armies from their peasants.

>>8904870
I'd prefer a naganata over a yari, but that's because I like the aesthetics more.
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>>8905656
>>8905716
How well do you see through it?
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>>8905973
Very well actually, i think it needs more holes at the breath area, because you can use those holes also to see through, but further,i can see good.
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Might get this later.. what do you guys think?
Or should i get a brigandine

http://www.celticwebmerchant.com/nl/gotisch-borstkuras.html
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>>8905976
I have to agree that it look weird.

Also, a sallet is not really a helm I often see on a incomplete armor. Maybe because without the gorgerin, it's..... defeat the point of the sallet.
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>>8906024
You mean the Bevor/Bevoir? because im using this helmet for now and im buying a new helmet soon
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>>8905966
Point stands. Japs are silly

>>8905979
Depends on shipping cost. If its decent, then its cool.

>>8906024
There are lots of images and documentation of infantry in various Sallets, both with and without bevor.

>>8906052
My only suggestion is even if you're not dressing in a historic manner, try to keep things in a similar time frame for the sake of looking more complete.
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>>8906077
15th century, this helmet was worn from the 14th till end 15th century, then they used great bascinets, everything i buy is 14th-15th century armour, i just made a mistake with the sallet
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>>8906077
+ the company is in my country so no problem
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>>8900833
I've seen wood-like bowls in thrift stores, it really just depends on your luck. The Pier 1 in my area has a dinnerware set in hammered copper, but it might be a bit more than you're looking to spend on a starter set. I picked up my stoneware set between Pier 1, Ross, and Walmart - cost about $5 total!
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>>8906080
>till end 15th century
Find me one material documentation of that. Outside of the poorer areas of eastern Europe, It was phased out of use by the first quarter of the 15thC.

And 15thC great basinet =/= 14thC basinet
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>>8906092
Dude, thrift stores rock, but I live in a historic town with lots of reenactors, so I am totally spoiled.
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>>8906188
speaking of documentations and sources, you are still owe me among other things a source on that messers were wielded by people specifically because legal loophole allowed them on grounds that it wasn't a sword

Otherwise I will just call bullshit on that
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>>8906311
I remember KM on tg mentioning it was rather likely a way of getting around sword cutler monopoly laws by making a useful sword-like weapon that didn't meet the legal definition of a sword. I admit I'm a bit skeptical on the sumptuary law aspect of it. On one hand, your likely illiterate guard isn't probably going to grasp the subtleties of weapon construction, on the other hand, it doesn't seem like sumptuary laws would be very enforceable. I mean, what if that commoner you were arresting for wearing a sword and clothes outside of his social status actually was a nobleman that wasn't local? How could you tell?
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>>8906326
weapon wielding laws were mostly about length, they even put a wooden sword out at the city gate usually to show, this is the biggest one that you are allowed to carry inside the walls.
Outside of the walls nobody cared mostly (and in some cases if you were the head of a family weapon wielding was mandatory by law)


And yes KM and cutleranon both are leaned that it was mostly a guild fuckery so that the cutlers can go into the weapon producing business but even that is only a theory because there is no source on it
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>>8906311
Oh! There was a thread on the AA about the German guilds on that. I'll dig it up when I get home.

>>8906326
two words: red shoes. I am personally under the theory that such laws were used as "tack on" or "catch" laws, much in the same way a cop would use obstruction of view laws on your air freshener.
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>>8905588
I'm shitposting a little bit, DR has a bit of a poor reputation in these threads. It's not entirely undeserved, but as Hungarian said, it was really more individual chapter issues than a problem with the LARP itself.

I'm not a fan of DR myself, because I think the post-apoc genre is over-saturated and I think DR in particular is too rules-heavy. But try it out and see if you enjoy it. If you do, great!
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>>8905582
Bicolline used arquebuses for only one campaing and these baby could cost up to 400-500 Canadian moneydolla' and pretty much operated like a big pump that shoot a foam ball while making a bunch of noise and smoke.

It was hum...how can i say this...a huge...huge failure.

They annonced it like it was the second coming of Maurice Richard (jesus for the rest of america and Early game Hitler for europe).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEFuep2oEU

HOLY SGHIT GUYS THIS LOOK AMAZING! you say to yourself...'xcept that (almost) nobody in this video own one of these useless piece of shit in reality.

A friend of mine is working on a better (and cheaper) version based on the same desing that one of Bico's bigger gun.

Will keep you informed over time.

>>8905656
look good, if i saw you in a larp with this suit as it is i'd say this is way better than many suit i've seen.
If you keep adding stuff over time it can only become better.`


>>8905908
Love that nerf, where can you find this?

