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Last thread was saging.
It's been a while since we've had some selfposts- Show makeup tests, hall shots, WIPs, or just say what you're working on to help get the thread started. (pic not related, just grabbed from last thread)
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I was just cleaning out photos on my phone and realized bought the fabric to make Pearl over a year ago. I have the bottom half of the costume done, but I've lost a lot of motivation with how the fandom has been going.
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>>8711475
Might as well finish it and then either keep it or sell it to a SU fan.
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>>8711475
People who loose interest in something because of a fandom are weak.
You realize that everything you like is also liked by crappy people? Are just gonna stop liking everything then? Treat yourself better than that anon
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>>8711475
I understand how you feel anon- I don't want people to look at me cosplaying SU at a con and think I'm some crazy tumblr person. But I still want to cosplay SU, so I'm going to! There are shitty people in the fandom, but I don't want some horrible fans to impact my love of cosplaying and SU
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What's the best way to go about Rose's star cutout? I don't want to just paste a skin toned star on my dress, but I've seen some cutouts that have drooped and completely lost their shape. Would reverse applique be the best approach, or is there a way to do an actual cutout that doesn't involve fabric and still holds its shape? Sorry if this is a pretty stupid question, I've never had to do something like this before in my sewing.
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Im going to do garnet to a convention soon. Pretty happy with everything on my costume so far (minus a few setbacks)
Did i mention that im a pasty white kid?
>inb4 blackface with red paint.
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>>8711536
...no one on here has called red paint on garnets black face. everyone always says that red/purple paint looks good. the only controversy was when a white cosplayer legitimately painted herself the color of a black person with no red in her paint.
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>>8711541
Yea, im useing red facepaint with, setting with pink/purple blush and contouring with a brown. Hopefully i won't offend anyone but im sure it'll happen.
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>>8711547
what version of garnet are you doing? in her first form, you could do red, contour with dark red, and highlight with a lighter red and just do red blush. dont mix in brown if you think it might offend someone, unless you're that desperate for attention
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>>8711534

You could try doing a facing and sewing a wire in along the seam allowance to keep the star stiff.
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>>8711556
Im doing post jail break.
Cause i dont have dark red or light red. Just generic fire engine red. And I'm trying to make it look Not like fire engine red.

I just have white, contour brown, two shades of blush and two shades of pale skin tone.
And random eye shadow but im not counting those tiny pots.
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>>8711534
I think making a border with stiff interfacing and sewing it along the seam allowence should keep it in shape.
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>>8711534
Yes reverse appliqué would be the best way. One way of getting very crisp cutouts is to stitch a thin but stiff fabric like organza in the shape of the cutout, cut the shape out leaving 1/4" seam allowance, turn under and press, and then edge stitch (if you aren't sure what a edge stick is look it up it will keep it from rolling), and then reverse appliqué the flesh color fabric.
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>>8711570
post jailbreak, her skin is purple. there are so many places online to buy paint in many different colors, or you could mix your own. TAG's berry wine is a great color for garnet's post-jailbreak skin tone. you could use purple paint, contour with dark purple, and highlight with a lighter purple or pink. and there's nothing wrong with contouring with eyeshadows as long as they're matte. im cheap and i tend to buy those to contour with- they work great if you know how to use them
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anyone feel like doing a tag dump to get the thread rolling?
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>>8711579
>purple
are you clinically retared?
that's red. just take some medium red, and mix in a little light brown. you;re gonna need brown to make it look better but a light brown and very little.
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>>8711616
getting pretty aggressive about paint, aren't you? i would suggest getting your eyes checked if you cant see that her regenerated form is way more purple/pink tinged than brown and red. brown paint would look like shit with her new color palette
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>>8711516
How is that anon weak? I've lost interest in things before from over exposure to shitty fans. It's a pretty normal reaction to start to resent something you once loved because it begins to take on the negative aspects of the fandom in your head no matter what you try.
She makes the costume, wears it to a con, those are the sorts of people who she will meet in that outfit. You can say all you want about the rest of the fandom being decent but the loud idiots always shout over the chill parts, and that is who you are going to notice first.
It's unrealistic to tell people to not lose interest in something when the fandom's less than savory exploits are plastered all over the internent.
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I would love a tutorial on how to make peridot's wig. So far I've only had makeup tips on YouTube which don't leave me with much
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>>8711624
ugh this happened to me with supernatural
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>>8711621
a very slight purple tint.
painting yourself purple in any way is going to look retarded. shy would you ever suggest purple for garnet?
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>>8711621
While its tru their skin isnt strictly purple. Its not red either. I think its more maroon if anything.
But im also very poor and cant really afford the fancy paints. Though i might be able to buy a dark blue and mix the two? (The paints are mehron grease paint)
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>>8711575

