>>17321528
piece of shit car sell it

>>17321545
why is it a bad car?

>>17321528
Yeah, I'd sell it then go buy a car of Craigslist BUT bring a friend who knows shit about cars, test drive it, listen for weird noises and shit, all that good stuff.

I would sell it pay off the loan and then downgrade if you aren't gonna use it much then it doesn't seem worth it

>>17321546
just look at it

>>17321548
>>17321550
why would you guys downgrade?

>>17321628
Because I don't give a shit about upgrading or downgrading.

I would rather have a shitty looking car that is reliable and has good mileage than anything "nice".

>>17321636
but this car is reliable and has a good mileage too

>>17321656
But it's a Buick

I have a corolla myself and they are really good cars

>>17321628
Not them but I came to say it depends. If you can easily afford the payments it might be good for your credit.

But in my shoes I would sell it and buy something that you may have to spend money on repairs initially but you wouldn't have a payment on every month.

>>17321659
>But it's a Buick
what's bad about that?

>>17321660
I can afford the payments, I'd still buy something along the 10k range if I do decide to sell the car

>>17321673
For 10k you can get something more reliable than that.

To answer your question, the car is crappy because its a GM SUV, the parts are poor quality and they will break. And since it's a luxury brand, when the parts DO break, and they WILL, they'll be very expensive to replace.

Sell it and get a gently used Honda or Toyota for $10k.

>>17321894
>Honda or Toyota

Second this. Have owned a lot of cars. Current primary vehicle is a Honda.
Reliable as fuck. Cheap to service.

>>17321528
It doesn't seem like an ideal car for a young person, generally young people are better suited with something affordable, safe and (depending on social situation and preferences) aesthetic. If you're a uni student girls won't care about your car much.

If I was you I'd sell it, then once you actually have your licence get something in $10k range (provided you have the knowledge/friend to choose a good used car), or a new corolla or sth similar.

>>17321528
I'm not an expert on cars, and I've actually never heard of the particular one you have (I'm not in the US), but as a guide there are two kinds of car worth owning.

The first is cars that are between 0 and 3 years old. Both my cars (well, my wife's car and mine, I paid for them both) are in this bracket, as were our last ones, as our next ones will be.

The reason these are worthwhile is it's unlikley anything will go wrong, and if it does, the manufacturer will foot the bill. I recently had a conversation with my father in law who thought I was deliberatley trying to squander all my money. He was taken back that I paid £38k for my car last year, knowing full well that when I sell it next year I'll likley get £28k back. Thing is, I'm certain I'll "only" loose £10k on it. If I'd bought one out of warranty, say a 5 year old one for £25k, I may have lost less on devaluation, but if the engine went pop, that'd be another £8k out of my own pocket I'd never get back.

The other type of car worth owning is those under £1,500. When something goes wrong, you take it to the nearest backstreet garage and ask the guy how much it'll be to fix it. If it's £200 or less you get it fixed, if it's over £201 you ask him how much he'll give you for the car then go and buy another one.

Anything outside of those brackets you want to stay away from. Let's say you own a 7 year old £10k car, and the engine dies. Do you scrap it and loose £10k, or pay out £5k for a new engine? What do you do next month when the gearbox explodes? Scrap the car with a brand new engine, or pay out £3k for a new gearbox?

>>17321933
Many of these worst-case scenarios can be avoided by doing your homework or purchasing from a legit dealer. Of course you can never completely discount the possibility that something will go horrendously wrong but as long as you stick to reliable models you can get good value buying a used vehicle between those two price extremes.

>I'm not an expert on cars
It shows.

>>17321528
All these non-car experts talking shit.

I actually am a car expert and here is my two bits.
I don't like the buick enclave. I don't like car loans. I really don't like owing money while not working (unless you are mixing uni and a job). In your shoes, I would sell the car and get a cheap beater off craiglist and save your money until you can cash buy a really nice car that fits your needs.

BUT!

Being the guy in uni that has a car that can move things can open up a lot of doors for you. You can do road trips. You can take groups bigger than 4 to concerts. You can be the guy who picks up the ikea furniture. It sounds dumb but being that guy can actually make you a lot of friend and maybe even some important connections. I like lightweight suv's for that reason. If the loan has really good terms, maybe keep it?

>>17321953
>as long as you stick to reliable models you can get good value buying a used vehicle between those two price extremes
That's very true, and I probably should have prefreaced my post with "For me, there are two...".

I guess a lot of it comes down to what you acdtually want from a car. PEace of mind is a big factor for me - I want to know that it's going to work, or in the unlikley event that it doesn't I can just call the number on the back of the sun visor and someone will come and make it work. I'f you have the knowledge and are willing to put the effort in I'm sure older cars can be worthwhile (if they weren't, people would just set their cars on fire the day after the manufacturers warranty expired), it's just not something I'd want to get involved in. The thought of paying £30,000 for a used car only to find out it's not any good and I've got to pay out thousands of pounds to put it right honestly terrifies me, because although it's cheaper than a new one it's still a ridiculous amount of money (for comparrison, apart from my house I don't own anything else that cost more than about £2,000).

