I discovered he was looking at pictures of kids and masturbating. Not illegal pictures, pictures of kids doing normal things, having happy lives. He says he's attracted to the concept of vulnerability and being taken care of. Kids represent this concept the best. Says he's never looked at illegal content and has no desire to.
/adv/, is this bs? I believe he has no desire to harm anybody, but cannot separate the concepts of 'wanking' and 'pics of kids', no matter the context. Surely the act alone sexualises them. Can you wank to these images and not sexualise them?!
Help me adv, I feel so stupid
Well, just because he is jerking it doesn't mean he's raping kids.
But it's still a bit unnerving to say the least.
If I was told that by my husband of 7 years I don't know how I'd feel. If it was my bf of 2 or 3 it would be a deal breaker.
Good luck
>>17333532
Masterbating is a sexual act so yes your BF is a pedo and needs help asap before he moves on to the real thing
>>17333532
Pic related.
>>17333549
This ..
I don't know what advice to give here. These "fantasies" can be progressive and lead to acts. I'd suggest telling an authority figure in your life.
depends if your boyfriend is into other degenerate things.
Fapping to kids isnt shit unless hes also a shitty person t'boot. Then he is likely to get progressively worse.
>>17333549
>>17333561
You're talking about permanently ruining a man's life because he "could" escalate to something worse. It's not exactly normal, but don't start telling people.
>>17333568
Potentially ruining someones life because of obvious pedophilia fetish or potentially ruin a kids life because of said pedophilia's potential future?
Choices. Notice the usage of "potential" throughout. Silence is consent.
>>17333570
>thinking any life has more value over another
Really makes you think.
>>17333570
With all due respect, you're a fucking idiot. I have all kinds of weird fucked up fetishes, but that doesn't mean I'm going to make a dog rape my sister.
>>17333574
I think that the childs life would mean more then a potential pedos would in that the person in question has lived his life to a point where he is now flogging it off to pics of kids whereas the kid has so much left in front of him/her and doesn't even understand sexuality
>>17333574
I'm not saying either's life is more valuable. The cycle can be broken with the pedophiles, or he can potentially continue the cycle as well as bring another into said cycle.
The worst case scenario in this situation is inaction, which may potentially lead to further scenarios. The best case scenario is the revelation that the guy is not a pedophile.
>thinking any life has more value over the other
Honestly, that is a projection. If your immediate response is to defend the guy in question, then that is indeed valuing one person's life over the other.
>>17333578
It's either "you're a fucking idiot" or not, you can skip the indirect attempt to soften a written "blow" when you're merely following with an attack. I'm happy to hear about your fetishes, it's cool to know you enjoy bestiality and incest, way to add to the discussion.
>>17333532
Is this bait? If not, just take him to a therapist. Btw, how long in his life has he been doing this?
>>17333583
Seriously? How fucking sheltered are you? That's a serious question by the way, on a scale of homeschooled by Christian missionaries to raised in a bunker by Y2K "theorists" that think 9/11 was orchestrated by the lizard people, how little do you actually understand about the human mind?
He didn't "live his life to a point where he's jacking off to children", that's not how fetishes work you fucking mongoloid. If anything he was probably fucked with as a child, and that's translated into his adult life because it was his first sexual experience. I really fucking doubt he's going to act on something he's deeply ashamed of.
For the record I've been binge watching VEEP, the insults are just pouring out of me.
>>17333570
If I was in the position of OP then yes I would risk ruining this persons life in the hope of protecting children. If he wasn't masterbating it would've been very different
>>17333594
Thanks for completely ignoring the point of my post, care to take another shot at it? I'll give you double or nothing.
>>17333598
"If he wasn't masterbating it would've been very different"
Thanks Sherlock. I'd like to take this opportunity to reiterate that HE'S NOT FUCKING HURTING ANYONE JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
>>17333601
You're suggesting I should digest you calling me a "fucking idiot," read through your sarcasm, and then analyze the point you're trying to make?
What would be the point of that? If I am a "fucking idiot," as you've suggested, why are you concerned that I missed your point?
>>17333608
I'm in literal awe. I just stared at my monitor for a solid 20 seconds.