Don't do organza, do something with a little stretch to it that can take the shape of your body. Organza won't.
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>>8711641
im not suggesting straight grape purple. if you actually read my post through (which im guessing you didnt), i suggested TAG in berry wine, like in my picture. It's a warm deep purple with reddish undertones.

>>8711642
the good thing about TAG is that it's pretty cheap- you can get a container of it for 10 dollars on amazon and it lasts through 10 or more applications. though if youre desperate, i think mixing blue and red could be a nicer color than fire truck red
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>>8711645
I've got a group of gemsona costumes going to AX next year; any experience with TAG's yellow?
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>>8711645
Will it ship to australia?? Ill have to look at it when i get home.
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>>8711516
What? I don't like the show any less. I'm just not as excited to wear the costume because I took so long that Pearl has already been done half to death and I don't look forward to dealing with a lot of the fans in costume.
I'm still going to do it because my bf still wants to cosplay Amethyst.
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>>8711629
To be honest I haven't seen many good SU tutorials at all. There's been a handful of okay makeup ones but so many of the gem and wig tuts are terrible things like "make Sardonyx's wig out of fleece." Pic very related.
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>>8711643
Why exactly? What I'm suggesting is a technique to not show a raw edge you still would appliqué a flesh colored fabric underneath. Not to mention you would need to stabilize a cutout at the waist anyways especially with the amount of tension there is.
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>>8711471
Well, getting away from all this paint talk, here's a pic of my cyclops Sapphire? It was my first time making anything close to a prosthetic so it was super rough around the edges, but I'm still p happy with how it turned out!
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>>8711629
hair only hanari style, hair helmet hamsterparade style or fusion of both gekroent style?
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>>8711723
ooh i think i've seen your cosplay before! the eye is a really cool idea, and i love how poofy your sleeves are. here's a WIP of my rose quartz! i still have a few things to do before she's finished, but im pretty happy so far, especially with the sword!
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>>8711668
No experience with their yellow, sadly, but I have about 10 colors by them and they all work wonderfully, so their yellow probably is good too.
>>8711668
I suggest checking it out for future cosplays of Garnet if you can't get it now. If Amazon won't ship it to Australia, you can try eBay- there are a lot of Australian sellers there
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>>8711723

it's really good for a first time and blends really well desu
iiiiiincredibly uncanny, a little afraid
still really good though, good job!
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>>8712005
Actually, I really, really love TAG and I have other colors by them too, but yellow is not something I would recommend from them. It's quite hard to blend and is easy to make splotchy. Maybe it's just me, but their other colors are just so much easier to work with. I would recommend something like Kryolan for a yellow, since I've seen some pretty good results from them, although its twice the price of TAG.

>>8711668
They are actually based in Australia, so I'm pretty sure they do!
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>>8712134
>>8712005
You guys are awesome, thanks for your input!
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>>8711716

Because it'll wrinkle and then be obviously not-skin?

