New bad owner rage thread? Last one hit bump limit
>>2014924
Not sure if legitimately bad or just dumb.
>Have a grandma, grandpa died just over 2 years ago today.
>His last ~5 years were bad, she basically waited on him hand and foot.
>Naturally busy and caring person, she always had a hard time relaxing.
>After Grandpa dies, she adopts a dog.
>Holy shit this dog.
>Tiny ass Yorkie, less than 4 pounds.
>Looks like the one on the stairs, you know the one.
>She treats this thing like the last surviving member of its species.
>Carries him to go piss rather than walking him.
>She just ends the walk if they see any other dog or animal because she's afraid he'll go after it.
>Microwaves his food than adds her own diced meats to it.
>Puts him in a sweater, even indoors with the heater on.
>Bathes him weekly, even though he has no skin condition I know of.
>Leaves the TV on NCIS until she gets back home because otherwise "he panics and runs and hits his lil' head".
>It gets worse.
>[spoiler]She spoonfeeds this motherfucker.[/spoiler]
>[spoiler]Straight up scoops his food and lets the cheeky cunt nibble at his pleasure.[/spoiler]
>[spoiler]This takes anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes, longer if she's feeling lovey.[/spoiler]
>[spoiler]"But anon he don't know how to eat out of a bowl!"[/spoiler]
>[spoiler]He does know, I've tested it. Fucker gets indignant, but gives in after a while.[/spoiler]
I love my grandmother but this fucking dog. She has a chi also but he gets none of this treatment because he's a real dog. Fucking Oliver man. Little shit grins at me too.
>>2014924
>Be 10 or so, living in CT
>Move into a small neighborhood, maybe 10-15 families
>Find out a month in that a horse woman lives neighborhood; cats everywhere
>One day very scrawny cat is getting attacked by this orange behemoth of a tomcat
>Run out and shoo the tom away; scrawny calico hides under deck
>Leave out cat food
>She eventually just decides to stay; didn't both to name her, just called her "kitty" because I'm a creative ten year old
>Manage to trap her (safely) and take her to the vet with parents; get her shots and get her fixed because there's cats fucking (literally and figuratively) all over the place
>Vet asks where we found her, mention crazy horse lady
>A week later animal control shows up to horse lady's house
>No one ever noticed how bad it was because she lived at the end of the court a few streets away from us
>Had: Horses, dogs, cats, chickens, goats
>None were fixed
>3/4 horses she had died within 6 months of owning them
>Dogs had 2 litters of puppies (3 adults, 13 puppies between them)
>Chickens lived in literal shit, many were decaying and/or dying and/or sick
>Cats she didn't do jack shit for; none were fixed, no shots, just let them run rampant and have kittens
>What was left of the goats was being eaten by the dogs
>All animals repossessed (the living ones, at least)
>Tried to trap all the cats; almost got Kitty by informed them that I'd been taking care of her and got her fixed/shots/etc. and they left her
>Crazy horse lady still tried to sue animal control saying that they were wrong and that all of her animals were sick to begin with
No idea what happened to her after that. I still don't know where she got the money for half the animals, but fucking hell, she was terrible. The areas she kept the horses in was maybe, MAYBE the size of an average bedroom; no more than 650 sq. ft outdoors. The "stable" was literally a shed that one horse could fit it. They got in fights regularly. It was bad.
>>2014935
>The areas she kept the horses in was maybe, MAYBE the size of an average bedroom; no more than 650 sq. ft outdoors.
Fucking hell, that's not suitable for half a horse, let alone 4. What happened to kitty?
>>2014924
>Teaching puppy to heel, just adopted her from the shelter, maybe 3 months old at the time
>She gets really excited when she sees another dog, so I need to sit her down and tell her no and to wait
>Out walking and bam, before we even go a block there's this woman with what looks like a mentally challenged Bichon Frise
>engageexcitemode.jpg
>Puppy gets really excited and tries to greet the Bitchon
>I pull her back and tell his to sit and no
>Bitch lady walking Bitchon tells me that if my dog had gotten any closer she would have kicked her, and ordered her dog to attack as well
>I throughly wtf and explain that she's a puppy, i'm just trying to train her
>Bitch woman barks at me
>You read that right, she barks at me
>And walks away with her nose in the air
People are fucking weird.
Another when I was training her
>A few months have passed, my dog is pretty well trained at this point
>If I see another dog/person, have her sit long before they get near her
>Guy comes up with a labrador
>Lab flips. the fuck. out.
>I'm trying to keep my dog focused on me, and to be honest she is
>I try telling the guy that I'm training her to avoid getting excitable on walks and such
>"Oh it's cool my dog is friendly!"
>No it's not that I just want her to listen to me when I say so and to ignore other dogs and such
>Meanwhile his dog is trying to mount my (fixed) dog; apparently he never fixed his because it's "unnatural"
>Pull my dog away from this hump-happy lab and walk, saying goodbye to the man
>My dog seems fucking traumatized; avoid the fuck out of that dude to this day
>Hears he lets his dog hump whatever dog it wants because "Oh he's just being alpha!"
People. Honestly.
>>2014940
Yeah, I was pretty happy when her animals got repossessed. We were only there for a month when the "raid" happened. Apparently she had more horses before that, and the dogs more litters of puppies. It was ridiculous.
Kitty was good! She lived another 10 years! We didn't know how old she was when we decided to take care of her, but the vet guessed 5 or 6. She wasn't the friendliest cat but she was a great mouser and would love to sit by us. What was odd was that she didn't like to be pet *unless* she was eating.
I wish I had a picture of her, but this was before smartphones; any that I have are probably back in our CT house (we moved about a year after her passing).
>>2014943
Nice to hear at least one animal got out of that shit. Never known anybody that hoarder-esque thankfully, otherwise I'd probably steal their animals and get shot or arrested.
>>2014932
So that's why certain dogs at the shelter need to be hand fucking fed. God damn it.
Now if there was only an answer for why certain dogs need people to play with their food to eat it, or throw it on the floor for them to be interested
Relatively minor, but
>new guy moves in next door
>has black lab
>leaves it outside all day
>no walks
>no play
>only a shitty plastic igloo
>lab does barking marathons
>guys started to leave it outside at night too, almost called the cops because it was barking at 3 am this morning
What's the fucking point of even having a dog if you do this shit?
>>2014984
Digs used to feeding on scraps from careless cooking and prepwork. I feel like I'm being circled by sharks everytime I visit my mother. Sharks that ram my legs to get me to drop stuff or get all indignant if not tossed fat trimmings
Is it bad that I've seen so much shit I have to read other stories just to jog my memory?
>Animal hoarding case #1
>raid involved just indoor-only cats
>we get told that there are 50 cats living in an average sized house
>preparing cages at shelter when the vans roll in
>people carrying entire dog crates filled to the fucking brim with cats
>cats piled on top of other cats in large carriers, cat carriers piled on top of each other
>almost every single cat was a grey tiger; there were two black and white cats and one black cat
>in every cage that should hold 1 cat, we stuffed 2 in
>in every cage meant for 2 cats, we'd stuff 3-4 cats
>one cage we had meant for dogs had 15 fucking cats
>community rooms meant for cats that were cat friendly were sectioned off and used for cats
>we put upwards of 30-40 in each room
>mfw they told us 50 cats and came back with 143 cats, not including pregnant cats
>every cat was not much older than 2 years old
>every fucking female had kittens or was pregnant
>couldn't find matching moms for every kitten found, so they were piled on one of the few known mothers, one of whom was blind
>cats were giving birth every single day while the vets worked to gravid spay as many as possible
>many cats had eye wounds or infections and had surgery to remove eyes or were blind
>all cats had disgusting ears and mouths
>all of them were only semi-litter box trained
>we managed to get just about every single one adopted
The best part is, the people charged of animal hoarding had the same shit happen to them 2 years ago, they got all their pets confiscated, and they did the same shit again. That's why none of their cats were older than 2. I can not imagine how incredibly inbred those cats are.
Pic related; blind mommy cat and her babies all grown up. Because they were of varying ages, some of them were weaned faster and adopted before others
>>2014988
Call the humane society to report cruelty; you can't leave a dog outside 24-7 like that; that's fucking cruel
>On again off again fwb has a fat orange cat
>works at Starbucks 10 hours a day + school
>Lives in a small 1 bedroom shithole
>Doesn't have enough money to pay for cat's vet bills
>has to ask her parents for money
>says she's been going to the pound lately just to look at the dogs
>Adopts a sesame shiba puppy
>cant take it on walks
>cant afford to get it neutered or get shots
>CANT EVEN AFFORD THE PET DEPOSIT
>mfw
>stoner friend has a ferret
>whenever we hang out he brings it over to get it high
>told me he bought the ferret on a whim and kept it in a box in his closet for a week
>tells me "man, this is such a stoner ferret LOL! Look how chill he is after this hit!"
>tell him how sensitive ferrets lungs are
>tell him animals can't appreciate being high because they don't understand whats happening to them
>he brushes it off
At least he's stopped blowing so much smoke in its face since I said something. He also seems to take better care of it now than when he first got it, so I can't complain too much because the ferret DOES see a vet on occasion and at least gets play time. But still, I mean, I like getting high as much as anybody but I can't stand people that think animals want to be high too.
>mfw he grabs my ferret with a bong in hand
>>2015041
i had a ferret a few years ago (rip Shady the White Weasel '_'7) that would sneak drinks from peoples booze. she was free roaming, she had a cage that she chilled in but it was always open since she was the only pet in the house at the time. she was always the sort to come hang out when people came over, but one night i noticed her stumbling around and i got a little worried. turns out, she was drunk as fuck. she would wait for people to set their drinks down and then get wasted on the sly.
Is this exclusive to owners or also vets?
>Move away so I have to switch vets.
>Hear great things about vet clinic near my house.
>Dog happens to get a small fungus around his face because our new house still has some mold around some places.
>Receive awesome service, everything fixed in less than two weeks. Get my dog professionally groomed, so handsome.
>Fast forward one year.
>Dog unfortunately gets distemper, but can still be treated in spite of some neuro signs.
>New vet in clinic, automatically reluctant. Loud mouthed bitch even sounds proud when telling us that "YEP, IT'S DISTEMPER"
>Makes a bill, give us Zylexis canisters for subsequent shots, Gentadex because she saw his eyes were red and was most likely conjunctivitis and antibiotics for him.
>Zylexis is doing a good job, eyes are good.
>Suddenly downhill, third eyelid gets stuck, vet says we need to apply Gentadex 3 more days.
>Eyes get even worse, dog starts looking strength in hind legs.
>Ask for a second opinion at another clinic.
>Get told Inmunestimulants cause opposite effects and destroy t cells without helping the Myelin get restored.
>Get told Gentadex must never be administered in dogs in which no eye tests were performed.
>Get dispatched to the states best veterinarian ophthalmologist.
>Continued, before pic related.