OP, please don't take this thing's advice. I honestly doubt it has enough chromosomes to be considered human.
>>17333597
Haha just watched a trailer to VEEP looks pretty good bra.
But yeah nah I've lived a pretty sheltered life till about 5 years ago and it is my opinion that that guy needs help asap whether that be the psych or police
>>17333596
I wish it was bait. I'm in shock and I'm so so confused. My heart loves him and wants to help and knows he hates this part of him; my brain says KIDS. Red fucking flag.
He's a lovely guy, he tries very hard to be a better person; therapy, gym, open minded. Suffers awful mental health though, and has been doing this since childhood.
>>17333615
Quite frankly, I'm surprised it only took you 20 seconds of staring.
>she didn't give advice OP!!1
>but don't take her advice anyways!
kek
>>17333621
If he has mental health issues as you suggest, do you know if he has mentioned it to a therapist? Do you think you could convince him to (and go with him) and just seek advice?
>>17333604
Thankfully he's not hurting anyone yet but the potential for it to escalate is pretty real
>>17333619
Key words there being sheltered life. Don't give advice like this about shit you don't understand.
>>17333621
If you don't want to permafuck an innocent man's life, I'd humbly suggest you leave it alone and see if it gets worse. If he starts acting suspicious and leaving in the middle of the night and shit, then confront him about it. Do not, repeat DO NOT contact an authority figure. Understand?
>>17333625
You done?
>>17333634
In what fucking universe? OP has stated that he hates that part of himself, as do most people with that specific fetish, mostly because it's almost always linked to early childhood molestation or rape that they themselves were the victim of. Again, you are talking about permanently ruining this guy's life, for something he will probably never do.
>>17333640
How do you know this is something he will not act on? Because you don't let your dog fuck your sister?
Stop giving terrible advice and do some basic research. Most people who are ashamed, and end up carrying out these acts, WHILE STILL ASHAMED OF THEM, end up killing their victims instead of simply raping/molesting.
You can always tell when a poorly educated basement dweller generalizes everyone based off their own anecdotal experiences.
>>17333649
Basic research? Please, show me this research. Give me the specific article that says the exact load of GOP flavored bullshit with sprinkles and strawberry syrup that you just typed.
>>17333631
This is where my gut isn't settled.
He has seen a therapist for a year. He hasn't mentioned it to the therapist. He fears being judged. I'm the only person he's ever told.
When we talked about his porn he said he wanted to keep private the particulars of it. It's a private world he feels safe in.
I believe him when he says it's not illegal content but why wouldn't you tell your therapist this??
>>17333649
Honestly do you even think before you say things? I mean look at the sentence that you just posted. I just want you to take a second, and look at it.
And then if you could get around to that other post you made a big show of ignoring for no apparent reason, that'd be cool. And for bonus points, address the point I was making instead of saying some random bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Is OP the same woman who's fiancée was playing with his niece.
>>17333662
You said it yourself, it's a part of himself that he hates. He's been living with it for so long, his first instinct is to hide it, no matter who he's talking to. And understandably so.
>>17333655
Yes. Go have a look at the profiles of Gacy, Dahmer, Dean Corll, and form your own opinion.
And I don't mean "articles" written by some right-wing fan club. Go access yours or a friends campus research library. Form your own conclusion based upon something (empirical evidence) other than you not fucking your sister.
>>17333675
What the fuck do you think?
>>17333675
no. I'm particularly confused because he says that he finds cp abhorrent and would hate himself if he found himself sexually attracted to kids. But how can you use pictures of kids as fap material and not sexualise them? Even if it is some 'high concept' thing, surely years of doing it would have an effect on the brain
>>17333635
I was the first guy you responded to, it seems as though you have first hand experience in this matter but why would you ask OP to just leave it and see where is goes? Surely you would reach out to them if you were their partner no?
>>17333680
So you admit that you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever, and you just pulled your information out of your ass? Good, glad we've settled this.
>>17333662
Look, if he has told you and admitted this to you, and refuses to give you the particulars of his "collection" after talking about everything else with you, I can totally understand why you are concerned.
OP, I'm being honest when I say this, but with what you've said, there is real reason for alarm here. You have to disregard people telling you this is not a problem and you shouldn't tell anyone. It's clearly an issue that needs to be addressed.