>>8905926
pretty sure you are far from quebec and/or Canada but i got one to sell since i decided that a gambeson and a kettle helm was all i needed after all.

its kinda heavy so the postal service will be shit if you are anywhere else than north america

>>8905979
Brigandine, not a leather one , the good kind with metal plates.
but that migth just be my personnal taste talking.

>>8906194
On behalf of our company we would like to offer you to eat shit in the most briefs delays.


Pic related, the helmet i dont want to use after all with a fedora.

''M'lady''
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>>8906475
>Love that nerf, where can you find this?

Its Buzzbee brand, and I can only ever find them at a resturant/store known as Cracker Barrel

>On behalf of our company we would like to offer you to eat shit in the most briefs delays.

Jealous, frog?
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>>8906475
Forgot some pics.

An English made, hand blown, reproduction 1699 rum bottle. Retails for $130 at Colonial Williamsburg...
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>>8906948
... $14.98, and my bro gave me his 50% employee discount.
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when the arm armour you bought is a bit too small
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>>8906475
I live in the netherlands... So pretty far away
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>>8907176
whats the problem with it? Doesn't really seem small from that pic
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Putting together a ton of props for this game- mostly cabin decoration. My character is infatuated with the Dark Elf Empress so I drew a picture of her for him to carry around.

I would have gotten a wooden frame, but the metal ones were what the cheap shit store had in the tiny sizes (it's only 2"x3").

I can't wait for the staff member who plays her to see it. He's a scary looking guy out of makeup but somehow plays an extraordinarily convincing beautiful empress.

>>8905656
Oh hey I remember you. Decided to ditch the black? The white gambeson looks much better. Your helm still looks awkward, though. Have you gotten a surcoat or tabbard yet?

>>8906194
>>8906950
>... $14.98, and my bro gave me his 50% employee discount.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, Gropes. Jimmies = rustled
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>>8899104
I've been kind of upping my kit with seafarer type stuff, what do you think of these?
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>>8907801
You'd be amazed what I find.

>>8907814
I like the Kraken, I hate the random map. Why would someone decorate their kit with random maps?
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>>8907820
It was based on an ingame map actually.
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>>8907825
Point stands. Explain the rational behind taking time to emboss a map onto a piece of protective equipment, who's surface will be damaged, rubbed and worn down through use, and is impossible to use as a map while worn?
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>>8907841
Because it's a fantasy style game where gear never truly gets damaged?
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>>8907842
>Because it's a fantasy style game where gear never truly gets damaged?

What kind of shitty game do you play? Don't ya'll run around in the woods and at least hit eachother with boffers?

But seriously, even fantasy game gear should make sense and look like its something someone would actually used. For a sea fairing type, I suggest trying to make your kit look lived in, like you actually have spent time on a ship.
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>>8907847
Oh yea it's a medium combat game but I've never had any of my leather damaged other than standard wear and tear and I've been doing it for 15 years now. I get your point but I just don't agree with it.
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>>8907853
Thats fine. You have the right to be wrong.
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>>8907853
Im going to agree with clownfag on this. Carving a map into your armor is silly cogfop stuff, and a sailor wearing pristine and unblemished kit is jarring.
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man I can't believe people actually do this for fun, lame as fuck. why is there never any attractive girls either? all the girls in this thread are potatoes. I can't tell if you're just that terribly bored and depressed with life or are autistic.
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>>8907887
I'll agree with you on the weathering as most of my garb has some weathering/damage. Still don't agree about the map thing as it has significance to the game.
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>>8907895
But why on /armour/, where you can't see it, and it would be damaged through regular, real use?
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>>8907895
What is a valid in game reason to have a map on your armor where everyone but you can see it?
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>>8907906
>>8907900
I can actually see it if I hold my wrist up like a watch. Jesus are you people even the slightest bit flexible?
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>>8907917
I can't speak for anon, but as someone who's used a map, no. I am an asshole, and It still makes no sense.
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So, I've somehow found myself on vacation in Florida. I went to a Renaissance festival today. How do any of you people larp in armor when the weather's like seventy-five degrees? How can you even move in temperatures like that?
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>>8908101
Lots of water, and shedding layers.
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>>8908101
Two ways:

1: Wear armour made of proper materials. Linen and summer weight wool are fucking amazing. Avoid nylon and polyester, as they are plastics and don't shed heat. Wear proper underclothes too. I dress in Italian styles, because aside from being the best, southern Italy gets hot as balls and they knew how to dress.

