>>8774529
The wrist cuffs omg
>>8774529
She's got potential, but this dress is so bad. I want her to make an op with a real waist.
>>8774529
The sleeves go down to her elbows
I feel so bad, she looks so proud
>>8774529
No one is ever brave enough to tell this girl her shit sucks. She insists on hand making everything, but her sewing/crafting skills just aren't at a high enough level to work for lolita. She needs better materials too. This shitty, wrinkly, near see through, quilting cotton has got to go.
>>8774708
lol what in the world??
>>8774708
Draco?
>>8774708
was the Alice dress made using a yumi king tutorial? the ill-fitting bodice reminds me of her shit
>>8774822
Holy shit why are those tights so dirty?
>>8774822
Oh Jesus..
>The lovely model... ...who added the brilliant style idea of pairing a long underskirt with this salopette for a fresh new look!
>>8775024
I like this.
>>8775041
Shit taste detected
>>8775070
The idea itself isn't too bad, but the execution is terrible. Especially on the floppy bodice. But other than that it could have been okay.
These wristcuffs look silly too.
>>8774822
ew ew ew ew her feet
>>8775024
>underskirt
>with a salopette
Science has gone too far.
>>8775116
That's pretty rude of you to post someone like that, m8. Was she looking for advice? It doesn't even look bad.
>>8775116
>>8775163
if these are private pictures she sent just to you that's kind of shitty lol
stop being a bitch and help her. if she goes to the holiday potluck looking like a mess and posts pics of herself on public social media then show us the pics but also posting photos someone has privately sent you just sets you up for trouble.
>>8775163
I hope your comm finds out about this.
>>8775116
>>8775163
Don't be a bitch anon, she came to you privately for advice and you posther on cgl right away?
>>8774529
Damn OP. I belong to the sewing groups where she posted this too. I decline to comment on shitty handmade stuff because... what can you do? If you offer "help" you'll just offend all their hard work. It's best just to say nothing and leave it at that.
Also, I believe she said she started the dress out as one of those "sack" dresses. She specifically said something like Holy Lantern. But the shape didn't work for her, so she added the belt to define her waist. I mean it's not the best thing I've seen, but it's far from the worst I've seen from the groups. She's got the gist of it. She just has to get more practice.
>>8775236
your comm sounds fucking shitty
if someone posts pictures looking for advice in your group and your response is to post them on cgl, and the rest of the comm is okay with that, then your comm clearly has issues.
>>8775236
>she doesn't share any sizes.
...so ask her?
>>8775304
With us I mean, she's on the heavier side.
"Otome"
>>8775368
>Notome
>>8774822
O swear the dirt takes the shape of shoes which begs me to ask:how fucking dirty are her shoes?
>>8775271
Maybe if the belt were a bit higher? It has potential to be fixed and I can admire her for actually doing something. I can'r sew for shit.
>>8775368
Even the skirt print is wrong. She literally got no part of this right.
>>8775368
"But I have special needs!"
>>8775377
I don't even know where to begin to correct the fit of this honestly. I think it's best just to take it as a learning lesson on what not to do next time.
I don't think sewing is hard, but having an eye for design is. Being able to sew does not mean you'll be able to design too. The two are not mutually exclusive. I wish so much that I could say this to the sewing groups, not to discourage them, but to make them stop and think about it for once.
>>8775374
I like you.
>>8775368
dem feet
>>8775236
Your comm sounds like it's full of bitches if they all think it's fine to share these photos of her asking for help on here.
>>8775368
Not all ballet footing is for lolita.
>>8774529
Why do so many handmade itas have messy, poorly decorated houses? They seem to go hand in hand.
>>8775347
Why do you even need to know her size? Point her towards taobao shops that have a custom sizing option in something you think would be flattering.
Walk her through the ordering process--if there's something you were thinking of buying maybe you can order together.
Your shitty excuse is shitty. Your actions were mean.
