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So we all know that actual rape is horrible.
We all know those faggots that say that orgasm = consent are just idiot virginal trolls that watched too much porn.

But we also know that rape is just about the number one fantasy of women.

Why the fuck IS that? Are you just imagining a rape that is unrealistically vanilla and romantic, like a big hunky clean Fabio that gently forces you to submit to him? Or is it the actual awful parts of rape - the pain, the rudeness and selfishness of the rapist, the danger of injury or pregnancy - do those things actually sound hot?
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I suppose it's the idea of control (same with cock caging/chastity/cuckholding/bdsm/ect) but taken to its extreme. I feel that a lot of fetishes and kinks are based around the idea of giving up control, or taking it, or ect-cetera.

Personally, I have a rape fetish. It only manifests itself around seeing powerful, arrogant type characters though. I don’t self insert--I fantasize about them being brought low and humiliated, and rape is one of the fastest ways you can do that.
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The latter. Because societal conditioning has made it so that the rude arrogant and selfish men are the most desirable.
>See Bond movies

It's fucked up. It's twisted, and it wont change for my generation. Unfortunately it's spurred this side culture of supposedly "Alpha" males on 4chan that think women want to be raped, not understanding the idea of a fantasy, but meh.
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It's an issue of semantics. Most women don't really want to be "raped" in the sense that we think of, including the violence and pain. They do however crave the rush of excitement, of the unknown, being "taken" forcefully (not painfully). Basically they want to feel helpless, but secure at the same time. They want to feel like they aren't in control, but that the man doing it is "alpha" enough (strong, capable, aggressive) to control the situation.

Part of it is the the adrenaline rush, as fear does turn many people on, especially women.

The ones who also enjoy the pain aspect usually are into hitting, slapping, squeezing or pulling. As long as they are wet, you could do whatever and it would only turn them on more. I think going in dry would be the only exception.
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>>16999228
Wait, so are you a girl that fantasizes about other girls being raped? And if so is that a sexual thing for you, or just a passive aggressive thing?
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>>16999241
Not just other girls, but guys too. And I'm fairly sure it's just a sexual thing for me. I haven't been molested or raped (honestly I'm still a virgin) and have never imagined myself getting raped. I don't know what it's like for other girls though.
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>>16999272
I've heard enough stories about girls wanting to see guys/boys getting raped to be convinced it's an actual thing for some people.
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>>16999219
>We all know those faggots that say that orgasm = consent

No, that thread was only like 2 days ago.
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>>16999219
Girls want to be dominated.

Take control of the situation as in... Touch her, kiss her, fondle her body, and control her. Lay her down, bend her over, spread her legs, etc.

Shove your dick in her mouth, or finger her pussy, ass/ Rub your dick all over her. Shove it in her and fuck her with your rhythm not hers. Simple things like that.

Girls get off on getting a guy off. It's one thing I noticed with most girls. They don't mind much about themselves if you can make sex interesting for them and last for about 30 minutes.
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Yeah as many above me have said, it's simply the domination thing. I for one would obviously not like to truly be raped, I doubt many people would, but rough "dub-con" with someone I'm already in a relationship is a different matter. But that in itself is a blurred line I suppose. This is why safe words are necessary.
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>>16999363
>here's my sex advice everyone!

Did you even read the question? Hope you didn't waste too much time typing that out.
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I've been told that being cum inside is pretty hot (thinking about impregnation/breeding), of course that doesn't make it practical.

Being felt up and having sex with your fantasy buddy is a turn on for both genders, especially when they are horny because they don't get laid often. Rape is a pretty quick way to achieve that in fantasy, it gets rid of all those social barriers and practical problems they would face in reality.

Being powerless with your wrists pinned must be pretty hot too, if it's anything like the feeling you get doing in from the other side.
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>>16999219
"Fantasizing about something doesn't mean you would do it in the real world."
Man that's obvious...
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>>16999219
Yes, rape is the most common female fantasy. (FFM threesome is the most common male fantasy) And plenty of psychologists and sociologists have studied this and come up with a generally accepted explanation.

It is not a rape fantasy. It is a sex-without-responsibility fantasy.

For various cultural reasons, even modern feminist women live with a vague sense that freely indulging in sex is somehow wrong. So the idea of being made to have sex and not being able to resist is good masturbation fodder.

For some it's bondage, or harem slave, or being nympho, or what novelist Erica Jong called the zipless fuck, the impulsive coupling with a stranger.

For many it is rape - but ALWAYS imagined as a non-vio9lent, secretly desired pleasurable thing.
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>>16999691
>It is a sex-without-responsibility fantasy.

Holy shit...that's so damn plausible.
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I have a rape fetish, but I'm also a sadomasochist and like being scared. My NSFW folder is full of monsters, especially Pyramid Head.

I think some of the fetish as it applies to otherwise vanilla women stems from the non-committal aspect of someone just fucking you, then being done forever. Then, mystery itself can be exciting. Not having to do anything is appealing to those of us that are lazy. There are a lot of little things about the rape fetish that could appeal to people, for all kinds of different reasons. There's no catch-all explanation.

That said, I was raped for real once, and it sucked. I was angry for months. Just really, really pissed off. Would not recommend.
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>>16999239
this
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>>16999691
Came in here to post this. This anon is completely right.
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>But we also know that rape is just about the number one fantasy of women.

the key here is SIMULATED rape, not actual rape.
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>>16999691
YEP this really sums it up for me
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>>16999691
How does that jive with women who have been raped continuing to fantasize about their rape? Or is it completely unrelated?

It seems like women who are actually raped do usually feel lots of responsibility and guilt, yet they return to that incident and repeat it erotically over and over in their minds.

At that point it seems hard to believe that the appeal is a lack of responsibility. Seems more plausible that there's just a strong erotic association with rape, especially if that's the only sexual experience the girl has ever had.
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>>16999219
Rape is indeed one of my top fantasies, but I don't imagine being raped the majority of the time, it's usually that I'm imagining raping someone else. I would never actually rape someone (and doubt I could if I wanted to) but I imagine it's about control, I want to experience complete control over another human being in a pleasurable way for both parties.
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I like the domination factor of it, the forcing yourself inside and being rough.
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>>16999691
>It is a sex-without-responsibility fantasy.
Definitely agree. I'm into submission/bondage and it's exactly that.
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>>16999813
>in a pleasurable way for both parties.

See, in my fantasies I much prefer that they hate it. I don't want it to hurt too much, but the idea that they are disgusted and made to feel dirty and violated by being penetrated and having to take my cum in their body is a huge turnon.
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>>16999219
It's just a fantasy, anon.

I regularly watch incest porn and gangbang porn, I think it's hot as fuck, but I'd never fuck a relative or join in a gangbang.

Same shit with rape.
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