2: Acclimatize. Regular wear in small periods of time allow you to adjust. Motorcyclists, soldiers etc, still all do it. Drink water, and mow the lawn in your Gambeson for a while.
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Who are considered to be top-tier weapon makers? I know Calimacil weapons are treated as awesome, and Sander Propworx's stuff look great. Any others?
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>>8908168
Depends on the game and their restrictions. Calimacil weapons are great, but some US games don't accept them. I've heard good things about Windlass Steelcraft. My current sword is Epic Armory and seems to be doing fine (but my game is lightest touch).

Most of the truly stunning latex weapons I've seen have been custom jobs.
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>>8908168
>>8908256
I'll second the Epic Armoury weaponry. The sword I'm using at the moment is from them, and it's lasted for years. Looks bitchin', too.
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>>8907880
While you are still continue being an ass I'm still waiting on that source you promised and the thought that you are just talking bullshits grows more and more.

>>8908101
>How do any of you people larp in armor when the weather's like seventy-five degrees? How can you even move in temperatures like that?
Like a badass

>>8908168
honestly, depends on your preferences. A lot of people don't like calimacil as it's not as beautiful as other and some would even say that they are too heavy and/or hard.
Some would say Epic Armory as the previous anons but to me they have nothing extra among all the larpshops.
Then again there are the random guys or really small shops which do custom orders and such, some would say that's the awesome shit.

But if I would have to chose from larpshops, apart from calimacil I would say Goldhammer. they sell durable stuff, and most of their weapons are weighted in a way that it simply feels right. Even the daggers, when you hold them in your hand you feel that you HAVE TO stab someone with that
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>>8908452
You're just as much as ass too, Hungarian sempai.

He mentioned its on the armor archive somewhere. Have you looked?
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>>8908523
yes but I'm honest about it.
But no I haven't looked for several reasons. First of all, armor archives is fuckhuge, secondly I wasn't the one who said there is source for it, thirdly other people who know more about this than all of us combined didn't found source for it.
So I'm highly skeptical.
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>>8908452
Peter Johnsson of Albion swords, in his 2004 published dissertation on civilian sword use in the middle ages, sites a local law from the Netherlands; The 1438 book of days of the city of Amsterdam disallows the carrying of swords by freidland republican farmers and merchants, but allowed knives of vocational use for defense- A knife being defined by the Hauptmann elect by its construction being pinned scales and without ending in a peened pommel.

So the law itself was not cutlers vs. smiths, but an attempt to keep the free farmers and merchants for militarizing. Of course, the later peasant revolts happened, so there is that.

Sorry for the wait. Im going back to sleep. People can stop messaging my facebook.
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>>8908549
Huh. Neat.
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>>8908527
>>8908549
If I might add http://archive.is/zewj
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>>8908549
>Netherlands
>free farmers
See, that makes way more sense than the guilds. Disarming the farmers who are not bound as serfs anymore, to try and control them. Good job clown.

>>8908563
I don't speak kraut.
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>>8908584
not OP but just toss it into google translate, it should be understandable
the name of the article is 'the long knife - an almost-forgotten weapon?'
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>>8907729
Very thick gambeson
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>>8908549
can you be a little more specific? Because according to Peter Johnsson he never published a dissertation in 2004
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>>8908633
I messaged a bro on the AA, and thats what I got. I'll ask him.
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>>8908549
>>8908633
I had a talk with Peter earlier today about this, to try to work out which paper it was. As HLF's said, Peter never published any dissertations in 2004.

It may be a dutch research paper that Peter was referring to, but he cant remember any in particular. The only one he can think of from 2004 was Lionel Charluteau & Olivier Dupuis' paper for Association les Guerriers d’Avalon, on messer.
But that doesnt have any quotes from the 1438 book of days of the city of Amsterdam.


I am also somewhat sceptical on the subject myself in that 1438 is very, very early for any such statutes on the messer - its only really risen in popularity in the last 10-20 years at that point. It may in fact be referring to the Mes, the Dutch fighting knife that was extant then. Jerome Barnes' research is the place to look for more on that, though. Been a year or so since I talked to him though.

so in all, that entire reference is making me have nice big flashy warning lights around it.

-cutleranon.
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>>8908746
He also did a series of videos about the Messer on youtube, but I have not seen them yet.
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>>890878
Damn, because I am passing on word for word from someone I trust :/
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>>8908751
This is legit someone with a doctorate and a reputation too. I will be heartbroken if he makes me look like the wrong kind of ass hole
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>>8908600
well... It's time to get the armour stretcher, isn't it?
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>>8908600
You either A: bought off the shelf shelf without trying on, or B: measured without your arming clothes.

Everyone who regularly wears armour does it at least once. Hope it wasn't too expensive.