>>17333692
She's already spoken to him about it, and it's obvious that it makes him uncomfortable so why stress what's already kind of a shitty situation? The number one thing that could (hypothetically, just playing devil's advocate) push him to escalate would be making a big deal of it. You know what's not going to cause anything seriously out of the norm to happen? Not doing anything seriously out of the norm.
>>17333690
Well does it matter? It's obvious it's out of his control, and he's doing everything in his power to stop it, or at the very least keep it contained.
>>17333662
I'm pretty sure there's some things that even if you told a therapist in confidentiality like how you jerk off to legal pics of kids that they could report you to the authorities if they believed you were a threat to others
>>17333694
You're an angry little person, aren't you? The only thing that is settled, until you properly address it, is that you're trying to sway OP's opinion and have her not deal with the issue properly, all because you fantasize of your sister fucking dogs.
>>17333692
well.. this is the thing. I know I wrote BF but I broke it off... this only happened over the past few days. I saw my own psyche and came to the conclusion I couldn't ever have kids with him because of this. And it breaks my heart to pieces, because we got along so well and had a very supportive relationship. Part of me feels like I just dropped a hot potato and ran, and I didn't try to understand it... and now I'm hurting so much and missing him, I'm trying to find any shade of grey to excuse it to get back my relationship that was so nice.
>>17333700
He's given literally every indication AGAINST hurting, touching, or even going near children, lets make sure everyone in every neighborhood he goes to knows that he has a fucked up part of his head that he's not in control of.
What part of "you are going to permafuck his life" do you not get?
>>17333694
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer#Early_life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Corll
>>17333700
thank you for your words, I just need to keep telling myself it's concerning through the cloud of emotions that can't see straight
Given I am now an ex-gf, is it even appropriate to ask him if/when he intends to bring it up with his psychologist? in the break up talk, he did start to come around to the idea of talking about it with his therapist and we do intend to remain friends (though I am so heartbroken it will be very difficult at first)
>>17333706
He's very clearly not a threat to others.
>>17333708
Keep milking that straw man, come back when you have something meaningful to contribute.
>>17333710
Don't break off contact completely, if only for his sake. However shitty you're feeling, I can guarantee he's feeling a lot worse.
>>17333711
You've obviously never studied any form of psychology and clearly do not understand that some issues can cause severe damage to a person when repressed. The ISSUE has to be addressed for the individual to conquer it. Stuffing it deep down inside only creates a bigger monster.
I've got nothing else to say to you.
>>17333710
>I couldn't ever have kids with him because of this.
That's fair and likely isn't going to change. Unless you're okay with never having children there isn't really a solution.
>>17333713
So you admit that you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever, and you just pulled your information out of your ass? Good, glad we've settled this.
>>17333714
It's not concerning. Please go back through the thread and read everything that isn't meant to induce panic and self-hatred, he honestly seems significantly more likely to hurt himself than to ever touch a child.
>>17333719
I'm not saying not to see a therapist, I just lumped you into the group that's calling for police intervention.
>>17333532
>I discovered he was looking at pictures of kids and masturbating.
Well that's pretty fucking upsetting.
>Not illegal pictures, pictures of kids doing normal things, having happy lives. He says he's attracted to the concept of vulnerability and being taken care of. Kids represent this concept the best. Says he's never looked at illegal content and has no desire to.
Without falling into the trap of making the worst assumptions about your bf and viewing everything he says or does through a lens of suspicion, I don't think you can place much faith in the truth of things a person says after one discovers him masturbating while looking at pictures of kids.
>Can you wank to these images [of children] and not sexualize [children]?!
It's a complicated world where some really unusual sexual fetishes are possible, but I don't think the answer to this question is your real issue.
Your real issue is, what action, if any, do you have a responsibility to take, after catching your bf masturbating while looking at pictures of kids.
The answer is, you have a responsibility to insist that he see a therapist, perhaps one of your choosing, and to inform the therapist yourself of the reason you want him to receive therapy.
It is the therapist's responsibility to determine whether your bf represents a threat to children, and to notify the authorities if so.