>>8775577
I just don't understand how people can take a pic in front of a mess and decide to post it online. Like at least blur/crop it out or take your picture in front of a wall if you really cannot tidy up your house. It's kind of like when people take pics in the bathroom - fine, but don't do it and have your gross, overflowing trashcan in it too!
>>8775555
Ugh is this chess story? Fuck taobao brands, that looks awful
>>8775600
Kekkarino at that quilting cotton and its hideous print
Tired of seeing handmade lolita in shitty, 4$/yd fabric
https://www.instagram.com/p/_hcQPpt88B/?tagged=livingdoll
no wonder people think lolita is a fetish
>>8775613
Isn't that supposed to be based on Trump Doll though?
>>8775600
I thought this was someone I knew. Then I realized fat people really do all look the same in the face once you pass the 300lb mark.
>>8775610
what a fucking nightmare
>>8775577
I want to know this too.
I also want to add... Why would someone even bother posting a picture of themselves in a messy ass room for a background and then say "sorry/excuse the mess". Or they plaster the picture with stickers to try and hide it. You know I can still see that shit right? Like go outside and take the damn picture! It's not hard!
(Or clean your fuckin room before taking the picture!)
>>8775637
Or even clean the space around it.
I'm a fucking slob and even I always managed to find a clean space to take pics in.
>>8775641
Amen.
>>8775610
This belongs in the cringe thread, holy shit.
>>8775610
I feel so sorry for that dress.
>>8775577
or just try to live with the fact that someone is messy and some not? At least they are honest. Its not ita to be messy, you're an ita when your coord suck.
>>8775661
Except that a lot of itas are also messy. Correlation isn't causation, but that's still a hell of a correlation.
>>8774822
Why is it so impossible for some people to coord? Like I do really love the idea of a santa lolita with the cardigan and the hat, but with that dress and let alone the dirty socks it just looks like a hot mess.
>>8775670
I wonder the same thing sometimes. Like it's not hard to look decent and not ita. When in doubt, stick to the same color scheme as the dress/skirt you're wearing. But some people just can't even manage that.
>>8775555
Everything about this is cute as fuck honedtly
>>8775680
except for the poinsettia headpiece and the way-too-white wig, I'd be inclined to agree. but something about how this fits on her isn't flattering. I think maybe she would look less formless without the capelet, I don't know.
>>8775555
Its a hot fucking mess wtf
>>8774822
From the thumbnail I thought she was wearing shoes. JFC that's disgusting.
>>8775555
I don't like that caplet because it's giving her a weird no neck thing, and the sleeves of the blouse would have looked better with it if they had been fitted vs being to full. And she needed WAY more volume in that wig to pull off the headpiece. Probably should have gone for some kind of full and big up-do. Go big or go home if you're going to try and pull off headwear like that.
>>8775555
Honestly the only thing I really dislike about the coord are the wig choice and the flowers.
Had she gone with a natural wig and a simple red hairpiece I think this could have been nicer.
>>8775623
I really want to help her improve...but I'm scared to offer concrit on our comm page
>>8775602
Is the blouse stained?
>>8775610
I hate this.
>>8775623
At least tell her to iron it.....
>>8775985
Underrated comment.
>>8775985
I laughed more than I should. Thanks anon.
>>8774708
>>8776065
>>8776069
It honestly makes me ill how often the comm gives her asspats for her shit tier co-ords. That's why I always post her here to assure myself I'm not going crazy. Lol. I don't plan on ever bothering to offer her advice again, because she just ignores it and four other itas assure her that her co-ord is excellent.
>>8776578
Also, she needs to quit posting separate posts for each of her shitty co-ords. I'm tired of getting notifications from her.
>>8775623
Is that a wig too? It's horrid.
>>8776383
She posted this on her cosplay "fanpage" as the original dress she fucked up to make that monstrosity.
This is just messy
>>8776383
>>8776600
I saw that too! It's just not cute... I wish it was socially acceptable to tell people when they make ugly stuff. She ruined a nice dress for this shit.
>>8776612
It's just not coordinated well. Definitely fixable.
>>8776383
How do you fuck up a bow that bad? Even the simplest youtube tutorial wouldn't have given you this disgraceful crap.
