Old Thread >>8809163
>>8824266
I'm really starting to dig this girl.
>>8824267
This is cute, but I have two nitpicks. The headdress is just slightly too vivid for such a muted jsk. Additionally, I think gold necklace and some golden bracelets would help tie the coordinate together. But she's still very cute.
>>8824269
Cute except for those fucking shooped eyes.
>>8824360
this is why it's important to figure out what sort of makeup flatters your face best for lolita folks
>>8824360
Is this the same chick that horribly tried to dye a meta jsk?
>>8824259
Thanks for the new thread anon.
This picture is so unflattering I don't know why she chose it.
The pose and expression don't do her any favors.
>>8824380
Thanks for the nightmares
>>8824444
She/he looks so smug
>>8824448
She looks so beautiful and elegant! Only nitpick would be the bag really.
>>8824451
Would look way better without the underskirt or if she at least got a petticoat long enough so that it doesn't hang limp like that
>>8824444
Is that lace part of the bodice or did she add several inches of lace to the bolero to make it look like it fits?
This'll haunt my dream FOREVER
>>8824388
that's a guy btw
>>8824360
kawaii desu
>>8824451
She reminds me of some sort of futuristic sci fi nurse. Not in a bad way.
>>8824589
No its not.
>>8824872
I'm so confused.
>>8824360
>>8824380
i tried to make them beautiful
>>8824958
Oh shit. Now she's look like Belarus.
Is that a paper crown? Jughead rori?
>>8825587
I was thinking the same thing when I saw it on cof kek
>>8824575
I have that JSK, the lace going across is part of the bodice.
>>8824958
Still needs eyebrows.
>>8825587
She ate too many burgers. Also, why does she have ribbon wrapped around her ankle?
>>8825704
>>8825705
I like some of the colours in this, but would prefer maybe a beret and a flower clip over a crown.
>>8825587
Jfc, my eyes. Cut some bangs into that wig, or better yet just get a new one
>>8825587
Why is her jsk handmade but still doesn't fit her boobs?
>>8825709
I know why the bolero is so short but it's making her waist look like a rectangle. Maybe it's just the pose but it doesn't look good...
>>8825587
what's with the ribbon tied around her leg?
>>8825705
I want to love this but something in it doesn't feel right. I can't put my finger on it, but the balance just feels off
>>8825714
Definitely the bolero
>>8825768
It's the shoes they need to be white
>>8824583
She needs to stop asap
>>8824589
Nope. 100% just an ugly woman.
>>8825704
Ugh, I love this. She looks so historical.
>>8825705
All I see...
>>8825709
I love the colors she used for this coord. Its a different take than what I would have done.
In regard to the bolero... am I seeing things? It looks like a shirt tied up in a knot under her bust...
>>8826447
Kek
Cute enough coord but what the hell is that pose? Also
>still shooping her face to hell and back
>gold bag with silver shoes
>>8827159
I think the bag is silver but the lighting makes it look gold.
>>8825587
we found the burger queen
>>8827177
burger anon wasn't that fat
>>8827159
When I look at this all I see is crazy eye shop...
>>8827159
Yeah she needs to calm the fuck down with that photo editing, her face looks awful and plastic
>>8824448
>the arm growing out of her shoulder
>>8827248
Where do your arms grow out of?
>>8824583
This is actually really cute minus the make up. If she just invested in better make up products she wouldn't be bad at all.
>>8827263
they stopped growing a while ago
mutation ain't kawaii
>>8825705
the material of the cape seems off for sailor but otherwise cute
>>8824266
What dress is this?
>>8827301
AatP's lucky pack JSK from this year.
>>8827305
Thanks!
>>8825800
That hat is ugly and the dress looks too small
>>8827159
glitter silver shoes
why why why
>>8825587
>>8825704
Wild guess on the ribbon and crown? Anime. I know I've seen characters like Chii wear ribbons on their ankles and tiny crowns, but can't find an image doing both at the same time (and it's always white-red-gold like in that photo).
>>8827159
Can someone point out the shoop? I feel stupid but it looks fine to me.
>>8827373
For me, it's the eyes and her freakishly smooth/even skin. Compare the full body shot and face shot. She might have done some simple shaping, too, but I'm not positive.