You are not a trained professional. The fallout from exposing your bf's masturbation material is severe enough that you should not do so without knowing whether it is necessary.
However, if your bf resists seeing a therapist, exposing his masturbation material to the world is exactly what you must threaten to do, and it must be a threat on which you are prepared to follow through.
>>17333726
In what situation would it be necessary? Threatening him won't make him stop, that's not how the human brain works. It's not something he can turn off, you'd ultimately be driving him to suicide.
>>17333723
You clearly cannot see you're arguing with like 3 different people, thinking it's the same person.
Is the anger that bad?
>>17333730
Please stop trying to make this about you.
>>17333723
I don't think he would harm a kid, and he's not violent or mean, he's really a genuinely nice individual and has self harmed in the past. I guess I can't understand how you can simultaneously hold a stance against CP but also perform a sexual act revolving around kids.
>>17333715
New info from OP keeps popping up leading me to suspect this is all just BS, however, now that she has broken up with him he'll be more vulnerable and more inclined to act on impulse
>>17333725
I was the one asking you to look at the profiles of people who don't address these issues, because it is a possibility, at the same time I was trying to tell OP to talk him into a therapy session to address it. But you're kind of on a tangent with all this and just shitposting, desu.
>>17333729
I'm not sure you read my entire post. I kindly suggest you do so, and then see if it answers your question.
>>17333726
Just want to clarify that I didn't catch him; it was a conversation where I again prodded him about why he was reluctant to tell me what porn he watched. He could have lied but told me the truth, I guess. He got distressed and was hesitant when I tried to find out more specifics about the content
>>17333738
I like to get rammed in the ass and treated like a little bitch by tall, strong men. But since it has nothing to do with who I am as a person and it's honestly kind of embarrassing, I tend to keep it to myself in most casual social situations. Same goes for everyone else's sexual perversions, we all have them and they're all deeply inconvenient. His is just...moreso.
>>17333745
OP, you should guide him to a therapist to address this. That is the only viable solution here. I've got nothing else to add to the thread, I hope you do the right thing, for your sake and his.
>>17333745
Hey I've got a crazy idea, just hear me out ok? How about you stop bullshitting, just make up a story and just stick to it.
>>17333532
i'm very curious... how would you describe your body type? are you short? small breasts/ ass? young looking face?
>>17333741
You were the one who's defense was to name off the three worst case scenarios in human history and call it a universal fact, and you're calling me a shitposter?
>>17333742
I read it, I'm just saying in no situation would it be productive to threaten exposing him. The question in my post was rhetorical.
>>17333745
So he even admitted it to you of his own free will. I really have nothing more to say on the matter, therapy seems like the best option. Just don't fuck his life up over nothing, he's already in a remarkably shitty place mentally.
>>17333755
I see where you're going with that... good question.
>>17333758
Is it though?
>>17333745
That certainly puts things in a different light, but I think my advice stands.
Feel free to tell him that you appreciate him trusting you enough to tell you as much as he did. It seems as though you do.
Tell him he was right to trust you with that information, and that you will not be careless with information that could, more or less, destroy him, but that you have a responsibility to make sure that he is not a threat to children, and that, despite all the trust you have in him, only a trained professional will be able to assure you of that.
And then insist he see a therapist. If the therapist is able to tell you, 'he's got a weird fetish alright, but he's no threat to children,' then you can start to move forward from there. But there's no point in analyzing the future of your relationship before a trained professional gives you the all clear.
>>17333754
? nothing I've said in this thread is contradictory? I wish this was a story. I wish I didn't have to come to 4chan of all places, because I can't exactly tell my friends or family. At least on 4chan it'll disappear into the ether of the internet.
>>17333755
I'm a normal looking woman, normal breasts, look mid 20s. He says he watches normal porn too so no, I'm not some kind of substitute
>>17333756
Those are 3 extremes, but they are well-known, and the fact is there are literally thousands of cases, although not on that scale, that make up psychological profiles.
Yes, you're a shitposter. Who fucks his sister, with his dog.
>>17333756
>I read it, I'm just saying in no situation would it be productive to threaten exposing him.
It would be productive if it motivates him to see a therapist, which it very likely would.