>>8776578
What comm?
>>8776383
The dress obviously doesn't fit her well. Her boobs are sitting at the waist of the dress. I really wish people knew how to dress for their body shape better. Like just because you can squeeze into and you can get the zipper up, it doesn't mean it fits you well. (sigh)
>>8776383
>8776383
Those brows tho...
>>8776636
Was this her other "lolita" dress she made?
>>8776383
Girl is in need of a push up bra or needs to actually wear a bra. Boobs shouldn't be sitting that low on someone that age.
>>8776642
Yeah. Her cosplays are just as bad.
>>8776636
>>8776642
Yep.... wow.
>>8776659
>Any tips my lolita peeps?
Don't.
>>8776659
She didn't say that. Please tell me she didn't say that flounder dress was fuckin Lolita. I'm done.
>>8776600
Oh geez. I like how in the original, the boobs are generally supposed to be IN the swoopy chest things, but the girl has her boobloaf where her ribcage should go.
>>8776636
>>8776642
>>8776659
>>8776670
>>8776664
>>8776636
God this makes me think of the fat chick who used a bed sheet of Beauty and the Beast for her 'stained glass' opening on her belle dress.
>>8776636
she literally used the little mermaid bed sheets for this wtf
at least try to get some actual decent fabric
>>8776732
I hope no one would've spent money on these monstrosities
>>8776745
Well, they just look too awful to be brand... of any kind to be honest. So I thought they were handmade.
>>8776749
If anyone mistakes any of this crap for brand even for a second. They don't lolita hard enough/or at all.
>>8776630
St louis
>>8776705
These are not so bad. Red needs a red bow, non striped socks and shoes.
Fatty-chan is just fat. If a small asian girl wore this people would say it's cute. Not lolita, but just kawaii jfashion.
>>8776729
I feel like this COULD be cute if it was better quality and had accessories in it and obviously not for lolita...I'm not the only one that thinks that, right?
>>8776752
Hahaha... I said brand of any kind. Doesn't have to be Lolita specific. Just thinking it looked too awful to have been mass produced, even on a small scale. Like what designer would have possibly thought, "Yeah, this looks good enough. Send it to the factories!"
>>8776578
Can the dress itself be saved? The lace on the skirt hem has definitely got to go and the ribbon on the bodice looks pretty cheap, but since it's a gift I'm not sure how to suggest modifying it...if it would even work to help the coordinate in the first place.
>>8776612
The elements are so adorable, but the execution is sloppy as fuck. So unfortunate, this could have been a lot cuter than it is
>>8776383
I think it's kinda cute
Sort the neckline out and get rid of the teddy bear material (bottom and bow) it would look good. The hemming and lace just above the bear fabric looks great imo
>>8774529
I actually think OP is fixable.
Make it a JSK. No cuffs. Decorated waist band. Better shoes.
No glasses. Curled hair. Pretty golden hair bow.
Extra credit would be a pretty velvet fur trimmed caplet and maybe a muff.
>>8776882
Wtf are you looking at? This ia a complete mess. Those are retarded cars at the bottom....
>>8775577
>Why do so many handmade itas have messy, poorly decorated houses? They seem to go hand in hand.
Why do so many itas have messy, poorly decorated houses? They seem to go hand in hand.
FTFY
Something about having crappy taste and poor matching skills should be expected to carry over into personal space.
I always wonder why they don't break from that for a picture. It'll take all of 5 minutes to shove your shit off frame or 20 minutes to do a decent job.
And that pic is permanent. So make it count.
>>8776882
Cars...
>>8775600
Pretty Patties?
>>8775610
Oh good LORD...
>>8776906
awww I thought they were cute owls...
>>8776383
>>8776600
>>8776615
>>8776616
>>8776882
>>8776906
>>8776625
thanks rosemont
>>8776612
To be honest I think this belongs in the nitpick thread. It's not like this hurts to look at, just needs to be reaccessorized. And definitely new shoes.