>>2015075
>Lots of tests done to my puppers eyes, I have to help because he is visually uncomfortable.
>Eyes are tinted. Shitload of tint, signs for Corneal Ulcer.
>Start raging because you cannot apply Gentadex to dogs with Ulcers in their eyes because of the steroids in Gentadex.
>Specialist tells us the exact same thing, but adds the tear deficiency is also affecting his respiratory tract and can cause pneumonia to come back as he has a new infection.
>Explain to specialist that we have been trying to legally fuck the other vet to have them pay for the corrective surgery needed for his eyes and we need documents stating they fucked up.
>"I can't give you that.jpg" By the way, I can't do the operation because your dog may not hold the anesthetics.
>Retort to more pills to help him recover some health and become eligible for the operation, but prognosis is low as fuck by now.
>NDV vaccines are on the way as a last resort to help him stop the distemper virus and allow his body to work better to heal itself.
Pic related is his most affected eye right now. Surprisingly, the ophthalmologist said he can save his eye, but we need to bring my dogs health up to qualify him.
After we went out the clinic I carried and took him to a park nearby with a tree similar to the one he would dig a hole in back home and lay all day being happy, he looked so fucking happy for those 5 minutes, it's was so damn adorable, but I could also see how much he misses his tree and being able to stand on all 4's and go wherever he wants.
Just hoping NDV works.
I posted in a thread a while ago about my friends neighbor but this happened yesterday
>Be driving my friend home from school
>Traffic is weird and notice a dog in the middle of the road
>realize it is the neighbors dog that lets them "free range"
>Stop and try to help rangle it
>Old ass guy has stopped and is trying too and asks if it is our dog
>Friend replies, "My dogs dont walk themselves and certainly not in traffic"
>Dog eventually runs towards home
>Call animal control again
>"These dogs are going to die. She lets them out like they live on a farm"
>Animal control never shows up
I live in little mexico and these people don't give two shits about their dogs until someone tries to take them away.
>>2014924
Also, this happened a couple weeks ago.
>Same road driving down
>Mop dog in middle of street.
>Chase it to what I assume is an abandon house and leash it.
>It has collar and tags so call owner
>No answer
>Look at address.
>ITS THE HOUSE WE ARE IN FRONT OF
>ring door bell, random pit bull mix out of nowhere comes charging the fence.
>Whelp
>Take dog home and give it water and stuff
>Two hours later the most apathetic sounding woman calls me back saying that I found her dog
>Yes, come get it
>15 minutes later she pulls up and I hand her the dog and the leash and tell her her dog almost died in traffic
>"Oh lol, she hasnt gotten out in a couple weeks"
>Gets in car
>Boyfriend rolls down the window and says"We dont need this shit" and throws leash at me and drives off.
> Dog is probably dead now
>>2015081
>mfw that pic
It makes me so sad to see that happen, and makes me mad that she RECOMMENDED that shit., gah
Not 100% sure if it's rage-worthy because at face value, everything is still technically 'legal' at the barest minimum. But still worth a post
>last weekend
>hear that an old empty lot was bought out and now there's a dog locked up by itself in a cage
>wut
>decide to check it out
>see this german shepard all by itself in a small cage on a giant empty lot.
will cont. with more photos to come
>>2015103
Oh, what the fuck. Why the fuck is it trapped in a cage when the yard is fucking fenced
>>2015103
>>2015104
>had to jump the barbed wire fence for a closer look
>it's almost like a cell with the concrete flooring
>the dog's bedding consists of a torn mattress on top of a few blocks of wood
>food appears to be literally food scraps of bread just laid out on the floor.
>water is a giant bucket tied to the cage
>>2015104
I dunno, my next-door neighbors have a similar set up. Big fenced yard and they have a german shepherd but they keep her outside only, and keep her locked up in this concrete-floored kennel (maybe 10 feet x 10 feet?) in part of the yard for most of the time. Sometimes she gets to come out to play/interact with her owners when they come outside, but it doesn't happen that often. I feel bad for her.
>>2015107
Apparently the owners do visit, but how often is unknown. Some say daily but other neighbours say that might not be the case. other pics were yesterday and this one is from today so clearly someone has come but again, not a lot has been done.
Now this is where it becomes tricky. From a legal stand point, everything is okay. The dog is sheltered, feed and has access to water and bedding. Nothing much can really be done according to officials that's been called up not only by my family, but other neighbours around the area. Not only that, but even me just visiting the animal is illegal cause I need to jump a fence to get in and then I could get taken to court if the owners found out.
I have this fucking neighbor
>shady-looking mexican with a silver grille and tattoos of naked chicks on his neck
>he has a small backyard, fenced in
>within this fenced in backyard are 3x3 kennels
>has lots of labradors
>each kennel has 3 dogs in it
>there's probably 12 dogs total
>they bark all day and all night
>all the fucking time
>the whole neighborhood calls animal control on the dude regularly
>everytime his dogs get taken away, he gets new ones
>>2015119
idk. there's cans of dog food there now but is that's actually enough is rather uncertain. also the bread looks like shit too.
im in aus, victoria and like i said before, 'legally' everything checks out but at a bare minimum.
Rage story from my childhood
>For Christmas, my dad tries to buy our love with a brand new Golden Retriever puppy (pleb breed btw)
>2 weeks later he gives him away because he didn't like training and taking regular care of him
>>2015081
Wow, seriously fuck that vet. Hope your pupper gets better, anon
>>2015005
Unfortunately, if it has shelter, food and water, they probably won't be able to do anything because that's not illegal.
>>2014989
>>2014932
kek
>>2015446
>>2015098
>>2015096
Thanks guys, we got some legal matters in the works. Meanwhile, check out how much medication my dog needs to counter the effects of gentadex only in his eyes.
>>2015081
haha fuck that tree part is making me cry
>>2014990
>Is it bad that I've seen so much shit
Bad shit is going to happen regardless of whether you see it or not. It's a good thing if the reason that you've seen so much shit is because you were there to take care of it.
>>2015041
But certain dogs have lots of fun when they're high, you can tell through their body language. When something good happens to you and you don't know why, it's called serendipity, not cruelty.
>>2016003
weed can be toxic to dogs, don't be that kid who swears his dog is having "fun" while high when you likely don't have a damn idea
>>2016093
notice the "toxic" in "intoxicated."
there's never been a recorded dog death from weed smoke. Presumably it can't kill a dog.
>>2015103
The dog could very well be a fence jumper so it could be reasonable for it to not be out in the yard.
I mean everything else is still completely unacceptable but that one part might not be entirely retarded
>>2016093
>weed can be toxic to dogs
that's bullshit, there is no proper evidence for that
>>2016104
You know toxic doesn't have to mean deadly, right?
Shittons of stuff are fine for people, but bad for dogs. (onions, grapes, chocolate, avocados, weed, etc)
There's no reason to try to get a dog high anyway other than the want for a "lolsorandumbstonerdogeXD"
>>2016107
What bewilders me is that they went through the effort to create the enclosure with the concrete slab and the steel cage.
They couldn't do something like either making it bigger to at least include some grass or having a leash that can moving up and down the wooden fence there, like 10m across and only be able to go out away from the fence out by 5m or something if that makes sense.
>>2015041
>tell him animals can't appreciate being high because they don't understand whats happening to them
You don't have to understand what is happening to you to enjoy getting high. I've taken drugs that I didn't know how they worked and enjoyed it.
I know for sure some dogs like marijuana. I was hanging out with a friend and 2 of his dogs: a yellow dog and a brown dog. I offered the yellow dog some marijuana but she decided she didn't want to eat it. I offered the brown dog some and she ate half an ounce in front of the yellow dog. I offered the yellow dog some right after and she still didn't want any. Later on in the day the brown dog was stoned. It was more playful, hungry, and less coordinated. The yellow dog saw this and I offered the yellow dog some marijuana again. The yellow dog decided marijuana looked like fun and ate a 1/4 ounce. She started acting like the other dog. To this day both dogs will eat marijuana if you offer it. They wouldn't do this if they didn't like the effect.
>>2016117
the point I was trying to get through your thick skull is that all drugs are toxic. Everything is toxic in a large enough dose.
oxygen can kill you. So can water. anything and everything is toxic.
weed smoke is no more toxic to dogs than it is to humans. Eating weed oils can kill them. Pot brownies can kill them. Eating a stash of dank buds can kill them.
weed smoke can't kill them. It can't kill you either.
>>2016134
Just because they like it doesn't mean it's okay. What if I gave my dog PCP? What if I got my dog drunk? What if I shot my dog up with heroin so he could nod with me? Are these things okay as long as you don't OD them? Or is weed special and magical cause it's like... a plant man. In that case, replace the above with datura, psychedelic mushrooms, and opium.
>>2016114
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23216842
It's actually has caused two dog deaths, but it was a shit ton of medical-grade stuff. And it was ingested, not inhaled.
>>2016114
>>2016104
dogs dying from weed is on the rise in the US because more states are making it legal. Don't fucking give your dog (or any animal) weed dipshits.
I fucking swear, you fuckers are why it is so damn hard to get the only medication that helps with my chronic pain. Don't get me wrong, I also enjoy getting high for fun, but assholes like you make everything harder.
I had a pet rat who was very skittish. I was working hard on getting him tamed up, but one of my friends came over and said they could help. They blew some smoke in the rat's ear, and the rat froze up immediately and started breathing very quickly. From that point forward, he was very aggressive. He would lunge at any hands in his cage and throw himself at the bars trying to bite. I eventually gave him up as snake food since he was now unsuitable for being a pet. RIP little buddy.
>>2016150
I've seen dogs eat shrooms on their own.
It's just like stump huffer horses.
See? I can Apples to oranges too.
>>2015113
As an abuse story...its not the worst, but it is just really fucking weird.
>>2016161
Just because they'll eat them on their own doesn't mean they should eat them. I've had dogs who ate chocolate, vomited, and would go back for more chocolate. I'm not even sure they can make the association between getting sick with the food.
>>2016158
>dogs dying from weed is on the rise in the US because more states are making it legal.
sure. absolutely.
they have to EAT it though.
weed smoke won't kill them.
>>2016164
Yes, I am sure fucking SMOKE is fine for them.
>>2016134
>>2016003
>dogs
Dogs are not ferrets. Ferrets have very sensitive respiritory systems and should not be in an environment with lots of dust or smoke, hence why you can't use clumping cat litter for them. Blowing smoke at such a small animal is guaranteed to scare it and they can't even understand why their entire perception is suddenly different. If you get your animals high or drunk against their will, you don't deserve your pet. Exceptions can be made for the monkeys that drink fermented fruit, or dolphins that get high off pufferfish toxin, because those animals are intelligent enough to choose to become intoxicated for themselves, but putting a can of beer in your dog's water dish just to watch it stumble around confused is not funny, and is literally poisoning your dog for no reason other than "LOL ITS DRUNK!"