I generally dislike when people go heavy on phone beautifying apps, especially when they try to claim that the photos are natural or "slightly" touched up, which this girl did in a previous thread.
>>8827159
I don't see the big deal about the shooping, most Japanese lolitas do this and are usually more extreme. Maybe she is just insecure, maybe she has a few wrinkles she wants to hide.
>>8827357
what's wrong with glitter silver shoes? weren't these shoes popular?
>>8827415
I don't think everyone cares so much about the shooping as her shitty reaction to complaints on /cgl/. She got so buttmad and yet she's still editing her face the same way.
>>8827422
She hasn't posted since that first thread though.
>>8827393
Call me a white knight, but I think she might just have really good skin/is good at makeup. This pic of her was posted on FB by the photographer. I think in her selfie she just uses a lot of filters/edits her eyes, bc her skin honestly looks good in all of her pics
>>8827503
She has no eye bags, I'm jealous.
>>8827513
You can see she has tear troughs, though, but is either good enough with makeup to really hide them, or it`s photo shop.
>>8827159
I thought this was jillian at first, with that special snowflake tumblr hair
>>8827553
What are tear troughts? How are they different from eye bags?
I understand none of this
>>8827159
This girl is cute enough but I get kind of irritated seeing her because of how annoying and self-posty she was before.
Seems like she's toned it down, though, so that's cool.
>>8827611
I think she didn't understand chan culture, but it seems like she got the message.
She's pretty though, even without shoop. There are lots of candids on her IG and facebook.
>>8827610
anything short of plasticine is a sin in the eyes of the beauty industry
>>8827610
Hollowness of the eye area, comes from aging most of the time. Though I have seen kids with them, it is lack of fat in the eye area.
There's a time and place to use underskirts.
It looks so bad when you shove it under a regular jsk and you're not even tall enough to need it.
>>8827692
Okay that's, something. I really don't think underskirts look good past the 5 inch mark, this is just ridiculous.
>>8827692
I fucking hate underskirts. They never look good unless the JSK is all a solid color that matches the underskirt, then it just looks like a longer JSK.
>>8827640
I'm 20 and have had this since I was born basically and it's really fucking annoying. Even if I have makeup on over it for the discoloration, because they're still physically there I basically still look like I have eyebags. I know you can get fillers and shit but those aren't perfect. Bleh.
>>8827743
I'm 22 and I've got them too. No matter how much makeup or brightening cream I use, I still look tired.
>>8827503
Agree. She also has some pretty fair skin - going right up the light like that coupled with makeup it might have some unintended affects of taking away all the shadows on her face. To me it's just that her skin looks very one dimensional in the selfies she uploads with her outfits and I think it's part makeup part skintone part lighting
>>8827744
Yup I've tried creams too. Brightening makeup helps sometimes but yeah the worst part of it is that it's physical rather than simply discoloration. I've been trying to use salmon concealer and such under regular conceale and foundation but even then it's not much help though I am also wondering if I just need to experiment with different colors but yeah. I wear glasses a lot and part of it is I think it hides the bags on my face so I don't look as odd.
>>8827746
https://www.instagram.com/p/BAQKyQzE4Z0/?taken-by=maximumclaire
Bitch is really fucking pretty. I don't know why she does this creepy shoop. Why doesn't anybody tell her it looks bad?
>>8827757
a lot of seagulls told her when she selfposted. she must just like the plastic look.
>>8827759
yeah I remember she got called out in a cof thread the first time she posted to there and so she posted a pic without the weird shoop and she got tons of comments about how pretty she was and that she looked better without it but then literally right after that she posted to cof again with more shoop.
>>8827763
Some people are just into that look I guess?
>>8824269
She looks like Dakota
>>8824583
Why would anyone think that paint is OK? Girl needs to invest in some better bodypaint
>>8827503
Compare this to the other picture
>what are pores
>what is texture
The other pic is blended to hell
Incoming dump
>>8828372
Not a fan of the editing on this.
>>8828373
>>8828373
I'm not a fan of the normie cardigan ruining the coord.
>>8828376
Something about this co-ord bothers me but I'm not sure why, maybe the shoes?
>>8828380
>>8828380
The black tights seem out of place. White tights with black shoes would haven been better.