>>8776383
>thumbnail
>this doesn't look that bad
>full res
>pic related
>>8776600
I might be wrong but isn't the lighter part the part where your boobs kind of sit? So the part under the boob is where the top of the darts/seams are, and then your collar bone would still be showing? I don't know wtf she did to wear the dress so oddly. I can see it doesn't fit in the bust area but somehow she shoved her boobs down into the part where the rib cage is supposed to be? I'm lost.
>>8776934
That carpet is in dire need of some shampooing.
>>8774708
girl on the right is a cutie but on the left, holy fuck that is one cheap ass outfit
>>8776948
Same dress, different color . I think you're right
>>8776647
I don't even think this is lolita. Its just a cute outfit. Would've worn different shoes tho.
>>8776964
It was at a meet up for the Philippines comm. It was in the tags.
>>8776612
cute in a weird, thrift shop way
>>8776659
First tip, burn that flounder dress.
>>8776882
That lace just above the bear fabric is that lace that either comes with a ribbon weaved through it, or has the opening to weave a ribbon through it. She just didn't put a ribbon through it. No actual skills needed to tack that on a dress and have it look okay.
>>8775622
>Trump doll
>>8776625
tfw i saw that skirt on millanoo's website when I first got into lolita
>>8778397
Not from what I can see. I think she's just unfortunately not self aware at all. From her profile, it says she went to beauty school and there is always one person like that there. They're not disabled, they just don't care enough.
this idiot turned up to a lolita meet in this, and knew literally no brands other than bodyline, yet always has massive rants about how all lolita's who wear brand are snobby cunts who bully bodyline lolitas
>>8779081
You could have been a mentor instead of writing her off as stupid. Yeah,the outfit is fug, but she's obviously new and has more of an online experience where all the bodyline haters are more vocal.
A better way would be to pull up some great bodyline coords to show her instead of pettily complaining to the ita thread that she graced your air irl.
>>8775368
>>8779087
the thing is we gave her tones and tones of advice and just shrugs it off, we explained how she need's petti's, how to wear jsk's and blouses and how the ebay stuff is best to avoid because its such low quality, she literally couldn't understand that lolita was about the whole coordinate and now just wearing a dress
>>8775607
This isn't even Chess Story you newfag.
>>8779098
Don't worry Anon I support you posting dense itas here, some people just learn through humiliation, btw thats the itaest dress Ive seen in a long time.
Does she have a tumblr by any chance?
>>8779081
ahh yes, the worst kind of ita.
What is this even
>>8779081
Is that Sindy Pop?
>>8776637
What is this. Beatnik kei?
Why don't these whales just end their lives? Absolutely pathetic.
>>8776625
Daym I want those shoes for casual tho. I hope she added those bows herself. Anyone know where to cop these?
>>8776762
She's not...fat???
>>8775661
Messy= leaving clothes on a chair and a cup/bottle on a table once in a while, and shoving that shit out of sight when you go to take a pic in the mirror.
Slob= your whole room looks like a biohazard waste disposal. Plates have moldy food and are stacked high, there's a patch of something suspicious growing on a wall, and going from the door to the end of the room is an exercise in mental and physical dexterity. Mirror pics are blurry because the mirror is filthy and a mountain of miscellaneous shit is piled high around the mirror.
There's a difference. OP looks like she's gravitating towards the latter, and that carpet is filthy.
It's not ita to be messy, no, but it absolutely doesn't improve the picture or the coord, and it's more likely that their outfit is dirty because of the mess they live in. It's nasty either way.
>>8776755
oh god i thought i recognized her from somewhere...
>>8780244
Looks like it, though I thought she'd said she doesn't go to meets.
>>8776636
i had those bedsheets in elementary school wtf
straight from CoF
>>8776612
I kinda like this. It reminds me of dolly kei.
>>8780792
Have you ever even seen dolly kei?
>>8780795
I didn't say I thought it WAS dolly kei. I just thought the colors and the fur accessories were reminiscent of it. Christ, anon.
>>8780485
yeah, are you in our comm?
>>8780759
What, are those mini tophats automatically ita now? The bags kind of questionable, but this is kind of cute.