Unless I'm mistaken, I thought you were recommending organza for the fabric that the gem is glued to.
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>>8712344
So the other two who suggested wire and stiff interface are somehow is better to make it lay flat? Look up how welt pockets are done. The technique is done to enforce the cutout and not show a raw edge which reverse appliqué usually has. My degree is in apparel development so I'm not talking out of my ass I'm speaking from the years of experience I have and thanks to recent trends my experience with cutouts and appliqué techniques.
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"I'm a seamstress working on an SU inspired collection, here's the first piece."
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>>8712362
The construction of the corset looks solid, but what is up with the nasty trim?
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>>8711996
if i can be honest, your wig isn't going to work. it looks way too bubblegum pink, you need something lighter for rose, and i would make a better attempt at taming the curls.
but the dress looks fantastic so far!
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>>8712472
haha yeah i didnt have great lighting when i took this! here's a comparison that I hope better shows the color in white lighting. I am planning on working on the wig some before actually wearing her to a con (adding wefts to make it fuller, working on smoothing out the curls, teasing it, etc). and thank you!
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>>8712497
ah, the wig does look a much better color in this pic.
well then, my only critique remains at taming the curls, and styling the bangs. otherwise you're good to go!

oh and if you don't already know, please use some sort of wire or interfacing when you do your gem cutout! a rose cosplay can be ruined by a shitty cutout.
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>>8712514
thank you! and definitely haha, the last picture was a few days ago before I worked on the bangs and stuff, they should look way better by the time i wear her for real! and i was the one who asked >>8711534 because i want a very clean, no droop cutout, but it seems there's some debate on which would be the best way, so im still deciding on how to do it!
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>>8712497

I really like this color. Where is it from?
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>>8712571
thank you! unfortunately, i impulse-bought it at a con a month or two ago and i dont remember what the name of the company was, sorry!! i really wish i kept a business card or something from them, because the wig is super nice for rose and i'd love to buy another
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>>8712597
gothiclolitawigs.com has wigs that look kinda similar in style, but they don't have the right pink. just a very light faded pink
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>>8712634
yeah, it definitely wasn't glw, i tried ordering a wig from them in the past but the style just wasn't right for rose in my opinion! i bought one of their countess wigs in the right color and straightened and styled it, but i just wasnt happy with it so i sold it.
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>>8712566
>interfacing

That is how you do it.
Wire will look like crap.
Depending on what your dress is made of will tell you which interfacing to use.

Facing will keep the edges nice & neat looking.
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>>8712597
Could it have been this one? http://www.animestuffstore.com/product.php?productid=32914&cat=6150&page=1
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PSA:
Please stop suggesting wire for Rose's star cutout.
In order for it to be strong enough to hold the shape it will have to be around coat-hanger thickness which will looks lumpy and bad in all likelihood.
Personally, I think interfacing+reverse applique is the best choice, with a sheer, nude material inside to keep the gut from bulging out.
Whatever process used should be figured out before the dress bodice is constructed too since any quality Rose dress is doing to need boning built in which had a good chance of interfering with the star placement/bodice stability.

tl;dr use trial and error before constructing the whole dress instead of waiting til the garment is complete to figure out the star.
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>>8712068
Thanks! And yeah, I was freaking people out all over the place and startled a couple of people into screaming.
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>>8712983
that looks pretty similar to me!
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>>8711723
You should add some fake eyelashes or something for depth.
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>>8713930
I was super split on whether or not to add eyelashes but i left them off mainly because I ran out of time to go purchase some but also because I kinda liked the uncanny of it without and we don't actually know if she does have eyelashes or not.

I am definitely going to get some before I wear it again though!
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>>8711641
your a special kind of stupid, garnet is a fuschia color. you must be blind.
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the temple fusion got finished
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>>8715091
eh
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>>8715091
its alright i guess
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>>8715091
lacks rock hair
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>>8715091
Cute idea, wish the arms matched better. I like the face though.
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>>8711676
i really expected better than this from gothichamlet, wtf
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>>8715337
You're probably joking, but that's not GH
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>>8711676
isnt there one for this one?
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>>8715358
Is there? Got a link?