>>8828380
Either the shoes or the tights would need to not be black, I think.
>>8828383
>>8828386
>>8827692
That underskirt makes the entire dress look so big, she looks like a child or tiny-headed midget in a normal-sized dress.
>>8828380
>Dat waist bow.
>>8828390
Imo, she'd look cuter with a bow or beret rather than a bonnet.
>>8828386
Probably an unpopular opinion but I really love the white shoes x white tights combo.
>>8828405
I think it can work depending on the co-ors, especially in old school stuff.
>>8828408
>co-ors
Lurk for at least 10 seconds before you post, jfc
>>8828433
>getting this salty over someone making an obvious typo
>>8828433
Lol, calm down I'm on a tablet.
>>8828433
If it's a casual outfit it's a coors lite.
>>8828493
My phone tried to put a hyphen in it for a long time...
>>8827159
I'm not seeing the shop either. To me it looks like she took the selfie right under a light.
I do this all the time so my skin looks perfect.
>>8828493
people who get so butthurt about a hyphen should be shot
With a busy print like this there is really no need for all the accessories.
>>8828528
It's clearly supposed to be a witch. Personally not a fan of the dress in general but I dig how it's presented here. All the stuff reminds me of Howl's house, or like professor trelawney's classroom.
>>8828533
No one's arguing that it's not a witch coord, it's just way too busy and looks bad with all the accessories.
>>8828597
And to repeat what the other person said, they were obviously going for a very busy "quirky" look, the reference to howls room sounds about right. It's fine if you don't like the accessories and you personally wouldn't do that, but stop trying to make your opinion sound like fact. I like the cooky witch look this coordinate has going on, there's no colors in the accessories that are displeasing to the eyes.
>>8827640
I've always had them. At 28 my skin is great and wrinkle free, but these things have always aged me and made me look tired.
>>8828528
I love it. She's like a young, hip Prof Trelawney.
>>8828528
I've been looking for that print forever, had anyone seen it for sale lately, and if so, where
>>8827338
Does she have a tumblr?
>>8828744
I'm sorry but >>8828383
Looks plenty lolita for me. The skirt shape/length/fullness is fine. The head dress and blouse definitely work in lolita, and so do the shoes. I'm not sure why you wouldn't consider it lolita? It has enough elements of the fashion... I'm not sure how her previous outfits looked, but this one is def. lolita enough to post to closet of frills.
>>8828824
And for fucks sake she's wearing a jsk and a rectangle headdress, I don't get your logic man
>>8828528
Ik she's supposed to be a witch but she looks like an old bag lady. Also, it's not halloween, don't wear a costume.
>>8828376
My pet peeve is when they tie the ribbons in front at the chin instead of behind the neck.
It looks like a ribbon beard, so ugly!
>>8828893
fight me irl m8
>>8828831
Not OP, but my issue with the cardigan is the length of it. Not lolita-appropriate at all.
>>8828373
I think this is a good coord but the posing with the face in the first picture and the third makes her look frumpy. Also I think if the petticoat was bit bigger, it will help balance out the shape of the skirt and cardigan.
>>8828831
My issue is wearing fifty random colored accessories instead of picking out one color in the print to use for accessories
>>8828373
That dress looks really hard to coord. So many oddball colors.
>>8828921
Idk, I've seen cute outfits with longer cardigans. I wouldn't say a cardigan a bit longer than the super,short ones brands make is instantly ~not lolita appropriate~ (which honestly doesn't mean much because there are plenty of things not considered traditionally "lolita appropriate" that can be worn in lolita in a cute way)
>>8828528
>pleats op
Oh god my dream dress. Digging this though, clusterfuck or not
>>8828373
Am I the only one who thinks this is getting nitpicked because it's a white girl with a facial piercing, unkawaii glasses, and edgy railroad picture?
>>8828998
No, it's getting nitpicked because it looks friggin odd. Somewhere between the flat, awkward hair, the awkward photo, and the outfit itself irks a lot of people. Not to mention that dress has some of the weirdest coloring in the history of AP
>>8828832
bitch it's called an aesthetic
>>8828989
It's not about being longer than the ones brands make, it's about being so long it drapes awkwardly over the skirt bit and looks half-assed. If it was to the natural waist it would be fine, but it's not.