>>8780759
This is nitpick punk, not ita.
>>8780974
They've been ita for a few years now, haven't they? Personally I think they look stupid, especially those shitty handmade one some people sell at craft fairs. A nicely made mini tricorn, however, that's a different story.
>>8780974
They've always been an ita thing for like...ages. I don't think I've ever seen mini top hats done well.
>>8780759
Wtf is going on with that skirt. It's the oddest shape. Like it's father was a mermaid skirt and it's mother was a cupcake skirt.
>>8781262
The construction is decent and the dress could work in a wacky, Meta sort of way but everything else about this coord is a mess. What a shame.
>>8781262
>>8781266
Agreed. It could work cause it looks well made and it's not a mess of a print.
It would need some sharp coordination though.
Her hair is too busy for a busy dress and those glasses have got to go and be replaced with an old time round wire frame if she must have them to see.
New shirt, proper hosiery and shoes needed as well.
>>8781262
Aww, I think Weird Al-chan is kindof cute!
>>8781186
No that's pretty ita. It looks terrible.
>>8780759
from the same contest
>>8781579
So much try hard.
>>8781434
>Weird Al-chan
TOP KEK
I swear Moitie Ita is God given gift.
>dat ratty wig
>sad Christmas tree is sad
>horrible makeup
>what is posing?
>sandals in the bg
>>8781661
her terribly sad christmas trees give me life
Most likely a nitpick but Holy Shit where's this girl's torso??
Also, I'm willing to bet thats a replica she's trying to pass as brand how sad.
>>8781661
at this point I am starting to wonder if this is all an extended piece of performance art
>>8781671
Her wig looks nice.
>>8775368
What an ugly face. Those glasses and messy hair aren't kawaii
>>8775024
Take your trashy ass piercing out. Holy fuck.
>>8781579
>those different colored clips on her shoes
>>8780235
Is she pregnant because I'm confused with what's going on with her stomach
>>8775024
what dress is that?
>>8778397
I wonder that about most itas desu
>>8781661
This is actually a decent outfit (maybe without that choker) if she took it in a better scenery in daylight. Then maybe the wig wouldn't be so shiny.
>>8779081
Oh god
As a bodyline-chan, there's still no excuse. At least the skirt looks salvageable in an odd lief-ish countryish dirndly kind of way
>>8780759
Kek at those """"" wrist cuffs """""
>>8779514
>not knowing trash taobao brands makes someone a newfag
Stay ita
>>8782143
Except Chess Story isn't trash... stop while you're behind newfag
>>8782182
Yeah I have a few chess story items and their quality is fairly good.
>>8774822
>green hair
>orange skin
oompa loompa?
>>8781579
Star clips on her shoes, fucking lol
>>8779087
Anon, this is /cgl/. Sure, we get pissed off if someone is posted or complained about in an unwarranted way, but if they have a bad attitude and literally go into a comm setting insulting people, they don't deserve to be defended.
>>8780235
That horrible moment when I thought for a second this was my friend but quickly realised that my friend has worse teeth...
>>8781218
I don't think that mini-hats are inherently ita, just that many itas find the cheapest ebay mini-hat and slap dollar store ribbon on it. I think many brand minihats are very nice as they are much less mini than the cheap off brand ones, making them passable in my opinion.
>>8780960
I was - I moved out of STL pretty recently.
>>8782891
I remember someone posting about mini-hats and how even though brand mini-hats are mini they still hold a certain size equality that keeps them realistic and therefore good?
I know that sounds like total bullshit and the person that originally posted it used way better wording but I can't find it.
>>8782913
So shes gonna ruin some perfectly good bedsheets and make a hideous skirt all in one.
>go big or go home
>>8781611
What are you even on about, anon? Shit looks cute.
Just a nitpick but christ. The neck thing, the arm thing, the peignoir, the floppy headpiece, the blouse thing, the bright red lipstick, the frizzy ass wig, and - I know she probably can't help it - but the glasses are ugly as sin in lolita and out.