>>2016165
it's no worse for them than it is for you.
in fact it's probably much worse for you since you might actually live long enough to contract an environmental cancer while your dog is going to drop dead in less than 20 years whether they smoke or not.
>>2016150
>Just because they like it doesn't mean it's okay.
Now you're shifting the goal posts. The post I replied to said that animals can't enjoy being high because they don't understand it. I gave evidence that once a dog figured out what it did to them she sought to repeat the experience indicating she enjoyed it.
>Or is weed special and magical cause it's like... a plant man.
Weed is special because cannabinoids are difficult to get addicted to and have a high therapeutic index . I mean look at
>>2016152
All of those dogs ingested enough marijuana to scare their owners and the only two that died were ones who ate cannabinoids in a concentrated form.
>What if I gave my dog PCP?
Having never seen PCP I wouldn't know a thing about its safety. But as you've said it is your dog so have at it.
>What if I got my dog drunk?
Just don't let your dog drive. I don't know enough about the ability of a dog's liver to handle alcohol. I know cockatiels have small livers so I don't let mine get drunk.
>What if I shot my dog up with heroin so he could nod with me?
What makes heroin more dangerous than other opiates is the fact that you don't really know what's in it and you don't know what purity it is. So I would say if you had some pharmaceutical grade heroin and know how to dose it go for it. Just don't do it too often as to cause addiction.
>datura,
from what I've read I wouldn't expect a dog to enjoy datura. Datura plants also vary wildly in potency and the therapeutic index is much lower than marijuana.
>psychedelic mushrooms
If you could figure out what a safe dose was and could provide a safe environment for a dog to trip in I'd say go for it.
>opium.
A friend of mine had a rescued cockatiel that had been abused. I gave it 50ug of morphine. This allowed it to be handled with out causing it stress. When it sobered up it remembered the positive experience and was enjoyed being handled. Morphine is the major active component of opium.
>>2016163
>nature is wrong
Ok.
>>2016171
The thing is, we can choose to pollute our bodies with alcohol and smoke, our animal companions can't. As the caretakers of these animals it is our responsibility to give them the best lives we can, that includes keeping them in good health and making decisions for them based on that. Just because they'll die before we do is no excuse to intoxicate your pet, nor is the excuse "its bad for us too, so that makes it okay."
>>2016194
I think we need some stats on weed smoke and emphysema or cancer or any other health effects before we make that call.
if it doesn't harm them in any way then your argument comes up short.
>>2016196
Regardless, I still don't think we should be altering the mental state of animals that aren't aware they are being intoxicated. I can only imagine how stressful it is to be doing a normal thing and suddenly you can't control your limbs, or your vision becomes blurry. To have your perception of the world suddenly become wildly different must be stressful. Its our responsibility as animal caretakers to make our animals happy, healthy, and stress free.
Now, I will concede that weed isn't harmful, I smoke weed every day (praise be to snoop), but alcohol is literally a poison and harmful to the liver, and smoke is inarguably damaging to lungs. So, hell, give your dog edibles if he wants to get high, but I will never agree with blowing smoke in their face.
>>2016206
>give your dog edibles if he wants to get high
except that edibles are known to kill them while smoke is not.
>>2016208
I didn't know that edibles killed them, so clearly I was wrong on that point. I still don't agree with blowing smoke at them, though. Sorry. Maybe the best course of action is to not intoxicate your animals if literally every application of these drugs is harmful.
the moron ITT trying to justify getting his dog high is why everyone at our shelter cringes when some stoner kid comes in reeking of weed wanting a dog. fairly certain I've seen someone charged with abuse for getting their dog high for fun
>>2016196
>I think we need some stats on weed smoke and emphysema or cancer or any other health effects before we make that call.
pretty sure you should be seeking that information BEFORE giving your dog a possibly dangerous substance that could potentially cause them distress and disorientation. since the only actual scientific information we have now says it can harm them, then you should not do it. this is why anytime we give dogs at our shelter or clinic sedatives they're heavily monitored because the distress can cause heightened aggression and anxiety because they don't fucking know what's going on. it's why dogs waking up from surgery should be handled as little as possible. anecdotal evidence of a dog supposedly enjoying does not mean it's safe or smart to do
>>2016149
>my thick skull
That was my first post in the thread, but ok.
Obviously weed smoke isn't going to kill them, that was the entire point of what I was saying. lrn2comprehension
I'm saying it is retarded to do something to your animal that there is absolutely 100% no need for, that is only potentially harmful. Why the fuck would you make an animal smoke ANYTHING, let alone something thats known to kill them when they eat it? I swear the whole pets smoking weed thing is people projecting because their mom didn't like them smoking weed and said it was a gateway drug that would give you aids.
>>2016230
>the moron ITT trying to justify getting his dog high is why everyone at our shelter cringes
I don't get my dogs high and I don't do drugs.
I just like it when you guys pull some bullshit out your ass and try to pass it off as fact.
it's funny.
>>2016236
>I just like it when you guys pull some bullshit out your ass and try to pass it off as fact
I was saying the opposite, that if you don't have facts saying it ISN'T harmful, don't fucking risk it
>>2016248
and I was having fun with the people saying it's TOXIC like that's any reason to avoid something, and the people saying it's DEADLY when not a single dog has ever died from it.
you don't want to smoke your dogs up, that's fine. Just stop lying to justify your choice.
At my old house my neighbor was a cop. He had a pet cat that he kept in the house. It got old and sick and he put it outside because it was puking on his carpet. It's fur was also falling out. It was clear it was going to die. It decided to walk over to my house and meow at me through my back door. I offered it some milk and food but it was too nauseous to eat. I went out to my car and started hitting my bong. It came up and meowed at me. I let it in. I knew weed had anti-nausea properties so I spent an hour hotboxing it and listening to music. Then I offered it some food and it had a blast. I spent about a week smoking out a police officer's cat multiple times a day before he finally died.
That makes 3 animals I have safely given weed.
I'm beginning to wonder about that study. Maybe the edibles they made from butter were chocolate brownies and the dogs actually died from eating chocolate. I mean you have to eat a fuckton of marijuana to die. Either someone made super strong edibles or the dog ate a bunch or the food itself was poison. I don't know and it doesn't seem like the researchers were interested in figuring out how much had been consumed. They seemed more interested in starting a moral panic about dogs getting stoned because weed is legal and the world is coming to an end.
this happened when I was 8-12
>have neighbors from some third world shithole
>they get a kitten
>refuse to spay her because "they don't do that where they're from"
>cat basically lives outside, they just leave some cat food outside
>it attracts other cats in the area
>kitten gets pregnant at 6 months
>they think it's adorable
>gives birth, still lives outside
>they don't care for the kittens at all
>rinse and repeat
>the kittens are now having litters of their own
>occasionally see a cat that's been injured or run over
>rarely manage to catch one of the younger kittens, we usually either took them to a shelter or give them away as they weren't completely feral yet
>"owner" angry that we're "stealing her kittens"
>my mom manages to catch the original cat
>basically feral at this point
>takes her to get spayed
>neighbor furious that we're "destroying her femininity"
>the "owner" is still just leaving food outside
1/2
>>2016275
>neighborhood becoming infested with feral cats
>animal control won't do anything about it
>police won't either
>property values tanking
>cats are inbreeding now
>the neighbor refused to admit there's a problem
>they say they like having all the cats around because it's like where they're from
I moved away at this point for unrelated reasons, but kept one of the kittens and still have him. I kept in contact with a friend while they lived there and it was still the same for several years until they moved. They're still probably continuing the cycle.
>pic related, the cat we kept
>>2016275
>"destroying her femininity"
kek
>>2016253
>I was having fun with the people saying it's TOXIC like that's any reason to avoid something
so you're saying there's nothing wrong with giving dogs something known to be toxic to them? (because, yes, tetrahydrocannabinol is toxic to dogs) for what? "fun" that you don't know for certain isn't harmful? that's some backwards logic you got there
>>2016260
cat's lungs are extremely sensitive and even breathing in the secondhand smoke can kill them. you're ridiculously lucky
>>2016260
>you have to eat a fuckton of marijuana
Yes, a -human- does.
Also a cat that died a week later is a terrible example. I mean obviously the weed didn't kill it, but still.
>>2016282
People laugh about countries who eat cats.
It's no joke, yo.
>>2016303
>so you're saying there's nothing wrong with giving dogs something known to be toxic to them?
yep.
I'm literally telling you that everything every animal consumes is toxic in some quantity,
AND you're too stupid to understand that.
which is funny.
stupid people are amusing.
>>2016309
Glad to know that everything being potentially toxic means nothing is. Time to go to chernobyl and eat bunch of dart frogs while I fuck the elephant's foot.
>>2016321
>Glad to know that everything being potentially toxic means nothing is.
both statements are true. It depends entirely on the dose. Again, these are concepts well above your capacity to understand.
>>2016306
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/nc/nc1e_2.htm
>The minimal lethal dose orally was between 225 and 450 mg/kg.
For a 50 pound dog 225mg/kg is 5.1kg. At 20% potency a dog would have to eat 25kg of marijuana. So it would have to eat more than its body weight. I'd say that dogs have to eat a fuck ton of marijuana to die and that any claim that a dog did die of marijuana consumption should be viewed critically.
>>2016331
>any claim that a dog did die of marijuana consumption should be viewed critically.
they've been dying by consuming edibles with concentrated mj oils or by eating hash. Edibles in particular have been a problem where the stuff is legal. A dog can pretty easily consume a fatal dose if we're talking about a batch of brownies that's intended to make, say, 500 normal human doses.
I dunno about "bad owner", but...
>Be youngish (early teens maybe, not too long ago)
>Be at aunt's house
>They have this sweet old cat
>Getting pretty old at this point but he holds his own
>Been with aunt's family since he was a kitten, over a decade
>Anyway, at her house, in the kitchen
>Uncle walks inside, lets the door close behind him
>Door catches the cat coming in, he squeals and runs off into the house
>I'm all worried the cat's been hurt
>Aunt: Did you hurt him? I don't want blood on anything.
I mean, fuck, woman, it's not like that's the beloved family pet that you've had since before your kids were born. Fuck if it isn't bleeding to death in pain and misery as long as you don't have to pull out the carpet cleaner.
He was fine though. Died a year or two later in his sleep, curled up under a bush on a nice summer day. Cute thing.
>Mom adores dogs
>Particularly Pitbulls
>We have 5 in our small house
>She sees nothing wrong with this
>Mother, Father, 2 daughters, and a puppy who's a few months old
>The daughter starts attacking the mother
>These incidents are more frequent
>Beg mom to find the daughter a new home
>She refuses, calling me heartless
>16th birthday
>We all go out
>Mother and Dad out and about in the house
>2 daughters in cage
>Come home
>Blood everywhere
>Daughter got out of its cage and attacked the mother
>Mother is short and fat, poor thing didnt stand a chance
>She's laying by the door covered in blood
>Have to take her to the vet
>They decide to put her down
>She proceeds to come home and treat the daughter like complete shit: doesn't give her attention, hits her, locks her in a cage for no reason
>The same thing happens again but with the two daughters
>She still does nothing
Luckily the guy she was dating at the time took one of them, but goddamn how can someone be so willing for their house to be a blood bath.
