Gaia bitches OUT

>>17114439
Bumping for advice.

>I don't think such a guy exists, mainly because straight guys think they're cucks if you're not thinking exclusively about them 24/7 and nobody wants to be a cuck.

Is this true? Do you guys really expect a girl to only think about you and not have her own personal private fetishes and fantasies? Guys expect their gfs to be fine 100% fine with their porn and porn actresses because "it's just maturbation" but you don't want girls to have our own porn and masturbation fuel?
How can men be such hypocrites? I'm seriously disgusted.

>>17114560
Shut the fuck up Gaia bitch. Also I saged

>>17114563
You sound like you're triggered.

>>17114568
No, I just refuse to let your samefagging agree with itself

>>17114570
>someone's disagreeing with me
>must be a samefag!

>>17114431
I'm not a psychologist nor a doctor, but I will say that your preferences are abnormal, but you already know that.

Let me trail you along on my train of thought for a moment. Fantasy worlds, escapism, and catharsis have all existed for quite a long time. What you have found for yourself, is that you have a preference for a certain style of art depicting a certain style of action. Your ancestors probably were the same way with smut novels or granite carvings.

Now, realistically, there's no way your parents will approve of your primary attraction to 2D figures, because the farther away you drift from 2D communities, the more it seems like a mental illness.

I do not believe it is a mental illness, however, you must understand that to normal people, they can never really understand the connection a person can develop to 2D drawings, especially anime variety.

No real man can make you feel the exact way a fantasy can, that is the nature of fantasy. I may have a a desire to have sex with a mermaid, but I never will.

If you can live with the barrier between fantasy and reality, and have the two coexist, then I think you'll be fine. If you are trying to force the image off fantasy upon reality, then I believe you are setting yourself up to be unhappy with the results.

>>17114571
Gaia bitches will always be samefag

>>17114579
I just want my parents to stop pressuring me to find a boyfriend. If they can't approve of me, at least shut up and not bring up the subject. It wears doen on your nerves having your father nag you all the time on crap you can't do anything about.

>No real man can make you feel the exact way a fantasy can, that is the nature of fantasy. I may have a a desire to have sex with a mermaid, but I never will.
I still like to think a man could make the feel good beibg with him even if it's different from my fantasies, but realistically speaking I'm not going to find someone who meets my expectations. I'm not trying to force any image but Im not willing to reject what I love either, and from what I understand men don't like having to share.

>>17114602
Sorry for the typos, shit.

>>17114602
Typos are fine.

You said you're a virgin still, so I will say this.

No real man can make you feel the exact way a fantasy can, but inversely a fantasy, ground in thought, can't ever make you feel the same way a real person can.

When it comes to things like sex, kissing, or even hugging, hormones are released that the realm of fantasy cannot compete with.

That being said, men are simple creatures, and if it's a man with a high libido, any use of your sexuality outside of intercourse with him, is a possible problem area. Why, do you ask? because men are simple creatures. We see things in a very harsh contrast of "things I don't need to worry about fucking my girl" and "things I need to worry about fucking my girl".

Oh, and "things that are trying to kill me"

It's a harsh explanation, I know. But most guys are like this in some way.

>>17114630
Shut the fuck up Gaia bitch

>>17114637
I don't know what Gaia is, but without a good reason I'll have to kindly reject your advice.

>>17114630
>That being said, men are simple creatures, and if it's a man with a high libido, any use of your sexuality outside of intercourse with him, is a possible problem area. Why, do you ask? because men are simple creatures. We see things in a very harsh contrast of "things I don't need to worry about fucking my girl" and "things I need to worry about fucking my girl".

Men should be intelligent enough to understand that "Things that don't exist" cannot fuck anyone. I don't want a man that wants to overcontrol my thoughts to the point of being jealous of people who don't exist, that's extremely repulsive and unacceptable to me. No matter how much I draw and fantasise about Uchiha Madara or Vegeta or whichever other fictional character, they aren't going to rise up from the paper and make you a cuck, so your fears are irrational.


The man I want a understands this and is therefore fine with my fantasies, and doesn't get jealous when I fangirl over - or go masturbate to - one or more of my husbandos by myself.