Or just /r/ing any SU tutorials in general, both good and laughable ones please.
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>>8715091
im guessing this is a test run, but it just lacks all the presence that the temple has (huge hair is a big part of its look, and the plain dress just looks so.. boring? the arms are weirdly splotchy too, with the human skin tone showing underneath. it's a cool concept and could probably be improved, but it just needs to be executed better
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>>8715368
not that anon, but gekroent's tumblr has 2 peridot wig styling tutorials.
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>>8715091
and now you're realizing that the stature actually has 8 arms
here's the proof and also a picure comparision
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>>8711471
since we're pretty much already talking about the temple gem, i plan on (eventually) cosplaying this artist's version of the temple fusion, but the rock one is also a cool idea!
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>>8715419
....omfg. I didn't even realize she left two of the arms out.
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>>8711676
That "wig" in action.
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>>8715454
Did she purposefully make it so droopy on the sides? Honestly, why would you make it with fleece.. You could alter a peridot wig tutorial to just have rounder edges and it would be way better than a stuffed fleece hat thing
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>>i really wish we could just finally see the temple gem in action, just for like 30 seconds.
steven universe episodes need to come out faster god fucking dammit
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>>8711676
i thought that was meant to be peridot the first time i saw it.
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>>8715454
why do people do this to themselves, it sounds like it would be fairly easy to get an afro wig, trim the sides a bit and use hairspray to shape it into a rounded triangle.
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>>8717137
same
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>>8715454
That whole outfit is such a wreck, wow.
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>>8718334
clean job on jasper. the destabalizer kind of looks like a silly straw, but that's a minor nitpick
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>>8715419
Im blind, I only see 6
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ill go on a tag search and dump some pictures here
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>>8718704
i think this pearl was trying to go for pearl's pupil-less look, but it honestly looks terrifying
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>>8718644
there are two setsof arms folded in that are holding the house, and two sets that are pointing out.
the sets holding the house are kinda hard to see.
here's another angle.
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>>8718746
not exactly cosplay, but i found this way too cute. (could also be a prop for rose or steven, i guess)
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>>8718773
shit like this makes me wonder
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i shall contribute some from the tag as well
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>>8718746
Holy shit those wings are beautiful. Are they plastic?
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>>8718732
Without the house so you can see the shape of the door the uterus metaphor becomes much more obvious.
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>>8718711
source? the entire outfit looks clean and the wig doesn't look too shabby from what I can see.
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>>8719427
Seconded

>>8718711
As much as i like it, i think it would've looked better with a lacefront
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>>8718755
oh my god, i love this. she looks adorable and that's a really nice interpretation on the onion hair. i'm glad to see someone cosplay vidalia in general; it's good to see minor characters getting a little bit of attention, not to mention she's the only character i'd really be able to pull off as well.
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>>8718848
Yessssss
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>>8711631
Same, except it's also because Supernatural is a shit show.
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>>8719427
didnt save the source, sorry. found it somewhere in the steven universe cosplay tag on tumblr-she had a big rose flag and is pretty easy to spot
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>"This patch is painted on canvas and sealed with mod podge."

Eww
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>>8721634
patches could be a cute idea if they were embroidered and not.. this
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a little pet peeve of mine is when people try to say peridot's hair is green. i just got told by some random to dye my peridot wig green, even though her hair is yellow/blonde. also: just got a complete image for my captcha
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>>8721807
This is so fucking pretty.. I think this is my favorite one. The wig looks good, not crazy pointy to the point of looking like Pearl's. The cosplay is sewed well and the makeup is really nice. AND HOLY SHIT THAT MIRROR.
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>>8718785
I think gemsonas are tacky as fuck.
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>>8721988
..it's centipeetle
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>>8721807
Ugh so close, but those terrible wrinkles/darts on the top. Why do people not use stretchy fabric? This kind of material always bunches weirdly.
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Lawd
this should just be a bad cosplay thread.
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>>8718334
>that fat jasper
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>>8721994
Doesn't make it ant less shitty. Considering this a gemsona because they did a human-esque personification. Looks garbage.
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You have heard of the theories that Cenitpeedle is actually a gem that was corrupted and became a monster? This is just the cosplayers idea of what a non-corrupted Centipeedle looks like as a regular gem.
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>>8722037
>did the shittiest interpretation possible

I have seen sketches of personifications of 'peedle. This was one of the worst ones I saw. For a creature so unsure of what it is doing, running around and eating shit left and right, to have this Envy looking Cruella De Ville looking piece of shit is just mind boggling.

And its bad. It looks really bad. The execution is horrible. One of the worse looking cosplays in this thread. Don't bother defending it.
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>>8722042
you sound mad because you got proven wrong twice. just stop responding and let the thread be
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>>8722063
Stop defending this so hard.