>>2016399
I was in a similar situation with my girlfriend's parents. So I ended up cutting the kennel , throwing one in my car and driving it 4 states away so she could live a better life.
>>2016260
Good fucking god I cannot believe I have to share this board with slimy pothead morons like you.
I'm fucking embarrassed for you.
>>2014932
>>Looks like the one on the stairs, you know the one.
Lost my shit
>>2016333
Yeah let's say 500 normal human doses. 1g of 20% potency marijuana is enough for a single human dose. So that's 100g of THC. That's about 2% of the lethal dose for a 50 pound dog. Meanwhile every brownie I've eaten has been chocolate and chocolate is poisonous to dogs and this theoretical dog just ate 500 theoretical brownies. I think we have to think critically about what the real cause of death was.
>>2016499
> So that's 100g of THC.
Which is only about 10 edible gummies. I know a lot of dogs that would/ could consume more than 10 gummie bears.
>be me
>live in an apartment
>never had a dog but really want one
>adopt a border collie from the pound, not really knowing much about the breed
>do research and learn that they're the one of the most energetic breeds and that they aren't for beginners
>oh fuck
i quickly realized what i had gotten myself into. now every day we jog to the dog park for off leash playing and then walk back, it's two miles. we also do lots of clicker training and i wanna teach her everything i can.
i did a bad owner thing but im good now right
>>2016330
Put your trip back on and kill yourself Bugguy
>friend gets a 3 month old kitten for our apartment
>puts out one huge bowl of food until cat finishes it then refills it
>regardless of time
>shit pisses me off
>have told him 300 times that the cat's going to get diabetes or be a fat shit
>doesn't care
>cat's food bag sits right out in the open
>cat breaks into it and tears it open obviously
>friend proceeds to put broken bag in cardboard box to avoid mess
>see cat in box every now and then getting free snax
>tfw this cat is fucked
What can I tell this guy to make him realize how fucked his cat is? And just how much will cats overeat if given the opportunity?
>>2016743
fine.
I'm not bugguy, guys. He's banned I think.
this is basic toxicology though.
everything is toxic in a large enough dose.
nothing is toxic in a small enough dose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dose_makes_the_poison
>Sophomore in HS
>Go to art class one day and there is this big dog in the room
>Teacher said she found him roaming in the parking lot, and was going to take him to the vet after class
>Really take a liking to him
>Call my mom and ask if we can keep him
>Said yes
>Take him home
>literally the best dog ever
>Take him to the vet next day to get him checked out
>dog is a fucking 3 month old irish wolfhound
>he also had heart worms that were so bad that they couldnt treat
>ended up having to put him down
Sorry about the filter, this is the only picture I could find of him
I miss my little Hank so much
>>2016737
Thank Mr Metric. This what happens when I use calc.exe instead of pencil and paper. So about an ounce of 20% potency marijuana could kill my dog. Now the studies make more sense.
>>2016748
It's an easy mistake to make. I've done it more than a few times.
>>2016744
I know, but you're approaching toxicity exactly the same way bugguy approached "DOGS ARE FISH" garbage.
Sure almost nothing is toxic in a small enough dose but its retarded to go around saying "chocolate and weed and drain cleaner isn't TOXIC to dogs guys because a dog could technically ingest a small enough amount it wouldn't kill them".
>>2016753
>its retarded to go around saying "chocolate and weed and drain cleaner isn't TOXIC to dogs guys because a dog could technically ingest a small enough amount it wouldn't kill them".
yes.
It's equally retarded to say "you shouldn't feed your dog water or oxygen or weed smoke because it's TOXIC!"
The fact is none of the things I listed is going to kill a dog or even make them sick in any normal amounts they might encounter.
>>2016179
Consume nightshade please. It's nature how can it be wrong. Give them some grapes too, those are natural.
>>2016753
>"DOGS ARE FISH" garbage.
also, just to set the matter straight,
dogs belong to any clade Osteichthyes (Euteleostomi). Osteichthyes is of course bony fishes.
so dogs are fishes in the truest taxonomic sense.
>>2015122
Tell local shelters his full name and the story and how he consantly gets new dogs, they'll (usually) start to not allow him to take in any dogs.
>>2016739
I actually don't have an issue with overeating for either of my cats; I measure the recommended amount out and leave it out all day, and sometimes they still don't eat it all. Plus, a 3 month old kitten pretty much needs to eat a shit ton, so it's not too serious yet. Tell him to find a more secure place for the food and get a measuring cup as a scooper so he can be more accurate with the amount, though
>>2014932
Your grandmother is coping with loss friend.
She's essentially giving the same care to the Yorkie that she did to your grandfather, because in her mind, she's still not willing or able to say goodbye.
This isn't owner, but this happened last night.
>Sitting watching football with my dad
>Eating ribs, enjoying the game as per the usual Monday night
>Goes to half-time, and naturally a commercial comes on
>"Buy a new Ram vehicle, and we will pay for the adoption fee on any animal you want from the (Where I live) Humane Society! Completely paid, and just remember, any one you want!"
>Cheeky fucking grin and wink as the commercial ends
Made me pretty upset.
>>2018050
in 08 they were giving away brand new dodge avengers with any purchase of a new ram. I happen to have one of each from that year.
just thought it surprising how much the incentives have shrunk.
>lady comes in to look at dog
>first starts to scream commands at the dog, like if she speaks loud enough the dog will learn English
>try to explain training but she interrupts and speaks over me
>dog begins to jump on her, she's screaming and shoving him off
>now thinking we are playing, dog jumps on me. I swing my body weight to get him off
>she asks why I am letting him jump on me, and tells me he is more dominant than I am
>Dog goes back to jumping on her, she knees the dog to get him off
>"y'all gotta be dominant, like did"
>she kicks the dog, not too hard to break any ribs but still
>dog is in full fuck it mode and starts jumping/mouthing me like maniac
>bring the dog in as soon as I can get him to stand still
Needless to say based on her ignorance and lack of motivation to learn how she should be training, she was refused adoption
Halloween night, around 8PM. Just got a haircut, feeling so good. Have a kind of a "fuck you" attitude since I work in retail and I have to politely tell customers to go fuck themselves.
Walking down the block I see what I can only describe as a fluffly Rottweiler but black and white, didn't really look at it cause I was just like "what the fuck," just strolling by. 10ft later a Spanish chick walks by and I ask "is that your dog?" She says "don't worry he's friendly and trained." I go "oh ye, oh ye? Put your dog on a fucking leash!" She stops and gives me that Spanish "excuse me?!?" Repeat the same shit and walk away.
Fucking put your dog on a leash!
I'll bump this thread more
>friend tells me about this cat he 'rescued'
>ask about it, it's a kitten he grabbed out of someone's yard
>tell him I can bring the kitten to the shelter, since it's the end of kitten season people will die for it
>refuses, assures himself animal shelters euthanize all animals they get in
>ask about his other cat and how it's not fixed
>'it'll be fine, anon, I'll get her fixed'
>months rolls by, he doesn't get her fixed
>complains about money issues, while he has an above minimum wage job, lives with his parents, doesn't pay bills or rent
>I see this nigger buy hundreds of dollars worth of cosmetic items on steam
>explain that if he sets half of 2 paychecks aside and not buy shit for f2p games he could fix one of his cats
>he gets angry at this and thinks I'm calling him an abusive owner
>drop it for a while, he comes back and tells me he has 8 kittens now and he's so proud and happy
>i come over to see cute little kittens while he tries to sell them to me
>dumb nigger lets the male go out, and he brings fleas into the house and the kittens are infested
>kittens are thin but are bloated with worms/other parasites, mother cat has worms and liquid poop
>kittens are very ill with something; eyes are forcibly closed with yellow gunk, noses clogged with boogers
>tell him he should bring these cats to a vet, he gets upset at me again for accusing him of abuse
>later he tells me an 'asshole' friend of his called the cops about his kittens and they took them away, starts going off about how unfair it is
>tells me they were taken because they had 'some fleas' which he treated with adult cat flea bath so it should have been fine and everyone is over-reacting
>explain that adult flea bath can poison young kittens, he tells me I'm over-reacting
>luckily, this talk comes with the news that his parents paid to get his male cat neutered
>still not convinced his female won't get pregnant again
Here's a good quickie
>Couple brings in young kitten
>just by it's reactions, I can tell something is fucked up
>they told us they found this kitten on the street and wanted to keep it, because hey free kitten
>they dipped it in a flea bath to get rid of the fleas
>they OD'd the kitten on the flea bath, they said it had a seizure, pissed itself, the whole bit
>after the episode, the cat seemed to be completely blind
>they didn't want a blind kitten though, they wanted a free, healthy kitten
>they didn't want to take care of a blind cat that they had made blind, so now we have it
But the story has a good ending
>kitten eventually recovers eye sight
>kitten is adopted by much better people
>tfw I wasn't around to tell the adopters about the kitten's past
>tfw they will never know
>>2014924
Basically anybody that owns a creature that requires a cage or a tank at all times.
Rodents are fine. They can run around and chill outside and frequently come and go as they please.
But aside from that, if you HAVE to cage it then you have no business owning it. Its not a pet, its a decoration. A hobby. And you are holding it captive.
>>2019172
I hope he is not your friend any more
>>2019178
This
>>2014932
That's just overly nurturing, don't be an edgy kiddie faggot about it.
>>2014932
>Looks like the one on the stairs, you know the one
>>2019178
birds can fly around and chill outside of their cage too, and come and go as they please so...how are rodents different than that exactly?
>>2019178
I have 2 budgies that I rescued.
Leave the cage open 24/7 and they fly around the bedroom all day.
They were never trained but since they seem happy to just have each other I didn't see the need. They are more decoration than companion but again, they are happy, healthy and safe so what's bad about the arrangement?
>>2019178
I don't want my turtle accidentaly eating my carpet okay?
>was little kid living in crappy town full of natives
>lived in apartment/townhouse thing, parents got a kitten.
>old lady next door loved the kitten and seeing us play with it.
>left town and parents asked old lady to cat sit
>old lady went out one night and left cat at home with early 20s son
>son has party at her house
>son and fucked up friends kill kitten and cut it open and shit
>old lady was horrified, charged son with animal abuse
>laws changed in British Columbia around animal abuse because of my kitten
>>2019178
my "decoration"
A friend of mine owned three big dogs, but kept them in a small laundry because they were too big to play around her small children. I made a call to the local RSPCA to have a check on them. One dog was taken away, so she replaced it with another one. After the threat of having all of them taken, she now let's them out for longer and only puts them in the laundry when guests are over.
The dogs never go for walks but seem happy enough.