>>8908767
Pic
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>>8908766
You assumed you could trust anyone clown-san You know what they say of assumptions. You know what you must do to restore honor.
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>>8908766
well, he's wrong from the outset, given Peter didnt publish any dissertations then.

(also, technically, Peter isnt "of albion swords" - He's a consultant who Albion outsource work to, not one of their staff. )

-CA
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>>8908796
Commit Seppuku with a dragon dildo?

Crawl to Canterbury on Pilgrimage to the shrine of Beckett?

Put on lipstick and change your name to Betty?

Pogo to St James of Compostella's shrine, on a 1970's Space Hopper, while playing "the Final Countdown" on a Kazoo?

All of the Above?
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>>8908797
I was about to say - Peter is to Albion as Angus Trim and Christian Fletcher are to Valiant.
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>>8908799
move to croatia, became a successful interior designer, and dozens of years from now look back at all of this and laugh
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>>8908796
..Kidnap the child, raise him as an assassin to slaughter his own bloodline and at him moment of triumph, reveal that the truth before dramatically killing him?

>>8908797
Firstly, just stat namefagging dude and join thr dark side. Secondly, really? I thought he was full on top circle at albion.
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>>8908802
Is that a reference?
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>>8908805
>..Kidnap the child, raise him as an assassin to slaughter his own bloodline and at him moment of triumph, reveal that the truth before dramatically killing him?
I was going to say move on and do research to correct your mistake, but your plan sounds more reasonable.
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>>8908808
a subtle one

>>8908805
cutleranon never namefagged and never will. He has reasons for it and this is the way he rolls. Also even the name cutleranon was given to him by fa/tg/uys who started to recognize his posts
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>>8908767
Guess so..
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>>8908805
>Kidnap the child, raise him as an assassin to slaughter his own bloodline and at him moment of triumph, reveal that the truth before dramatically killing him?

Im not going to say its a BAD plan...
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>>8908452
>Goldhammer

Different anon here. I'd never heard of this guy before, but thanks for mentioning him, I checked out his shop and this stuff looks rad.
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>>8908600
honestly, after you wear the gambeson in, it should fit fine, gambesons give quite a bit.
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>>8904322
KR is a fun time, definitely the only LARP in the north east that I've enjoyed enough to go consistently, regardless of drama. The people that go there from Purchase are great, shame about the one red head tho.
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posting my latest wep, high fantasy bullshit meteor blade for my character.
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>>8904322
Here's a picture of a native, pulled it off of the website of one of those 'new native crap' shops. I know a little about native culture, but you'd want something like this. Combine with some furs and such and you could pull off a not-native well enough and not get shit from people.

Prob won't get too much shit anyway, the SJW crowd usually goes to the DR event thats hosted at the same park. There are white guys at KR running around playing not-nip samurai anyway.
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How old are you guys?
What's the average age in your LARP community?
(Not asking this to mock you guys, just plain curious)
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>>8909586
In the northeast of the US its a pretty good mix. I only ever see a couple under 14, ussually with parents. fair amount of teen, mostly people in their 20's, a lot of 35+
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>>8909586
27
most people here are either around my age or in early 20s
There are a few younger and older ones too.
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>>8909586
Well I'm 18 *cough* in may *cough* although in the group Im joining most are early to late 20s
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>>8909398
Depends on the gambeson and its construction, and lets face it, sometimes too small is just too small.

>>8909445
>shame about the one red head tho.
Explain

>>8909464
...Ok, im just going to say this as a general thing to keep in mind. Please at least choose something cohesive as a single native culture, rather than go a chief gonnascalpya from the wannabe tribe.

>>8909586
Im 26. The larp groups tend to be from 16-30. The historic groups (not counting the huge cross over from family units) generally span 21+.

>>8909644
You are the venerable larpfag.
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>>8906948
I can still find some very nice stuff since i live in a gentrified neighborhood where old rich people die a lot and that mean lots of nice decorative stuff at the thrift shop.

>>8907917
Oh yeah i'm getting a bit older so i've been working on it, my spicy latina neighbor teached me some yoga and i.... oh you mean... no...no not at all.

But seriously i see sailors as people with lot of time to make hobby like this so go ahead and have fun.

>>8908101
'Murikans are badasses , they can survive 75° while a mere 40° can create a heatwave in the rest of the world.

>>8908168
If you can put the money in it you can get a Nemesis.

Its pretty much the sportscar of larp weapons

Here you go how they make a sword.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q1DPtL6iwU

>VIDEOSYSTEMS

>>8908600
>Very thick gambeson
i'm proud of you son.