>>8828998
You're an idiot. No one has mentioned even one of those things in their criticism. Do you know her or something?
>>8829045
The one you pointed out works with the coordinate. For the other girl, it does not. It's all about balance.
>>8828893
The pet peeve being you don't like the way in which it is intended to be worth, gotcha.
>>8828372
Those socks, for god sake.
>>8829071
Not seeing a problem here, yes they're overused but so fucking what, it's only cgl who could ever find something so minuscule to lose their shit over.
>>8829095
I think they're ugly in general, but they don't ruin the coord for me.
>>8828910
You're on, ribbon beard.
>>8829069
It can be done either way but it looks weird at the front, especially if the ribbons are too long.
Bonnets are ok tied in front though, since it's difficult to balance them otherwise.
>>8828820
It's http://hellquinn.tumblr.com/
This girl is so cute
>>8828528
I get what everyone is saying about the quirky vibe but this is just too cluttered- it comes off as sloppy to me.
>>8829243
How can one girl be so perfect?
>Also she does that dead-ass gaze that Mana has lmao
>>8829243
She's always so perfect but the ribbon from her ribbon beard flopped on her shoulder is messing with the perfectionist in me. That aside, yeah, she's beautiful.
>>8829272
"ribbon beard" is my new favorite term
>>8829243
>>8829264
>>8829272
the only thing I like about this is her hair, wh-what am I missing?
>>8829303
A love of casual old school perhaps?
>>8829303
Agreed. It's a nice coord but a bit boring, and she's cute but definitely shopped in the face.
>>8829324
it's not even good casual old school though... she would look way better with white tights and less ugly shoes.
>>8829324
It's funny that you guys consider this "casual old school" because in 2006-2008 she probably would have been called ita. Like this is what every newbie ita wore back then.
>>8829355
>in 2006-2008 she probably would have been called ita
Were you even around then? Because no. The hair would have been unusual but egl loved poofy hair like this
>>8829355
Nah the itas back then wore horrible lace monsters. Try again.
Although I think the coord might be nicer with white tights and round toe Mary Janes.
>>8829243
This looks really cheap.
Maybe I'm too used to seeing coords which clearly are made of money, but imo, this girl is only a nitpick or so away from being classified as old school ita. I fail to see what's praiseworthy about it while it isn't necessarily bad. It's just average, and not necessarily a difficult coordinate since it's all black.
Has anyone, besides lacemonsters, ever truly fucked up an all-black coord?
THIS IS NOT OK.
Tumblr whores with daddy issues need to get the fuck out of my lolita, trying to look sexy just reinforces the misconception that we are a bunch of degenerate fetishists
>>8829484
>a little bit of zettai ryouiki is trying to look sexy
go back to the middle east, thx
>>8829484
..the garters are what pushes this over the line? I don't understand your angle here anon.
>>8829493
at least they match. kek
>>8829484
Other then the graders showing and the cut is a little too short on her it's fine. You sound jelly anon.
>>8829484
AyPee sold bloomers with garters. I think they are cute?
Just because the other kind of lolitas ruined it for us doesn't mean we need to stop wearing it. If so then we all need to stop wearing sweet lolita because of sissies and age play blah blah.
>>8829484
>trying to look sexy
which convent where you born and raised in anon
>>8829484
I don't see anything wrong here.
>>8829484
I can't tell if you're retarded or if this is b8
>>8829484
I'm more concerned with how this bitch manages to keep getting into Disney dressed like this, especially since they've tightened their "Costume" policy. I've been given shit for Disneybounding in normalfag clothes before.
>>8829507
>AyPee
wow....
Less bitchin, more postin.
>>8829484
People just tryin to keep their socks up, fucking cool it
>>8829536
>>8829539
>>8829540
>>8829525
AngryPeenus
>>8829545
>>8829546
She looks so happy!
>>8829561
Dropped my picture...
>>8829506
Wtf would I be "jelly" of, I don't wear anything but gothic. I think it is way more elegant than the other styles. I think this looks trashy and was hoping you gulls had more sense than you apparently do. People who ~just don't know how to keep socks up~ are just special snowflakes who need to do more research. And being brand doesn't make things lolita, we've been over this before
>>8829568
Wow so edgy~*
The garters look fine and she said she needed them to keep the socks up.