Still don't think she should have dogs.
>>2016504
You're good.
>>2016739
I've had my cat on full feed since she was 6 weeks old. 8 years later, and she's still not fat at all (just mostly hair).
>>2016745
I remember when I went to college, I saw a guy with 2 of those huge ass things dragging him down the sidewalk like he wasn't even there...
>>2019645
what the fuck...
>>2016260
Soo you couldn't have taken this old, sick cat to the vet? it might have had an illness that was treatable, instead you just sat in a car smoking with it.
>>2016755
>>2016761
>going for a walk
>see a tiny hutch in the neighbours' front lawn
>a miserable rabbit is sitting inside, staring at me
>have to see this poor thing with its tub of food and water every time I want to go for a walk.
I have two pet rabbits at home, and holy fuck this upsets me so damn much. If my mum found out, she'd probably just steal the rabbit.
>>2019674
beautiful looking bird anon
>>2019674
You're an awful person
Recently aquired this little git, cute little thing, begs for attention and enjoys snuggling up under a blanket with you to watch films.
>move in to student house
>notice scrawny lethargic tabby hanging around
>assume is stray, start feeding her
>eventually coax her to settle with us, is clear she was once a house cat and rarely wants to go back out
>is deaf as a post so she dosen't mind us being loud, loves people, perfect party cat.
>feed her up, take her to vet, flea treat her
>mouth full of rotten teeth, £400 plz
>wutlol, poorfag students, can't afford this
>a few days later people moving house next door
>turns out she was owned by the old lady there who died
>daughter acts shocked to see cat is still alive
>tells us she's like 17
>tells us she still owns two of her sisters
>strieght up says she couldn't be bothered to take her home, so she just left her locked outside hoping the neighbours would put food out
>dosen't offer to pay vet bills or even ask
>next day gives us a bag of dry kibble that she can't eat because of her teeth
>last we hear of her
So now I'm stuck with this lovely old girl, who needs most of her teeth extracting, which would leave me with a bill I can't afford. Also I'll possibly be moving again next year, and I doubt I'd be able to take her with me. We're lucky our landlord here is so relaxed and knows the cat, even though we technically aren't allowed pets. I've looked in to getting help through the PDSA for her teeth, but I don't know what to do about rehoming a 17 year old cat. Sad thing is she's still in good health otherwise, and still plays, climbs and bounds about the place like a kitten.
>pic related, Daisy
>>2019674
Considering how much you talk about your bird, I shouldn't be surprised that you browse /an/ too but for a second I forgot what board I was on.
>>2019674
Clearly mistreated, depressed and undersocialised. You monster. How could you.
>10/10 top birb, would allow to perch on finger
>>2019996
Get hold of the PDSA for her teeth- I know you've already mentioned it, but honestly- they're there for these sorts of reasons. As for rehoming- why not take her with you? Or send an email around at uni?
>>2020043
>Get hold of the PDSA for her teeth
Yes they're very good, the vet I spoke to also suggested them. Like you said they're there for people with pets on low incomes, so I hope they'll be able to help.
>send an email around at uni
Thats a good idea, I'm sure someone will want a chill older cat that likes to cuddle, I'll post an ad up on my uni's facebook, could stick up some posteres around the place too. If I could I would take her with me, but the problem is most student accomodation isn't pet friendly, we're lucky here as I said because our landlord is really understanding. Going to check to see if there are any shelters and foster homes near here that will take in elderly cats too, I'd like to see her go to a nice home where she can live out the rest of her years in comfort. I may be staying here anyway, in which case I'd have no need to rehome her, but I'd like to make sure I have a plan just in case.
Fresh OC:
>>2020053
>Two years ago, son of mom's friend finds several day old kitten in engine of car he is repairing
>Even though the son claims the kitten as his own, his mom asks my mom to nurse it back to health for a few months until its strong enough to be slightly independent
>My mom is a pro at this, having fostered many cats for their future permanent homes
>Problem is that the son is a worthless shit who already owns a rhodesian ridgeback with food aggression, territorial behavior, and is just a complete fucking monster
>My mom spends several moms to laborously care for this kitten
>It's ready to spend more time with the son
>The first night it's with him, the dog gets loose and eats the fucking kitten
>My mom is heartbroken
>The son is now nose broken, because I wrecked his shit and nearly snapped his dogs neck right in front of him, because the fucker shouldn't even be alive in the first place
>Neighbors are a married cop couple who are never home
>Have this big brown lab named Jeb
>Leaves Jeb to roam neighborhood all day since they aren't there
>They adopt another puppy, a bulldog, and keep it inside
>Pay tons of attention to bulldog, taking care of it but they still leave Jeb to wander
>Neighbors start feeding Jeb
>8 year old me befriends Jeb and I become his source of ham slices
>Everyone loves Jeb except for his actual owners
>Taken in by mechanic neighbor
>Years pass and Jeb becomes old
>Neighbor puts Jeb down, owners still don't care
>Neighborhood loses beloved guard dog
>>2019952
Steal it, faggot.
>>2019954
thanks
>>2020036
just a terrible person...
>>2019178
What about lizards?
Although to be fair, they can't really be domesticated...
>>2020200
That is one of the happiest birds I've ever seen
>>2020060
I like you. Great job. :-)
How do people become shit owners? Fair enough you might do some bad shit here and there it is human but some of these stories are just baffling. If you have over 100 cats or you animal is quite rotting to death how can you think "Yeah this is normal, this is ok".
>>2019952
Pretty much the same thing with one of my neighbors cept it has a German Shepard keeping it company. The Shepard usually sits beside the hutch and the rabbit is always really close to it.
It is a weird Shepard I have seen it chilling with a pony before too.
How big should the hutch be? This is about the size of an average cardboard box and gets moved around their garden every so often.
>>2015072
LMAO!!! We had a miniature american eskimo who would do the exact same thing with our Mom's Irish Cream every christmas while she decorated the tree!
>>2016093
Humans can also die from alcohol poisoning. Does that mean giving your best friends a sixpack at a party is morally wrong?
>>2020221
I know, its weird. Its almost as weird as those people who chose to be homeless and filthy instead of just getting their shit together and buying a house.
>>2020221
Most of these people have a very low IQ or were raised to believe animals are nothing. Add onto that human laziness and greed (wanting a pet even though you can't take care of it) and it explains all of the problems.
>>2020239
Thats a retarded comparison Homeless are in a pit and it is very difficult to get out. These people who mistreat their animals yet continue to get more can simply not get more or get rid of the animal, animals have some sort of alternative. Homeless are just ignored.
The majority of bad owners seem oblivious to the situation.
>>2020221
People who have over 100 cats are hoarders and suffer from mental illness/are likely severely depressed. They live in shit themselves, so they upkeep the same standard for their pets.
Otherwise it's just plain ignorance and laziness. Many well-meaning pet owners fail to care properly for their pet because they skip reading up on it or learning its proper needs.
>>2020236
Maybe if you know that he doesn't know his limits and often drinks to the point of alcohol poisoning. Dogs can't just stop or tell you when they have had enough. They have no idea what's going on
>>2016114
Evidence would require dosing tons of dogs to death with weed, do you realy want that?
An LD50 test would require that they be dosed untill their stomach rupture and die.
How about simply not including your pets in "lmao weed420 blaze it"
>>2020290
Not the anon you're replying to and I don't support getting your pets high, but cannabis has never been proven to cause death in ANY animal, because the required amounts to make someone OD would be insane. There has been several experiments carried out with rats and chimpanzees, they die from inhaling the smoke, not THC.
A dog could get sick and nauseous from being high though. And animals can get addicted like humans too. It's not fair to your pet to force them to become addicted to a substance they can't control or understand just because you enjoy it yourself.
>>2020293
They can also experience mental distress such as panic and that borders animal abuse.
>Shitty half-brother gets married (shotgun wedding)
>Crotch demon awakens
>They need live animals for it to play with
>go thru multiple dogs and a few cats
>"This dog jumps too much, we have to get rid of it"
>dumbfuck proudly tells me about how he threw their kitten across the room once because it was meowing at him while he was trying to sleep
>"you should have heard it hit the door!" guffaw guffaw
>I came unglued on him
>chewed his ass
>How is he going to treat his son if this is how he treats animals?
>They got rid of all their pets, got wiener dog
>dumbshit has mental breakdown, alienates whole family, wife divorces him, takes kid and dog to her parents
Thanks to this thread I'm more secure in my belief that Stoners are dumb irresponsible slimebags.
(And by stoner I don't include people who enjoy casually using weed but aren't cunts about it)
>>2020215
i'm sick all the time, so i have a lot of time to spend with her, and to do shit like prepare food for her and whatnot...
>>2020371
eh i'm definitely a stoner... i smoke weed pretty much every day (and do other shit + drink) multiple times a day, and me stopping tends to be me running out... but i don't give animals my shit, or even let it affect them...
like with my birds? i change clothes, smoke outside, and then wash my hands and face and clean up + change again before i touch them so i'm not covered in any of that... every time, and they never even stay in the same room as the clothes i smoked in, and i do the same when i have a cigarette...
but i do know people who smoke with their pets or let them have alcohol... and some of them really do actively try to get in on that shit...
>>2015136
Reminds me of that anon who said that his dad gave him a tortoise(or was it a turtle?) and soon afterwards killed it in front of him to teach him a "life lesson".
>>2020371
Anybody who identifies themseves as a stoner I've genrally found to be an idiot. There are exceptions like >>2020383 who understand its something they do out of personal choice, but you also get a lot of dumbasses like >>2016260
who see it as totally fine to give it to anything and everyone "becuz its nature". I also have an issue with anyone that over indulges on something to the point that being sober is the exception for them. It stops being about enjoying it and by that point is just a depndance. Unless you need it for medical reason, I don't see the point in being stoned all the time, unless you're relying on it because of some personal issue.
>>2020383
Yeah... I think blowing weed smoke in your pet's face to get it high for laughs is very selfish thing to do , but i have to admit I sometimes smoke when my rats are free-roaming and they choose to jump up on my couch and sit on my shoulder get stoned.
My grandparents had a budgie that enjoyed itself by sticking its head into people's drinks and beers to have a sip. When everyone had left it would go from glass to glass and get a bit tipsy. Well.... one day my grandma found it DROWNED in glass of beer. It had been sitting on the edge of it and stuck its head down to drink like usual, but must have tripped somehow and ended up head-first in the glass instead :(
>>2020424
Disregarding the budgie story, just because I think somone might actually be capable of being this dumb, rats will drop dead of a respiratoy infection overnight. Dust, damp air, drafts, sudden chainges in temperature, even the wrong bedding can set off a uri for them, do not let them breathe in smoke for gods sake. When I had them, I went outside to smoke.
