>be me
>constantly analyzing people
>observing their thinking patterns
>how they interact with the world
>reactions to things
>understand how they work on an intellectual level
>use this to my advantage when communicating with them by using specific words to get the desired reaction
>lying is seen more as tool than a breach of moral code
>when there aren't any people around, mind is constantly analyzing the world around me
>easy ability to understand a wide range of things
>easy ability to adapt to a wide range of situations
>useful information remains in my brain (first aid, languages, etc.)
>useless information goes in one ear, out the other (birthdays, names of people, etc.)
I feel like a robot. Not the /r9k/ piece of shit kind. I have been told in past relationships I lack emotion and I'm an enigma. I went to a therapist and after 5 months she even called me an enigma.
I don't have any friends, but it would be nice to know I'm not the only one out there...if there is someone out there like me, how do you make friends?
>>17310580
Oh shit anon you're so special, you must be a highly intelligent psychopath
is that what you want to hear? there ya go
>>17310588
No fuck that.
I smoke weed all the fucking time just so I can get some peace of mind. If I'm lucky I'll damage my brain by smoking too much so I won't be such a fucking machine.
I just want to know how to make friends. I can't fucking do it, everyone seems to get along just fine without me...
>>17310580
Same here. I used to be able to "feel" people, but after being bullied and screwed over (which people do if you're vulnerable apparently) at a young age, including parents, I just rationalized everything to the point of numbness. I can only argue with people now, or talk about technical stuff or talk about how emotions work on a more philosophical / scientific level, but I somehow can't seem to just let myself "feel". I'm in therapy for this, but I even rationalize the therapy. As soon as my psychologist gets closer, I shut off and rationalize. According to her, I need to be more open. I overthink her statement. Like what does she really want? Does she want to make money out of me? Is she actually trying to help me, or is she just out to earn money off of me? *cue an entire string of thought about darwinistic behavior, selfish genes etcetera*. I can't even initiate relationships, because I'll be overthinking every little detail. Fuck man..
>>17310588
No, OP is suffering.
>>17310580
beep boop
What's the point of lying to strangers on the internet anonymously?
>>17310609
And please note that this thinking isn't a conscious choice. It's just running and running and it is tiring me to the point of wanting to commit suicide, just to stop all that nonsense going on up there.
>>17310588
don't forget an enigma and ubermensch
anyhow, Dr. Lecter, sounds like you're just bad with people. keep trying and listen carfully to their reaction to you and tune up. don't go in too hard, it's better to be the quiet type then the weirdo.
also, if you just smile and don't tale people will remember you are shy and nice.
>>17310580
I think you basically don't have a personality of your own by now. What you must do is to try to be of yourself and interact with someone.
Try that and see the results. If they like your presence, they would like to elongate the conversation.
>>17310609
>>17310619
Yes, exactly. My therapist said something very similar. She said I retreat to logic and thought when I come into contact with emotion because I don't know how to deal with it. She told me meditation might help but I can't keep my mind blank. I can only sleep at night with a handful of melatonin. It has been driving me nuts my whole life but these last couple years it has gotten worse probably due to my social isolation. I have rationalized death now, it is just easier than living and death is an eventuality so why not skip the bullshit and flood of constant thoughts and just buy a gun?
I have been sucking on a THC vape pen and it helps slow the thoughts, but I as fuck and it shows to others..
>>17310632
But others can very well tell I'm high so people avoid me I guess...is what I meant to say last sentence
>>17310629
I am in college and I have been trying, trust me. But most people say they are intimidated by me for some reason. So I try not to say much but then I get complaints I am a mysterious person they can't get close to. Idk what to fucking do
>>17310580
Lucky you. I had some analytical abilities in childhood, but my parents brought me to some specialist and he placed me on Ritalin for 8 years. After that I became less analytical.
I don't think it's a terrible thing. My best friend is just as you described yourself, and he's well adjusted. His only real issue is how quickly he is to get angry.
So being analytical isn't a problem. :)
>>17310632
>>17310636
Yeah I feel you. I've been thinking the same thing about death. I'm trying to give my life some form of meaning though, but I just haven't figured out what my journey is yet.
What bothers me the most is that people won't show much empathy for thinking, because they cannot relate. This thread is evident of this. You're called psychopath, ubermensch and dr. Lecter. This makes me even more depressed, because I see all these people emotionally driven, and they seem to make friends so easily. Oh you like that cookie? Me too! We have common ground, so we are practically already friends. I wish I could just do this. Not care about the future, or about this person's character or how he might influence and shape me. No simply: This feels good. Therefore he is my friend. I just cannot identify with that sort of relationship. Ironically, if we were to meet, we would also not become friends, because I'd be distrustful of you, just like you would be distrustful of me. Once you see the darker sides of human nature, how can one not be distrustful of one another?