Better wash the salt out of your cunt.
>>8829563
Back on topic, I like this girl's coord but that angle in terrifying.
>>8829572
>Implying sock tape and tights don't exist
I honestly thought everyone used that tape, it holds up really well
>>8829579
why is your vag so sandy about garters please calm down, I assure you this is not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be and you honestly look more retarded than the girl at this point from the spergfest you're having
>>8829484
Just so you know, AP made bloomers with garters.
>>8829579
If you live in a tropical country like I do, tape and glue ain't gonna hold shit up.
But I don't really get bothered by my socks rolling down so I don't use garters either.
It could be helpful for some, calm the fuck down.
>>8829493
AP and Maxicimam have released socks with garters too, srsly
>>8829484
I wear garters with my tall OTK/thigh highs all the time. Granted, not where you can see them because I'm using them for a practical purpose and not for the aesthetic. Even if I was, it's hella cute. You sound like people who used to bitch about peeking bloomers being 'too sexy'.
The eyebrows ruined it.
>>8829599
You are still buy them too. Kinda expensive for bloomers and there is a cheaper knock off on taobao but it is there.
Aatp put out garters recently too.
>>8829599
They're not real garters though
>>8829719
And the ballet flats
>>8829243
That's a dude
>>8829536
Her petticoat looks too big for the skirt, it looks a tad overstuffed.
Otherwise this is an A+ coord for me.
>>8829719
Just the eyebrows? Not the shitty flats and the tacky plano glasses?
>>8829756
Seems like everyone says that about cupcake shaped pettis.
>>8829568
I'm not sure if you're a bad troll or just someone who eats stupid for breakfast.
>>8829763
Notice how the poof goes out to the max at the border then drops there, giving a lampshade effect. That is when you know the petti is too full/short for the skirt.
>>8829784
Dumping some coords
>>8829786
>>8829788
Less salt more coord discussion and concrit prz
>>8829789
>>8829791
>>8829785
I'll say it again, pretty much every full cupcake petti does this anon. It's just a preference. Kind of like overteased wigs.
>>8829794
Uh, no it doesn't? If your "full" petticoats under skirts that are TOO SMALL for them will do it. Not all dresses are supposed to be able to fit a monstrously poofy petticoat, and overstuffed skirts are not a preference thing.
Pic related: Obviously poofy petticoat under a dress that can actually handle it.
>>8828380
I think that it'd be better balanced with white tights. Those shoes seem fine to me.
>>8829810
So by "handle it" you mean you just prefer the dress to have bigger folds? Because that's quite literally the only difference insofar as shape and volume concerned here.
Sorry anon, I disagree that it looks bad.
>>8829825
No shit, that is what overstuffing implies. That is what happens when the skirt portion is doesnt have enough fabric (what you call "folds") for the petticoat.
>>8829825
different anon, I agree >>8829536 is over stuffed. There are no folds in the fabric. Look at the bottom of the print and the hem. The dress is stuffed to the max and it's affecting the shape of the dress. It looks like a bubble!
I've had other AP dresses that could handle more poof but I imagine this must have looked ridiculous while she was moving around...
>>8829840
How new are you if you think that overstuffing is just a matter of preference?
>>8829841
I wish this meme of calling any anon who disagrees with you a newfag would decease. Knock it off bitch.
>>8829536
Diff anon but a lot of people aren't considering the angle of this photo either.
Clearly the camera is below waist level, and it would distort the appearance of the skirt. I really like "bubble" shapes in lolita.
>>8829850
It isnt about the angles. In this photos the skirt is full but there isnt a point of dropping off or hanging. The fullest part is the end of the skirt. Vs in the CC outfit the fullest part is a few inches too high, which you can compare to even just the stock photos of the op in how it looks different. Angles wont change that.
>>8829850
Wow shes so hot! I love thigh high socks. Very sexy!
>>8829850
The reason I mentioned it was overstuffed in the first place is because it looks stiff (your photo the dress isn't stretched totally taut) and turns back in on itself at the bottom, meaning the petti is too full and too short. Yours doesn't do this, either.
I didn't think this would turn into some huge argument, just wanted to point out that it was a bit overstuffed and that was the only thing I'd really change.
