>>16814496
no fap is placebo, you're a retard

>>16814499
eh to an extent.

Not fapping too much will lead to more energy, better sex drive, better flirting skills, and a few other things, but quitting masturbating completely will remove the benefits.

The key is to masturbate the perfect amount. In a book I read The Multi-Orgasmic Man, it recommends that if you're in your twenties, try to only masturbate once every four days.

That gives your body enough time to build up lots of sexual energy that gives you the benefits, but if you don't ejaculate often enough you will get CRIPPLING blue balls, or may even jizz your pants just cuddling with a woman.

I try to only masturbate if I have horrible blue balls and can't get sex off my mind.

If I masturbate too soon, I feel anxious and wake up tired.

If I masturbate at the right time, I feel refreshed. I wake up feeling clearheaded and motivated.

As you get older, you have to ejaculate less and less to compensate for lower sex drive.

30s, maybe once a week. 40s every two weeks. 50s maybe once a month. The book recommends people in their sixties should never try to ejaculate because they can get erectile dysfunction much easier, and supposedly cumming too often in old age is what leads to men having a shorter lifespan than women.

Basically only bust a nut if you have to.

>>16814529
all these fucking words jesus stop talking
you're wrong, accept it you're wrong

>>16814536
I'm sorry you feel that way

>>16814542
i'm sorry you're wrong :)

>>16814529
That book changed my life, everybody should read it

OP, people have quit completely, and like other addictions, or difficult things to quit, I have a lot of advice.

But I simply do not recommend quitting fapping. There is evidence that overfapping causes various problems for a VERY SMALL percentage of people.

Most of us humans who have sex with our partners and have regular jobs, i.e. 95% of adult humanity, FAPPED ALL THE FUCKING TIME WHEN THEY HAD NO GRIL/WIFE, and contiinued FAPPING EVEN WHEN THEY DID.

It's a serious lie that successful people didn't/don't etc etc fap.

fapping is the history of mankind

You have been fooled somewhere by an elaborate story that you bought, hopefully you never paid real money for it, because it's worthless.

>>16814580
goddamit, I just realized I didn't give you any advice about your actual question, but rather just told you that your question is basically stupid.

I fucking hate people who do that , and here I am doing it. Next post I'll give advice on how to quit, because if I run out of space, I lose what I already typed.

>>16814603
Ok, here is how you extend the time between faps.

Your brain gives you false messages, when you remind your brain that these are false, repeatedly (sometimes 50 times, sometimes only once, sometimes much more, everyone is different)

False message-" this whole day has been intense cravings to fap"

Counter message (which is actual reality) I only get intense cravings for a few minutes at most, I fool myself by thinking that several of these few minute cravings means "all day". I reality, I have only had a few intense cravings today

FALSE MESSAGE: "I need to give up and fap"

REALITY: "I am not going to die or go crazy, millions upon billions of people have been in situations where they couldn't fap. The real scientific truth is that humans do not need to fap for physical or mental health, and anything that my brain tells me along these lines is a lie"

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>>16814621
FALSE MESSAGE: "The cravings wont go away until I fap!"

REALITY MESSAGE: "That is entirely unscientific. Science tells me that cravings go away whether I fap or not. Cravings come back whether I fap or not. Cravings happen in waves, if I resist, the craving eventaully gets weaker, not stronger. Just like when people quit smoking or drinking, eventually the cravings get so weak, that the neural pathways no longer fire."

>>16814629
Not Op, but my biggest issue is atm, that i made a habit out of it to fap before sleep and i have a hard time falling asleep when i dont fap, because my mind is starting to get active and fapping calms it down somehow. How to get over this issue?

>>16814629
False message: "This urge to fap is unbearable, I cannot stand it no longer"

Reality: "Not only can I stand it and suffer zero consequences to my health, but my will power will likely be stronger if I manage to resist. This urge is trying to trick me into thinking that it is exestentially important by using it's intensity."

>>16814645
Take melatonin before bed instead of fapping.

Buy it at any drug store. Your body naturally produces it in the dark, when you smoke weed, masturbate, etc. It's the hormone that makes you sleepy.

I would recommend 3-5 MG 30 min-hour before bed. When you take it make sure you turn the lights off or down low, because it activates when you are in darkness.

>>16814645
Unfortunately friend you have a both psychological habituation, and a physical habituation (chemicals/hormones)

It's not a full blown blown addiction, but the bad news is it will take suffering for the brain to readjust. There aren't many intellectual things you can tell yourself about it, except maybe "this will get easier over time"

According to how flexible your brain is, it could take maybe 5 days at the least, and 3 weeks at the most.