>>17310663
It's unusual for someone to have such similar thoughts to my own.
I take slight comfort knowing I am not alone in this world, but also pity for you being like me.
>>17310719
I'd follow the advice of meditation though. It helps me when I do it, but I haven't build it into my routine yet. Planning to so though.
Breathing helps calm your body's physiology. And because thought and physiology are interlinked, it will help you clear your mind. I just observe my thoughts from a distance when I do it. It's not my goal to become empty inside. It's just to create a distance from everything going on, and observe it as it happens. No judgement tied to my thoughts, just look at them. Also, try to stop smoking weed. I know its appeal, but it is not the ultimate solution. Meditation is better. It's just so damn hard to make a routine out of.
It's just who you are. I saw a video on YouTube once that would describe someone like you as a psychopath. 1/100, according to that video, is one. Meaning it's perhaps an evolutionary advantage.
There are many others who would trade places with you my friend.
I'm the same way op, but I have friends. I don't know if I think of them as such though.
Death is a comforting thought for me as well, but while you're alive you may as well find things to enjoy. Try and focus on what you want and have instead of on what you don't.
Smoking might seem like the solution to you right now, but the way you're going about it is only crippling you further. Keep it to the weekends or something instead of using it as a daily escape.
If you're having trouble finding things that you enjoy, just start doing whatever. Eventually you'll find things that you like.
As for the meeting people, that will come to you just by pursuing your interests.
It's a big world out there OP, not everything can be rationalized or generalized. And that's what makes it sorta fun. Try and stay away from psychology, because if you're anything like me, it just detracts from genuine human interaction.
sure is summer here
>>17310580
Cool, I do it too. Let me break it down to you : THAT'S NOT STOPPING.
You're not getting better, and that's not a condition you're bound to live with it.
>>17310771
Worth a shot. Thanks for the advice Anon. I genuinely appreciate it.
>>17310792
Theoretically it is advantageous. I have become isolated and trapped with my thoughts due to it. No one should want this.
>>17310911
I have been on 4Chan of 4 years faggot.
>>17310948
I do not understand the words you say.
>>17310903
I'll try. Thanks for the advice.
Also op, an easy way to clear your head while meditating is to focus on your posture while inhaling/exhaling to completion and counting to ten as you go
>>17310580
Yeah, there's a name for this. It's called being a homo sapien.
>constantly analyzing people
>observing their thinking patterns
Okay, so you have the ability to draw conclusions about thought-patterns from listening to people. Pure psychopathy.
>how they interact with the world
>reactions to things
You mean, you have an eye?
>understand how they work on an intellectual level
What does this even mean? You read some basic evolutionary psychology and apply this to understand everyday situations, is that it?
>use this to my advantage when communicating with them by using specific words to get the desired reaction
>lying is seen more as tool than a breach of moral code
Okay. So you like to manipulate people? Hardly anything special. You're probably worse at it than you think.
>when there aren't any people around, mind is constantly analyzing the world around me
We get it. You have the ability to observe, analyze and think about the world around you.
>easy ability to understand a wide range of things
>easy ability to adapt to a wide range of situations
So you are trying to say you are intelligent. This must be pretty bad for you.
>useful information remains in my brain (first aid, languages, etc.)
>useless information goes in one ear, out the other (birthdays, names of people, etc.)
Literally everyone has it this way.
>>17311007
I apologize but I can't explain it better than I have already tried. I'm not sure you understand the problem and I lack the ability to explain it in a clearer sense to those who don't experience it first hand.
>>17310992
I can try, thanks again
>>17311029
I'm being an ass for the sake of making a point, OP. I think a lot of the narrative in your post is imagined and that you'd be better off thinking more clearly about what really is the issue.
>>17311045
I am aware of you being an ass. It's just easier to apologize than to fight someone over the internet for something they choose to be opposed to rather than try to understand.
>>17311054
I understand perfectly well the feeling of alienation and what it's like to be a loner. I can also relate to the feeling of being an observer in life. What I think is dangerous is attaching great significance to experiences that are not as uncommon as you'd think, or obsessing over them. It causes no progress.
>>17310580
This is probably the most cringiest thing I've read today.
>>17311105
>>17311110
Alright
>>17310580
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>>17310580
stop being so edgy, stop focusing on others so much, they dont give second thought to all that shit you overanalyze. No one will care about you if all you do is read them and use them.