>>17333755
Picturing a cute 23-26yo petite brunette with C/D's and a desk so cramped she has to pull her elbows in just to type making her tits look huge
>>17333760
Again, threatening him will do absolutely nothing to change his behavior. It's only going to drive him TOWARDS the things you're worried about, or it's going to make him try to kill himself.
OP, don't fuck his life up. Please. For the sake of everyone involved, yourself included, don't be a dumb cunt and threaten to expose him.
>>17333766
Then show me evidence...? Oh and then tell me how it cross references with the total reported cases, and then the estimates for the total reported and unreported cases on a yearly basis (preferably from a recent study).
>>17333710
That was a potential sign of him being abused as a child, and he had developed shame about it - there are no shades of grey, it would have been quite hard to rise a family with him, and you aren't the right person to get him to open up about what happened.
Leaving him was the right choice, now he has a chance to fix himself and try again with someone else.
Next time, try to get a non-abused bf. abused bfs are relationships on hard mode.
>>17333760
thank you. I did tell him that I wouldn't tell anybody except my own psychologist, which he actually encouraged me to do after the initial reveal. I also tried to encourage him to tell his psychologist, but given this was during the break up talk I'm not sure I can 'follow up' as it were.
I guess I needed an anonymous sounding board and I'm thankful for the comments. Given we intended to stay friends I guess I will ask him if he told his psyche or not; if he decides not to share that info now I'm an ex remains to be seen.
>>17333768
He's already willing to see a therapist, why would you antagonize him? Jesus fucking christ, you're the one who claims to have a background in psychology? Well I'm an addictions counsellor, and I know one thing to be universally true. Treat an addict like a criminal, and they'll prove you right. Treat an addict like a human being with a problem they can't stop on their own, and they'll be much more open to getting help/
>>17333532
OP, I hate to break it to you but from what you are describing your BF is by definition a pedophile. Basically, he is sexually attracted to children because adult relationships are too complicated and scary. There is no cure, no magic pill, no amount of therapy, that can "fix" him. For pedophiles, the only goal of therapy is to reduce the chance that he might act on his fantasies. You will never be his "type" sexually, and it is not something that he will ever grow out of.
You need to end it and move on ASAP. Do you ever want children? How would you handle the constant fear that he might act out his sexual urges on them? What would you do if you found a secret stash of videos of your neighbors children? Is that really a life that you want to have?
>>17333789
Read the thread, then realize everything you've said has been said before several times, and leave.
>>17333789
Also you have no fucking idea what you're talking about, there's not even a word for the level of armchair psychology you're using right now.
>>17333781
>it would have been quite hard to rise a family with him
haha laughed to hard reading that line haha oh you!
>>17333783
OP, you did the right thing. You have a life to live too.
>>17333774
I'm not sure where the communication breakdown is occurring.
I only ever suggested she threaten to expose him if he resists or refuses to see a therapist.
He must see a therapist, because it must be determined whether he is a threat to children, and only a trained professional is equipped to make that call. Unless she is, herself, a trained professional, she cannot determine with any reliability whether he is a threat to children. More to the point, the bf himself cannot be trusted to know whether he is a threat to children. It's entirely possible for someone to be a threat to children and be incapable of realizing it. A trained professional *must* be brought into this. There is no way around that.
Perhaps threatening to expose him should only be a last resort, I can admit this much. But if it comes to that last resort, that threat must be used, and must be meant.
And if she fails to convince him to see a therapist, then yes, she has a responsibility to expose him.
>>17333758
well if she even somewhat fits that description i'm going to think pedo
>>17333804
I could say the exact same thing to you, I honestly don't know what you're not understanding about this.
You could threaten to throw him into Guantanamo, it's not going to change anything. She doesn't have a responsibility to expose him because a) he has shown every sign of NOT, repeat NOT acting on these urges, b) he has stated that not only is he disgusted by actual child pornography, but he hates the part of himself that masturbates to pictures of children in the first place, and c) HE'S NOT FUCKING HURTING ANYONE.
You can expose him to the secret fucking service, it's only going to make things worse. No matter what.
No, shut up. I said no matter what. I know, only if he refuses therapy. It will still only cause a negative chain reaction of events.
