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Glancing at the NoFap sub-reddit, I see a weird cultishness to it, where they're talking about how noFap will fix your whole life and make you attractive and smart and shit. Any real basis to it? I'm trying not fapping at the moment to see if it affects my acne, thoughts? I really wanna fap again.
>>16807512
It's a meme, and you fell for it. There's no benefit whatsoever. Look up "The Royal Nonesuch" to understand.
nofap is the biggest meme ever made
just cut out porn
>>16807512
Yeah its real. Its more than just a placebo.
Disciplining yourself strictly for extended periods of time itself has huge benefits in improving your life.
Nofap is a particularly good one since its passive but requires huge amounts of will power.
No fap will not inherently make you a better person. But youd be surprised just how much time is wasted thinking about sex. In this aspect cutting off media will make you a better person. Secondly you are going to get incredibly strong urges to ejaculate. You are going to need to satisfy this urge somehow or replace it with something else. This is where people call it a placebo. If you refuse to fap then you will look elsewhere for relief. If you cant watch porn than you will look for real women for stimulation. Or the alternative is to distract yourself with something else. But it has to be stronger than the urge to fap so you have to commit to whatever. A lot of people go to the gym. You turn the fap energy and aim it at weights. Or it could be studies, a sport, something. It teaches you focus to overpower distracting urges.
Then theres the health benefits but that varies from person to person.
Just dont forget to run your urges away. You want to replace the sex high with runners high. It will keep your body healthy and you wont become asexual.
>>16807512
I guess it initially meant to teach self-control since we live in an age of instant-gratification porn and loser hugboxes.
>>16807512
>noFap will fix your whole life and make you attractive and smart and shit
>Any real basis to it?
There's about as much real basis to it as there are real Nigerian princes who need your help transferring their money out of the country.
Get off the internet, kid. Its making your brain soft.
Not a meme but those people are weird op. Over masturbation CAN lower your energy and drive. It's true. Cut back for a while and you'll see. Porn, for me, makes me feel like shit. Just me. I'll agree with them in that you have more energy, drive, and fewer mood swings which in turn makes you happier and more confident and thus, more attractive...maybe. Don't do it for that. Just try it and see how it affects you, it won't hurt you. Fapping isn't the end of the world either. It just seems it has more negative effects for some people more than others. If you are one of those people then you may be grateful for trying it.
>>16807583
>Nofap is a particularly good one since its passive but requires huge amounts of will power.
Only if you're a NEET. If you work a full-time job, you'll be so tired at the end of your day that you won't even think about fapping.
>>16808292
Maybe you're just low energy
I don't think there's any actual science to it, but the placebo effect is a powerful thing.
Of course, I write erotica for money, so perhaps I'm biased -- but I really don't see any reason for why it would work to help you with literally anything.
biologically we shouldn't be having sex/jacking off more than once a week.
>>16808421
Lmao and what are you basing this incredible scientific fact on?
Let's take it like this: If you fap alot your sex drive is lowered and you're less interested in girls irl. Also you spend all your energy in the act of cumming, so you're also less excited for any other thing.
If you only fap once or twice a week I see no big deal. Those on nofap are ones that probably unload twice or more a day.
>>16807512
how would not fapping make you more attractive?
that being siad, if yo uwant to fix ur acne, i recommend accutane. ive been taking it for a month and good results so far. supposedly permanent. a lot of the people i know took accutane, i just didnt know about it til i started taking it and they noticed and said hwo it did wonders for them.
if ur afraid of that, tretinoin is basically accutane applied directly to teh face, not permanent but does good wokr. pic related was me before adn after
>>16808448
Did you get the years wrong in your pic?
Glad Accutane worked for you it worked for my sister but hers eventually came back after. Doxy worked for my brother. Tretinoin is good too if you don't live where it's sunny. Remember sun protection is a must.
>>16808292
Yeah maybe if you hate your job. But thats a different problem.
>>16808448
>>16808476
errr... no? those are the right years. why?
>>16807642
There's actually a pretty good scientific basis for it. Essentially it can downregulate dopamine receptors in the brain.
I think that the people who see real success from nofap are the ones who end up avoiding the internet altogether to resist temptation because scrolling through webpages causes the same dopamine release. It's overstimulation in general that's the problem.
>>16808431
First off there is a refractory period after ejaculation that takes 36-48 hours to finish. Secondly t levels rise continuously 7 days after having ejaculation but then fall after that point.
>>16808438
Wait, twice a day is bad? At my peak I was doing 4 times a day. I'm cutting back a lot now though.
>>16808596
Twice a day is fine. Seriously dude dont listen to random strangers for health advise. If you're really that worried go see a doctor.
Pic related, you're welcome op.
>>16808552
Bullshit. Post a source. I see this everywhere posted as fact with no source.
>>16808696
http://yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do
>inb4 you dismiss this without reading it or any of the studies it cites
What you're really focusing on is the result - feeling better about yourself, improving the quality of life, and (what's most likely the main driver) getting laid.
What you're doing to achieve this result is improving discipline through abstinence. This is the same feeling of abstinence you experience when you deny yourself a second piece of cake, for example, or deny/delay a small reward. The only difference is that fapping causes you to feel a really good reward - orgasm.