Treat people as ends, not means you fucking edgelord faggot.
>>17311143
Okay
>>17310580
Hey OP
just work on your social intelligence
Develop empathy for other people, try and put yourself in their shoes and work really hard to understand the emotional aspect of them
Making friends is easy
Take a genuine interest in people, ask them questions about their lives and be a good listener
Listening to people and being interested in what they say will most of the time guarantee grounds to build a friendship on
And not the kind of listening that is waiting for them to finish so you can talk about your special snowflake self lmao
You have to make other people feel special and appreciated first (this is what I've learnt first hand anyway)
Hope this helps
New to this forum. Is there really advice here or is it just for people like this guy to voice how special they are?
Most people are like op until they're flung into the world and for the lack of a better term, mature and grow up.
I'll make an assumption that your only a few years either side of 20 and lack any significant work experience.
Get some living under your belt rather than procrastinating and dissecting people's behaviour. You can watch the world from your ivory tower and deem yourself an enigmatic intellectual, but as with almost everything, it's a poor replacement for genuine experience.
step four, acceptance.
>>17310580
Names and birthdays are incredibly useful information. Remembering someone's birthday or that inane story they told you last week will make them like you, and when people like you you've got a huge leg up on the competition.
Literally just being personable and happy will make people fucking flock to you and make your life easier. It's a skill that you may have to learn and practice, but it is damn useful.
I don't think it's a problem that you're weird or smart or dumb or whatever.
I think you are just incredibly defensive. You are not used to facing failure, and both your shyness and your self-socialization reflect a byzantine combination of coping mechanisms to avoid being emotionally involved, since you are going to be hurt.
In short, your life consists of avoiding unpleasant situations and misery. It doesn't consist of finding happiness. You don't cope with pain by fixating on it and avoiding it, you cope with it by focusing on a way to get to a better mode of feeling or thinking and moving towards it.
Practice doing riskier things that carry a reward potential, things you aren't good at. You have the ability to interact with others, you just choose not to because your own self-image is all you have and you feel that you can't afford to lose that.
Well, I'm here to tell you that you never had it in the first place. It isn't worth anything to anyone other than you, and right now it is working against you.
Start living or you will look back at 75 in a lonely apartment with faded furniture and wonder why your life was never exciting.
>>17311155
Both
>>17311305
And OP thinks he's smart. Good job explaining that simple concept to him.
>>17310580
May be schizoid. Look it up.
I am. It runs in my family. I'm the way you described. So is my father, along with several of his relatives.
Also been to psychiatrists and a therapist, all were stumped.
But I'm a textbook case at the end of the day. I'm even like the case study by Laing that the wikipedia article for schizoid cites (competitive debater who's effective on stage but struggles heavily in the breaks when people attempt to make conversation with me).
Pic related is funny because my dad always says the same thing (he likes to go to Whole Foods and places like it to observe strange people, says it's like going to a zoo).
The thing is, my case also comes with a pretty severe nonverbal communication handicap, which has always made it difficult to "fit it", even as a child. Most of my peers have likely assumed (and still assume) I'm autistic, despite being nothing of the sort on closer examination.
>>17310623
>don't go in too hard, it's better to be the quiet type then the weirdo.
>also, if you just smile and don't tale people will remember you are shy and nice.
This, very much this.
Simply shut up, smile, and nod. They will assume you're shy.
If you need to have extensive contact with them, just act like you have no social skills and you just got teleported here from another planet and have no idea what's going on. They'll assume you're autistic and treat you accordingly.
It's better than the alternative.
>>17311348
Not a bad attempt for a layman, but get better at drawing lines between avoidant and disassociative coping mechanisms. A psychology textbook can help.
>>17311371
I'm >>17311348
I wasn't getting technical. I was just saying, I see two types of people in this world:
1. People who avoid misery
2. People who pursue happiness
Both have problems, but at least group 2 has a chance
>>17310580
analyzing sort of like a cat...you sit back and watch - introverted.
its all bullshit. be yourself op, dont give a fuck, if you need to say something, always say it - and eventually you'll find people who will appreaciate you for who you are, not for who others tell you to pretend to be.
>>17312499
Yeah pretty much this.
Honestly, just be you! There's nothing wrong with being a people-watcher and social chameleon (a border-line sociopath haha) as long as you don't wish that misery befalls others or that everyone else is simply a tool. I would recommend that you attempt to change your focus to 'just wanting everyone to become the best that they can be'.