>>8909586
28
35 (average Bico age excluding the ''tourist'' who only come the friday and childs who come with their parents)
25 ( average Aeon age)
30 (average post-apo age)
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>>8909864
Hey, Alaska's part of the US too.
Not that we're necessarily proud of that...
But we aren't just 'Canada, a bit to the west'.
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>>8907841
>Explain the rational behind taking time to emboss a map onto a piece of protective equipment, who's surface will be damaged, rubbed and worn down through use, and is impossible to use as a map while worn?
On the other hand fancy people have put all kinds of fancy decoration on equipment since antiquity, so apparently there is something to decorating armor.
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>>8909980
I understand where he's coming from though. If its of plot importance, its silly to have exposed like that.
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>>8909804
>Explain
You familiar with Knight Realms? For the better part of like five years or something, this crazy red headed fucker (alright guy from what i gather) brought a ton of uni students to KR, probably brought in a lot of money for them. Any who, he stopped coming suddenly. Quite eerily, no one wants to talk about it.
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>>8909586
26 here. DC area, most of the people at my LARP are in the 20-30 range, with a decent scattering of older teens (nobody under 16) and 30+. One of the older players got her teenage daughter into the game.
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>>8905979
>http://www.celticwebmerchant.com/nl/gotisch-borstkuras.html

Just a heads up, the leather hemming is probably a cheap alternative to actually hemming the metal to remove the sharp edge, so when that wears, you will need to be able to replace it. Ask them if it is, they'll answer honestly.
For 10 euros more, you can get the French cuirrass which has more or less the same aesthetic and metal hemmed edges.

That said, celtic webmerchant as a store is pretty solid and trustworthy, good customer service, fair delivery times. Just a bit up there in price for chainmail and some of the high end plate armour.

For personal taste, I'd go brigandine, though.
Look at this sexy motherfucker. You don't even need chainmail.
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>>8905588
I want to shitpost DR too, but because we had a person fuck up their leg in a 'No RP' zone. Idiot wizards decided to roll zombies through, people got ragey and pissed. Someone fucked their leg, legit because it was dark, and at night. Anon complains, asks for scene freezes and tries to pull friends out so we can drive to the ER.

Staff says, "Integrity of game and RP is primary." Translation, get fucked, we are try-harding.

Also, DR is rules heavy. Soooooo fucking rules heavy. It used to be fun, abstract, and very 'pick up and go.' I'd rather play Risk with History majors or monopoly with Business majors.

Scratch that. I'd rather talk about acting with Bailey Jay and Sasha Grey.
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>>8910104
Needless to say, a bunch of us creatives got out of DR and its now a bunch of try hards and stat whores. And by that, I mean Rain Man Austistic Fagglerocks.

Fuck you, DR. Fuck you in the eyeball.
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>>8909586
34.
The group of close friends that larp are all late 20s to early 30s.
Empire ranges from late teens and early 20s all the way up to people in their late 40s bringing their kids with them.
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>>8910104
>no rp zone
How does that work?
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>>8910280
it's literally a marked zone where people can take a break or go sleep or whatever the fuck
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>>8902065
>>8902068
>>8902072
>>8902080
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>>8909804
>You are the venerable larpfag.
nah, there are way older dudes around here. I'm just the one who has a lot of infamy here, and probably the biggest asshole in the hungarian larpscene according to other

>>8910104
>Also, DR is rules heavy. Soooooo fucking rules heavy
yes but that's true for 99% of all US larps
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>>8910319
There were some assholes who did get to court, but that was long ago. Hungarian LARPfag is quality infamy, and is great to watch in action.
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>>8909864
Bico's average roleplayer age is 35!? Wow. I'm surprised DESU
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>>8910326
you mean the teenagers who pretended to be orcs and killed another teenager? because they weren't really larpers, it was more of a M* thing
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>>8909445
funny you mention purchase, my brother goes to SUNY purchase. Also story on the Red Head? if its drama i wanna be aware so i dont stumble head first into it.
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>>8910490
I mightve run into your brother at some point, no guy I met from purchase I know too well. As far as the red head goes, don't worry about it. Best to go in with no taint.
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>>8910573
you might know him, i know he browses here.
his name is [spoiler]Ian[/spoiler]
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>>8910079
Yeahh might het this visby brigandine
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>>8901588
You are fat.
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>>8911088
Yup. Thank the gods for "dad bod" being in.
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>>8911116
Not the same anon but how do you feel about accelerant larps?
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>>8911159
Accelerant is an awful, garbage system and the single biggest turn-off for me when I'm looking at new larps.