>>17114664
You make a good point.

Though I will say, that once a source such as Uchiha Madara or Vegeta is actively (what a man thinks of) stealing your sexuality from him, it doesn't matter how pretend the character is. You could even fantasize about a coat with a strap-on, and your man finding out about it would at the least threaten his masculinity, and at most, cause him to break up with you.

>>17114677
That wouldn't happen because I would not pursue a relationship with someone so insecure. It's a serious turn-off, sorry.

>>17114683
You may see it as being insecure, but I'd ask you to question your thoughts on partners. Is it insecure? Or is it Normal? Or more importantly, is it human nature?

Now, if you're to humor me, which, (please humor me, I don't have anything else to do) I'd ask you, would you rather have a man who is abnormal, but suiting to you tastes, or have a man who is normal, but opposed to your 2D desires?

>>17114691
I'm not an irrationally jealous person. I don't mind it if a guy watches porn or has his own impossible crushes. I can't understand the line of thinking of someone who wants their SO not to keep something important like your own thoughts and ideas, it reeks of abusive men who want reduce their partners to empty husks with no personality of their own to me. Now if a guy had a crush on another real girl, I'd expect him to break up with me so he can pursue that girl, I'm not willing to be in a relationship with someone who wants another real person obviously, unless they're someone impossible like porn crushes or celebrity crushes. I got those too. Fiction is wholly fine.

>would you rather have a man who is abnormal, but suiting to you tastes, or have a man who is normal, but opposed to your 2D desires?
The first one obviously, I can't be with someone who's opposed to my desires. I don't want to deal with the endless conflict. I hope you aren't suggesting anon from 4chan, abusive assholes do not suit my taste.

>>17114560
this isn't true at all. Same as girls, really. Just don't rub it in our face.

>>17114630
this is bullshit

>>17114716
You seem pretty reasonable about this, so I won't be a jerk about my advice, but I would ask you to clarify some of my questions, if you would.

Pornography actresses and celebrities are still real people, an impossible crush and an improbable crush is not the same thing.

Now, that being said, do you think someone who asks their partner to curb to sexual desires is the same is a person who reduces their partner to an empty husk with no personality? I'd say I could disagree with you on that point.

We can both agree that an abusive asshole is not preferable, but a person having openly accepted sexual desires outside the relationship has never been normal, but I'm sure there are people who could accept it. I'm sorry if I've been overly negative in this post.

>>17114664
a sane man won't try to control your fetishes or what you do in your private time
He *might* be threatened by the fact that you're jacking off to something he can't help you with but if he's sensible and you explain the situation correctly there's no reason your fantasies would be incompatible with a relation with a man (who might have his own fantasies, mind you)
Men are human too.

>>17114691
that's no insecure "to her"
that's straight up insecure/idiotic

>>17114748
How so? I'm sorry if I have explained something poorly, please let me clarify.

>>17114754
Most males are more "insecure/idiotic" than you'd like to thing.

>>17114756
>men are simple creatures, and if it's a man with a high libido, any use of your sexuality outside of intercourse with him, is a possible problem area. Why, do you ask? because men are simple creatures. We see things in a very harsh contrast of "things I don't need to worry about fucking my girl" and "things I need to worry about fucking my girl".
I overreacted, but seriously, you can't image how much I am buttblasted by that statement, and even more by the fact that you think this and seem to be a mature, sane person otherwise

>>17114760
Most males you know, then.
Which country do you live in ?

>>17114761
It's all good, I'm here to learn as much as I speak.

From my experience, men are pretty touchy when it comes to paternal certainty, and the inventions of birth control have thrown our biological senses all out of whack.

In the past, it used to be "if my girl fucked someone, her kid will look like him".

Now, it's a matter of "If my girl fucked someone it won't be a problem since I'd never know, but I'll still be enraged if I ever found out it was even a possibility."

>>17114776
I'm from the United States...I'm Sorry ;_;

>>17114750
>Pornography actresses and celebrities are still real people, an impossible crush and an improbable crush is not the same thing.
True, but generally speaking the odds for the average person of having their improbable crush succeed are so slim they're practically non-existent, I'm not going to lose sleep over it. If a guy were really determined to get with Sasha Grey or Scarlett Johannson, I'd just expect him to break up with me first, it's really dishonest to be with one person if you're going to pursue another. Meanwhile you can't pursue people who don't exist.