Its bad on so many levels. Not just the design.
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>>8722097
it may not be your favorite design, but it doesn't make it bad. it's not my favorite cosplay either, but she has good face paint, good wig, and the outfit is well executed, even if you dont think it is. jesus, some people on here need to learn the difference between 'bad in my opinion' and objectively bad
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>>8722099
>loose threads everywhere
>greens don't match
>hot glue seen on hand-held whatever that is
>wig is tangled as fuck
>star is shitty
>blacks don't match
>makeup is super bad

Anon, this is bad. This must be you. I think I remember someone else asking which version they should cosplay in another SU thread. Sorry, but your outfit needs a lot of work.
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>>8722099
other anon is right. it really isn't that great and there are a lot of things wrong with it. accept it and move on.

>>8722099
>objectively bad

it is
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>>8717137
lmao
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>>8722042
I'm with the other anon, it's not great especially since she's making a dumb hall photo face but "one of the worst in the thread"? Yeah no, sounds like you're letting your assrash over how much you hate the design get in the way. Putting her in a skirt and boa is really weird but the execution is mediocre at worst compared to your average SU cosplay.
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>>8721819
I can't decide if that captcha is satisfying or infuriating. Sage for not contriboot.
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>>8722133
Sorry about your vendetta, anon. It's either that or you get super assblasted over someone not agreeing with you or (the most likely conclusion) you're just some shitty troll who gets their kicks off arguing over meaningless subjects. It's a mediocre cosplay- some people like it, some people don't. Get over it.
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>>8722133
um im.. the anon who asked for design help planning a centipeetle cosplay a while ago, and I haven't even started on my cosplay, but someone posted this centipeetle in the thread to give me inspiration since there's so little centipeetle cosplays. I'm going in a different direction since I'm not a fan of the boa and relaxed wig, but honestly.. worst cosplay in the thread? it's not my favorite by far but have you seen some of the tinydots in this thread?
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>>8722469
dropped pic, but this is more what i'm going for with centipeetle
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>>8722042
i don't see how putting peedle in a skirt and boa is wrong. we really have no idea who she was or what her personality was like before she mutated
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>>8722556
i think the boa was meant to be the fur that centipeetle has around her neck- but yeah, it's a little weird to say that her personality is 'scared and aggressive'. she acted like a cornered animal with the gems, but was very sweet and playful around steven. seeing as some gems already wear skirts, its not out of the question that she might have worn a skirt in her uncorrupted form
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>>8722484
i'm gonna go ahead and say that if you're not thni, don't do that design. specifically because of the legs.
this is coming from a fat bitch so don't think i'm saying it to say "fatties can't cosplay!" but if you're even a little bit overweight your leg fat is gonna bulge out between the tight shorts and the tight leggings. its already gonna be a hard cosplay to pull off and people are already gonna make fun of it because it's not canon.
also the gloves covering one finger on each hand... isn't tht exactly what garnet has?
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>>8722577
ill admit im not super thin (US size 8) but im going to be wearing tights for her skin and shapewear underneath to prevent any unfortunate bulges. and eh, i've got a thick skin and im used to criticism, and i can brush off super aggressive anons like the one going apeshit over the other centipeetle. i think its a cute design and even if its nothing close to canon, it'll still be fun to do.
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>>8722607
enh, desu i'm not so sure about wearing tights to sub in for colored skin in this case. the fabe will end up bunching unless you're able to se it together in a way that's invisible.
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>>8722631
is your phone playing up again, desuanon
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>>8722638
okay i'm rarely on cgl and i post even more rarely, and i'm als crazy high.
please tell me what i typed that filtered to desu because i'm fucking losing it lmao. i had no idea this was a thing.
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>>8722631
tights and armsocks have been used and recommended for almost every character with brightly colored skin to avoid painting arms and legs though.. as long as the color matches, they're waaay better than painting. and what tights have you been using that bunch?
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>>8722643
You probably typed the abbreviation for "to be honest"