I know you didn't ask me, but that's my two cents.
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>>8911196
Why is it garbage ? I don't mind anon oppinions, just be more detailed.
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>>8911159
What the fuck are accelerant larps?
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>>8911159
Im sure they can be done right, but my general experience with nTeraction system games has been slow, clunky, incredibly immersion breaking, and filled with rules lawyers. I did have fun as an NPC/monster, but only because I didnt have to loudly call numbers and focus on stats and other abstractions.
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>>8911231
Forgot my trip this is me.

>>8911208
"3 damage! 3 damage! FIREBALL FIREBALL! Smite!"
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>>8911204
If we are talking about the system purely and not about the whole larp then it's shit because it's not a system that fits larping. It actively works against the players to immerse themselves.
It's closer to DnD IN REAL LIFE than larping. The whole thing is put together in a false idea of what larping should be about.
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>>8911204
Sure. So, I've mentioned in the thread before that I have three big red flags when I'm looking at larp rules:
>Flurry rule (Not allowed to make more than X number of attacks without pausing)
>Weapon proficiency (If you didn't spend points on learning how to fight with X weapon, your character is physically incapable of picking one up and bashing somebody with it at all)
>Pay2win (Gib real monies and your character gets more build points/IC money)

The last one is system-agnostic, but in practice I see almost every Accelerant larp use it. Really that's more of a problem with American larps and the way it's treated as a business here.

Other than that, Accelerant solidly hits my other two red flags. The flurry rule is one that I can kind of understand in principle--"drum rolling" attacks with little to no force behind them is about as bad as dicksword tap-fighting gets. Accelerant takes the rule too far, using it as a crutch that prevents people who know how to fight from using their IRL skill to its full extent. And as >>8911231
said, it's very immersion breaking to have to remind yourself every couple of seconds that the rules require you to take a step back from this guy you're trying to kill.

Weapon proficiency rules are worse imo, because they have no reason to exist outside of tabletop games. There's no good reason that if I can pick up a sword and win against a monster while only swinging for basic damage, I shouldn't be able to do just that. Plus, when the game also has proficiencies for "Dual Wielding" and "Shield," it incentivizes only fighting one way and trying to shoehorn that style into every situation. If you're a spear fighter and want to carry a shortsword for close combat, every point you put into being able to use that shortsword effectively is a point not going into your spear's damage, so you're better off, mechanically, just trying to use your spear in every situation.
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>>8911307
And that's not getting into the myriad other issues that Gropey hinted at in the aforementioned post, from high numbers being a headache to keep track of (I have 15 hit points, I just got hit by a 2, 4, and 3 in that order, calculate that in the heat of battle, and remember whether you have a parry call left to block one of them), to silly rules about how you can't use language that might offend somebody even if you're playing an asshole character, to how awkward a lot of their calls are ("By my voice, you are stunned for 10 seconds" sound like the kind of psuedo-Shakespearian thing that only people who abuse "thee" and "thou" think is normal).
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>>8911116
Its not in. Your a disgusting slob with diabetes.
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>>8911450
>slob
Now that, I take offense to. I pride myself on my grooming, thankyou.
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Sad face when never any post apocalyptic LARPS.
Mad maxx SCA when?
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>>8911450
Why not post a time stamped picture of yourself then? Otherwise, you're just cancer.
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>>8911468
>Mad maxx SCA when?

We've already been there and done that, but it wasn't a game. Lots of overlap in the self sufficiency mindset, and of course, we're more than half military. After Katrina, we opened up the gulfwars site and set up a refugee shelter complete with armed security, medical facilities, etc etc. Generators where needed, enough soap, hot water and latrines to keep people clean and healthy. It was awesome.

Armoured, armed (like, modern guns) people with a prearranged governmental system, hobbies focused on self produced craft/agriculture etc, military backgrounds... There is a reason the US government considers the SCA the second largest standing army on US soil. There are several books about the SCA being a major faction after an apocalyptic collapse.
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>>8911487
I grew up in a very small town ghetto rigging carpet and tire armor for sca. Had to cover it up with bed sheet tabards for events/wars. It was like being the bad new bears with swords.

I just want to not hide fighting with garbage and go shooting on the same camp out. Not have to use an accent or wear tights and bump some better tunes than lute/recorder.

The ultimate dream is go ultra low budget road warrior with bikes and wagons "turbo kid" style.

Figured LARP general is a good place to dream.
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>>8911527
>I grew up in a very small town ghetto rigging carpet and tire armor for sca.

...in the early 80's?

>I just want to not hide fighting with garbage and go shooting on the same camp out.

I bring my muskets and handgonne all the time.

>use an accent
I have NEVER heard anyone in the SCA outside of a joke or historic poem reading or the like EVER use an accent.