>>8781671
That looks very much like the original, which has full-back shirring and can fit pretty large girls, but why is she wearing a vehicle floor mat on her shoulders?
>>8784093
This again? This shit was already posted forever ago. Calm your tits vendetta-chan
>>8784099
Oh shit really? I was just looking for some pictures on Google of Candy Sprinkle and it came up, didn't know it got posted before, sorry.
>>8784099
I wouldn't call it vendetta. I don't live in ita threads so I haven't seen it before.
Looks fuck awful to me
>>8782913
oh lawd. Those Ralph Lauren bears. I don't frequent /fa/, but I see them posted there every once in a while. This is so lulzy.
>>8784093
I'm not really going to do this, but I feel like a terrible person for wanting to use this as an example for newbies to not throw every tumblr trend into one coord.
And then I remember that I browse 4chan.
>>8775600
>>8775602
Oh Milwaukee, never change...
Random ita for contribute.
>>8784304
It's fine up to the waist. Why would you do that?
>>8781661
She's kinda notorious for being an ita with metric tons of Moitie.
>>8784319
Ripped tights, anon?
>>8781671
its cute
>>8784304
Honestly, those 2 are perpetual itas that will never change, only slightly getting better over time
>>8784224
>tumblr trend
I mean don't get be wrong I would agree with you but what about that coord is a tumblr trend aside from the peignoir?
>>8784224
>top left bear
>grandpa kei
I bet the person who posted that bedsheet doesn't have anywhere near the proportions of her image.
>>8784526
Shit, I didn't even notice that, at first glance I thought it was a pattern.
Nevermind then.
>>8784304
Is that a massive hole/ladder in her tights? Lel just throw them away
>>8784713
I gave her concrit once a thousand years ago and she just brushed it off, now I just do my best to kill her with kindness because it isn't even worth it. She posts so much. It's awful.
>>8784713
Oh good god.
>>8784713
SHE'S WEARING JEANS
JEAAAAANNSSSSS
>>8775623
the stl comm is full of itas and it's gotten so out of hand that the mods can't do anything to stop them RIP our comm
>>8784735
cryin 4 da comm
>>8784713
lol a mod just told commented and wrote a big long thing about not posting and CoF and how she can post there blah blah blah and she got so salty she just replied with "ok" Guess she doesnt have much to say unless its in the form of "omg u look sooooo cute!"
>>8784713
THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE RIGHT
I'm not really angry just incredulous. Must be bait. I cannot believe anyone sincerely thinks this looks OK
>>8784744
It's not a joke. She always does this shit. Posts every single one of her shitty coords to the STL comm page.
>>8784741
She doesn't get that no one wants to see her ugly ass homemade shit shows. The mod has told her numerous times to make one giant post but the moron keeps posting separately. I'm tired af of getting notifications of her horse shit.
I can't handle her.
>>8784744
Nah lmao our comm is an ita shit show.
>>8776625
She may be a an ita, but I'm jealous of her perfect petite figure and popping eye/brow makeup.
>>8784748
this is such a fucking train wreck
>>8784755
oh my fucking god, my sides. This is the shirt that she sewed onto a skirt.
>>8784755
another ita commented on her wardrobe post and called this the "hot air balloon" dress and how much she loved it. I laughed at hot air balloon dress but holy shit the itas in our comm asspat each other so much it's sick
"Want to play this Halloween?"
actual comment on the photo by her
>>8784755
It's literally a men's normalfag shirt with shitty lace and ribbons sewn on
The fact she also has a shit eating grin in most of her pictures kills me too
>>8784755
Did she just sew blouse onto a skirt to make an OP?
And dude, that's one nasty sink.
>>8784766
That's exactly what she did.
her "wardrobe"
>>8784755
Why is there a naked Barbie doll under the towel?
>>8784755
Whenever I try to explain to my normalfag friends what an "ita" is, I just show them this photo...and then they understand.
>>8784769
There is something really depressing about this picture, the laundry basket, the ugly PVC floor, the pile of shitty dresses...why would you show this off?