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OP here, thanks everyone for the advice

here's some more info that hopefully further elucidates my concern

I also forgot to mention that we do have the money to pay off the loan (it's bought under my mum's name, but my mum doesn't have a driving license nor plans to ever drive a car)

I don't care about any of the social implications of owning a luxury car, nor do I mind downgrading in that sense; I have a girlfriend, I don't need to impress any girls, however what >>17322042 mentions does seem interesting

I do find driving the buick enclave much more comfortable than the corolla, aside from parking

>>17321894
>And since it's a luxury brand, when the parts DO break, and they WILL, they'll be very expensive to replace.

even if the car has only 73000 kms? it hasn't been used for the past year and a half, and I will seldom use it once I do get my license (tops once a week)

pic related is the car

>>17321528
bump

>>17322042
>I actually am a car expert
Way to make a claim with nothing to back it up but whatever, retard. You sound like a complete moron when you preface your reply with that. Everything you said would have been alright but you started off by sounding like a moron.

>>17322042
This.

There's so many people in here who have no idea what they're talking about. Buicks are consistently reliable cars, minus some missteps here and there. Plenty of information online to back that up. The Enclave isn't a bad vehicle. Personally I would sell it and get something I like more, but keeping it isn't a bad idea depending on how much you enjoy driving it.

>>17323358
Fine, my father has been a mechanic for 35 years, his grandfather was his entire life, and I have been for 8, working in a GM dealership. I tinker with cars all the time. Today I am changing out the erg valve and thermostat on my beat up old Mitsubishi.

evidence enough for ya cockmongeler?

Back to op, I will state that newer jap cars are actually very very reliable and tend to last well into the 150,000 range with little servicing. Buicks and American cars can just as well, but I find that fixing any problems do tend to cost a bit more.

At the end of everything, you have a nice car in your lap with some strings attached (the loan). If you don't like those strings, cut it off. If you want something that gets better millage and MIGHT last you a bit longer, get a different car. If you want a car that will carry all your friends to whatever Canadians do for fun (moose hockey?) then stick with what you have.

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>>17323565
>Plenty of information online to back that up
thanks for your reply anon, but do you have any sources on this? I don't know man, plenty of bad reviews on buicks after the 5 year mark


>>17323687
>fixing any problems do tend to cost a bit more.
hey, thanks again
do you have any concrete estimations? how much more expensive can it be?

also, since you work at a GM dealership, have you received many complaints about the enclave model?

>>17323238
I'm sure it feels fine for now; you CAN continue to drive it, make the payments, and probably be fine for another 6 months to a year, but after that you're really starting to risk it, in terms of big, expensive parts wearing out - I work in the industry and unless you have relatively deep pockets, and a big family to haul around, it really just doesn't make financial sense to drive this thing.

I work in the auto industry myself and if you want comfort that's fine: sell it and get a $10k gently used Lexus instead of a Toyota or Honda - they can be found for cheap and tend to have even better/nicer interiors than Buicks.

Realistically, a Buick SUV will is unlikely to have many issues until 100k km, and has a functional lifespan of about 150k km before it starts breaking down regularly and becomes a money pit.

A Lexus Sedan (or a Honda, Toyota, take your pick, but Lexus' are nicer) will run 250k km before any problems, and I've seen people drive them more than 550k km without issue.

Sure you're probably not really going to drive this thing that long, but the resale value on this car is going to plummet once you've paid it off now. So after considering reliability I'd argue that it makes the most sense to sell it now and get the most $$ as you can for it, and get a cheaper luxury import (Lexus, maybe an Acura) which will last you much longer, and pocket the difference.

At least, that's what I would do.

>>17324831
Apologies for shit grammar, I'm on my mobile.

Hope this helps, though!

>>17324656
I am going to sound like a retard, but I don't know the prices very well. My dealership has a lady up front that handles the money and all I ever get is a car that needs fixing.

As for the model itself? Sunroofs leaking are common enough. Few engine issues here and there but to be fair most people don't take their car back to the dealership for things outside of warranty or recalls. There were recalls on the seat belts and side air bags, so if you can find out if your dad ever took it in for those it would be wise.

>>17324831

How the hell is someone going to put 70,000km in 6 months on their car? In a year?

I come from the states, so I think in miles. 100,000 miles is the time parts start to cause problems (not dead mind you, just likely to see the first big bill). That is 160934.4 km. That's a lot of driving for one year.

That being said I do agree. Unless you think you are going to make use of all that car can do (tow stuff, carry loads of people, hall tons of stuff) then it isn't worth it. Cars are specialists. A car that's great at carrying lots of stuff won't be great at fuel efficiency.

>>17325124
>As for the model itself? Sunroofs leaking are common enough. Few engine issues here and there but to be fair most people don't take their car back to the dealership for things outside of warranty or recalls. There were recalls on the seat belts and side air bags, so if you can find out if your dad ever took it in for those it would be wise.

hey, yes, my dad did do a few recalls, and we have one pending on some "reduced power engine" problem that had caused us trouble

>>17324831
thank you very much for your response

I don't think I'll even drive 10k km in the next 5 years

as I've said, I live 30 mins away from my uni in public transport, so I would just have the car parked for occasions (e.g. camping, doing groceries)

>>17325133
>That being said I do agree. Unless you think you are going to make use of all that car can do (tow stuff, carry loads of people, hall tons of stuff) then it isn't worth it. Cars are specialists. A car that's great at carrying lots of stuff won't be great at fuel efficiency.

what's the difference between having an SUV and a corolla parked practically all the time?

Let it get repo'd, you don't need his debt to follow you. Trust me. You don't want a new car for your first car because you're going to do stupid stuff to it by accident, and not even realize or think about it.

Let it get repo'd and let that be the end of it.

>>17326205
>Let it get repo'd, you don't need his debt to follow you.
it's not my debt, it's my mum's, she can pay for it