> wear tights
Don't wear tights. There are plenty of options to wear different kinds of pants, or no pants at all.

>bump some better tunes than lute/recorder.
Your group sounds like shit.

What god forsaken hell hole are you from? I honestly don't think you're being serious.
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>>8911536
Grew up in the "mighty army of raven shore" mars for short. Ass end of the n. california coast. We had two knights and three DnD geeks at our peak a mighty army indeed. Late eighties early nineties, culture was more like the seventies.

You take what you can get, small town LARPing with hicks, dont even remind me of the sad attempts at whitewolf games.
Do things when you are young and stupid and have that as an alibi.
Dont care what you say but why so challenging? Not trying to trigger no one. I'm just dreaming of fun ways to kill time buddy.
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>>8911564
>>8911564
Im just a little challenging, because that all sounds like second-hand stuff I hear all the time from people who've never been with the SCA. California tends to be second only to the east coast kingdoms.

I mean, the shitty hammer and the neon green garden hose shield edging would never pass here in Atlantia, but they don't look like THAT much of an abortion as you discribed. And carpet armour isnt legal anymore.
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>>8911564
Hey anon. Im actually from the barony that sponsors that shire. When was your time with them? It does sound very odd and out of character for Ravenshore.
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>>8911597
It covers a wide swath. Ft. Bragg Ca. is a very small ugly step bastard of the region at least it was in the early 90s. Good people, bad times. Good times, bad place? The slogan for the highschool was "welcome to the sticks!"FFS.

I'll admit I have had a retarded cringe worthy upbringing in this subject and might come off more bitter than I want but I refuse to accept the hobby cant be cool.
Best times I ever had was doing live action nerf "Paranoia" which convinced me its not all rattan and muh lord or dick swords and flour bags.
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>>8911619
I don't want to say you "lucked" out with what you found, but you "won" shitty renfair bingo with that group.
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>>8911636
Well my experience with "Santa Clara by night" in San Diego was sad too. Dude says "I'm gonna kill you what do you do?" So I jumped off the balcony and ran down the alley just to hear "thats against the rules!" so to be a sport I went back and spent ten minutes letting some neck beard pretend to torture me to death.

Then after moving to seattle in my twenties I played "Games of adventure" in ravenna park, boffers and flour bags. Lotta heart, little budget. Heard some cool stories about how cool the games used to be. Kids could sword fight for real, lot of bad accents.
Always wanted to set up a three man team in a modified Chinese dragon costume to terrorize the park. Built a giant costume for a play once with a frame back pack to hold up the body and poles working the arms. A three man team, one for the body one on each arm with polearms acting like giant daggers would be a blast too. Maybe I was raised with too much Henson fantasy.
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>>8911708
There's no such thing as too much Henson fantasy.
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>>8911468
Come to OLDTOWN, buddy.
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Also, figured that'd be a great place to ask the following 2 questions.

So I'm playing an ex-knight/paladin character, and:
1) What would be a suitable outfit for everyday business and walking around? (Not battle armour/formal event stuff)

2) Would it be to bulky to wear a gambeson, a chainmail and a tabard?
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>>8911773
1) Depends on culture, setting and tech level. Wear everyday clothing of your characters culture.

2)Not if you get used to it.
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>>8911778
1) Got any sources I can use to look for what everyday clothes did they use?

2) I meant look-wise. I can deal with the feeling/weight.
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>>8911717
Henson wanted to make inflatable dance clubs to foster a nomadic club scene just never got it off the ground.
I dream of converted vehicles/trailers into Howels moving castle like parade float sets to act as roving bases/live action playsets.
Squirtgun "plasma throwers" with colored water. Nerf "less than lethal" stun rounds, airsoft standard shot with paintball as "anti material", silicon boffers, local wifi messenger for status effects like poison, disease, some magics like possession and lasertag "EMP" to shutdown cyborgs/robots/sentries.
I dream of game consumables like bandages, drugs, and exp to be handled with barcodes printed on cards and stickers to be scanned by a character sheet app.
I dream.
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>>8911806
>Got any sources
I'll need to know your game setting, fluff, race, culture and tech level.

For example, Warhammer is roughly 16thC Europe in tech level for humans with the Tileans being Italian expies, the Empire being Germanic, the Kislevite being Russian, etc. Bretonians would be a noted exception, as Arthurian french knights at an early 14thC tech level which would be a noted difference, etc etc.

>I meant look-wise.
Is that acceptable in your game's setting/culture?
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>>8911812
It's a high-fantasy game. Since most of my comm isn't too big on historical accuracy, I guess anywhere between 11th to 15th would do. Despite my will to know the subject better, I'm shit at history so I don't really know which period should I focus on and learn about.
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>>8911826
>high-fantasy game
Cop out excuse. There has to be SOME fashion basics at least from the community of what others wear.