Now think about this - what if discipline is like an RPG stat, and can be improved through the behavior of abstinence, and when it gets to a high enough "level" - you can start to experience those positive life changes. Would you have the patience to level up your discipline by fully denying yourself sexual release? That's very difficult. Would you have the patience to deny yourself fapping for, say a week? That one is more doable, and in fact biologically optimal. Nofap is basically that shitty dungeon you grind everyday for discipline xp and has mostly low level rare "drops" that reddit over-embellishes. How much can you take it before you get tired of it? There are better ways to improve discipline, and when it gets to that high level then limiting non-productive things like computer time, fast food, smoking, or drinking will be easy - but you can't just rely on "gear" you got from nofap to get you there.
>>16807512
No, that's retarded. People fap less when their lives improve in other aspects, not the other way around. You just feel less of a need to do it.
Masturbating relieves depression, so people who are generally depressed tend to do it more.
>>16808721
This is nofap, not noporn. That page is about porn. I can fap just as easily with my imagination and memory.
Also, you were replying to someone that said nofap (noporn?) Would fix your whole life and make you smart. That website says nothing of the sort.
Third, that page deals with the overconsumption of porn that leads to addiction and the dopamine dysfunctions in the brain that come with it. Sexual conditioning, such as beliving porn is reality, maybe happens if the person has had zero sexual experiences or read/heard stories of real sex.
Note the authors definition of addiction:
four Cs:
Compulsionto use
Continueduse in spite of adverse consequences
Inability toControluse
Craving- psychological or physical
I highly doubt most people that do nofap exhibit an inability to control their use. What it sounds like hes talking about to me are the fringe cases.
Fourth, this is a long ass page, and a lot of whats said cites other pages on his website. I am not an academic, and unless you are and can confidently analyze them all for validity and soundness I suggest you take what you read with a grain of salt.
Vaguely, yes. Cutting out excessive masturbation can improve your life in a few ways.
It does not directly fix any of them, make you more attractive, or "shoot up your testosterone levels"
>>16808779
Also, just realised this image >>16808685 talks about the website you linked and its claims
>>16808779
Oh yeah, how silly of me. Of course nobody uses porn to jack off.
>>16808815
Mate please don't rephrase what I said as an extreme. I didnt say that and you know it. Nofap implies the action of masturbation is what you stop, not porn use. You can masturbate perfectly fine without porn (or maybe you cant, in that case porn probably is the problem).
Read the multi-orgasmic man:sex secrets every man should know.
Google the pdf, it's a short book.
Basically nofap has benefits but is exaggerated. Sometimes cumming is better than not cumming. Depends how much sexual energy you have built up.
>>16807512
Not fapping is proven to shrink your dick. If you dont use it.. You lose it... Slowly but still
Fapping has benefits on the prostate
but fapping to porn causes ED.
Thats what you shouldnt do. Fap to porn.
>>16808721
>misrepresenting your own point this hard
None of this is about masturbation, Anon. It's about arousal addiction, as Zimbardo calls it. Correlation isn't causation.
The point is, yes, if you stop fapping, you also stop constantly seeking out new porn, which is what is messing with your brain chemistry. And to seek out the mental reward you crave, you then start doing "useful" shit that has more long-term rewards than just jacking it to disgusting porn.
HOWEVER, arousal addiction isn't just porn. So if you're sitting here on 4chan, F5-ing away at six different threads, you're still in the arousal addiction cycle, no matter how little you fap.
So NoFap is still bullshit. It refuses to get to the core of the problematic behaviour, assigning all blame to a single task without scientific basis. It's pseudo-science at its best.
>>16807512
not fapping wont make you into a god-like creature irresistable to women
the thing about nofap is that it should be about moderation
nothing is wrong about fapping. it is just bad if you fap 5 times a day, every day
try fapping just once every 3-4 days.
not fapping can lighten your mood, alter testosterone levels and some other shit, but its not a magic cure for everything wroung in you life
>tl:dr it might help for you acne, just try for a few weeks and see. it might not help. just fuckin try
bump, interesting subject
This whole NO-FAP movement thing is a TROLL. It's pretty fucking funny that it's moved from being a troll to people taking it seriously. You want the truth? Here you go.
Fapping is healthy. Not fapping is also healthy.
Fapping every day is probably not good. Always fapping to porn is not good. It's called moderation. When you get obsessed with fapping/porn then it's a problem. If you can't enjoy sex because you've fapped to much it's a problem.
>>16808564
Must've skipped those classes...
>>16807512
it's an excerisize in self discipline. there is no direct benefit, other than being able to become more disciplined as a person. depending on how much self discipline you already have, it may or may not be worth your time and effort. also, on a personal note, I feel less masculine if I jerk off consecutively over a period of a few days. maybe that's just me though.
>>16807512
>Glancing at the NoFap sub-reddit
stoped reading there sage
>>16807512
Haven't fapped for over a month, but didn't know about any reddit bs.
Been so fucked up hormonally that I don't give a shit about things at the moment, but I felt really pumped for doing stuff, and just a lot more awake.
Fapped the other day, now I feel like shit.
I released all that build up and it's a massive let down. I'm questioning everything i've felt, and wish I hadn't done it.
I doubt this had any effect on my external appearance but I can't take it back now.
>>16807512
its only true for people who revolve their life around sex and fapping. i fap every single day and i am the most productive person i know. you can still tap and be productive, you just need to know how to balance your time. its really not hard.
>>16807512
You guys must have zen-like concentration or some shit because after about two days of nofap my dick is like super saiyan 4 until I rub one out.
>>16812895
do you work out at all? i often felt tired as shit before working out.
>>16808596
Who the fuck has time to jack off 4 times a day?