Right now there is nothing to 'expose' insofar as, if he is telling the truth (which I believe he is)... he is not doing anything illegal. My psychologist informed me of her duty of reporting, and also said that she couldn't report at this stage because nothing indicates illegality or intent. He is also seeing a therapist with regularity... whether the breakup will be additional encouragement alongside my urging to talk about it with his therapist is up to him but I suspect it will be the next stage in his journey.
I mean yes, it is awful and something doesn't sit right in my gut and it's why I broke up with him but I also believe he wants to make himself better.
thank you for your comments guys, I'm going to bed now. I appreciate having you to talk to; it's been very hard and this makes me feel a little better.
What the fuck? Even if he's not a pedophile, he's a fucking weirdo who needs to go slice his wrists over a printed out live journal post. You have shit taste in men OP.
>>17333769
C/D's?
>>17333819
You're welcome. If you really want to help him, keep in touch. He'll need a friend.
>>17333832
Compact Discs.
>>17333839
Well then, don't you sound like a chipper young sociopath.
>>17333846
What was that? Also, will OP reach a final solution?
>>17333868
It's over, go circle over another relationship's carcass. OP left.
>>17333532
OP, follow the advice given in the thread about reporting to a trained professional.
Abuse laws in the U.S., in regards to children, are very unforgiving. Anyone with knowledge of abuse pertaining to U.S. Code 1466A could be prosecuted for failing to report this to a trained professional, that includes any act that extends beyond your initial obtainment of knowledge.
Tell a therapist immediately about your concerns, as you could be held liable in both a civil and criminal manner for not disclosing what you know.
Good luck, OP.
Source: Lawyer
>>17333846
Sorry, pal. I've read the thread and I can only assume you're the person telling her the "act is innocent as he hasn't harmed anyone." Actually, it's a felony under our laws, and since you come off as a pedophile in your staunch defense of the subject, I'd suggest read our laws before you yourself get caught up in your way of thinking.
>>17333869
I see. But what happened here>>17333846
>>17333888
I posted similar to >>17333887 but deleted it to edit. /iphoneproblems
>>17333895
Kek. I have an android
>>17333621
Do you plan on staying with him and having kids?
>>17333532
Just because he has pedophilic tendencies doesnt mean he will act out on them, only a fraction of pedophiles do. If he's a nice guy and you love him then you should forgive.
>>17333948
I wouldnt necessarily have kids with him though
>>17333532
Please nip this in the bud and have him arrested, make up a charge if you have to. No pedophile deserves a good life, active or no. Any harm that comes to him now is proper punishment for his inevitable future crimes.
>>17333939
Lol just read the rest nvm
>>17333815
I would like to politely ask that you please calm down. Clearly you're a rational person. Please be a calmly rational person.
I understand that your stance is, very solidly, "no good can come from threatening to expose him."
I understand very well that that is your stance.
I also disagree with that stance.
If her goal is to get him to see a therapist, she has many methods at her disposal to encourage him to do so, and however much you might be against it, exposing him is clearly, clearly one such method at her dosposal. "See a therapist, or I will have to tell someone about this."
Should it be the first method she tries? Absolutely not. I think your arguements have shown me that it should be the very last method she tries. But you seem to be argueing that it should not be tried at all, under any circumstances, and I cannot agree with that arguement.
She has a responsibility to get him to see a therapist. Failing that, she has a responsibilty to inform other people, who can help her to get him to see a therapist.
It is never okay for her to say, "well, I've tried everything and he really doesn't want to go. I can't tell anyone else this thing I know because that would be a violation if his trust. Also, I tried my best to get him to see a therapist, so I'm off the hook now."
Until he sees a therapist, one which she herself has told about what she knows, she is still on the hook for this.
Perhaps it is the word, "threaten" that is tripping us up. I don't mean it in an intimidation sense. I mean it in the sense that she needs to inform him what the consequences will be should he refuse to see a therapist. The consequences are that she will be forced to tell someone else about what she knows, in the hope that this other person will be able to help convince him to see a therapist.
>>17333953
It's already an arrest worthy crime. Prosecutors could argue that although the photos may not be widely interpreted as suggestive, they can base the crime of him masturbating to any photo of a child as suggestive based upon his sole interpretation/visualization.