>anywhere between 11th to 15th would do
...400 years?

You're not making this easy. Shirt+Tunic over pajama pants. I don't want to steer you to anything specific because I don't know what would fit your game.

Go to linengarb.com
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>>8911832
>There has to be SOME fashion basics at least from the community of what others wear.
Gropalope, tell me, how many larps have you been on so far? Because, especially in the US, but even other places, that's not the norm
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>>8911838
Several. The local game culture itself tends to develop its own popular fashions.

Right now, my local dicksword group is favouring poofy knee breeches and tall socks. A few months ago, it was slim trousers with leg wraps.
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>>8911842
I hope as fuck that they at least have tshirts not just jumping around in breeches and socks, half naked on the field.
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>>8911849
>just jumping around in breeches and socks, half naked on the field.

No, thank god. Someone local has been selling or making cheap blousy white renfest shirts with elastic cuffs and breeches with tie waists and elastic knees. From a few feet, it looks fairly like underdressed 16th/17thC, and has even confused people thinking they were from the early 17thC living museum.

I am honestly really happy to see them improving their look. Now if they put more work into their boffers...
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>>8911838
>>8911842
>>8911857
People dress like the popular kids. Its universal

How did the Gropalope thing start?
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>>8911773
let just see some random civilian clothing or close by stuff. I mean if your character doesn't have any restriction on what he can wear then the class doesn't really matter
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>>8911863
When I was still performing full time, still did /cgl/ clown threads etc, I would be offline for weeks at a go. This lead to someone writing up this whole thing about the "elusive and rare gropalope" like i was some endangered animal.
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>>8911857
Thats pretty fucking awesome. Im assuming various colored socks and pants?
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>>8911896
>tfw I did clownface for some contest Gropey did back in the day
Ah, memories. I think I made a pretty cute clown.
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>>8911891
>et just see some random civilian clothing or close by stuff.

That WOULD be the reasonable thing to do...

>>8911910
Oh snap. Which one were you?
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>>8911891
>>8911902

Alright, thanks!
What are those stretchy pants called? What material are they made of?
And how did you get your knowledge of history?
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>>8911905
Yup! There may have been a sale on red cotton though, as there is a lot of red pants going around.
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>>8911917
hose/joined hose
made out of wool
I read lot a lot of stuff, some of them bullshit, some of them weren't. Also talked with a lot of people who actually know their stuff
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>>8911917
Those are hose, and are actually not pants at all, but essentially long socks tied with points to the doublet or pourpoint. Typically made of wool cut on a bias, so it is stretchy.

Also, we do a lot of reading.
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>>8911912
I had sorta swirly blonde hair, a tear under one eye and a sort of curly design under the other, a black gradient nose and part black, part white lips. There was a piece of fabric with monkey faces in the background of one of the pictures of my collage and I did my timestamp on an envelope because I'm a lazy shit.
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>>8911920
What would be a good source to start reading, then?
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>>8911955
reading about what? history in general?
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>>8911926
This reminds me.

Yoga clothing makes really good generic costume on a budget, and tends to be be comfy.

http://www.harempants.com/collections/soft-cotton-yoga-shirts/products/mens-yoga-shirts-collar-v-neck-white

http://www.harempants.com/collections/mens/products/solid-color-drawstring-men-yoga-massage-pants-in-brown

The rest of the fancy stuff.
http://www.harempants.com/collections/mens

>>8911939
I think I remember. I'd have to dig through my comp.

>>8911955
You gotta narrow that down, son.
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>>8911973
>http://www.harempants.com/collections/soft-cotton-yoga-shirts/products/mens-yoga-shirts-collar-v-neck-white

>$20 100% Cotton

Fucking score! Thanks based clown! Found some good camp pants too!
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Are there any terrible larp videos on YouTube that I can go and cringe at? Anything I can use as motivation to not look like
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>>8911993
Not perfect, but leagues better than what some people wear.

>>8912168
How can you not find them?
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>>8910435

Where and when was this?
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>>8911807

That's a pretty awesome dream to be honest bro.

I'm dreaming about building a fantasy dwarf port town in about 5 years, hopefully be able to buy the land then and then spend the rest of my life figuring out how to put it all together. It'll be probably just my family and close friends using it because fuck strangers.

If you ever hear about a guy in New Zealand who built his own fantasy dwarf town, you'll know it was me!
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>>8912229
Most of what I've seen are mainly "combat" with music. I'm talking about the kind with bad acting and weird accents and yeah man
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