>>17332686
If 2 of your animals have the same problem, something is wrong with your fucking yard/environment. Holy shit. Do you live on top of a garbage heap? Maybe have a wastewater runoff creek in your yard?

Jesus Christ. If one vet wasn't helpful, you have a shit vet. When a person gets sick and a doctor can't help, they don't just go home and say "oh well." They go get a second opinion from another doctor.

Take both of your animals to a NEW vet. Not just any vet, but a vet that is highly recommended and has the best ratings when you do a search for your city's options.

Be sure to tell them you think your shitty house/yard might be to blame, since you let your animals live with this for so long.

>>17332699
This

>>17332699
To be fair they have been to every vet within 50km and still nothing so we are resorting to home treatment. On both of them we have spent $25,000 (one has soaked up $15,000). THe home has no problem. Been checked over by professionals and it has been said we are clear from anything bad. One dog sits in the synthetic grass pen we made and the Great Dane sits in the grass.

I treat the great dane 2-3 times a week as I am never usually home. The other dog and other times are tended to by my mum.

>>17332699
Vets keep giving the same bullshit response. Awkwardly looking at us saying, "oh that didn't work? Here, try this stuff! It's only $250."

Thing is all of our vets are fucking useless and don't seem to want to properly help them. They know this has been going on for ages. The other dog has them on her paw but this one, looks less grotty but i'm expecting it to be the same thing but not on the bottom of the paw. Their living conditions are rather luxurious.

>>17332699
By all means call me irresponsible but when every vet they go to tries to sell me meds and no real solution then yeah it's annoying. Just got back from a vet trying to sell me more meds. Not anymore because they aren't doing shit.

>>17332743

goto a vet attached to an animal shelter, preferably government or animal control type, not just a private vet.

and i say environmental cause, too.

>>17332686
it's called a "hot spot"

google

>>17332686

Right, vet student here, so please don't take anything I say as a bible.

If it's a skin issue, which it appears to be if there's nothing coming up on the x-ray, then there could almost be a million differentials. What testing have they done OP? Have they taken a skin scrape? Allergy testing? I take it his bloods are all fine? Is she on some pain killers for management?

You need to find a vet willing to go through the differentials, have you thought about seeing a specialist dermatologist?

>>17332743
>dog has problem, probably treated with medication
>the vet just wants to sell me meds!

>>17332962
OP, it looks like a hot spot to me too, has this been addressed?

>>17333002
Honestly i know what the op means, our vet will prescribe meds shes given us before and didnt work because she cant even be assed to check the sogs history. Vets are fucking jewish

My apologies I have left for a little bit. Traffic was real bad. 15 min drive in peak hour is like 1 hour.

Hot spots. I have never been informed of a hot spot or what it was until now. I have just had meds thrown at me to shove down her throat. Being honest they never actually recommended it was anything besides a fix by prescription medication.

Thanks for the responses so far. I am just happy nobody has got onto the bandwagon for "abuse". These dogs mean a lot and I recently got a new puppy. A Husky. Although the older dog is a boxer and what she has is common when they age from what I understand the great dane I think may have what was described as a hot spot. Could be worth a shot at trying treatments for that, seeing the current meds are not working.

Thing is I do not want anything like this, if it were contagious to be developed on the Husky. It's painful to watch a lively dog in pain become essentially a potato when the pain strikes.

>>17333057

It could be a hot spot, it might not be- you won't know until you see a new vet willing to do some diagnostics.

You need to find a new vet that will start doing stuff like skin scrapes, allergy testing etc. Don't be a Dr Google owner please- I'm >>17332978
, skin problems could be almost anything. Go find a new vet and get some differentials done, then your vet can put on you the best course of treatment.

>>17333057

On a related note, have you asked for any pain relief from your current vet? I'm quite frankly appalled he/she has not offered you any of the pain is as bad as you are suggesting. What meds HAS he put your dog on?

>>17333062
>>17333068
I am not the vet person but I sometimes make the run. My mum opted me not to buy more meds when I had to do the rare run to the vet. As uni is not on right now I can.

I believe that there is mild pain relief and suggestions to keep her out of the dirt, make sure she does not lick, etc.

There has been a few different meds in the past that had not worked. But like I said I am not the one tending to the dog 24/7. For me to recall what we had months back is not possible. I believe it may have been skin meds and different brand pain relievers.

Unfortunately a lot of the time nobody is home so she is seen through the early morning and after 6 at night. Thats during uni. But seeing uni is not on I wanna try get on top of it.

>>17333095

Then you need to take her to a new vet- which area of the UK are you in? I'm a UK vet student myself, so might be able to make some suggestions.

Included throwaway email address if you'd prefer.

>>17333106
I am in Australia, Brisbane. Yeah a lot of the vets seem to just dismiss us and try different brands if one does not work. Kinda annoying. Like, a vet suggested amputating a leg of the older dog just because there was a sore on it.

ANYHOW; if you wish to email me. [email protected] is an email I use for one of many alias' I use online.

>>17333016
Please stop with this utter ignorant shit.

Unlike doctors, vets don't have patients that can tell them what is wrong. They have to perform the duty of a pathologist and just try to guess. Guessing requires blood profiles, tests, exams, x-rays.

Unlike a hospital, all of this equipment and processing comes from the vet's own profits. You don't have a hospital with all this equipment and staff at your disposal. Many meds and procedures in animal medicine are the exact same as human, seeing as we are animals too. They are distributed by the same pharma companies, same med supply manufacturers. Guess what? They charge the same price as human medicine.

Many owners are very combatant with price, because it is outlandish. I have worked for 3 verternairians, and for most patients with expensive procedures they make zero profit on drugs. Meaning they charge you the same as they paid for it, in bulk. This was 3 different vets, 1 small animal, 1 small/rodent and herp exotic, and 1 livestock vet.

Because of low prescription rate, they don't get the same bonuses as a doctor for prescribing a certain amount of meds to a version number of clients. Because they work with the same companies.

I'm sick of this blame game. Think a bit before you lash out.

Also, think a bit before taking a pet into your life. Like a child, it relies on you utterly and only turns out the way it does because of you.

i'll be going again for a bit but I will be returning soon. Thanks to all responses currently and present. If this has not been pruned or runs off the page (doubt that), I will be back.

>>17333130
Your comment makes me feel like the better vets we more regularly see are doing the best they can. I appreciate the work these vets do but if your child had sores on their feet that did not heal and you spent so much time, money, etc into fixing it not to know if it's permanent or can be fixed and how it's annoying.

I asked my mum. She said the vet said it was a skin irritation by the way. Currently there is also some anti-bacterial spray or something being used. Much like a child also, if the problem persists and you watch them lift their leg and limp a bit it's not a fun thing to see.

>>17333159
Agreed, I am glad you see it that way. I am sorry I seemed aggressive. I am a vet tech and I feel like dropping out of the profession because 1/3 of my job is haggling /nagging. I didn't further my education into vet school because the debt wasn't worth it.

I'm glad to see vet students contributing, they can do more than I can.

I can speculate, though. Recent change outside in the yard? (Mosquito sprayers, pesticides, new neighbors using new fertilizer or stuff) As others suggested, have hot spots been looked into? In one state in the USA in the Deep South near the Gulf I worked, and saw many a dog with hot spots on the legs and flank.

Maybe even grass allergy. Allergies can randomly develop well into adolescence or adulthood for individuals in many species. My spouse developed a raw banana allergy at 25. I saw a cat develop grass allergies at 4 years old.

Again, sorry for my earlier aggression.