Viewing people as potential tools/something to observe, or in general, just being lesser than you, is simply 'superiority complex' and a defensive mechanism which protects you from judgement and criticism. I assure you, there are people far more intelligent and perceptive than you.
Further to this, people say you lack emotion and are sometimes intimidate by you due to this subconscious wall of 'artificial' superiority you've erected.
I suspect your superiority complex stems from how you were raised or a falling out with close friends or something..
This reminds me of that image where you got this dweeb going I'm the nicest guy you know BUT ALSO I'M A TWISTED FUCKING PSYCHO XD with a lighter and spooky text
In short op, I think it's time to neck yourself
>>17310580
>be me
>constantly analyzing people
>observing their thinking patterns
>how they interact with the world
>reactions to things
>understand how they work on an intellectual level
>use this to my advantage when communicating with them by using specific words to get the desired reaction
>when there aren't any people around, mind is constantly analyzing the world around me
>useful information remains in my brain (first aid, languages, etc.)
>useless information goes in one ear, out the other (birthdays, names of people, etc.)
This is normal and rational. Get involved in business or something.
>lying is seen more as tool than a breach of moral code
You will get caught out for this eventually unless you're surrounding yourself with idiots.
>>17312499
>eventually you'll find people who will appreaciate you for who you are
Note: not guaranteed. Everyone in my father's family knows this and they advise me to start being fake to avoid dying alone, since they know what an unpleasant personality i inherited.
But frankly, I don't care enough. I'd rather die alone than with some woman I can't have a conversation with (like the men before me).
>>17312590
>You will get caught out for this eventually unless you're surrounding yourself with idiots.
Everyone lies constantly.
When you're a compulsive bastard that uses logic to cope with reality, it's noticeable. And painful.
I like this thread. If you're still here, OP, you're definitely not alone in this. We live in a society where "thinking isn't cool", honestly.
Had friends, got mugged, moved, lost all friends. Now I'm back with my dad at 24, some college under my belt but nothing to really show for it besides I was too trusting.
We're at a point in life where we have to decide, "are we going to sacrifice our will to help humanity in order to blend in and 'make money'?". Not that great a choice, when the only option is, "GIVE UP YOURSELF. BECOME A DRONE".
Makes me feel like we're living in some sort of dystopian future setting in a movie where corruption has been the honest, underlying source of power for the country and we're at a point that if you're not corrupt, you're an outcast. How can you not be doing credit card scams and fucking everyone over with techno-bullshit? Someone's gotta get with the times.
>>17310588
Are you the same guy in that's been going around the ask the opposite gender anything threads giving shitty advice and acting like a cunt?
>>17312601
lol this + why care?
Hey OP, I just wanted to say that I can relate to you and I wish you the best.
I have never clicked well with the majority of people but when I met a lot of different people at uni, some meaningful friendships emerged.
I don't want to give you advice. I think that what is right for you will become clear to you, if you and others really listen to what you have to say.
Can you relate to this or does it sound like therapeutic bullshit?
OP, you know how observe other people? You can tell how they're going to act or what they're thinking? Try doing doing those things to yourself; Naming what you feel and why you started to think about something when you did.
Don't change anything else in your life, unless you want to.
Hope that'll help :)
i'm exactly like you. we're fine, stop smoking weed and man up.
cheers.
>>17313577
Wait no I have friends.
Dunno mate sounds like you're just depressed then.
I feel with you OP. I don't have much more to add because I can't put words to my feelings, or lack thereof.
Fuck off to all the retards calling him an edgelord, so because someone feels a way you don't they must just be an edgy teen, right? Have a little fucking empathy.
>>17310580
Well lots of people like you out there in the world especially here on 4chins. Even though we're a very low percentage, there are millions of our type.
I can't have any advice for ya though. I've found my soulmate 12 years ago, he's like us, i can talk about anything with him, even the weirdest theories and we even have three wonderful kids. so I'm pretty happy in my life. Also I have a high empathy genetically, so it's OK for me. I feel very human and am happy about that.
Maybe you're still young. There's more to life than it seems and you're definitely not alone. Don't lose hope, anon.
>>17312590
>You will get caught out for this eventually unless you're surrounding yourself with idiots.
Also this op. Most people are smart enough to see through your lies. They just won't call you out on your bullshit because they're being polite. They don't want to put you in an unpleasant spot or even don't care enough to do so.
You're kind of autistic if you can't comprehend this much without even (over)analysing.
PS . My neighbour is just like you in this case. I really dislike her for this. The saddest part though, how she thinks I bought her bullshit only because I don't care enough about her and just play along.