>>2014924
>have a neighbor that recently moved in
>animals start appearing out of nowhere over a series of weeks
>DOZENS of fucking goats
>two horses show up, as does a small fenced area
>maybe about the size of 2 bedrooms
>no hay, no grass, no shelter
>halters left on all the time
>after about two weeks of this, the very old and very fucked up looking horse disappears and I'm still suspicious
>have to drive by it every fucking day knowing the ASPCA wouldn't do shit
>>2020433
bonus neighbor complaint:
>come home, 3 unneutered pitbulls show up in my neighbors yard
>friendly but I know they aren't his
>see somebody driving down the street calling for their dogs
>knowing they physically can't retrieve their dogs without extensively trespassing, I decide to offer my help
>run up to gate and tell them that their dogs are in the neighbors yard and say I can help them
>they stare blankly for a moment
>they reverse their car down the road as fast as they can
>come back about 20 minutes later
>fat bitch trying desperately to get 100 lb pitbull over barb-wire fence
>calls boyfriend or husband who proceeds to break the fence to get the dogs
Nevermind that all of their dogs would be dead if my neighbor's dogs had been out.
>>2020432
I know anon and I am stoner scum. All of my rats have lived to be 3 years of age and never had upper respiratory problems though.
>>2020434 It continues:
>decide to take a few vet tech classes
>there's a shitload of small animals in the back room of the class
>Syrian hamster being kept in one of those generic plastic dwarf hamster cages
>3 gerbils (two females, one male) being kept in a maybe 7 by 7 inch cage with a 3 inch wheel
>all of them have no tails because they've chewed them off from boredom
>adult rats being kept in tiny plastic critter cages
>have to separate gerbils, buy hamster a new cage, relocate rats, plus adopt some of them
>decide to visit the middle school across the street because I personally know the vet teacher there
>7 rats
>all of them in the same hamster cages
>have to take an elderly rat with extreme respiratory issues and a pregnant rat because he was going to let them go
bonus complaint about myself:
>tfw i now have 15 rodents in my very small room because I felt bad for them
>the female managed to chew out of her cage while the males were out and now she's pregnant again
>all of my rats, hamsters, mice, and cats now have fleas and/or mites because the ones I took from my vet classes had them
I need furry Jesus; this has gone too far for me to handle. I don't know anybody with snakes big enough to fix my rodent issue. I'm having a friend of mine take some of my animals for a while because I am way over my head.
>>2020437
Well if you know then don't do it... Just because it hasn't happened yet dosen't mean you aren't putting them at risk. Not all smokers get cancer, but they're at higher risk of it. Honestly how hard is it to go outside, or even just smoke in a different room.
>One day brother randomly comes up to me saying he wants a dog
>Tell him fuck no, no one in this house has the time to properly care for one
>He gets one anyway
>Since no one has the time to care for her, she shits and pisses on the floor unless our old man is staying with us because he's the only one who doesn't leave the house all the time
>She's fat as fuck and everyone in the house but me and one other is feeding her table scraps
>But at least she's chill with me, can pet her and share a bed with her
>After a while, dog is no longer friendly with me
>Growls at me when I try to pet her
>Start leaving her alone, but not without noticing that her friendlyness is proportional to how much food she gets off the table
>Her begging habits get worse, she fucking barks at the table constantly for food
>Even worse, she's getting fatter
>Bring it up, "it's clearly that new weight loss food you put her on"
>Somehow my brother decides another dog is a good idea, didn't even consult me before bringing her home
>Same problems, minus barking
Whenever my old man isn't here I have to be careful to not accidentally step in dog shit in my own house. I can't eat without being barked at. And to make it worse one dog is eating herself to death. The worst part is this is really hurting my perception of dogs even though I know this behavior is the fault of the retards who continue to feed her off the table and of course, decided to get dogs even though no one has the fucking time for them.
>>2020443
This is the same as the hoarders who live in shit and allow their pets to live in the same shit because that is their standard of living. Stoners and drug addicts know it isn't healthy to get high every day, but they still do it, they also most likely know it isn't good for their pets either, but that's how they live their life, so that's how their pets are going to live too.
Like obese people with fatty dogs. If I can eat gravy every day, why shouldn't my pet? If I can enjoy toking up, why shouldn't my dog?
Reminds me:
>Stoner friend
>Has two German Shepherds
>Smokes heavily inside while the dogs are laying on the couch or on the floor in the same room.
>These dogs are ALWAYS high
>Constantly sleeping and salivating, droopy eyed, both are overweight. Stoner dogs.
>I tell him he shouldn't do that around them, animals can't say yes or no
>"Nah anon, they like it. They don't want to leave the room."
Well sure I don't doubt it. A dog would also love to eat a whole pizza each day if you let them, that is where you as the owner step in and make the right choice for your pet.
>>2020415
i'll be honest, i only enjoy being sober when i've been wasted so long it feels like an altered state of mind... weed helps with chronic pain and nausea and i need that, but i was smoking weed and shit for a long time before...
>>2020424
i'm neurotic so i cover cups all the time anyway so there's no way my birds could get to anything i drink, but i also don't drink alcohol around them cuz i know alcohol can kill them...
idk anything about rats, but with the birds i stopped smoking indoors, stopped using incense and candles (i use shit like herbs in one of those chocolate melting pots that plug in + water now instead), stopped using nonstick stuff etc ... even changed the cleaning stuff i use for them... doesn't seem worth the risk
>>2020453
>i'll be honest, i only enjoy being sober when i've been wasted so long it feels like an altered state of mind...
See thats what I don't get. Whats even the point if you're just so used to it NOT being high feels strainge. You aren't appreciating it anymore, its just something you do because you can't not. Thats become your normal world to you.
>weed helps with chronic pain and nausea and i need that
Thats fair enough though, if its something you need to manage a chronic condition, then you can't really help that. Plus its a heck of a lot better for you then many prescription pain killers.
>>2020452
>feed yellow lab marijuana regularly
>9 years later she's 12 years old and in good health
>labs live to be 11-13 years old
>mfw
>giving a dog demon's weed is like feeding her pizza every day.
Oh, I see the error of my ways. I should have fed her more pizza. She would be super healthy now.
>>2015095
Mexican also in meXian neighborhood here. Can confirm my community does the same, hopefully it's not chipped and you can catch it and turn it in to a shelter next time. Hopefully they don't give enough of a fuck to look for it
>>2020464
Why do you feed her it? Just for the hell of it? Because that's just plain weird.
>>2020463
well it makes being sober enjoyable then, and i switch shit up, i hit points where weed just doesn't get me high and then i gotta do other shit instead... i just don't prefer sobriety, and i enjoy drugs... i mostly just smoke weed cuz it's not as addictive as the shit i prefer and can't do as often
and now i'm in a position where smoking also helps physical issues...
i just can't bring myself to be the kinda person who says that i only smoke cuz it helps with chronic pain and nausea... part of the reason now, but i'd be lying if i pretended shit would be different if i wasn't sick
but i mean it's like sex, i enjoy it so i have it as often as possible... i enjoy drugs so i do them as often as possible
>>2020467
Same reason I pet her and give her a little bit of peanut butter. She enjoys it.
>>2020470
Eh, I'm not one to judge and you seem like a pretty decent person, you look after your animals and understand to keep what you enjoy seperate from them. You're also honest, and I respect that. I just think too much of anything isn't allways a good thing, even having too much of a sex drive can be disruptive. Besides, if you can't enjoy yourself sober, I can't help but think there's an issue there. It shouldnt be something you do because you get bored without it.
>>2020486
i can enjoy myself sober, i just don't prefer it... i agree if it's just a matter of being bored than it does become an issue cuz i've been there, but i think it really depends on what you do when you smoke
like i'll get high and write, read, play guitar, and work out and shit like that... and i used to just get shitfaced and go on these long walks to nowhere just to see shit (haven't done this in a while, last time i needed to load myself with vicodin for it to work out) for hours... and then it's social too, like that's how i hang out with certain people as well...
i can do those things sober, but it's not my preference
>>2020622
+ i get where you're coming from though...
>Neighbor has Ridgeback
>neighbor works 12 hours a day
>has kids
>barely feeds dog
>other neighbors feed it cause she doesn't
>dog keeps getting out, multiple times a day
>go out and wrangle her a few times
>finally confront owner
>won't let it inside because 'muh landlord' and 'it'll chew everything up'
>tell her that's because she doesn't exercise it enough
>'it can get enough exercise in my yard!!!'
>eventually gets rid of the dog
Hopefully she just gave it away and didn't euthanize it
>>2020474
Meh I enjoy a beer and joint once in a while too, doesn't mean I would feed it to my dog. I don't think you should feed your pets regular numbing substances.
>>2020636
Marijuana isn't a numbing substance.
>>2020643
No it's a substance that alters your senses and weakens your short term memory.
>>2020657
> alters your senses
That's the whole point of a psychoactive drug. Cars also transport people and the sun shines.
>and weakens your short term memory
Not significantly. I'm not really worried my dog is going forget what she was talking about.
>>2020659
Altering the senses can be fucking terrifying when you don't prepare for it.
>>2020661
>terrifying
>can be
I was talking about marijuana not massive doses of benadryl.
>>2020659
>That's the whole point of a psychoactive drug
Why do you think it's okay to give your dog psychoactive drugs? A dog in the wild wouldn't be walking around eating marijuana regularly. Unlike a ride in a car, marijuana use alters your time perception, bodily functions and moods. The animal has no control or understanding of what is happening to it. It might not be full on abuse, but it's a very strange thing to do.
Like people who get their rocks off giving their unsuspecting friends food with weed in it just to watch them get high.
>>2020668
So you never knew anyone with panic attacks caused by marihuana?
Certain people react very badly to it.
>>2020670
>Why do you think it's okay to give your dog psychoactive drugs?
Why do you think it isn't okay? Let's see what great reasons you have...
>A dog in the wild wouldn't be walking around eating marijuana regularly.
A dog wouldn't be in the wild. Wolves live in the wild. Dogs, being domesticated animals, have all kinds of shit happen to them that doesn't happen "in the wild".
>Unlike a ride in a car, marijuana use alters your time perception, bodily functions and moods.
A ride in the car can alter time perception. I've been on road trips where I've felt like time has flown by. I've been on road trips where time seems to drag on. Just about anything can alter your sense of time.
A trip in a car can alter the way your body functions. For example the inactivity of sitting can cause an increased risk of blood clots. A trip in a car can alter mood. Time perception, body alteration, and mood alteration happen every day. They are not necessarily positive or negatiive.
>The animal has no control
My dog has the choice of eating it or not.
>or understanding of what is happening to it.
My dog understands if it eats the plant it feels happy.
>>2020675
>So you never knew anyone with panic attacks caused by marihuana?
Yeah you said terrifying. A panic attack is somewhere between mild and moderate discomfort.
>Certain people react very badly to it.
No reacting badly is when you cut off your penis and tongue after ingesting Angel's Trumpet.
http://news.sky.com/story/213836/student-cuts-off-penis-and-tongue
OMG I THINK THE POLICE ARE AFTER US is not a terrifying experience. Besides I was there to calm my dog if it was needed.
