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Need advice for starting a faggot relationship
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So, a few months ago I realized i was also attracted to guys. big whoop.

But this isn't about me. This is about my good friend of 3 and a half years i would like to start a relationship with.

I know that there's already a heap of suggestions you guys could throw at me, a lot of them being "don't even try it will just ruin your friendship" since I imagine threads like this pop up every day.

But here's the kicker: He says he's straight, but me and my friends have caught him multiple times getting off on traps. (not irl. We caught him on webcam/screen-share; my life isn't a poorly written porno.)

I haven't told any of my friends or family that i am bi yet, and obviously he technically isn't right now. I know all of our friends and family would be okay with us both coming out, but my main fear is that he would back out because he would be so uncomfortable.

A lot of plans, may of them his own, have been aborted simply out of it being too awkward.

How do I the gay?

>inb4 take HRT and become his trap dream.

I already asked /lgbt/ and they just said "succ his cock".

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>>17340760
When you caught him jacking it to traps what was the follow up conversation like? Or did you just pretend like it didn't happen?
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>>17340808
he more or less tried to deny it the first time or two since we only brought it up afterwards, a few times later he was honest about it, we didn't mention it much. Even before i turned bi, I told him that it's nothing to be ashamed of and did my best to support him.

After a while he said (only after we had brought it up again) that he no longer liked traps.

We then caught him again like 2 weeks later, but now, maybe two months after that, he's back to the "I don't like traps" rhetoric again,
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>>17340824
weird

Well you can try talking to him one on one, the risk of course being that you would have to come out to him and seeing as this fag is so far into denial he might out you to everyone. Would you be ready for that?
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If he's into traps you'd have to be a twink or femboy to be his type. Guys generally don't break out of their preferred type. You can't seduce him or any of the sort you could with a woman.
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>>17340832
he wouldn't rat me out, and even if he did i wouldn't care too much. I just care about whether or not he'll reject me,

>>17340838
the thing is, he is a twink himself. I don't know much about this whole subculture of literal faggotry but i'm pretty sure he wouldn't date another twink.

he also never really comments about a girl being hot or anything, so I have a decent suspicion its more or less him liking peen in general.
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>>17340838
Not necessarily, I jack off to traps because I like to put myself in their place.

Also OP, I was in a similar situation a while back with my best friend of like 7 years. It was his birthday, we got drunk, and I convinced him to let me blow him. He seemed to enjoy it at the time, but he refused to acknowledge it and when I pushed the subject, saying how great we'd be together and all that shit (admittedly it was the wrong decision, but in high school some people already thought we were together, and this was before I even knew I was gay), he got angry and defensive, and now we don't talk. Moral of the story, it's a delicate situation. Handle it carefully.
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>>17340851
>>17340854
It's just how it is. Twinks are most attracted to twinks, bears to bears, otters to otters. You attract the body type you are in the same sex world.
Average guys get the short end, no one finds them attractive.
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>>17340859
I'm 5'5 and I like tall muscly guys. Checkmate atheists.
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>>17340854

we go to do outdoorsy things a lot, so i was thinking on going camping and tenting with him. we would get piss drunk and i would tell him how i feel, and hopefully the booze will work to my advantage.
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>>17340873
Well be prepared for him to not feel the same way once he's sober. Denial's a powerful motivator.
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>>17340884
I figure that if we were to do that, we would at least get into cuddling if not some mutual masturbation, and with him waking up in shock the next morning if i were to play my cards right he would be okay with at least a closeted, friends with benefits deal.
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>>17340905
That's what I thought too.

Just be careful. You might honestly be better off telling him when he's relatively sober.
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