>>17333983
Good, then I hope he gets locked up soon, and I hope his years there will either be in perpetual solitary, or otherwise "routinely invasive".
This asshole shouldn't be allowed to sleep anymore.
>>17333983
>It's a crime to imagine illegal things
No, it most certainly is not.
>>17333982
Hi, anon. You've given the best advice here and I wouldn't worry too much with the anon you are trying to convince otherwise. As a lawyer, I fully understand what you're trying to convey and she does have a responsibility to report this as you have mentioned.
I just hoped she fully understands, that if anything ever comes of this, and she fails to report it properly, they will only have to ask him one question implicate her in any of his future endeavours; and that question is as simple as "have you told anyone about this?"
>>17334002
Nobody has mentioned his imagination in any such context, he is masturbating to photos of children, that can/will be interpreted as a criminal act.
>>17334004
I meant to ask lawyer anon: how do you feel about the retards here who fap to clearly underage cartoon porn? The people here that do seem really arrogant.
>>17333532
Push him in front of a moving car.
>>17334010
There is no law against masturbating to non-erotic photos of children, that I am aware of.
The act of masturbating to the images does not somehow *make* them erotic.
>>17334027
I don't feel any certain way about it, to each his own. I do know U.S. law is very much against the possession of it, though, which I am not in favor of, as the same people who are against such "possession" are also owners of figurine type statues that can/do depict underage children, but rarely held accountable for it.
My chiming in was to state the realities of the situation in a legal context, nothing more.
>>17334036
>The act of masturbating to the images does not somehow *make* them erotic.
That *definitely* can viewed as interpreting the material as "erotic." Courts will NOT view it in a context unrelated to anything but the subject/defendant's state of mind, not YOUR definition of what is erotic.
>>17334056
I ask because some seemed really forceful for us to accept their interests. Also I never knew that tgat shit can extend to statues
>>17334064
The courts will indeed not use my definition of what is erotic; they will use their own.
There are firm legal definitions for what constitutes erotic imagery. So long as material falls outside of these definitions, the law does not care if an individual finds it erotic or masturbates to it, provided they do so in private.
It is not illegal to eroticize children. It is only illegal to posses child erotica, which is legally defined independantly of an individual's connection to it.
If this were not the case, it would be possible for an image to be considered child erotica for one person and not child erotica for another.
>>17334085
Yes, it's pretty ridiculous when you look at the entire scope of the law.
Imagine drawing 2 stick figures having sex, put above 1 stick figure "boy age 8" and above the other figure "girl age 7". Congrats, you're officially violating 1466A of U.S. code and in possession of child pornography.
>>17334100
I have previously considered this, and wondered whether a popular enough artist or celebrity, publically drawing an image such as you described, would be succesful in exposing this law as absurd.
If, for example, Trey Parker and Matt Stone declared that they would publically draw children engaged in a sexual act, in defiance of this law, and then drew stick figures so ambiguous that without the context of their statements, one could not say with certainty that the drawing depicts children nor sexual acts, what would the outcome be? They admit openly that the drawing depicts minors involved in a sexual act, yet should push come to shove, they can easily reverse their statements, or even tape themselves in advance explaining that they intend to draw stick figures of adults in a non-sexual situation, and only pretend that they have drawn pictures of children in a sexual situation, something it would not be illegal to do.
It would lay bare the fact that the law is, in fact, attempting to make it illegal to think certain thoughts, or have and ecpress certain opinions, which is a blatant overreach of goverent.
>>17334100
Kek. And somewhere, a 4chan faggot will Cum buckets to that
>>17333532
Okay. Do you want to have kids in future? Imagine having kids with this person. What would stop him fapping to his own kids? What could stop him into going further than that.. kids are there... you might not be always there. If kids in those pictures did nothing illegal/sexual, maybe he was attracted to the kid themselves not the act they where doing. Example - fapping to celebrity, u fap not because they do something hot/sexual but because you find them physically attractive. He might feel same way to children. Believe me, this is NOT OKAY. Bet for you is leave this guy and make sure if you see or notice him doing anything illegal, best is to go and inform someone about it.