>>2020690
>A panic attack is somewhere between mild and moderate discomfort.
This is a nigga who has never tried to explain to an ER nurse that you can't breathe, and then had them cop an attitude about it because you can't tell them your symptoms, because you can't breathe.
>it's been like 5 years now and I'm still mad at that cunt
>can't breathe
>still conscious
>going to ER over panic attack
The ER nurse was annoyed because there wasn't anything wrong with you. GOMER - Get Out of My ER
What they'll do at the ER in that case is give you Ativan. I've never had someone go to the ER because I know how to to calm them down.
>>2020696
>can't link posts.
Seriously though, they tell you go to the ER if it gets far enough.
In the really severe stages you need oxygen.
Or at least that's what they told me.
>>2020698
Let's say for the sake of argument that your panic attack was bad enough to stop you from breathing. You would pass out and start breathing normally again. It's like trying to kill yourself by holding your breath. It just isn't going to work.
>>2020703
Losing unconsciousness is really dangerous though.
No offense, but I'm pretty sure you're the guy arguing that giving dogs cannabis is fine. And on the other side, there's a doctor telling me that I should head into an ER if I start showing signs of oxygen deprivation.
>this fucking thread
this is why i hate stoners more than vegans
>but muh dog has a choice of not eating it!
fucking dumb ass dogs eat everything from sewing needles to an entire chocolate cake
>>2020228
Personally, me and my mum keep our rabbits indoors with us. In Australia, rabbits are in danger of catching myxomatosis from mosquitoes. Additionally, rabbits are very sensitive, family-based animals that leaving our ones outside is unthinkable.
>>2020710
I'm presuming you don't eat them.
>>2020706
I'm sorry your dog is dumb and eats sewing needles. My dog is smart and doesn't eat metal.
>>2020052
Where do you live? I swear I know that cat
>>2020448
>Today he and his girlfriend bring home another dog without asking anyone
I hate these people.
>>2020670
a lot of people who give people drugs like that do it cuz they think they're giving someone a nice surprise...
i'd never do it personally, but i've smoked plenty of shit mixed with weed that way... and it's a "gift" mentality...
>>2020690
panic attacks can be a lot worse than that... you've probably never had a severe one... i have, not due to weed just in general, and it can be a lot worse than moderate discomfort...
i'll be honest if someone wants to give their dog weed, that's on them and i wouldn't lecture them about that choice... not my place even if i wouldn't do it personally and especially if the dog is healthy and happy anyway...
but you're just really fucking wrong about panic attacks...
>>2020690
>A panic attack is somewhere between mild and moderate discomfort
ah, I see you've never had a panic attack.
>>2020692
eh a lot of nurses suck, so do a lot of doctors particularly in ers... last time i was in the hospital i overheard a doctor bet a nurse that i was just there for pills while waiting for test results... i've been wheeled into rooms for surprise exams and tests for unrelated shit with no explanation before it happened as well...
only to have doctors apologize afterwards cuz they rarely have their shit together and ers are chaotic on top of all that... shit i've been given the wrong medication in a different hospital before too... and while i personally loved the surprise morphine most people who hear that story are horrified...
i'm high so i might've lost my point in there, but mostly i'm saying you can't expect much when you go to the er for a panic attack... cuz most ers are complete shitholes, and the people who work in them are usually overworked and overwhelmed... so it's not really worth being mad about
>>2020725
>you've never had a panic attack
I've had a panic attack. You've never hallucinated millions of spiders. You've never suffered from a psychotic episode where you thought multiple police agencies were going to kill you and your family. Anxiety is fucking weak tier mental distress. Anxiety from marijuana is 14 year old girl shit.
>>2020735
>I've had a panic attack.
>thinks it's just anxiety
kek
>>2020735
everything feels different to the person experiencing it... and severity is relative... just saying, how bad an experience is for the person going through it is personal... and weighing and comparing it to something else entirely while talking like one being "worse" makes the other somehow alright doesn't work
Not exactly bad owner, but more like a guy who pissed me off when I was walking the pups:
>Own a 4yr old mini Dachshund, very muscular from losing a lot of weight
>Also own a now 18 week old Shiba Inu, nice a fluffy
>be walking with my mum and dogs, halfway through my 15 minute walk
>it's about -5 Celsius outside
>see guy sitting and smoking, wearing a thick hoodie
>Ignore him and tell my dogs to ignore him too, as they wouldn't stop trying to sniff him.
>Not even a minute after I pass him, he approaches quickly from behind while my dogs sniff a bush
>he slows down
"You're dogs should be wearing coats."
>I'm fucking tired of people telling me this shit.
>I tell him that no, they don't need coats. It's hardly cold out. I'm wearing a hood and my Shiba was basically bred for cold weather. My dachsy is also thick enough and very much enjoying her walk, so I know she's not cold
"You're a bad owner! You're dogs need fucking coats."
>Literally stop my mum and I and look back at him. "Fuck off. They don't. At the moment all they need are boots because of the salt."
"How would you feel if you were naked in the snow?!"
>This dude is yelling at me.
"Fine, because my body temperature would be higher than a human's and I would have a FUR coat."
>Tell him to fuck off again and keep walking.
>He proceeds to yell profanities at me as I walk past a few strangers, their confused.
>Finish my walk, my mom is laughing
>We now make jokes about dogs not wearing coats when we drive by people who are walking there dogs.
>>2020739
>severity is relative
not really. Panic attacks are defined by their being disabling.
so if he didn't find panic attacks to be completely disabling, that wasn't a panic attack.
some people may have a higher or lower threshold for being incapacitated, but all of them must cross that threshold for it to be a panic attack.
>>2020743
i meant the severity of experiencing a panic attack and the severity of experiencing a psychotic episode aren't comparable in a "this is worse" sorta way cuz what matters is how the person experiencing it felt while going through it...
i responded to him just before that and said he's probably never had a severe panic attack if he's able to write it off so easily...
my bad if i wasn't clear enough, but yeah that's not what i meant... it's relative in the sense that if both things are fucking horrible for the person experiencing them then they're both just fucking horrible and saying "that's not bad enough, look at this" is pointless
>>2020743
They're completely disabling until you unbrain-fuck yourself.
>>2020750
It is possible to compare. If you get a panic attack you pop some xanax and calm your thoughts. If you get psychosis, you spend months in psych wards begging for more antipsychotics from doctors who don't give a shit about you while reconstructing your entire belief system and understanding of the universe to account for the fact that you can't tell what is reality and what is delusion.
>>2019178
I'm sorry I don't take my fish out for walks enough
I hate people that put their cats on cat stretchers just so they can take part in the longcat meme.
>>2014935
>>Tried to trap all the cats; almost got Kitty
are you fucking shitting me? you rescued this cat from being an uncared-for stray then let it back outside?
>great mouser
letting it kill native animals literally for no reason at all. genius.
>>2014988
>almost called the cops because it was barking at 3 am this morning
almost? you are the most tolerant person i have ever heard of. my neighbor does the same thing and if the dog barks for more than 30 minutes i call animal control (he has threatened to cite her several times and the bitch still just tosses the dog outside and doesn't let it in until it has barked a solid half hour). if it's after 10 pm i call the police (who are pathetic and just ask her to take the dog in -- the dog officer is tougher than these wannbe cops).
before you say i am being harsh, i have serious sound issues -- i go road-ragey in seconds if neighbors are being inconsiderate and making loud sounds. letting the dog bark a half hour and then just calling animal control (versus storming over there with fire coming out of my nostrils) is a huge positive step for me :)
>>2015033
despite all this, you still do her the favor of providing your sexual services. you're such a good person ;)
>>2015136
>Golden Retriever puppy (pleb breed btw)
yeah so lame, i only like cool dogs that are badass like wolf/akita mixes and black mastiffs with a spike collar.
>>2019172
god people on 4chan tell these stories and i am like, omg your friends are pure, 100% grade-a white trash. desu you need a friend upgrade senpai. murica.
>>2019304
>wanders in from /b/
>expert on dog training and behavior after 5 mins
lurk moar
>>2019617
When some dingbat leaves your door open when you aren't around then opens the house door and they fly outside and never return, you may see the need. A friend was just telling me how they hired housekeepers and the housekeepers opened every door in the house and propped the front door open to bring in their supplies and her birds both bolted and were never seen from again.
>>2020753
no playing the "worse off" game really is pointless... no one wins, and all you do is prove you have an inability to empathize which doesn't do you any favours...
>>2020772
that seems more like an issue of trusting people you don't know to not be stupid than letting birds fly around the house all day when you're there or no one else is though... just saying
+ not all birds just fly off and disappear anyway... like i had 2 budgies that got outside, but one never left the garden and the other did fly off past the neighbor's house but he came right back (i whistled to him, he whistled back at me) and let me take him home... it was horrifying, but it lasted less than 5 minutes and all was well... neither one of them was super tame either... like my s/o and i could pet them a bit and play with toys with them and they'd eat out of our hands, and knew a couple of commands, but they preferred each other's company to everything and just wanted that most of the time... i realize i got extremely lucky, but it really does depend a bit on the birds themselves too...
>>2020889
>>2020772
+ my s/o also once left the garden door open for his dog to go in and out, (our bedroom has a door straight into our garden) while i was in the shower, and our budgies were flying around (he was half asleep and i yelled at him after about how they could've flown out and he hasn't done it since) when i got out they were flying laps around the room from their playground and back right past the open door without even giving a shit... they don't even leave the room to go to other parts of the house (and we have just left those doors open since it's all inside anyway) unless we take them there, otherwise it's just laps around or chilling on their playground (except the conure who will jump in our bed with us) with no real interest in stuff that isn't theirs... i still wouldn't risk doing that shit on purpose though, but i'm just saying sometimes dumb shit does happen and it turns out alright...
but it's easy to lock a door if housekeepers are coming over or to not let people into your house while you aren't home... or to just put your birds away while you're gone an extended period of time if you know there's gonna be someone there...
what happened to your friend was unfortunate, but yeah... doesn't mean that anon is doing the wrong thing for their birds
>>2020383
Ahhhh your birdie is a qt anon
>>2020818
This, trouble is "panic attacks" have become a popular way of attention seeking, but the real deal is not fucking fun. My waste of space anti-vaxxer father gave me weed as a kid because he thought it would "help cure a cold", and you know what happened? I went out of my little mind. I was beyond hyserics thinking my heart was going to explode. Worst experience I've ever had. I'm able to enjoy it safely now as an adult, but you should never give it to a pet or child just for shits and giggles.
>>2020951
Are you sure he didn't give you salvia?
>>2020464
I've seen dogs whine for it until somebody blows in their face a few times. Some dogs seem to like it just fine. I'm not saying it's the best for them, since obviously smoke isn't good for anybody's lungs.