I'm not going to get jealous or cry over someone who doesn't want me, if they don't want me, they aren't good for me, so having them out of my life is a good thing. I don't have this insane drive to control people. Either someone wants to be with me or they don't, and I don't tolerate those who want to control me.

>Do you think someone who asks their partner to curb to sexual desires is the same is a person who reduces their partner to an empty husk with no personality?
Yes. My sexual desires are important to me. I cannot tolerate a guy that tries to order me around about them especially since I'm not going to act on them save for drawing, sharing my drawings, fangirling and masturbating. If a guy gets jealous of that, I don't want to be with him.

>>17114783
This is the thing : fetishes have absolutely nothing to do with infidelity or paternal certainty and men aren't dumb as bricks as a rule so there's no reason a man wouldn't realise that.
>>17114796
anyway, the thing you were asking for was not whether it was possible or not for you to get with a man but how to get your parents to stop pressuring you.
What are your parents like ?

>>17114796
Alright I hear you.

Though I will say, and I don't want to sound like a jerk,
>I'm not going to get jealous or cry over someone who doesn't want me, if they don't want me, they aren't good for me, so having them out of my life is a good thing
These are the words of someone who hasn't really loved someone before. Once you really really love someone, these words go out the window, in fact they get taken directly from your heart, by means of being ripped out.

If you are the type of person who like drawings, fangirling, masturbating, you may not be suited to a monogamous relationship, which is fine, a lot of people go without them, but if you decide you want that sort of thing, you may have to make some compromises.

You sound like a pretty mature person, so I'm glad you're not getting fricked over someone elses bullshit, but at the same time I hope you'll be able to find someone who will either 1. understand your needs or 2. understand you if your needs change. Take care anon.

>>17114803
Dad was the heartthrob of the town in his day and won't shut up.
Mom doesn't mind. She's always encouraged me to be independent and wants me to have a successful career and plenty financial stability before a man. She and I are on very good terms.

>>17114814
Sounds like you've got good looking parents who were socially/sexually successful. That makes a lot of sense when it comes to their pressuring of getting a bf.

>>17114814
So it's really your Dad that keeps bugging you about that ? Have you figured out why ? Is he worried for you ?

>>17114812
I can make compromises on many things but not on my desires, sorry.

>>17114820
Mom doesn't pressure at all to be honest. She understands how difficult it is to find an acceptable man for me and she doesn't want me to be unhappy, she understands forced relationships are horrible. It's Dad that won't keep to himself despite me repeatedly telling him I'm not interested in being with someone I don't like.

>>17114821
As I said he was the heartthrob of the town in his day so he likely expected his children to be heartthrobs too.
He's worried for me sure, but really he has no reason to be, I have a good job, I can support myself, I'm not going to starve or be homeless. I can take care of myself.

>>17114829
Your desires might change over time, but if they don't, I hope you find someone who understands you my friend.

I'm glad to hear your mother doesn't pester you as well. As for your father and his hearth-throb background, I can see why he's so ready to have a son-in-law or a grandchild.

>>17114836
So despite you telling him that you can support yourself and that you're not interested in anyone he still pesters you ? just tell him that you're gay or something

>>17114431

>never had a sexual thought that wasn't for 2D

Nice lie !

> I've never been in a relationship
>no real guy has ever gotten me to feel anything for him

Well duh you never had any connection how can you expect to feel anything...


To me it looks like you are just escaping into this world of yours and got stuck there.

>>17114630
>No real man can make you feel the exact way a fantasy can, but inversely a fantasy, ground in thought, can't ever make you feel the same way a real person can.
Kinda preaching that, but kinda not. A random person won't work for that, and the fantasies make your expectations go up. If OP finds a guy who meets her expectations more or less, then she'll probably realize the advantages of loving a real person over a 2D character. But if she tried to get close with just anyone, it wouldn't work, you'll just think the whole kissing, hugging and sex thing isn't really that big deal. Speaking out of experience here.