>>8722631
What kind of cheap tights bunch under tight fabric? If the tights are the right size they'll fit fine.
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>>8722645
well yeah, but it all depends on the clothing you're wearing over it.
i mean like if you're getting tights that are thick enough to really have the color pop out and look natural, they're gonna end up getting rubbed and moved around as you move around, and it'll bunch up a bit where the stockings lay over the tights.
i'm also just not a fan of armsocks or ights being used as a sub in for skin color. almost no one gets it to look good. i've seen tons of pictures of people using tights and armsocks, and i've only seen maybe 3 that didn't look exactly like you were wearing a bodysleeve.
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>>8722658
not trying to be rude, but i have no idea how tights would be rubbed to the point of moving around and bunching. i always wear dance tights for cosplays that show leg, and sometimes layer thigh highs on top of them, and ive never had any problems with it. ive also used armsocks multiple times before and as long as i color match correctly and put false nails on the end, they never are really obvious, and they're way better than going through the pain of painting your arms and potentially getting the paint on something
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>>8722658
Different anon here who has worn her fair share of dance tights and colored tights for both SU cosplays and homestuck. What you're describing just simply doesn't happen up on the thigh. Maybe it does if your tights are too big or cheap and stretched out, or I could see this maybe being a problem in the wrist/ankle area where the tights are loser, but thighs? Seriously, no, everything is stretched too tight to bunch up.
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>>8722484
also, could i get a few opinions on how to approach the fur around her neck? im using a wig for her hair, but should i also get wig fibres to use for the fur around her neck, or fake fur? it all looks like its made of the same material, but im not sure if it would be weird if it was made of wig fiber
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>>8723842
if you're going with designs similar to the crystal gems, lapis, i'd go with the fake fur as it looks more clothing-y
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>>8718828
According to the cosplayer they're PETG thermoplastic. She posted a tutorial on how to make them too. http://cowbuttcrunchies.tumblr.com/post/125556788422/weve-gotten-a-ton-of-questions-about-how-we-made
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'garnet inspired corset'
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>>8726899
Damn, that is some beautiful craftsmanship
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>>8726997
Dayum! Cool props!
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One of the best Pearls I've seen
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>>8727050
Last one
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>>8727037
that spear is unfortunate tho
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>>8727058
Yea, I think sewing is more her forte. But this was at NYCC so I can't say for sure if the spear is just poorly made. Or made to be allowed in the con as their prop ruling is such shit.
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>>8718699
Bless this man
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>>8718809
If only they were doing tiny peridot. Bathroom selfie would be so fitting.
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>>8727037
That spear is so bad, my god. At that point i would've just left that at home.
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>>8718753
Rose's hair looks like a gyaru wig.
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>>8721807
I really like these! It's nice when a SJW haven like SU gets good cosplay.
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>>8718753
she said she's selling the rose dress in a facebook group post and i just realized.. isn't this PP's dress (and maybe wig?)
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>>8729551
A picture for comparison
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>>8729579
Oh shit, youre right. Wow if she can sell this garbage for such a high price I should probably reevaluate.
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I really like this rose's wig
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>>8729860
idk personally I'm more into something looking a bit more 'hairy'. Pic related

This wig may have pretty good shape, but those curls look more like pink pipes than hair. You know what I mean?
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>>8730044
I feel the same way, anon. I've been working on my rose wig and it's a hard compromise between getting good ringlets and making it not look super stiff and unnatural
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>>8729860
>>8729855

Oh man that is good shaping!
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>>8730073
Oh my god, that looks amazing!
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>>8730095
thanks! i still may work on it a bit, but im pretty happy with how its turning out. im >>8711996, for reference, but that was before i worked on the wig at all
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>>8730150
That's a nice progress!
Also, I think that dress might look even better with a petticoat like that:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-2-Hoops-White-Long-Petticoat-Crinoline-Underskirt-Slips-Bridal-Wedding-Dress-/141736084405?hash=item21002103b5:g:j50AAOSwDNdVnLYA
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>>8731014
thanks! i actually bought a petticoat for it- it should look much better than it does in my first picture when it has a proper petticoat
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>>8717137
me
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i think this is >>8717137
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