>>2020690
>not knowing what a panic attack is at all
>>2020951
>as a kid
Like I said panic attacks from weed are 14 year old girl type shit. Chill dogs? Not so much. Your chihuahua may vary.
>not knowing what a panic attack is at all
I've overdosed on AM-2201 which is a full agonist of the cannabinoid receptors. I've heard my heart beat in my head at 240 bpm. I know what a panic attack is. That shit is weak. I got in to bed and did breathing exercises and in 30 minutes I was alright.
I've hallucinated hundreds of bugs in my throat biting at inside of my windpipe. I've driven 60 miles in 35 minutes running from imaginary police. I've believed that the mental hospital I was detained in had gas chambers for patients they didn't like. I've had my room changed to one of the rooms I suspected was rigged to be a gas chamber and walked in to it thinking I had no choice anyway. I was convinced I would be carried out the next morning. You don't know what true terror is.
>>2015041
Got another story related to my friend with his stoner ferret, where he gets a taste of his own medicine.
>big party going on, lots of people over
>bring the ferrets out for a playdate so they can romp around and dook together
>some guys bring out a dab rig, begin passing it around
>mention to them that my ferret is not a stoner ferret
>friend mentions that his ferret only likes green bud, doesn't want to give his ferret a dab
>about 5 minutes later the dude who brought out the dab rig blows a dab right in my buddies ferret's face
>ferret immediately starts sneezing, goes to my buddy and within 2 minutes falls asleep in his lap
>"HAHA BRO, I JUST GAVE YOUR FERRET A DAB!"
>buddy is like, "dude, really? I said no dabs."
>asshole's girlfriend speaks up, "you told him not to, so he had to."
>nobody except the asshole and his girlfriend are laughing
>asshole grabs my ferret
>tell him plainly "if you blow smoke in my ferrets face I will break the bong over the table and gut you with it."
>he gets all offended and calls me a crazy bitch
>tell him its not cool to deliberately blow a dab in someone's pet's face just because they said not to
>he brushes it off and leaves to get more beer
>everyone else says I went to far with threatening him, that I totally killed the good feels of the party by creating drama
Did I go too far with threatening him? I feel like the asshole really deserved to get chewed out for what he did, but apparently everyone else just wanted to let it slide.
Also my buddies ferret was fine, he woke up an hour later and was ready to play. My buddy was definitely not pleased about the asshole though, we had a talk later about it.
>>2021160
>bringing your ferret to a party
Why
>>2021150
Dude you're so cool... tell us more about how cool you are
>>2021150
You don't know what true terror is..... lol
>>2021160
You didn't go too far. Fuck them for pushing something that you already drew the line. Messing with people's pets is unforgivable.
>>2020448
Report them for animal abuse. Get a friend to do it if you want it to be marginally anonymous.
>>2021150
we all get it, you've got some issues and have been through different bad shit, and it sucked...
i smoked pcp a lot, with weed years ago... and when i say a lot i mean every day, multiple times a day, from the time i woke up until i went to sleep for a good six to eight months, but i'm gonna be honest i don't know how long i was doing it for sure... cuz i don't remember what month easter was in that year, and that's around when that shit stopped
but anyway on my 22nd birthday i had what was definitely the worst high i've had to date... like it was pcp and weed, and i can't remember if i drank or not i might've cuz it was my birthday but i might not have cuz sometimes getting drugs is easier than getting alcohol...
but anyway, my s/o and i were smoking and at first i felt like i was going down a tunnel, and it's a bit like what you just imagine the inside of one of those wormholes is... the kind that you see on tv narrated by fucking morgan freeman and shit... like that, and it was hard to hear, and i was ok with that part of it but there was music on
and the song lazy eye by the silversun pick ups came on, and about a minute or so in i started to feel like my brain was just covered in static and my skin felt numb and itchy
and i just kept getting deja vu, and flipping my shit trying to smoke cigarettes and not think to let it pass cuz i knew i was high... and i actually flipped my shit over my s/o changing his clothes twice (we were gonna go in the pool cuz i thought it would help, so he changed to do that but he decided it was a bad idea while i was outside smoking so he changed back before i came in) cuz that + the deja vu made me feel sick and my skin was crawling... i blacked out afterward, like i wasn't there anymore and everything was gone... and i don't know what happened during that time i just remember coming back from it and it was like waking up from a dream except my body just kept going without my head there at all...
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>>2021150
+ that shit was awful...
and my worst non-recreational drug experience was zoloft which was even shittier than that and lasted 3 days (it was meant to be a recreational experience the bottle was next to a bottle of xanax) and that was pretty fucked up too... i couldn't sleep and i couldn't eat and i couldn't feel anything but numbness and like my insides were shaking, and it felt like it would never end... but i didn't wanna go to the hospital cuz what was i gonna tell them? " i accidentally took zoloft cuz i didn't want my high to end from the pcp and weed i smoked but i was out and it was 2 am and it was next to the xanax bottle and neither prescription is mine" and i accidentally bumped into something and realized pain still felt normal... and spent the few days finding ways to hurt myself that wouldn't leave any marks every time i thought about suicide from the way the zoloft was making me feel...
but panic attacks are still fucking horrible...
>cat comes in from animal control
>very rare for ACO to bring in cats
>then we see the cat
>fucker is HUGE
>weighs in at 24 lbs, his belly flattens to a pancake when he lays down
>he was too big to fit in the carrier so animal control had to just put the cat in the seat
>very happy cat, purred very loudly and purred constantly
>snuggled with everyone, very relaxed
>named him Tigger, pic related
>he was so fat, his entire lower end was matted because he couldn't reach to clean himself
>despite being morbidly obese, however, he refused to eat anything
>spent a little over a week trying to get him to eat
>finally figure out he eats treats, surprise surprise
>also eventually find out he eats tuna based dry foods
>he stays with us for a month to make sure he continues to eat
>also find out part of his eating issues may be due to 1 (maybe 2) teeth that need to be pulled
>he has many medical waivers about his obesity and his picky eating that people would have to sign, along with a promise that they will get his 1-2 teeth taken care of
>despite that, a woman still adopts him and falls in love
>over a month later, the cat is returned because of 'unrealstic expectations' (the cat was too loud)
>Tigger, once 24 lbs, was now skin draped over a skeleton, weighing in at a whopping 4 lbs 12 oz
>women said she knew he wasn't eating but didn't take him to a vet, and didn't buy the food we recommended because it never went on sale, and never even bought treats for him to eat
>ask why she didn't return the cat sooner if she couldn't afford it, she says shouldn't have to pay for it (even though she signed a waiver saying she would)
>Tigger's condition was so deplorable and he was so weak he had to be euthanized
>>2020951
>you should never give it to a pet or child just for shits and giggles.
You're not the boss of me, fag.
>nice, happy couple adopting a small long hair mutt
>they were very happy with the pup, were buying all the silly pet things we have for sale
>a raised food dish, tiny kongs, bows and hats, a $80 DNA test kit
>they go home a happy family
>about a month later, they return the dog
>it's DNA test came up with some Staffordshire Bulldog/American Bulldog/American Staffordshire Terrier (AKA Pit Bull Terrier)
>they didn't want a dog that was part pit bull, even if it was 1/16
>surrendered the dog because they bought another puppy online where they 'know' the parents
>make a huge fuss about the shelter mis-representing dogs to get them adopted
>tfw 1/16 of a pit means that much
>>2016745
>3 months old
>heartworms so bad we had to put him down
What.
This makes no sense whatsoever.
>>2020440
This is a bit late, but call your local Humane Society and see if they will take some of the rodents. The one here takes rabbits, rats, hamsters and pretty much anything small and fluffy. They'll fix 'em up then try to find forever homes for them, all the while providing good food and habitats for them.
>>2021150
> You don't know what true terror is.
You know I wasn't completely sure at first, but you are a certified 100% faggot.
>>2021692
what the fuck
even if the 1/16th mattered, pits can be one of the sweeter and more loyal breeds.
Those people are idiots.
Probably not the usual story, but I always feel like a bad owner for this.
>Walking home one night during a bad winter
>Hear something mewling, there's a kitten under a car trying to hide from the sleet
>Pick it up and take it home, giving it a warm bath, watered down milk and a blanket
>It's looking a lot better, it's a pure gray maine coone with white chest fur that looks like a beard when he sits upright
>Call him Marx because Santa seemed a little silly at the time
>Time progresses, cat grows up and loves to chill with me, watching TV and trying to steal breakfast
>I let him out every so often, he always comes back before nightfall
>One day he doesn't come back, stand outside waiting for him and suddenly hear loud noise in the backyard
>Big ass dog trying to get under my patio, hear a cat yowling
>Oh shit
>Grab a chair and throw it like a fucking spartan, nailing the dog in the side
>It runs off whimpering and I'm relieved to see Marx is safe, just a little scared and panting
>Never seen a cat pant before, pick him up and take him inside to check for injuries
>Next day the dog owners are pissed at me for breaking their dog's ribs, I told them they should get a better fence for it and they decide to not press charges
>I remember the panting and take him to the vet to make sure there's no bad injuries
>A few hours pass and I find out he's slowly dying from a lung disease I can't remember
>Goes on for a few more weeks, cat starts to stay indoors more, until eventually he goes out after 3 weeks
>Never comes back, stood outside and waited for a few hours, never came back the next day
I always feel like a shitty owner for not being able to save him and because I had to assault a dog to save him. I hope he'll come back one day, but I know he did it to save me the grief.
>>2022024
All my anger was replaced with sadness.
RIP little commie cat. ;-;
>walking my dog
>piles of shit absolutely everywhere
>couple of old dudes talking about it
>see me with my dog, give me a pissed off look
>show them bags, tell them Im one of the few that actually clean up after their dog
>still look pissed off as I walk past
why dont people just pick up their dogs shit, it takes like two seconds and there are bins everywhere
>>2022204
Because "ew it's still warm" and they are lazy assholes that can't deal with responsibility
>>2021974
so why did you read it all?
>>2022024
oh shit this is so sad
you gave that cat the best life it could have had anon. first you saved it from the cold and then you saved it from a dog with a badass chair toss.
wherever the little dude is I'm sure he's happy and grateful
>>2021608
please tell me she got charged with abuse or SOMETHING
>>2021608
That lady needs to be euthanized.
>>2014924
I guess I count as a bad owner. My gf has a lab that got fucked by car one day cause the idiot ran out. Dog got stuck between wheels and fucking dragged like a boss. Anyways, I am helping rehabilitate him and my gf spoils him, he loves to be inside dog and be fed treats all the time, hates being outside in his kennel as well. Sometimes for pure fun, I lock him in his kennel outside and listen to him whine and since the kennel is in the corner, I park my gfs car there and hang out with my gf, so she cant see him in the kennel trapped. I always get mad at him and newspaper him for when he fucks up peeing on the pads we got him. Why my gf puts his poop and pee pads near the dining table is beyond me!
>>2021160
You were retarded for being there in the first place.