>>8829857
All CC girl would have to do is tug her petticoat down a bit more. I don't see why you're knocking it so hard. It's really not that awful, anon.
>>8829863
>I didn't think this would turn into some huge argument
So don't make it an argument?
All I said was that I thought it didn't look bad and you and the other anon pounced on me because you insist I'm wrong for just liking how it looks? Stop it.
Tbh this is why I avoid wearing cupcake petticoats. There's always anons who claims it's too poofy or overstuffed. I think everyone should just wear a-lines to avoid stepping on peoples' toes.
>>8829866
That wasn't me, anon, and frankly, I don't know why you're getting so defensive.
>>8829872
It's not that I'm defensive. Have you not ever been annoyed at people insisting your personal taste is wrong, or being called a newfag, even after you disclaim that it's just your personal taste? You can read the other posts even if you're not behind them and see why I'm starting to get shrewd.
>>8829795
Trending. These girls are all from different countries.
>>8829877
Not that anon, but your personal taste is wrong tho. I love me some poof, but an overstuffed petticoat looks bad in the same way that any garment not fitting properly does (think boobloaf).
>>8829789
I usually like this girl's coords but I'm really not liking the bear ear pompoms or the obvious wig. I want to see more people use Kumya Kumya-chan bags though.
>>8829885
>personal taste
>wrong
In the same way oversized bonnets, flower crowns, and peignoirs are 'wrong' I'm sure.
Can we please stop? It's getting out of hand.
>>8829888
If your personal taste was that dresses that boobloafed with gaps between the buttons were cute, you'd still be wrong. Personal taste doesn't mean your opinion isn't wrong.
>>8829869
Hope this is bait, an A-line petticoat under a cupcake skirt can look like utter shit.
>>8829889
We're not talking about boobloaf or button gap, anon. We're talking about the shape of a petticoat. Nice try.
Anyway, you're not gaining any ground with me so stop being so defensive and drop it (if it's within your capacity).
>>8829890
Post example or gtfo.
I've rarely seen an a-line look bad unless it was deflated.
>>8829895
I'm not the original person you were arguing with.
>>8829898
I'm not the anon you're arguing with but even I think it's getting a bit ridiculous. Petticoat shape isn't on the same level of offense as an ill fitted dress or blouse. Your comparisons are getting too asspained to be taken seriously.
>>8829898
Sure you're not...
>>8829897
Couldn't find any of the (several) newbie example photos that used to float round for this on Google images, so can't be bothered. Confirmed for new as all shit if you've never seen what a bell-shaped skirt looks like with an A-line petticoat anyway.
>>8829905
>"hurr anon what I'm talking about is so popular and easily searchable that I can't be assed to do it myself so there u newfag baka"
Haha holy shit, someone sounds mad.
>>8829536
>50 reply argument over a coord with nothing fundamentally wrong about it
Cgl is such a fucking pit.
>>8829901
THIS!
Just agree you don't agree and shut up.
Let's get this back on track now shall we
>>8829457
You're just used to OTT, old school itas wore lace monsters, not this. She looks nice.
And as someone who wears a lot of black, it's harder than you think to coord, since blacks never want to match.
>>8829484
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>8829918
>Cgl is such a fucking pit.
seriously though
like don't get me wrong cgl helped me a lot in becoming better at lolita quicker in the beginning but some people here get seriously asspained over the dumbest shit
>>8829897
>http://lolita-tips.tumblr.com/post/26769945068/could-you-supply-some-images-of-a-dress-with-the
it doesn't photograph well but I'd expect even someone with no sewing knowledge can understand that there is a fucking difference in how A line and bell skirts are constructed.
>>8829850
I understand that this is not currently on cof but this is adorable, I love sweet coords in blue/sax
>>8829792
the coord seems ok but god that picture sucks
I can't wait to get my shit kicked in by cgl because my petti coat was like 5 cm off from the happy medium of what they're supposed to look like.
Lol dumb bitches wasted image replies in the CoF thread.
These threads are such train wrecks.
>>8829457
She's wearing brand, it can't be that cheap
>>8830024
Even the nicest looking cords have to have something wrong with them, it's so bleak in here, you'd think lolita was doomed from the start.