All in all, OP should just tell the parents she'll get a boyfriend when she meets a right person.

i don't know man, i'm a female and even i'm starting to gravitate to 2d exclusive.
there's a saying that goes something like the best written character is a pale shadow of the dumbest real human being. You know why, because written characters are ALWAYS predictable. not to mention they are usually aesthetically homogeneous. an artist will have a style but that's one style and it's nothing like real human beings.

you think maybe you're lacking or lacked some stability in your life?

did you dull yourself to an artist's style long enough to get that same kinda porn syndrome but with anime?


i'm trying to figure this out but i don't wanna project my own experiences.it's really interesting nevertheless.

What the fuck is up with people being attracted to cartoons? How ugly/fat do you have to be?

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>>17115247
Me too. Damn swordboys.

>>17115255
>saying this on 4chan of all places

>>17114837
If she's not ready, he should respect that.

>>17114431
What?

Just say you're looking and lie about it like my sister

How old are you? How is this a problem? If you're in like your 40s then yes, your parents are just worried you're not going to be a bitter old lady who pushes everyone away and be miserable

If you're a teen oh fuck off
If you're in your 20s, you haven't even met enough people to say you'll only love your Chinese comic shojounenai

It's not like they're selling you off

>>17115255
>>17115247
I was gonna say that

Most if not all are terribly written, and if they arent, they have a story to carry them. Sheena is generic, it's Sheena traveling the world with a crush on Lloyd that makes her interesting

>For me in order to love someone... I have no particular physical image in mind but they would have to treat me good. Be kind to me, be patient with me, leave me space, help me when I need help, not try to lord over me, wait for my opinion, respect my boundaries. I'm sure there's more but right now that's what I can list off the top of my head. I don't think such a guy exists.
This is an interesting list of good qualities. However I think you need to ask yourself an important question. If you did find a boy who matches those standards, would you enter a sexual relationships with him? You don't masturbate to real people. You are sexually attracted to 2D, near exclusively. Even if you did find a great guy to date you would most likely end up in a platonic friendship. So I think there are two different problems here. You cannot find a boy who meets your standards AND you are overwhelmingly attracted to 3D boys. Two problems.

This is important to accept because if you say things like
>"the only reason I'm not in a relationship is because boys sucks"
Then you would be lying to yourself. It is a possible scenario, it is possible for a girl to be surrounded by boys who sucks, however that girl would also have a fap folder that consists of real people. It is not the case with you, therefore it's more complicated than that. There is more than one problem here.

That's a shame, OP.

I think you're greatly underestimating the appeal of real males and your capacity for animal lust. Recognize that you, being straight, would probably love seeing pre-cum dripping out of a penis, balls rising, a guy holding a woman down and railing her, ect.

But you're psyching yourself out and sticking to safe "relationship" crap and drawn pictures. Stick with 3D porn until you find your type, really start looking at men.

>>17114431
The kind of parents that pressure you into getting a partner can't be negotiated with, sorry.
They won't treat you like an equal, and in their heads you're still wearing a diaper. You could be the most accomplished adult and taking care of them in diapers and they'd still be stuck in their habits.

Accept that their requests are impossible to achieve - it makes them easier to ignore. Also if you got a bf, they'd ask for babies.

>>17116635
>If you did find a boy who matches those standards, would you enter a sexual relationships with him?
If kissing him isn't repulsive to me, if I like his touch and didn't find it repelling, if I got my intimate parts warm and tingling when I'm making out with him, and if I felt safe and secure enough he's going to stop if I tell him no/stop and not rape me, sure I don't see why not.

>>17116892
No I don't want to. I stick with what *I* like. Fuck off.

>>17117409
that's pretty defensive over someone basically telling you to try 3d

like he didnt even say watch straight man woman porn

>>17117409
>>17116892
Adding that my type of 3D porn is a few selected JGV videos and one singular specific gay western twinks video, because it's that good. The rest I don't like, it doesn't elicit anything in me and I've looked at lots. I am satisfied with what I have and I don't care to look for more, so please keep your suggestions to yourself. For those who don't know, JGV stands for Japanese Gay Video.