You can check out progressive relaxation in the meantime, which is basically tensing and then relaxing the muscle groups, it leads to muscle smoothing and endorphin release (but you wont get the dopamine and androgens)

Milk with sugar can be a big help, if you aren't obese or diabetic,

Time will definitely heal it, without a doubt. But it usually takes one or two failures.

OP here. Thanks for your advice. Sounds like it might help. I know masturbation isn't harmful to the human body or anything, but I feel bad when I do it and I'm much happier when I've gone several days without.

Don't quit, do moderation. Jerking off to much ruins jerking off, not jerking off is not fun.
Try once every so often rather than everyday out of habbit

Do a detox of no fap for a month or two then try to pace yourself.
Best way to avoid fapping is to avoid porn, competently, don't even look at it out of curiosity.
Gave it up for lent myself.

>>16814496
Depends on what you mean by complete. Ive gone years without fapping. Ive also gone months. This is without a gf. Having sex is cheating no fap.
But I normally end up fapping again because after a year or 2 Ill get a gf and we'll get to the point where we have sex again. I stop counting my no fap session once I have sex. But when we break up I get super horny and start fapping again a little or a lot. Depends on how depressed I am.
Do you want advice on how to stop the easy way.

>>16814677
You may one day consider why you make yourself feel guilty about something humans have been doing since the beginning of time

We are literally programmed to it, and you probably never had a choice.

Maybe you make yourself feel guilty about other things too? Beat yourself up?

Go easy on yourself man. You aren't an asshole, you don't go out of your way to hurt other people.

Why do you go out of the way to punish yourself over little things?

>>16814689
>not jerking off is not fun
Yes it is. My dick becomes 100 fold more sensitive and just gently touching it feels like edging.

>>16814695
Actually we are not programmed to. I only discovered masturbation when I was in high school and someone told me what porn was. I was perfectly innocent to sex until then.

I've gone 2 months with out fapping as a record. I was bein religious. I was trying to avoid the vulgar entirely and it had almost no effect on my life except for greater confidence with ppl, knowing I was being pious

>>16814706
wet dreams and masturbation will happen to young males, in complete isolation, as long as there isn't trauma.

Are you female?

And if you aren't female, how the fuck did you not start fapping until high school? You are like the .0000000000000000000000001%

A statistical outlier so vast, that with gravity waves being felt this week, I can barely stand up.

You are a gril?

>>16814723
What did you tell yourself, when you felt like fapping?

>>16814736
"Fuck no."

>>16814699
Hence why moderation is good, you don't fap for a while and your dick get it's sensitivity back. You have a great fap, blow a huge load and then go back to holding off until next time.

>>16814744
that wouldn't work for me, the word "fuck" is too sexual

>>16814750
I commend you on your wisdom, from Benjamin Franklin, to ancient Greece, to talking about fapping on 4chan......

Moderation will always pass the test of time, and be the go-to strategy of the masters.

I would wish you luck sir, but we both know that luck has nothing to do with it.

>>16814529
Yo dick will shrink. Its proven

>>16814753
It was mainly a motivation to avoid sexual thinking overall more than a mantra of a sort

>>16814773
>Yo dick will shrink. Its proven

yes, for anyone wondering, google it, yur dick actually shrinks, (not permanently)

>>16814496
Id say jerk it once a week and make it a sunday night. That way you are all wound up for friday and saturday night...if you dont get none? Pitty wack it sunday

>>16814773
Did notice it got bigger. Pious guy here

>>16814496
I know what someone's giving up for lent.

>>16814729
Ive only had 1 went dream in my entire life. Didnt masturbate until I found porn and I learned to masturbate wrong because of it. You are just making assumptions. I did get plenty of non sex related boners though.
>how the fuck did you not start fapping until high school
Because there was literally never a reason to. I didnt know what porn was. I enjoyed thinking about boobs but never thought to masturbate. Only got that from porn which btw was one of the worst things to happen to me.

Stop assuming things about all people. We just live in a sex driven environment.

>>16815184
its not assumptions, porn is a very recent thing compared to human history.

masturbation is part of human normal development, and has been from the beginning of time

you are an extremely rare outlier, if what you say is true

I am not going to waste time arguing the obvious, so I am just going to say this and leave the thread

>>16814529

but i have the urge to jerk off right now and I did it yesterday.