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Is a relationship with a woman worth all the effort? Is it better
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Is a relationship with a woman worth all the effort?
Is it better than having friends and fapping to porn?
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>better than friends
Absolutely, if you find a person who is decent to be with.

>worth the effort
See above.

>better than fapping
Basically if the above check out and she isn't a dead fish in bed, then yes.
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>>17274718
I'm a 26kv but even I don't understand how you have friends and not get laid.

Unless your friends are basically clones of you.
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>>17274718
With the right woman, it's not much effort. It's mostly reward.

The problem is that it can be difficult to find the right woman unless you are the right man. Basically, top tier people get top tier mates. This doesn't necessarily mean looks. It means being a person who understands what it takes to make a relationship work. Loyalty, honesty, communication, maturity. If you're under the age of 30, some of those things can be difficult to find and be.

Gotta go through some bullshit to get something good. But that's true in all aspects of life.
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>>17274723
This.

That being said, you should never get rid of your friends and replace them with a woman.
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>>17274724
I think having friends was a matter of luck. Find some nice people and hopefully that will lead you to meeting more nice people.
I didn't get laid because I don't want sex without a relationship (not saying I would be able to get that either though), and for different reasons I couldn't get a romantic relationship with the women I've been interested in.

>>17274723
Well I'm glad we both agree that if you are looking for someone to have a relationship with your standards should be high. I won't aim lower because that would be indeed a waste of effort.
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>>17274718
>Is a relationship with a woman worth all the effort?
>Is it better than having friends and fapping to porn?

Look within yourself for the answer.
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>>17274820
I still can't find it.
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